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Did you even look at the calculator. It says it all? Educate yourself. nm

Posted By: Mrs. M on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: Geesh, did you even watch the videos, what fabulous tax break, for who?? - nm

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From an IRS calculator
From an official IRS tax calculator:

 

2000 tax on married filing jointly, 1 deduction, not itemized, income of $42,000 was $4778.

 

2007 tax on married filing jointly, 1 deduction, not itemized, income of $42,000 was $3403. 

 

That's $114 a month. 

 

The reason I used 2000 and 2007 was that 2007 was after the Bush tax cuts, which are due to expire soon (I'm not sure when). 

 

So when Obama says he will not raise taxes on those making $42,000, he knows full well the democratic congress with Obama pressure will allow the tax cut to expire.  

 

So what's the fact?    I guess it depends on your point of view. 

 

So my conclusion is that Obama is not telling the entire truth.  McCain is not telling the entire truth either.  However, I will say this, without hesitation: under Obama, taxes on $42,000 will definitely increase, under McCain they will "probably" stay the same (depending on pressure applied to congress). 

Calculator does NOT take into consideration...
Obama letting Bush's tax cuts expire, and don't post that tired lie that only people making more than $250,000 got Bush tax cuts.

SO what paltry little tax break you get from Obama will be more than eaten UP by losing the Bush tax cuts..and if you were concerned about the truth you would verify this. But you probably already have, and since it doesn't look good for Obama...you promptly dismissed it from your mind....?
that calculator is incorrect
It does not acct for the repeal of the Bush tax cuts, and in the end you will end up paying more. Read all the posts below from yesterday about this. Geez, do you believe everything? Like no politicians lie?
Here it is! The tax cut calculator!!! Obama vs. McCain sm

This is great! 


http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/


 


 


 


 


Does the calculator also factor in lies!

xx


Oh by all means....he acutally has a calculator...
on his website. lol.
Here is the Obama vs McCain/Bush tax calculator sm
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/


Maybe you should educate

I don't think anyone is going to argue that Nam vets were treated very badly by Americans when they were fighting the war.


To suggest that someone has watched too many war movies because they recognize a very real syndrome that afflicts these veterans not only shows YOUR ignorance but detracts from the brave combat duty these soldiers engaged in.


What about all the Agent Orange babies who were born as a result of their fathers' exposure while they were there?  Have you ever known or seen one?


My boyfriend was in the First Cav in the Army and was a paratrooper.  He gets 200 5-mg Valiums a month from the VA, PLUS 200 Serax to control his PTSD symptoms.  In addition to all this, he's an alcoholic.  His first marriage broke up because of it, and his first wife tried very hard.  She's a VA OR nurse, so she knows the ropes about all this.  His youngest son is severely mentally and physically handicapped because of Agent Orange.  Medical tests have proven it.


I've met many people, most of them conservatives, who "poo-poo" PTSD and think it's a fake illness.  I can tell you from firsthand knowledge that it ISN'T.  It is something that stays with them throughout their entire lives, and it not only affects the veteran, it also affects every member of the veteran's family.  I know several Nam vets who have committed suicide, with the help of the more than ample supply of drugs freely given to them by the VA Administration. This is a very serious problem, and to suggest that their only problem was protests of the American people does nothing but negate a very real problem that exists. 


Yes, they were treated very badly by Americans, but that's like swatting at gnats when a hungry lion is coming towards you.


educate yourself
You are the one who needs an education and I find it offensive that you think you know so much about a religion that you are not of. 
No, you really don't want to educate yourself
people stuck on dem/pub party lines and couldn't care less about your country.
Why don't you educate yourself and get off your
nm
You need to educate yourself.
The Defense Department twice asked President Barack Obama for permission to use military force to rescue Phillips, most recently late Friday evening, U.S. officials said. On Saturday morning, Obama signed off on the Pentagon's request, as he had a day earlier, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Apparently, Barack Obama had everything to do with freeing this man. You really need to read the news and become educated about an issue before you post such blatantly false accusations.
Go educate yourself. I used to be uninformed too,
nm
Then may I suggest you educate yourself and
xx
You're right. You should educate yourself out of
nm
Educate me oh great one....(sm)
If you're going to make a claim, especially about something people should fear, you might want to try including some facts --- assuming you have any.
Educate me oh great one....(sm)
If you're going to make a claim, especially about something people should fear, you might want to try including some facts --- assuming you have any.
It's even harder to educate an idiot.
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Here - let me try to educate you on a couple of matters
Obama's mother was in Kenya. Could not fly back to the US due to her late stage in pregnancy. After the birth she flew to HI to register the birth that happened in Kenya.

The law at the time of his birth was that a US Citizen may only pass to a child born overseas to a US citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Obama's mother was 18 years old. Therefore, because US citizenship could not legally be passed to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born".

Also, if for some reason he could somehow have been deemed "natural born" that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia where his mother married his stepfather .

But since he was never an American citizen to begin with there was nothing to take away.

Just because you have a mother who is a citizen does not automatically qualify you as a citizen. Just the way the laws were then.

Whether you like it or not those are the laws.

Besides...why is everyone in such an uproar. If everyone is so certain that Obama was born in Hawaii, then why is everyone defending so hard for an independent party to be able to view Obama's original birth certificate - the one he has yet failed to provide.

So, if he is american born, the judges will examine it, and if he's natural born life will move on. If not, you will still have a democratic president. No big deal.
Educate yourself. Read the post above that says they stalk.
That's what "no child left behind" means: A high school education in exchange for your kid dying for Bush.



Certainly the Jews have suffered enough but not enough for Cindy. Educate yourself. nm

If you are going to give money to re-educate the auto workers....... sm
then it would follow that money should be given to sustain and re-educate the people in other industries (MT comes to mind) that are suffering because of big suit mismanagement and jobs going overseas. What about the thousands upon thousands of other displaced workers in the public sector that have lost their jobs? Will they need to be re-educated as well? Will there be jobs available to them, even if they are re-educated?

Maybe that's what all those re-education centers all over America are for. hmmmmmmm