Do you acknowledge that McCain saw this coming...
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-25
In Reply to: McCain's aides and FMFM - mt
cosponsored legislation to try to prevent it, and Barack Obama, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank blocked that legislation?
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
See inside for link....McCain saw this coming in 2005...
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-88137
THIS is the guy I want in the White House during these bad financial times. Obviously he knows enough about the economy and outfits like this to see problems coming.
McCain saw Fannie/Freddie coming in 2005...
and sponsored legislation which the Democrats blocked.
John McCain did anticpate the problems with GSEs and see them as a systemic financial problem. He even sponsored legislation to deal with it, and this is what he said:
"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole."
McCain deserves credit for being on the right side of this. Meanwhile, Obama in just four years in the Senate raked more contributions from Fannie and Freddie than any other Senator in the last 19 years save Chris Dodd, who's pretty demonstrably in the pocket of Big Mortgage.
Fact remains....McCain saw this meltdown coming....
and the Dems would not listen. They did not want to upset the golden apple cart. And we the people are left holding the bag. Do I want one of them in the white house while we are trying to work our way out of this? No way, no how, nobama.
So you can't acknowledge there may have been
x
I acknowledge
your opinion and ask why does my stating my viewpoint disturb you enough to provoke your response?
I can acknowledge
that you are full of hot air.
Also, do you acknowledge that the Iraq
Does that even matter to you? Do you acknowledge that so many other goverment programs are wasting our tax dollars? Maybe some of that money could be redirected to help with healthcare. You just assume that I want you to be taxed to death, but obviously I don't want that. You are putting words in my mouth. The cigarette tax would fund the program, and if that doesn't cover the entire program, you know very well that we could get money to go to it. Have you gone broke due to the US spending $333 million a day in Iraq? No, then why do you assume that you will go broke if they spend $19 million a day in S-CHIP. You're not thinking logically, and I cannot argue with a person without sound judgement. It's pointless. I'm sick of it, and I would like to get some opinions from fellow Democrats on an issue without you scaring them away and trying to take over the Liberal board.
Until you acknowledge the occupation
the specifics of your arguments have no standing or credibility and merit no comment. Doomed is what they are and by their own hand, not Hamas, not the Palestinians, but by themselves.
I acknowledge that I am probably way out of my league but
Re: Clinton and terrorists: Maybe he knew. He probably did know, but attacks did not happen during his administration. I don't underestimate Mr. Cheyney's intelligence. I credit the attack to him.
Re: Clinton surplus. Whether it was a zillion or one dollar. It was a surplus. And Bush and co were chomping at the bits to spend it on anything other than the American people.
Re: Global warming. YOU don't believe it? This attitude annoys me more than anything else. Yes, the world evolves, whether it be natural or prematurely forced. Scientists all over the world have been documenting global warming and YOU don't believe it? Okay.
Re: Peace instead of war. Well... what do we have to lose? We try to make peace and they attack us... or we be SOBs and hate everyone and they attack us. Sorry... yeah, I'm a dem but I still believe in the golden rule. BTW, feedback is good so far with O's video to Iran.
Re: Letting people do it on their own. If only... There have just been too may casualties. Innocents who have been caught up in this financial fiasco and through no fault of their own (not all, but a lot). I'm sorry, but some Americans do need help and it benefits us all to provide that. I don't like it either. It's not that these people are lazy or made bad decisions, but because things just evolved into a really bad place really quick for a lot of people.
Okay... using cable is kind of a bad example I think. Cable companies have been territorial for years. I never ever heard of Comcast in my part of the world. I just know that cable companies have specific regions and it seems like this is a pretty regulated entity... oh... wait.... is regulation a bad word?
I think sunglasses describes better what some are seeing here.
This could explain the refusal of some to acknowledge global warming.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-endtimes22jun22,0,7902314.story?page=3&coll=la-home-headlines
'End Times' Religious Groups Want Apocalypse Soon
'End times' religious groups want apocalypse sooner than later, and they're relying on high tech -- and red heifers -- to hasten its arrival.
By Louis Sahagun, Times Staff Writer
June 22, 2006
For thousands of years, prophets have predicted the end of the world. Today, various religious groups, using the latest technology, are trying to hasten it.
Their endgame is to speed the promised arrival of a messiah.
For some Christians this means laying the groundwork for Armageddon.
With that goal in mind, mega-church pastors recently met in Inglewood to polish strategies for using global communications and aircraft to transport missionaries to fulfill the Great Commission: to make every person on Earth aware of Jesus' message. Doing so, they believe, will bring about the end, perhaps within two decades.
In Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a far different vision. As mayor of Tehran in 2004, he spent millions on improvements to make the city more welcoming for the return of a Muslim messiah known as the Mahdi, according to a recent report by the American Foreign Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank.
To the majority of Shiites, the Mahdi was the last of the prophet Muhammad's true heirs, his 12 righteous descendants chosen by God to lead the faithful.
Ahmadinejad hopes to welcome the Mahdi to Tehran within two years.
Conversely, some Jewish groups in Jerusalem hope to clear the path for their own messiah by rebuilding a temple on a site now occupied by one of Islam's holiest shrines.
Artisans have re-created priestly robes of white linen, gem-studded breastplates, silver trumpets and solid-gold menorahs to be used in the Holy Temple along with two 6½½-ton marble cornerstones for the building's foundation.
Then there is Clyde Lott, a Mississippi revivalist preacher and cattle rancher. He is trying to raise a unique herd of red heifers to satisfy an obscure injunction in the Book of Numbers: the sacrifice of a blemish-free red heifer for purification rituals needed to pave the way for the messiah.
So far, only one of his cows has been verified by rabbis as worthy, meaning they failed to turn up even three white or black hairs on the animal's body.
Linking these efforts is a belief that modern technologies and global communications have made it possible to induce completion of God's plan within this generation.
Though there are myriad interpretations of how it will play out, the basic Christian apocalyptic countdown as described by the Book of Revelation in the New Testament is as follows:
Jews return to Israel after 2,000 years, the Holy Temple is rebuilt, billions of people perish during seven years of natural disasters and plagues, the antichrist arises and rules the world, the battle of Armageddon erupts in the vicinity of Israel, Jesus returns to defeat Satan's armies and preside over Judgment Day.
Generations of Christians have hoped for the Second Coming of Jesus, said UCLA historian Eugen Weber, author of the 1999 book Apocalypses: Prophecies, Cults and Millennial Beliefs Through the Ages.
And it's always been an ultimately bloody hope, a slaughterhouse hope, he added with a sigh. What we have now in this global age is a vaster and bloodier-than-ever Wagnerian version. But, then, we are a very imaginative race.
Apocalyptic movements are nothing new; even Christopher Columbus hoped to assist in the Great Commission by evangelizing New World inhabitants.
Some religious scholars saw apocalyptic fever rise as the year 2000 approached, and they expected it to subside after the millennium arrived without a hitch.
It didn't. According to various polls, an estimated 40% of Americans believe that a sequence of events presaging the end times is already underway. Among the believers are pastors of some of the largest evangelical churches in America, who converged at Faith Central Bible Church in Inglewood in February to finalize plans to start 5 million new churches worldwide in 10 years.
Jesus Christ commissioned his disciples to go to the ends of the Earth and tell everyone how they could achieve eternal life, said James Davis, president of the Global Pastors Network's Billion Souls Initiative, one of an estimated 2,000 initiatives worldwide designed to boost the Christian population.
As we advance around the world, Davis said, we'll be shortening the time needed to fulfill that Great Commission. Then, the Bible says, the end will come.
An opposing vision, invoked by Ahmadinejad in an address before the United Nations last year, suggests that the Imam Mahdi, a 9th century figure, will soon emerge from a well to conquer the world and convert everyone to Islam.
O mighty Lord, he said, I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository, the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace.
At the appropriate time, according to Shiite tradition, the Mahdi will reappear and, along with Jesus, lead Muslims in a struggle to rid the world of corruption and establish justice.
For Christians, the future of Israel is the key to any end-times scenario, and various groups are reaching out to Jews or proselytizing among them to advance the Second Coming.
A growing number of fundamentalist Christians in mostly Southern states are adopting Jewish religious practices to align themselves with prophecies saying that Gentiles will stand as one with Jews when the end is near.
Evangelist John C. Hagee of the 19,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio has helped 12,000 Russian Jews move to Israel, and donated several million dollars to Israeli hospitals and orphanages.
We are the generation that will probably see the rapture of the church, Hagee said, referring to a moment in advance of Jesus' return when the world's true believers will be airlifted into heaven.
In Christian theology, the first thing that happens when Christ returns to Earth is the judgment of nations, said Hagee, who wears a Jewish prayer shawl when he ministers. It will have one criterion: How did you treat the Jewish people? Anyone who understands that will want to be on the right side of that question. Those who are anti-Semitic will go to eternal damnation.
On July 18, Hagee plans to lead a contingent of high-profile evangelists to Washington to make their concerns about Israel's security known to congressional leaders. More than 1,200 evangelists are expected for the gathering.
Twenty-five years ago, I called a meeting of evangelists to discuss such an effort, and the conversation didn't last an hour, he said. This time, I called and they all came and stayed. And when the meeting was over, they all agreed to speak up for Israel.
Underlining the sense of urgency is a belief that the end-times clock started ticking May 15, 1948, when the United Nations formally recognized Israel.
I'll never forget that night, Hagee said. I was 8 years old at the time and in the kitchen with my father listening to the news about Israel's rebirth on the radio. He said, 'Son, this is the most important day in the 20th century.'
Hagee's message is carried on 160 television stations and 50 radio stations and can be seen in Africa, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and most Third World nations.
By contrast, Bill McCartney, a former University of Colorado football coach and co-founder of the evangelical Promise Keepers movement for men, which became huge in the 1990s, has had a devil of a time getting his own apocalyptic campaign off the ground.
It's called The Road to Jerusalem, and its mission is to convert Jews to Christianity while there is still time.
Our whole purpose is to hasten the end times, he said. The Bible says Jews will be brought to jealousy when they see Christians and Jewish believers together as one they'll want to be a part of that. That's going to signal Jesus' return.
Jews and others who don't accept Jesus, he added matter-of-factly, are toast.
McCartney, who only a decade ago sermonized to stadium-size crowds of Promise Keepers, said finding people to back his sputtering cause has been like plowing cement.
Given end-times scenarios saying that non-believers will die before Jesus returns and that the antichrist will rule from Jerusalem's rebuilt Holy Temple Jews have mixed feelings about the outpouring of support Israel has been getting from evangelical organizations.
I truly believe John Hagee is at once a daring, beautiful person and quite dangerous, said Orthodox Rabbi Brad Hirschfield, vice president of the National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership in New York.
I sincerely recognize him as a hero for bringing planeloads of people to Israel at a time when people there were getting blown up by the busloads, Hirschfield said. But he also believes that the only path to the father is through Jesus. That leaves me out.
Meanwhile, in what has become a spectacular annual routine, Jews hoping to rebuild the Holy Temple destroyed by the Romans in AD 70 attempt to haul the 6 1/2 -ton cornerstones by truck up to the Temple Mount, the site now occupied by the Dome of the Rock shrine. Each year, they are turned back by police.
Among those turned away is Gershon Solomon, spokesman for Jerusalem's Temple Institute. When the temple is built, he said, Islam is over.
I'm grateful for all the wonderful Christian angels wanting to help us, Solomon added, acknowledging the political support from Christians who are now Israel's best lobbyists in the United States.
However, when asked to comment on the fate of non-Christians upon the Second Coming of Jesus, he said, That's a very embarrassing question. What can I tell you? That's a very terrible Christian idea.
What kind of religion is it that expects another religion will be destroyed?
But are all of these efforts to hasten the end of the world a bit like, well, playing God?
Some Christians, such as Roman Catholics and some Protestant denominations, believe in the Second Coming but don't try to advance it. It's important to be ready for the Second Coming, they say, though its timetable cannot be manipulated.
Hirschfield said he prays every day for the coming of the Jewish messiah, but he too believes that God can't be hurried.
For me, he said, the messiah is like the mechanical bunny at a racetrack: It always stays a little ahead of the runners but keeps the pace toward a redeemed world.
Trouble is, there are many people who want to bring a messiah who looks just like them. For me, that kind of messianism is spiritual narcissism.
But some Christian leaders say they aren't playing God; they're just carrying out his will.
Ted Haggard, president of the National Assn. of Evangelicals, says the commitment to fulfilling the Great Commission has naturally intensified along with the technological advances God provided to carry out his plans.
Over in Mississippi, Lott believes that he is doing God's work, and that is why he wants to raise a few head of red heifers for Jewish high priests. Citing Scripture, Lott and others say a pure red heifer must be sacrificed and burned and its ashes used in purification rituals to allow Jews to rebuild the temple.
But Lott's plans have been sidetracked.
Facing a maze of red tape and testing involved in shipping animals overseas and rumors of threats from Arabs and Jews alike who say the cows would only bring more trouble to the Middle East he has given up on plans to fly planeloads of cows to Israel. For now.
In the meantime, some local ranchers have expressed an interest in raising their own red heifers for Israel, and fears of hoof-and-mouth disease and blue tongue forced Lott to relocate his only verified red heifer a female born in 1993 to Nebraska.
Cloning is out of the question, he said, because the technique is not approved by the rabbinical council of Israel. Artificial insemination has so far failed to produce another heifer certified by rabbis.
Something deep in my heart says God wants me to be a blessing to Israel, Lott said in a telephone interview. But it's complicated. We're just not ready to send any red heifers over there.
If not now, when?
If there's a sovereign God with his hand in the affairs of men, it'll happen, and it'll be a pivotal event, he said. That time is soon. Very soon.
They did not cause the housing crisis. They did, however, fail acknowledge the problem
and they most certainly failed to tackle the problem in a timely and effective way.
One of the major factors in the housing crisis was the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the implementation of Graham-Bliley Act. The lack of oversight, the deregulation that allowed lenders to lend without being subject to oversight rules because the type of financial institution they were doomed us.
The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to an Associated Press review of regulatory documents. "Expect fallout, expect foreclosures, expect horror stories," California mortgage lender Paris Welch wrote to U.S. regulators in January 2006, about one year before the housing implosion cost her a job.
I am not a fan of Frank, Dodd, or Pelosi. I am not a fan of TARP, especially because there was/is no built-in oversight or accountability. Shoot, the some of the same predatory lenders that were put out of business by their own practices are up and running again, passing out toxic loans to desperate people, because they managed to get their hands on bailout money.
Facts are always called opinions by the left when they refuse to acknowledge them...sm
The facts within the article are true. No matter how much you want to ignore them.
You are so blind.
Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate. I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years. God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
Where is this coming from? sm
When you same something this inflammatory, this hateful, this destructive, and this untrue, you need to give a source other than your personal opinion.
No, I don't get where you are coming from.....
Did a gay/lesbian person EVER push their lifestyle on you? If so, they were simply classless people. I have never had that happen with couples (2 separate people tried to hit on me, same sex, but, they erroneously thought I was of the same ilk). What people do in their bedroom is their own business. I was raised in a small town, my family was well acquainted with several gay couples. One of the ladies was a very powerful deputy sheriff who commanded respect and who also owned half the town. She was one of the most intelligent, fascinating people I have ever met. I was raised to look at it as a non-issue. It didn't change who those people were. We loved them no matter what.
this coming from the
person who told another poster to "shut up" recently. War, economy, health care. We are dealing with horrific problems here.
Where are you coming from?
The post that Zville put up had only 2 responses besides yourself. How that has anything to do with "rabid Republicans" and the rest of your post is out of line. No one but you mentioned the different parties.
What is coming......sm
No need to check this out on Snopes because it won't be there. This actually happened to a friend's friend and my friend told me about it.
I ordered a pizza and when the delivery guy comes to the door I see he is an older guy. With a heavy accent he pointed to my yard sign and said "That is right, no Obama, yes McCain." I nodded in approval and said "Thats right!" and he went on to say "I lived 37 years under a communist government, and what is coming, is communism."
Now, if that don't scare ya straight, I don't know what will.
Coming to the top with you...
I just didn't want this message to get lost below.
This post is nothing but an opinion by an unidentified author from an obscure website. This website is run by a guy named Jeff Rense. He also does a radio talk show about UFO sightings. Nice research there partner!
no one is coming
since you are making a racist remark against whites, you need to know I am black and I too have a gun and ammo. You think only white people have that? And I too am a conservative and I suppose you would consider me right wing, if you want to give it a name. I am a God fearing person whom you call hyper-religious. I am against abortion and believe we have the right to bear arms.
Need to reassess your own views first.
The coming
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7901
where is this coming from - seriously? nm
x
Isn't that coming anyway?
Government is getting more and more control over things. If they take control of everything.....what makes you think they won't tell us how to live, where to live, what we can buy, etc.
How would you like somebody coming
into your house and taking it away from you? Not every people accepts this, because it is wrong.
You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
x
Indictments coming down
One to ffive indictments coming down. Those involved have already been told. Indictments are sealed until tomorrow.
And the funnies keep on coming.
I hope for your sake that laws are never changed to require a voter to have a double-digit IQ. 
Exactly! Coming together as Americans...
and out from under all "labels" is where the answer lies. No one truly believes in Democracy anymore. In days gone by, yes, there would be grousing going up to election, a little grousing after election, then we were all friends again until the next election cycle. All this polarization is ridiculous, and disliking someone strictly on their political stance, and saying silly things like "I have known people like you all my life" and focusing that frustration on one person they don't even know...how silly is that?? I suppose because they can't confront those people in "real life" they come here to unload on strangers. It is truly my way or the highway, and it is that way on BOTH sides. Would it not be wonderful to be Americans first and liberals or conservatives or polka-dotted SECOND?
Keep 'em coming.
Im going to take a page out of your book again and simply jump over this latest denial/dodge of yours...just like you did with the context post. Blame game bluster scores no points here. The ignorance seems to be unending, but at least you could try to know your own party platform. Think you can handle that?
Bottom line. This is so simple, even you can get it. Dems would impose the R-words (regulatiions and restrictions) on the transnationals....back in the day, we called it monopoly busting. Pubs give them the keys to the candy store, the greed of the wealthy being what it is and all. Gotta keep those CEOs perks coming.
We can all see how well that has worked for us. One does not have to look too far to see just how inept the party has been over the past 8 years in all things economic. Huge surplus transformed to deepest deficit of all times, virtually overnight, gas/food, bank foreclosures, housing crisis, rising unemployment, wage stagnation, inflation/recession. Bushs latest brilliant explanation for all this is that Wall Street got drunk. It has a hangover. Dont know how long it will take them to sober up. This would be the extent of his experience? Scarey. Maybe he has been reading McCain's joke book. The candidate tells us that the economy is not his strong suit. Disarmingly honest, but none to comforting. Speaks for itself.
Touched on this in the economics paragraph in the context post, but you chose to ignore that...or, in your own words, maybe that was the one you were not paying attention to, I forget. In fact, no response from you, Sam, speaks volumes and sheds a whole lot more light on the subject than anything you might actually come out and try to say. Go figure.
Ok, I understand where you are coming from...
we just agree to disagree on this. Politicians say slanderous things about each other all the time...it is the nature of the beast. And the presidential election year is when all these kinds of books come out, with innuendo and stuff from "unnamed sources" on both sides.
But bottom line, all the things I know about Obama and the company he keeps and the things he has done in his political life are much more concerning to me than whether or not John McCain called his wife a vulgar name. With only these two choices, mine will have to be McCain.
I am not sure your statement of "he is a mean and nasty person all around" is a fair characterization either. He and his wife have been involved with many charitable efforts, mostly to do with children. Have you read about their adopted daughter?
That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion and to state it, as am I. :) Have a good evening.
I have been coming to this board off and on
for a while now, usually just stay quiet because I don't agree with half of what either side says and I really don't like all the bashing part of politics. Some of the things said here and other places are quite disgusting, the bickering I can handle and actually enjoy reading, but when it gets to that base level it is just disturbing to me. But, here is my question. And, I'll preface it by saying that I am a Republican but am finding myself more of an independent after the last 8 years.
For all the people spouting off the virtues of Sarah Palin, I have not heard one comment in her defense or an excuse for her about her part in that whole radio morning show. You know the one, where the radio DJ was making fun, being cruel really, about a the President of the Senate in Alaska that he, nor SP like. You know the part when he called her fat and SP just laughed, when he called this woman a BI*CH and she just laughed, when he called this woman a cancer and she just laughed (BTW, this woman actually had cancer and they knew that). Sure, she later said she was "caught off guard" by his comment. Whatever. Wouldn't a decent human being have just said, Stop. I'm not going to take part in this. Any number of things. If she was so caught off guard by that, what is she going to do as VP. And, how does she end the whole conversation. When the DJ makes a comment about visiting Palin, she says "I'd be honored to have you."
This is probably my #1 problem with her. She seems to have a total lack of compassion. She enjoyed bashing Obama during her speech the other night, and I was disgusted to see that the audience seemed to enjoy it too. I have worked within my community and I am proud of that, as should Obama be. I didn't hear a whole lot in her speech about what she plans to do, or what her actual stand on issues are. I didn't hear much of them from McCain either.
I dare say that if these 2 keep letting her evade the tough questions, well any questions at all, I might be crossing lines this year. Yes, it seems that the media, or certain media, are unnecessarily attacking her but I hope that doesn't become an excuse for them to have her not answer questions.
I used to be pro-Obama, but so much keeps coming out (sm)
To be honest, I am not really thrilled about either of our choices, however, Obama scares me more...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7145283472276068711&ei=5DTUSIvKFoPo-AGg7omyAg&q=Look%2C+I+got+two+daughters+%E2%80%94+9+years+old+and+6+years+old%2C%22+he+said.+%22I+am+going+to+teach+them+first+about+values+and+morals%2C+but+if+they+make+a+mistake&vt=lf&hl=en
Okay. Whatever. You just do not get where I am coming from. Forget it.
I DO NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Thank you. Blast Obama, Blast McCain. The ECONOMY is the problem right now. But nobody seems to care about that. Just constant bashing, and scare tactics. Done with the whole thing. Bye.
where are the cuts coming from?
who is losing out ESPECIALLY when he has all these plans for additional government programs?
It's coming along great!
I just have myself involved in so much that I don't have enough time as I would like to devote to it. I'm going to start teaching classes at a local Teen Ranch. They have acreage and will be able to raise their own gourds, make gourd art and sell it to raise money. Here's a link to their website http://www.arkansasteenchallenge.org/ Well, that's the website anyway, I can never get the link thing to work.
Tues. and Wed.morning this week I did a field trip for the local 4th and 5th grade classes (212 of them) at the Cane Hill College Building and spoke to them about the history of the college (it was the first college west of the Mississipi and is said to have fostered the public education system in Arkansas.) It was turned into a public school around the turn of the century. I was apprehensive about speaking to these kids but guess I did okay, one of the students said she wished she could go to school just 1 day like the kids did who attended school there. A teacher quickly picked up on that idea and we're making plans to take one class at a time and give them such a day. The last class was in the 1950s so the kids will dress in period clothing (no pants and they will divide up in groups and the teacher will teach 3 "grade" levels to simulate how it was done when it was a school. Long story about the reasons but I will take my huge cauldron pot and make stew over a wood fire and they will have soup, peanut butter and SYRUP sandwiches, dessert and milk for lunch. Of course parent volunteers will be there helping me.
Sorry about so much personal information but I get really excited about things I believe in and that also includes our government and it's serious need for change.
i have no doubt He is coming
than we think.
This coming from the very person
who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person.
At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.
The End of the World Is Coming!
As long as the folks get a rise out of ya, they will continue to post it.
GP - I'm really trying to understand where you are coming from
I just don't understand it. I don't want to argue I want to understand why you feel this way. Forget who supports who. I don't care if you support the same person as me or not. I don't care how many days until election. It could be 100 or it could be 1. If you hear Obama's voice and he says very clearly and even democrats on TV are saying "tell me he didn't say that". But his own voice (and he does not deny he said it) that he will bankrupt any investor in coal power plants, and then in his own voice he said that he will make energy prices skyrocket, why don't you believe it.
Again, I could care less about how many days there are til the election. It's Obama's voice saying this and I'd really like to know why you don't believe it. My MIL is like this and I can't have a conversation with her because when I ask her today why she doesn't believe it she told me because Bush is the antichrist and Obama would never say anything like that because he is the savior of our country. I asked her what she meant and she said everyone is trying to demonize Obama and those weren't his words. So I couldn't get a straight answer from her. So maybe you can explain if you hear Obama saying this why you don't believe it.
Where do you think all this money is coming from?
Are you naive enough to think they just print it? TAXES. Too many "social programs" means more TAXES, not only from the rich but from everyone.
Yes, I think there is a depression coming if it isn't already here. sm
I live in Michigan, on the west side of the state, but nonetheless in Michigan. We are so tied up in the auto industry that if the Big 3 crash and burn, Michigan may well just cease to exist. We have had 3 auto parts plants close down, Steelcase and Herman Miller are cutting jobs, because people are not hiring, so why make all that office furniture. There is nothing incoming to help take up the slack. Then, I heard on the news this morning that the city of Detroit has now appealed to the feds for help to bail it out. Detroit IS big 3 auto country. If Detroit tanks, so goes the rest of the state. Kwame Kilpatrick fallout not withstanding.
I like to think that as long as people get sick, I will have a job because I do acute care. And we all know that there are people who use the ED as a PCP. Hopefully my doctor in AZ can help me out, but he is a specialist, so who knows.
My 403(b) has lost half of what it used to be, and then I hear that they have suspended the sales of MRE's. But I think that is just over-excitable hype.
However....I have a feeling that the "Great Depression" 2008 style is coming. I don't think the "End Times" is coming, but something has to give or the United States of America will become another third world country.
And where this funding coming from?
xx
Funny coming from YOU
calling the kettle black!
I Told You It Was Coming
http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/v/11/52289.html
This has been long coming even before
Bushy took over. Bush didn't help by any means but he wasn't the only greedy SOB who contributed to this mess. Our government as a whole is pretty darn greedy and they keep sticking it to the American people and we let them. So what will we say when unemployment continues to rise under Obama's regime? What will we say when his stimulus packages stimulates absolutely nothing? What will we say when the jobs Obama might create are only temporary jobs? What will we say when at the end of his first term things are worse than they are now and the deficit has doubled if not more? What will you say when government has control of everything?
Bush is no longer in office. We now have to hold Obama's feet to the fire. I'm tired of putting blind faith in my president. Obama is not going to turn our country around. In fact, I believe he will finish the job of running it into the ground. Then what? Are you finally going to blame Obama for all the spending he has done in the first couple months of his presidency? When government totally takes over everything, are you going to stop and realize that all of these government programs Obama wants to institute are the cause? No....you will still be whining about 8 years under Bush.
Stop this pub vs dem thing. They all suck!!!!! no group is better. They are all liars and all out for themselves. Stand up to government and make them work for us like they are supposed to.
I take that as a compliment coming from you!
;-)
It is coming true................
 Everything that was said about Obama and what he would try to do is happening....... Now his administration is labeling conservatives as "extremist" and just before the tea parties because he knows the citizens are ****!! AND you hide and watch...... I guarantee you he is now telling all first responders to watch out for those people exercising their 1st amendment rights of showing their disdain for the government robbing them blind of their hard earned money. This should frighten everyone.....even those that think Obama is such a wonderful thing!
This criminal administration is on their way to trying to shut up ANYONE that speaks out against any of their policies while at the same time letting crooks like ACORN break laws left and right and all their crooks wall free, not to mention deciding who will or WILL NOT run PRIVATE business. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT IN PRIVATE BUSINESSES..........that is illegal!!!! What about this do people not get???!!!!!!
YOUR government is trying to shut up anyone who does not agree with them and these tea parties are very telling about how UNHAPPY and downright ANGRY this country is with his administration right now!!! And believe me, he couldn't care less! For all those that couldn't care less about what he is doing to your country, wailt until you can't FIND your paycheck, let alone pay a bill with it. Show me where all that money is you thought you were going to get!? I mean the working class, not the freeloading losers!!! You don't see a bigger check do you? With the cap and trade going full force, you will be lucky to even keep your utilities on....
AND the Obama administration has now spoke of "investigating" anyone THEY think doesn't agree with them, calling themn "extremists"! Those of us who saw this coming tried to tell you he WOULD do this but all the O lovers said no, that's not what he means.......... BULL, that's exactly what he is about to do. Someone needs to remind all the O lovers this is their country and your government can't LEGALLY investigate you or shut you up just because you don't like their policies and speak out!!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! Stop thinking none of this affects you......... it affects ALL of you!!!
And this surprises you coming
from a man who is making millions of money off of global warming when it is still highly denounced by some scientists? LOL! Gore is a joke...a big FAT joke who preaches about global warming and then gets in his private jet and flies off into the skies.
Keep coming back to this however...
Though I don't agree with the murder of this man and I certainly don't agree with him murdering unborn babies by the thousands, I can't help but wonder how much "suffering" his wife or children went through for decades knowing her husband murdered babies while they "suffered" violent deaths, all the while reaping the benefits of his profession with her lifestyle. A lot of questions come to my mind about "suffering" in this case....
The ultimate hypocrisy coming from you! nm
This crises was coming way before Bush
While I'm sick of it too the oil situation has been coming to a head for a long time. A good part of it is due to the fact that the environmentalists have blocked the building of new refineries and have blocked drilling in the desolate wasteland of ANWR which is projected to have billions of barrels of oil. The sole responsibility of our current gas prices is not due to the war but due to multiple factors which have not been addressed over the last several years, and the blatant blocking tactics of environmentalists.
|
