Definitely more fair and balanced than the mainstream media...
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: Yeah. That fair and balanced claim - is hardly an accurate description. nm
surely you can admit that??
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Mainstream media are Bush apologists, hardly balanced.sm
We get Bush propaganda 24/7. They say the same thing over and over and over again until people believe it. At least Russians realized the stories Tass told them were stupid and censored. Here, if the government and news says its so, it must be gospel even if the stories can't possibly be true. They have you convinced it is patriotic to be a fascist and loyal to the state instead of to your fellow Americans. If there really is a liberal media out there, I sure wish they would speak up.
I am a Fox fan, because I believe they are fair and they are balanced...
and I think they really did the right thing in this case. I hope nobody airs it. It will get ugly enough without that kind of thing floating around.
Yes fair and balanced. sm
I disagree - it is well known that they are extremely right-slanted. Fair and balanced. What a joke. Why do you think people in the know refer to them as Faux or Fixed news - just a coincidence?
Chris Wallace's vicious sucker-punch attack on Bill Clinton (wherin Wallace got his rear end handed to him on a platter).
Fair and balanced....LOL (sm)
That must be why they tried to pass off that GOP press release like it was their own....complete with the same typos...
Truly Fair And Balanced
Something here for everyone.
Yep - looks fair and balanced - NOT
LOL. Yeah, and they claim to be fair and balanced. NM
Yeah. That fair and balanced claim
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I don't think this guy qualifies as mainstream media...sm
I can see his point even though he's going out on a limb to say we are 'protecting' pro-Hezbollah protestors (so as to suggest we are protecting them only).
However, our soldiers are securing Baghdad and working hard at it. The fact that they have to even secure a rally for the very same people who wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire was more of the point I took from it.
Only if the rest of the mainstream media...
put vote for obama stickers on their foreheads.
according to the liberal mainstream media maybe!
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fair and balanced . . . fair and
balanced . . . we're looking out for YOU . . . we're looking out for the FOLKs . . . fair and balanced . . .
In the mainstream media? You gotta be kidding....
they would fall on their collective swords before printing anything derogatory....well maybe bury it on page 30. lol.
You will NOT see this site reported in the mainstream media....
way too much in the tank for Obama. In fact, they are as mesmerized as the people on this site (remember Chris Matthews of MSNBC and the tingle up his leg when Obama spoke). Never could I "pull the lever" for this guy. No way. No how.
I wasn't talking about mainstream media....... sm
I was talking about this forum. Apparently you have not been around here for long.....or just chose to ignore the Bush Bash Fest that has been going on here.
Go ahead and kick back. Don't forget to get a refill on that kool-aid......you'll be needing it.
Fair & balanced - they give both sides equal time
They let both sides speak. They have equal guests meaning 2 pubs & 2 crats, or 1 pub and 1 crat. Unlike the other liberal stations who have 5 crats and 1 pub.
They tell the news like it is. There is more to Fox News than O'Reilly and Hannity. I'm watching Shepard Smith and others who are reporting news stories. These are the same news stories I see on other channels. They are fair because they give a chance for the opposing side to explain themselves and they are balanced because they have equal number of people. What liberals don't like is that the conservatives have anything to say at all. The liberals want to control the country (getting one heck of a start too), which would be an economic disaster to the country (thank you Pelosi with your pet pig projects you keep hiding in the stimulus and Reid for slipping in a pig project that does nothing for the rest of the country). The liberals are trying to shut down anyone with opposing viewpoints than theirs, and they are having their lawyers re-write the laws and change to consitution. - Not good for America. The only thing this stimulus plan is good for is to get people re-elected into their position. Congress does not give a hoot about America....
Pelosi: "Hurry fellas lets vote, I'm off to Rome". Hey there Pelosi, have a good trip, while we all wait for our pink slips and food stamps. Have yourself a great time at our expense.
No, true conservative economists have been silenced in mainstream media.
Palin really seems to scare the loony lefties and mainstream media
One has to wonder why they continue to expend so much time and effort on trying to villify, ridicule and harass this woman - who isn't running for any office at the moment.
Personally, I think it's highly unlikely that Palin would be nominated or run in 2012, but why are the Democrats already worrying about the next presidential race? Hmmmm? Passing strange, if you ask me, considering what we've got on our plate to deal with right now.
The mainstream media hogs you speak of are actually those bottom dwellers at MSNBC and
broadcast news, NOT Hannity or any of those to whom you refer.
Fair enough....notice especially the word FAIR. nm
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So you're saying the left controls the media? I thought the media produced the story.
I haven't seen or heard one thing blaming Obama's crew for this. Where can I read about the right aligning to attack the left? Where did you find this information? Or is this just your observation and opinion of things?
Speaking of the media, let's take a poll who thinks the media has run amuck sm
and which ones do you think are the most ridiculous? Fox News, NYT, AP, Wash. Post, CNN, your choice.
Mainstream
Most mainstream Christian denominations don't consider Revelations to be telling of the future. I have always heard it was a dream and when we studied new testament in Hebrew school we were always taught it was a dream and believed to be a dream. People read tons into Job too, but the Jews were always taught that Job was a play with a message, but not something that really happened.
and you really think by watching the mainstream..
media, MSNC (Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann), Air America and the like YOU are getting the whole picture? Admit it, you just want to hear what agrees with your point of view and nothing else. At least admit the bias.
I do watch CNN, I watch MSNBC until Matthews and Olbermann come on because all you get to hear with those two is what THEY think and they don't even attempt to hide their bias. Laughable really. At least Fox does have a Dem and a Repub at the same time, which is more than I can say for most of the others. And I don't watch Fox exclusively and have heard Limbaugh maybe once or twice, because he is almost as obnoxious as Olbermann sometimes. Can't stand that ego thing on EITHER side. Trouble is...I can see that. Those folks with a Fox and Limbaugh fixation can't see the same problems on the Dem side...namely Matthews and Olbermann. Wonder why that is??
and balanced.......sm
as a matter of fact, he is terribly unbalanced or imbalanced...he wanted to blow up the Coit Towers in San Francisco last month.........or in November. I hate him.
FOX makes no attempt to be balanced, they just SAY that
It's so obvious, my goodness.
whats fair is fair
Truth is, what is good for one is good for the other. If Palin puts herself out there, she is a target. But then so is Obama. The problem is that when you say anything about O people go crazy. When someone says something about Palin, its just true.
Excuse me, but during Clinton administration, we had a balanced budget for the first time in ......s
American history, plus a surplus. I am not saying that everything that Bill Clinton did was good, and keep in mind that you were living in one of the most expensive areas of the country (I used to be a Californian, San Francisco is outrageous), for most of us, there was relative prosperity and peace, even though the Terrorists were were already threatening, but that also went back to Daddy Bush's time. How anyone can think that things are better now, I can't imagine! I am happy for you if you feel you personally are better off,that is great, but area you even seeing the hundreds of thousands of Americans who are filing for unemployment, many for the first time in their lives? Every day more lay-offs and closings? Banking deregulation under the Republican adminstration killed this country in so many ways, not to mention trillions for a war where.....we accomplished what? Why can't the Iraqi people fight for their own independence and freedom, as we did, and as the French did? We got rid of Saddam, and yes he was evil, but Osams is still on the loose. Afghanistan I could see, to get that demon, but going into Iraq? That all came down to oil interestes, IMHO, and Halliburton made a bundle. IMHO
Great and balanced post, so very true, this crisis did not develop.....sm
overnight, and certainly will not be fixed in a short amount of time. And we are All going to have to work together and forget party lines, and forget about the blame, work on a long-term cure and get provisions in government so that this type of unobstructed GREED and thievery CANNOT happen again! Free enterprise yes, runaway deception, elitiism, and legalized loan-sharking and theft, no!!!! Thank you for posting, Z!
Really good, balanced, historical report, SO GLAD you posted!! Something for everyone to learn in t
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being fair?
What is fair when someone talks about aborting a whole race? What has Maher to do with it? I know for a fact if I had said something like Bennett said, I would not have my job or some friends and my family certainly would not be proud of me. OMG, the thought of killing off a whole race to me is pretty serious and I equate it to Hitler wanting to kill off certain types of people. To even try to defend Bennetts words makes me shake my head..Why would anyone want to defend his vile nasty comments? The guy has proven he is a jerk.
That's not fair...sm
I remember at least twice the topic of the Israel/Lebanon coming up, but I'll give you that it has not been discussed a lot.
See my post about WWIII. I also remember posting that I wanted to wait to see how our government reacts.
Fair enough.
Thank you for responding in a respectful manner.
For the record, I felt Kfir's remarks to me were offensive first, and that's why my remarks became nastier. In fact, the remark about Kfir not being representative of most Israelis was in direct response and in the same tone to Kfir's post to me regarding being representative of liberals.
And I don't believe my take on the end times is a fact. It's nothing more than my personal opinion, based on things I read that lead me to feel that way and raise the questions I raised.
I do agree that these issues are very emotionally charged and respect your decision to not discuss them further. Again, thank you for being respectful.
Fair enough, but we need a more immediate
I would be 100% fine with my taxes being raised 3% if it meant healthcare for all American children. Heck, I would be overjoyed with that! So if that bill ever comes up I guarantee you I will support it, but the fact is the current bill is a solution that could help families right now, and I support it. I would support just about any bill that would help lower health insurance costs to American families, honestly. I just truly think this one is great because it is aimed at covering minors. I also think it is great that Republican and Democratic leaders tried to work together and compromise on it and decided to tax cigarettes instead of raising taxes in other areas.
So yes, I would rather have a hike in taxes and have more affordable healthcare for kids. Is that the best solution for lower health care costs for adult Americans? Maybe not, but for the minors with no choice in what kind of family they are born into I think it is a great choice.
DW...that is not fair...
I SAID Democrats then...and I also said the Democratic Congress, because in that, just as in the Iraq War vote, the Congress is responsible, not the rank and file. The rank and file did not have an opportunity to vote on it. I NEVER said that Democratic Party TODAY was responsible for it (they are only responsible for the denial of it, and again, I mean the DNC, the policy makers, not the rank and file), I certainly NEVER said YOU personally were responsible. Why is it, help me understand, that if someone points out something truthful though not pleasant, that the "party" has done, you take it personally like I am saying it is you personally? This was a post entirely about the "party."
I guess the most startling thing about this whole thing is that if anything is said about the "party" it is taken personally. If I were in the party I would certainly be concerned that the "party" was in a state of denial about it, were actually lying about it on their website (because it is politically inexpedient for everyone to remember the past), I think THAT would offend me just as much. But...that is just me.
Suffice it to say, DW...if you choose to take a post about the Democratic Party, the voting, policy-making COngressional Democratic party at that time, personally, there is nothing I can do about that. It was not meant to be taken personally. However, I repeat...if you are going to be angry, be angry at those who did it and those who continue to lie and deny. Don't blame someone who posted the truth. And please, don't put words in my mouth. I never called Democrats baby killers. I have never called anyone a baby killer. And I certainly have not called anyone here a racist. There are certainly racists in this world, but nothing anyone has said here would make me think they are racist.
All that being said...all politics aside, all party stuff, all that crap...from one American to another...I hope you have a happy, blessed Thanksgiving Day and I hope you have plenty of family and friends around you to enjoy it with you.
Good evening!
Fair enough
point well taken. Sorry I offended you, I just get a little upset when people try and link (not that YOU were trying to link, but other posters have) trying to link any candidate running for president to a known criminal and horrible horrible person. I've heard people link Bush and Saddam together and I've been on the defensive about that.
Sorry again I offended you, I just don't like hearing the two being linked to each other.
Let's be fair now
If you repeat a slogan like "Change we can believe in" enough times you will believe him and his socialist beliefs.
If you think that is fair, well okay. I think it is
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The only one fit for the job of being fair
was Tim Russert. SOOO missing him now. Rest in peace Tim, although I know you are briefing everyone in Heaven lol.
I don't think that is entirely fair....
I think President Bush did a wonderful job after 9-11. I think he was the President we needed then. I still credit him with holding this country together. I think he has it right on terrorism. I have a lot of problems with things he has done and things he has not done...but on 9-11 and terrorism, I think he was the right man.
why does that seem fair to you?
What reason other than jealousy could make it seem fair to impose a higher tax on someone earning more money? So they worked hard, earned more and now they get punished for it because you didn't earn as much?
fair?
i don't like the usage basis because too many will not get needed care 'trying not to use it too much'. i like the preventative measures and the mccain plan that will drive down costs for polices with the competition across state lines and the money for families to purchase insurance.
fair enough....thanks...nm
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Fair enough.
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LOL...fair enough, but...(sm)
Here's what Alaska has to say about it.
http://www.ktva.com/ci_11255829
You can also find this story on Fox, AOL news, and a number of publications. From what I gather, Palin's spokesperson has said she won't accept the raise or will donate it. That really doesn't sound right to me, espcially since not only did she have a hand in selecting the committee that decided to give out the raises, but the committee was actually formed in order to evaluate whether raises were needed.
Why do I care about this? My guess is that we will see her again, so I think it's important to keep up with what she's doing in the meantime. I don't believe in that *out of sight, out of mind* thing.
Okay, let''s be fair about it s/m
let's "level the playing field." Let's have everyone paid on production at exactly the same rate for exactly the same amount of work. Let's level the playing field for MTs, that is ALL dictation goes in a pool, you get paid X amount for the work you do. You have easy stuff and you're fast.....too much advantage there.....need to level the playing field and bring you down to a level with those struggling with ESLs, mushmouths and the like. AND by all means let's not let any bargaining power in to help us with negotiations for better pay or medical benefits and LAST BUT NOT LEAST we sure don't want to trouble the greedy MTSOs with even contributing to a 401K as we all know that all medical transcriptionists have the desire to fall over dead while pounding the keyboard at a fairly young age. Unfortunately I know many who have done just that before they even reached retirement age. Of course by the time you youngsters reach retirement age there won't be such a thing as an MT and you may well be cleaning toilets.
to be fair...
KBR provides the galley in Iraq that my husband eats at, which he says is probably the best galley he has ever been to, and saves us money because he still receives his BAS. Without KBR, we would really not make much more money for him being away than we make when he is home because losing his BAS would basically eat up most of the hazardous duty pay he receives. I cannot get your link to do anything, so I am really not sure what this is all about, but from a military family, we do not think KBR is the root of all evil.
I may not seem fair as a tax cut, but...(sm)
what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it. If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills. That doesn't stimulate the economy. The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this. It's the same theory behind food stamps. Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.
Really, if you look at the tax cuts that we are supposed to get that come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept. When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money. Well, they didn't. They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work. However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy. They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out.
It may not seem fair as a tax cut, but...(sm)
what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it. If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills. That doesn't stimulate the economy. The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this. It's the same theory behind food stamps. Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.
Really, if you look at the tax cuts that the middle class are supposed to get, they come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept. When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money. Well, they didn't. They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work. However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy. They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out. That means the likelihood of the money being spent is greater.
It may not seem fair as a tax cut, but...(sm)
what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it. If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills. That doesn't stimulate the economy. The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this. It's the same theory behind food stamps. Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.
Really, if you look at the tax cuts that the middle class are supposed to get, they come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept. When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money. Well, they didn't. They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work. However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy. They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out. That means the likelihood of the money being spent is greater.
I don't think that is fair.
The subject of abortion is just going way too far left here. If someone doesn't approve of abortions, they should not be forced to do them. If a mother has the right to abort her baby, a doctor should have a right to refuse to perform such a thing. That mother will just have to go to someone else. But to take the rights away from either the mother or the doctor......that isn't right. If you want the government to stay out of your uterus, then don't take free will away from someone who doesn't believe in it by making them perform such an act. Think about it. When you look at it from both sides, the extreme left and the extreme right are both wanting unfair things.
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