Did Obama skip Bush's speech? sm
Posted By: sm on 2009-01-15
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Looks like he did. Very unbecoming, disrepectful side of Pres-elect Obama we're seeing.
Did Obama Skip Bush's Speech?
Posted by Michelle Levi| Comments10
As his predecessor, President Bush, said his final goodbyes to America on national television, President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle dined at the DC restaurant, Equinox Thursday night.
CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic, who waited outside the restaurant, reports that there is no indication whether or not Mr. Obama was watching President Bush's farewell remarks.
The President-elect departed the Blair house, located right across the street from the White House podium from which the president spoke, minutes before President Bush commenced.
A host at the restaurant tells CBS News' that the President-elect stopped by the only television in the high end establishment, a small screen at the bar, and watched for "a minute or two." The source said he did not notice what Mr. Obama was watching but that "no" it was not for an extended period of time.
No one from Obama's transition team has responded to CBS News' inquiries as to whether he was watching the address.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4726147.shtml
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Did Obama skip Bush's speech? sm
Looks like he did.
Did Obama Skip Bush's Speech?
Posted by Michelle Levi| Comments10
As his predecessor, President Bush, said his final goodbyes to America on national television, President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle dined at the DC restaurant, Equinox Thursday night.
CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic, who waited outside the restaurant, reports that there is no indication whether or not Mr. Obama was watching President Bush's farewell remarks.
The President-elect departed the Blair house, located right across the street from the White House podium from which the president spoke, minutes before President Bush commenced.
A host at the restaurant tells CBS News' that the President-elect stopped by the only television in the high end establishment, a small screen at the bar, and watched for "a minute or two." The source said he did not notice what Mr. Obama was watching but that "no" it was not for an extended period of time.
No one from Obama's transition team has responded to CBS News' inquiries as to whether he was watching the address.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4726147.shtml
Did you skip the part about hate speech and assassignations?
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Broken Record...skip, skip, skip, skip.
I guess that is what you do when you run out of anything important to say!
Broken record, skip, skip, skip
You just keep repeating the same things over and over and over again. Please, find something new to say!
Bush's Speech
Bush was surprisingly coherent and articulate in explaining the bailout and its reasoning. His plan, by the way, is virtually identical to the one that the White House and Senate Democrats hammered out and Senate Republicans stonewalled a couple weeks ago.
The pay cut for auto workers is nonbinding, and there are limits on executive pay.
I saw Bush's welcome home speech.
Proud of the Texas community welcoming home Bush. If I did not like the area I lived in, I would have moved to Texas. Do not really like the seasons and climate in Texas, but sure love the people there. Just an incredible speech. He sure is family oriented. Wish him the best and cannot wait to read his book. He kept us safe. Did you hear China did not like Obama's speech yesterday?
Bush's Exit speech was REALLY scary
I'll take an educated, insightful, young, inexperienced president, willing and able to learn from the bottom up, over the absolute moron that Bush proved himself to be one last time during his Exit press conference. Watching it was horrific . . . this idiot was the 'head' of US government for the past 8 years, and he must have been SO protected by press secretaries and speech writers during that time, because watching his Exit speech was like watching Barney Fife bumble his way through a chat with no knowledge, no information. The only difference is Barney Fife didn't send thousands of Americans to the Middle East to their death.
With the huge pile of dung left behind by the Bush administration, ANYTHING that President Obama initiates toward digging us out financially and politically, and returning a modicum of respect to the US from the rest of the world (to whom we have been made to look like an idiotic bully by Barney Bush) will earn President Obama a spotlighted place in history, as turning this mess around would be a huge accomplishment.
"Can't teach an old dog new tricks" should have been the Bush administrations credo.
Obama is willing to learn, listen, appoint cabinet members of opposing views, and he is much more savvy than you give him credit for. I suggest reading one of his books to gain some insight; this just may allay your unwarranted fears.
Bush's Iraq Speech: Long On Assertion, Short On Facts
Bush says "progress is uneven" in Iraq, but accentuates positive evidence and mostly ignores the negative.
June 30, 2005
Standing before a crowd of uniformed soldiers, President Bush addressed the nation on June 27 to reaffirm America's commitment to the global war on terrorism. But throughout the speech Bush continually stated his opinions and conclusions as though they were facts, and he offered little specific evidence to support his assertions.
Here we provide some additional context, both facts that support Bush's case that "we have made significant progress" in Iraq, as well as some of the negative evidence he omitted.
Analysis
Bush's prime-time speech at Fort Bragg, NC coincided with the one-year anniversary of the handover of soverignty to Iraqi authorities. It was designed to lay out America's role in Iraq amid sinking public support for the war and calls by some lawmakers to withdraw troops.
The Bloodshed
Bush acknowledged the high level of violence in Iraq as he sought to reassure the public.
Bush: The work in Iraq is difficult and dangerous. Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying and the suffering is real. Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it?
What Bush did not mention is that by most measures the violence is getting worse. Both April and May were record months in Iraq for car bombings, for example, with more than 135 of them being set off each month. And the bombings are getting more deadly. May was a record month for deaths from bombings, with 381 persons killed in "multiple casualty" bombings that took two or more lives, according to figures collected by the Brookings Institution in its "Iraq Index." The Brookings index is compiled from a variety of sources including official government statistics, where those are available, and other public sources such as news accounts and statements of Iraqi government officials.
The number of Iraqi police and military who have been killed is also rising, reaching 296 so far in June, nearly triple the 109 recorded in January and 103 in Febrary, according to a tally of public information by the website Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, a private group that documents each fatality from public statements and news reports. Estimates of the total number of Iraqi civilians killed each month as a result of "acts of war" have been rising as well, according to the Brookings index.
The trend is also evident in year-to-year figures. In the past twelve months, there have been 25% more U.S. troop fatalities and nearly double the average number of insurgent attacks per day as there were in the preceeding 12 months.
Reconstruction Progress
In talking about Iraqi reconstruction, Bush highlighted the positive and omitted the negative:
Bush: We continued our efforts to help them rebuild their country. . . . Our progress has been uneven but progress is being made. We are improving roads and schools and health clinics and working to improve basic services like sanitation, electricity and water. And together with our allies, we will help the new Iraqi government deliver a better life for its citizens.
Indeed, the State Department's most recent Iraq Weekly Status Report shows progress is uneven. Education is a positive; official figures show 3,056 schools have been rehabilitated and millions of "student kits" have been distributed to primary and secondary schools. School enrollments are increasing. And there are also 145 new primary healthcare centers currently under construction. The official figures show 78 water treatment projects underway, nearly half of them completed, and water utility operators are regularly trained in two-week courses.
On the negative side, however, State Department figures show overall electricity production is barely above pre-war levels. Iraqis still have power only 12 hours daily on average.
Iraqis are almost universally unhappy about that. Fully 96 percent of urban Iraqis said they were dissatisfied when asked about "the availability of electricity in your neighborhood." That poll was conducted in February for the U.S. military, and results are reported in Brookings' "Iraq Index." The same poll also showed that 20 percent of Iraqi city-dwellers still report being without water to their homes.
Conclusions or Facts?
The President repeatedly stated his upbeat conclusions as though they were facts. For example, he said of "the terrorists:"
Bush: They failed to break our coalition and force a mass withdrawal by our allies. They failed to incite an Iraqi civil war.
In fact, there have been withdrawals by allies. Spain pulled out its 1,300 soldiers in April, and Honduras brought home its 370 troops at the same time. The Philippines withdrew its 51 troops last summer to save the life of a Filipino hostage held captive for eight months in Iraq. Ukraine has already begun a phased pullout of its 1,650-person contingent, which the Defense Ministry intends to complete by the end of the year. Both the Netherlands and Italy have announced plans to withdraw their troops, and the Bulgarian parliament recently granted approval to bring home its 450 soldiers. Poland, supplying the third-largest contingent in the coalition after Italy's departure, has backed off a plan for full withdrawal of troops due to the success of Iraqi elections and talks with Condoleezza Rice, but the Polish Press Agency announced in June that the next troop rotation will have 200 fewer soldiers.
Bush is of course entitled to argue that these withdrawals don't constitute a "mass" withdrawal, but an argument isn't equivalent to a fact.
The same goes for Bush's statement there's no "civil war" going on. In fact, some believe that what's commonly called the "insurgency" already is a "civil war" or something very close to it. For example, in an April 30 piece, the Times of London quotes Colonel Salem Zajay, a police commander in Southern Baghdad, as saying, "The war is not between the Iraqis and the Americans. It is between the Shia and the Sunni." Again, Bush is entitled to state his opinion to the contrary, but stating a thing doesn't make it so.
Terrorism
Similarly, Bush equated Iraqi insurgents with terrorists who would attack the US if they could.
Bush: There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them abroad before they attack us at home. . . . Our mission in Iraq is clear. We are hunting down the terrorists .
Despite a few public claims to the contrary, however, no solid evidence has surfaced linking Iraq to attacks on the United States, and Bush offered none in his speech. The 9/11 Commission issued a staff report more than a year ago saying "so far we have no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States." It said Osama bin Laden made a request in 1994 to establish training camps in Iraq, but "but Iraq apparently never responded." That was before bin Laden was ejected from Sudan and moved his operation to Afghanistan.
Bush laid stress on the "foreign" or non-Iraqi elements in the insurgency as evidence that fighting in Iraq might prevent future attacks on the US:
Bush: I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country . And tonight I will explain the reasons why.
Some of the violence you see in Iraq is being carried out by ruthless killers who are converging on Iraq to fight the advance of peace and freedom. Our military reports that we have killed or captured hundreds of foreign fighters in Iraq who have come from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Libya and other nations.
But Bush didn't mention that the large majority of insurgents are Iraqis, not foreigners. The overall strength of the insurgency has been estimated at about 16,000 persons. The number of foreign fighters in Iraq is only about 1,000, according to estimates reported by the Brookings Institution. The exact number is of course impossible to know. However, over the course of one week during the major battle for Fallujah in November of 2004, a Marine official said that only about 2% of those detained were foreigners. To be sure, Brookings notes that "U.S. military believe foreign fighters are responsible for the majority of suicide bombings in Iraq," with perhaps as many as 70 percent of bombers coming from Saudi Arabia alone. It is anyone's guess how many of those Saudi suicide bombers might have attempted attacks on US soil, but a look at the map shows that a Saudi jihadist can drive across the border to Baghdad much more easily than getting nearly halfway around the world to to the US.
Osama bin Laden
Bush quoted a recent tape-recorded message by bin Laden as evidence that the Iraq conflict is "a central front in the war on terror":
Bush: Hear the words of Osama bin Laden: "This Third World War is raging" in Iraq..."The whole world is watching this war." He says it will end in "victory and glory or misery and humiliation."
However, Bush passed over the fact that the relationship between bin Laden and the Iraqi insurgents – to the extent one existed at all before – grew much closer after the US invaded Iraq. Insurgent leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi did not announce his formal allegiance with bin Laden until October, 2004. It was only then that Zarqawi changed the name of his group from "Unification and Holy War Group" to "al Qaeda in Iraq."
In summary, we found nothing false in what Bush said, only that his facts were few and selective.
--by Brooks Jackson & Jennifer L. Ernst
Researched by Matthew Barge, Kevin Collins & Jordan Grossman
If you believe Obama's SPEECH,
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Video of Obama Speech. s/m
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25835684#25835684
Barack Obama's Speech sm
President-elect Obama's acceptance speech.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/11/barack-obama.html
My DH's impression of an Obama speech: sm
"Todaaaay is a new day. Tomorrooooow will come. I will change all of the changes that have changed us yesterday by changing tomorrow, which comes after today."
Before anyone jumps on me, it is a JOKE. We did not vote for Obama but will support him as much as we can from here on out. The joke above is just a play on his grandiose speeches that, really, say absolutely nothing--but he sounds good! LOL
A JOKE. Kind of like those Bush jokes people tell...has anyone heard one of those????:-/
I listened to the speech. It probably sounded a lot like the one Obama..
gave at the dailykos convention. She stated twice very significantly about the Alaska constitution. That is the antithesis of secession. As governor she was recognizing a recognized party in her state. I don't think there is as much antipathy between parties in Alaska as there are in the lower 48. I see no problem in recognizing them. I am not willing to assume that Obama ascribes to the ascerbic smut from dailykos just because he spoke to them. I guess that makes me somewhat more broad-minded than you?
You mean something by "sambo?"
When Obama gave his speech tonight, I...
noticed the audience was made up of different ethnic groups. What I also noticed was how they embraced one another - whites were hugging blacks, blacks were hugging whites, etc,etc. Obama said he wanted to bring about change and he already has begun to accomplish that. When he says, "Yes We Can," he is talking about overcoming adversity.
A lot of you may not have voted for Obama, but don't be bitter and angry because he won. When you become bitter and angry, you only hurt yourself in the long run.
Unfortunately, Obama's speech was full of lies
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Yes, that speech made Obama look like a robot.
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Bush speech on terror, followed by *surprise* terror alert. Whaaaaaaaaat?
Bush took to TV cameras again to try to sell his Brooklyn Bridge of a war, this time tossing around buzz words like *communism* and *fascism.* (Yawn)
But wait!!
Within a couple hours, during a televised news conference with Mayor Bloomberg, it was announced that evidence of a bomb threat specific to place, time and method had been received and that the source was very credible. (First thought: *But I thought were were fighting them there so we don't have to fight them HERE.* Second thought: *This is bad. We've been warned in advance of this. Look what happened when we were warned in advance about Katrina?!*)
Yikes!
But wait!
Shortly following that news conference with Mayor Bloomberg, the powers that be in Washington issued a statement that the threat has doubtful credibility.
Oh.
Okay. Just another terror warning in America......or not.
"kill him" speech is not acceptable free speech - it is against the law - nm
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skip them
Anger? Nah, but I do wonder as over and over and over and over you post posts stating I have anger and hate and whatever which I wonder could they possibly be your problems as Im just trying to post my democratic beliefs and if you dont agree, dont read my posts. period..skip over them and post you republican spew..
I would rather skip the
hope for divine intervention and ask the government that collects our tax dollars to help our fellow citizens. There must be some spare change from all the money spent on war they can direct to citizens in need.
They sure did. I think they are going to skip the NAU. sm
They are asking us to join the EU. All the power elites (bankers) are meeting November 15th - one world currency? They are not being secretive about it anymore and I think they will usher it in pretty quickly or we will get another false flag to terrorize us into accepting it.
skip my posts
This is the liberal board, you dont like my opinions, dont read them, its as easy as that. Free country, freedom of speech..
skip the bashing for a second, sim
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Actually, I do skip over a lot of your posts
my point is that here you are telling us we should all stop and be respectful and not post about O until he's had a chance to grieve, and yet, up to this point, you have been posting. So now, we should all stop and listen to the "messiah" and not post? Give me a break!
So skip my posts, not hard to do.
And...the attacks start..cant get through a day without them, hun? I think it means a lot to me that Bush's grandfather helped finance Hitler's war machine..and this is where Bush's family got his money. It means major things to me. As far as Kennedy, that is not who is our president, Bush is. Means a lot to me..do I care if you think so or not, nope..so just move on to another post and delete this one from your brain..If anyone is going off the *deep end*, it is you for getting your panties all wadded up on this post..How's your BP? Did I get it steaming yet?
Just in case you skip the message,
see post directly above
Again. Not about the skirt. Did you skip the part
There are 2 things sucking hot air this morning. One is Ike and the other one is that space between your 2 ears. When facing the aspect of loss of lives or those of our family members, a little indignation is in order. I am a female. "Lipstick" and "skirt" are things I wear and are associated with a female. I am not sexist against my own gender. HELLO. Ike is the scary one. SP, a pipsqueak. Go erect an alter in your living room, light some incense and candles and throw up her picture and worship to your heart's content, but give the rest of us a break from this for a day or two. Truly amazing that you cannot see the world that lays beyond this flash in the pan.
Most of us grownups would prefer to skip the HM
get down to business.
Great solution. Skip healthcare for the parents.
Because it is great for kids to be motherless and fatherless? Right. I actually do not have any health insurance, and since I put my kids first (who are covered btw), that is okay for now, but should I really have to do without? I agree tax refunds would be good for people who pay health insurance, but I think a better solution would be for government to force the health insurance companies to offer more affordable, straight-forward plans. WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO AGAINST FREE OR AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE FOR KIDS WHO DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE WHAT INCOME LEVEL/INTELLIGENCE LEVEL THEIR PARENTS ARE. I am a broken record here. I don't care what argument you give me, I will still believe that government should cover all kids, just like it already covers all poor people. Does a poor adult deserve better healthcare than a middle-income child? No, of course not, but God forbid someone raise your taxes (even though they will continue to rise regardless) to fund health care for kids.
You must skip all the "rabid" democrat discussion, and obviously don't count...sm
However, rather unfair to use the term "rabid" for any of us, don't you think?
I'd love to hear from the gal that was keeping score yesterday, to see who really rants and rails the most.
Seems to me the dems on this board far out rant the reps, and yet I don't see you calling the dems rabid.
rabid
One entry found.
Main Entry:
ra·bid Listen to the pronunciation of rabid
Pronunciation:
ˈra-bəd also ˈrā-
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin rabidus mad, from rabere
Date:
1594
1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion
2: affected with rabies
Did you skip the part about the palpable surge of activity
Here's a news flash for you. They were exaggerating, distorting and, on a few occasions, LYING about Obama. That's beside the point. It was irresponsible and dangerous for a campaign or candidates to continue along a course of rhetoric that incites racism, bigotry, division, hatred and fear when it is patently evident in the blogosphere what the effect was....no help in their poll numbers (in fact, numbers going south) but HUGE spike in the "activity" in question. McCain and Palin were vetting their leadership capacity in the election. This is not leadership in any shapre, form or fashion. It is what it is...hate speech. THAT'S the bottom line.
I was no Bush fan, but I see Obama as much
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Because Obama is not as friendly with Bush
serving caviar for anyone who attends that meeting. I'm sorry but I'm tired of the rich getting richer. I think Obama is right; let's stay on task which is the debate.
Biden could easily step in as President, why do you think he ran intially? Palin, hmmm, dunno, she seems so "not ready" even though she thinks her name should come first; hmmm, slip up, I doubt it. She probably thinks in her mind she's going to be the next president, but she's sadly mistaken. She needs to get back in the kitchen where she belongs, yup, with her family issues, they need her right now. It sounds like Alaska really loves her too and she should stay there in Alaska and take care of her business there in between tanning sessions.
Bush/McCain/Obama
I already hid my money. Might be if Obama is elected I can bring it out of hiding. Keep it hid if McCain is elected...........more of G.W. Bush.
thank Obama? He isn't the President.Thank Mr. Bush. NM
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Bush is President. Obama is not (yet).
Very disrepectful to treat him like this. Like I say come 01/20/09 Obama can have at the cameras all he wants 24 hours a day 7 days a week. But to come out and act as though he is already president is very disrespectful.
Yep! That's it! Blame what Bush has done on Obama...
...again! LOL!
How pitiful. 
No, but Bush would not work to end it, Obama will. nm
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Obama won't. Bush has earned
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Obama does not use Bush's phrases,
because he wants to bring
CHANGE.
Hatred breeds hatred, let's all try it with love.
So what you're saying is that what was okay for Bush is now okay for Obama?
What about that change we can believe in and choosing morals over fear, etc, etc.? It was a bad idea in 2000 and it still stinks in 2010 - doesn't matter who's doing it.
No. I'm saying that Bush left Obama a lot
disastrous years. Obama simply needs a list of what is most important and a truckload of Hefty bags.
Bush sr having lunch with Obama Bin Laden?
freudian slip? LOL. Before you have a canniption...joke. lol.
Here is the Obama vs McCain/Bush tax calculator sm
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/
Obama said he was going to let Bush's tax cuts expire....
there is nothing at this site that suggests this takes into consideration letting Bush's tax cuts expire. Everyone should look at what Bush's tax cuts were and what you are going to lose when Obama lets them expire. Get the whole story.
THe Bush tax cuts that Obama is going to let expire...
DID help hardworking people. Do you even know what they are? Sheesh.
Nixon = Carter; Bush = Obama
It looks as though both of these democrats were handed a huge bag of flaming s*it that they were/are expected to clean up in a nanosecond. No, I'm not a democrat, either. But I am fed up with the label "liberal" being used like an expletive. Liberal means "free thinking," and I am honored to be a liberal. I don't need to walk in lockstep so others can do my thinking for me. I want our country to prosper and survive and I'm placing my trust in Obama's hands. I pray he succeeds.
OBAMA has already put in motion AND END TO BUSH'S WAR CRIMES sm
Bush committed war crimes and Obama on day one of his presidency has already put in place measures to stop the crimes. Be proud because these are issues that affect human rights for all of us.
Read up, do your research, see what Amnesty International says... be PROUD now instead of ashamed to be an American! We are on the road to recovery, albeit a long road but at least Obama has us on track.
I'm sorry...........is Bush in office? Thought Obama
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Give me a break! It is okay if it was Bush, but not okay for Obama!
Guess it will never be okay to make fun of the chosen one.
People thought Bush was so bad, under Obama,
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