Death of Right-Wing Talk Radio Influence sm
Posted By: LVMT on 2006-12-13
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The Death Of Right-Wing Talk Radio Relevance
By Steve Young
Twelve years of unmerited influence and half-truths swathed in red, white and blue patriotism met its demise this past Tuesday with a dagger to the heart served up by revelations from the Iraq Study Group substantiating that everything right wing talk radio had said was right about the Iraqi, was wrong.
Born the day Rush Limbaugh mid-wifed Newt Gingrich's Contract For (On) America, RWTRR lived a healthy and wealthy life duping a great portion of the America public into voting against their own best interests.
Right wing talk grew larger and louder over its lifetime, adding names like Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz, Dennis Prager and many more imitators. They each spent three hours a day catchphrasing words and thoughts - no matter how rickety their evidence (if any) - that the mainstream media would give equal time and space along side the truth.
All of a sudden, the truth was only worth 50% of any issue.
Enabled by a gullible mainstream media hoping to hitch itself to the growing Lords of Loud audience, the Rove-inspired red-herrings were greased up even more by talk radio's band of Professor Harold Hills and shoved charmingly down America's throat. And, as with all great con men, these snake oil salesmen sold hole-cloth, betraying the public trust and making fistfuls of dollars doing it.
To be fair, they had to. It's was a Catch-22. If they had trusted their audience with the truth, they'd have no audience.
But November's election and the ISG report finally drained life-giving oxygen from a lying heart. Not only did the public begin to understand they were being duped, but even the FOBIJB (Friends of Bush including James Baker) could no longer ignore the tide. Of course there will continue to be FOBIL (Friends of Bush Including Lieberman), but they will sustain escalating losses, just as the LOL are losing audience in droves.
But the one-two punch of November's mid-terms compounded by the Iraq Study Group's revelations, knocked a terminal hole in any credibility right wing talk may have had left.
Limbaugh admitted he was shilling for Republicans who didn't deserve to be elected, then attempted to hush the death knell rung by the ISG by recasting it, oh so hysterically, as the Iraq Surrender Group. Get it? He changed one of the words. Second-rate comics who are dying on stage always go for the insipidly obvious and as with the comics, it never gets the audience back.
Hannity has gone off the deep end calling everyone else but himself wrong. He persists on telling liberal callers that we found WMD even though Bush doesn't seem to have gotten the same intelligence Sean has while Curt Weldon and Rick Santorum were voted out of office whipping the same dead horse.
Beck asks an American Congressman to prove he's not working for the enemy.
Prager believes the same Congressman holding his bible will bring down American civilization.
O'Reilly can't drum up many recruits to fight this year's War Against Christmas, and how many times can you hear look at me with out re-tasting last night's dinner?
And Savage...? Well, just Savage.
Oh, they'll keep some listeners, but they'll be talking to a choir who doesn't care that they're hearing to a bunch of cloutless charlatans who never had the guts to serve our country but have no problem sending other families into life-changing horror; fans who don't care their heros had it wrong, and had it wrong over and over. And when it came to the war...dead wrong.
Now any relevance these cascading Lords of Loud might once have had, if not dead, is on life support. And if there are some in the legitimate media who still choose to give these mongrels of misrepresentation any time, space or air, they do it at the risk of their own relevance.
Right-wing talk show relevance was never married but leaves behind soon-to-be-irrelevant offspring: Dick Morris, Bernie Goldberg, Tom DeLay, Ann Coulter, David Horowitz, David Limbaugh, Bill Kristol, Michelle Malkin, General Tommy Franks, Oliver North, James Dobson, Whitewater, Swift Boaters, Flip-flopping, Terri Schiavo, The buses, Outing covert agents as appropriate government behavior, WMD, Saddam's close relationship with bin Laden, If you're against the war your against the troops, If you're against the President's policies you're against America, Activist judges are making laws, Making progress, Tax relief benefitting the middle class, No child left behind is a success, Republican legislators appreciating veterans, Pharmaceutical companies writing drug bills will benefit the public, Stem cell research causes baby cloning, and Wars against Christmas
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yep. talk radio covered this. sm
Rush said that's why they went after him. Seriously, for those who have never explored talk radio, it's like getting your doctorate in history. It's so different than what many think. Of course, I like all of it, but this is a fabulous encyclopedia for sources other than the "drivebys." Of course, that's why the far-left Dems want that so-called Fairness Doctrine. The centrists (what few are left flailing with little or now face time, for obvious reasons) know full well that if it happens to the conservatives, it'll come right back around and hit them in the butts, too.
The Dems are very divided but put on a show for the cameras. If a centrist or a new Rep. doesn't follow The Pelosi Principle, he/she will never get $ for another run, and certainly won't get to introduce anything of interest to that Rep. The domino effect on that trickles down to the Rep's state, which in turn essentially gets nothing.
It's quite refreshing to be able to have a friendly exchange here. What on earth happened? Let's hope it lasts!
don't forget talk radio!
Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too. Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc. Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow. My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox). Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee. If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows. Levin has the same. Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).
Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!
I hope to see future posts from you re this. You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons. MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.
Enjoy!
don't forget talk radio!
Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too. Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc. Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow. My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox). Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee. If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows. Levin has the same. Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).
Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!
I hope to see future posts from you re this. You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons. MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.
Enjoy!
don't forget talk radio!
Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too. Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc. Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow. My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox). Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee. If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows. Levin has the same. Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).
Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!
I hope to see future posts from you re this. You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons. MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.
Enjoy!
Even our conservative talk radio sm
station focused on how "hot" Sarah Palin was, not her brains. How they'd like to see her naked, in a bikini, etc, etc. As for being governor, the state of Alaska ranks 47th in population, not exactly New York or Massachusetts or you name it. As for bashing her because she is "pretty", I'll take brains over beauty any day. Pretty shallow to back someone because they're "pretty" or "hot." The day Sarah Palin sets foot in the white house, is the day I move to Canada or maybe I'll move to Alaska!
And lastly, as for me typing my little black keys, look who is calling the kettle black. When was the last time you ran for governor? 
Interesting Insight into Talk Radio
I confess I am fascinated by the inner workings of the things that influence public opinion, be it media, politics, or religion. I found this article fascinating.
Some crazy loon on talk radio today
said that Bush's grandfather had Kennedy assasinated. Do you believe that?
Nobody wants to listen to liberal talk radio..look at bankrupt Air America. No demand for it...
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Joe the plumber was a plant! Talk radio knew about him BEFORE he asked Obama a question
He is related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal that McCain was involved in.
the death of Wall Street is the death of the USA...you really want that????? nm
you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe
They have a lot of influence
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You go girl! Don't let anyone influence
you about your vote. You go ahead and vote your conscience and feel good about yourself! This election is too important for you not to vote at all. My mother lived and died and never voted because she felt she didn't have the right because she was a woman. Can you imagine? You go vote while we all still have that privilege!
Islamic influence in prisons is not a new
This has been going on for quite some time. Unfortunately, what is taught in prison isn't "mainstream" Islam, but a corruption of it that really amounts to nothing more than criminal enterprise cloaked in the guise of religious activity. As such, the hands of prison officials are basically tied when it comes to trying to stop it because they would be interfering with a prisoner's "religious freedoms".
He should shut up and not push policy or influence until he gets into office.
He has truly undermined the current sitting president and has been disrespectful to that very office. That much is true.
I wasn't talking about two ways about anything. You must be talking about someone else.
just like a right-wing wing-ding.....
to start name-calling, hmmph
Here's a real nice conservative statement. How to make friends and influence people.
"Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson suggested on-air Monday, Aug. 22, 2005, that American operatives assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to stop his country from becoming "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."
You C*nt Say That On Radio!
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
Believe it or not, I don't own a radio (nm)
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You can also check out NPR on the radio....
conservative they ARE NOT.
Okay, heard from radio
about american solutions.com so one can vote on this energy bill, but I keep getting link broken. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
Ron Paul radio interview
For those of you in the listening area, Ron Paul is being interviewed on NPR. I am in New England and it is on now. But if you miss it, you can log onto NPR on the web and play it back at your leisure. :o)
today on radio, they were discussing
his own party is in controversy over flip-flops. disgusted almost with the whole lot of them. someone said government growth has been 60% in the last few years. Don't know about that, but upsetting story on medicare losing millions by having doctor's available info on line which, of course, has been abused. Some of these guys have been dead for years and so people have been using their id's and #'s to scam/order wheelchairs. oh well, we'll always have more taxpayers, right? The name of the game is money, and they are all to blame for this energy problem, alternative methods have been squelched for almost 80 years. We could very quickly find ourselves in a fine pickle if they shut off the tap over there and I don't put it past them. After all, we have already made them filthy rich, they won't need us anymore, especially with our losing economy. Indonesia and Viet Nam won't even accept american money. or so I heard a couple of weeks ago, not like I tried to spend any money anywhere! I strongly feel the need to become self-sufficient and I mean that on an individual level as well, think 1800's. our people are much too busy fingerpointing to get anything accomplished and I am sick of all the bickering and wastefulness. I really feel for the ones to come after us.
I am hearing on the radio that it was her husband, not she...
who was the member and it was several years ago. The jury is out on that one.
Obama went to the dailykos convention and spoke to them. Does that mean he approves of the smarm on that website?
Wright said God dam* America. Obama was in his pews for 20 years. Are we to attribute that comment to Obama?
You can't have it both ways.
do you ever listen to Glen on the radio as well?
Ed's a good guy (though he's awkward on TV and better on the radio).
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I agree. I only heard recaps on the radio the next day.
However, I agree with you Lurker. At first I didn't though. I was like *all that wasn't necessary* and when my husband brought up the funeral I told him and his reply was the Kings were political and those were things Coretta believed in, so why should people sugar coat things because of the guests. It was after all HER funeral, not either of the BUSHES.
I heard on the radio the same kind of thing...
asked people about Obama and put Palin as his VP and vice versa with McCain and Biden. People actually said that they thought the Obama/Palin ticket was great and didn't like the McCain/Biden ticket! Unreal, and these people are allowed to vote? Another reporter asked about the policies of each candidate, but switched them around and out of 10 people, 9 thought Obama would get their vote because he believed like they did (of course they didn't know they were actually siding with McCain). It's a sorry time in America when the homeless on the park bench have a vote that is more coveted than our military's vote. Freedom is right and those who are fighting right now are defending those on this board's right to bash them and their service.
I did hear about the flyers on the radio though.. that is true (sm)
Our local radio & TV stations were trying to make sure everyone knew that was a scan. You can't blame republicants for that though...was probably just a couple of people with a hair-brained idea.
nope. Never listened to Rush. No radio.
Hubby listens to him all the time.
BTW, used to watch Glen Beck all the time. Can't wait until he's on Fox January 19th. He was on O'Reilly last night and I did watch, but he was pretty toned down, probably cause it was Bill's show.
He's from about 35 miles from here; been listening to him on radio for years.
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I heard it to on the radio, the entire dialogue. He has been taken totally
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My husband heard this is a definite yesterday on the radio (nm)
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I heard and interesting interview on the radio today...
While everyone is so wrapped up in Colin Powell supporting Obama, did anyone take note that Lieberman supports McCain?
Yeah, we need conservative radio shows to give any
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Listen/Request Alan Colmes radio show in your area.
See link.
yep....and tax everyone to death
for it like the Europeans do. We are over taxed enough as it is, and to me over taxation is slavery. I don't expect anyone to be forced to take care of my medical bills, so why do you think I should be forced to take care of yours? I voluntarily tithe to my church...nobody beats me over the head every Sunday and makes me do it. I do it out of a spirit of giving. God doesn't make me do it, so why should the government?
One reason drug prices are so high in America is because of litigation. People want drugs here, but if there's an ill side effect or someone falls over dead....let the suing begin!!! We are a country of wusses and victims, and then we wonder why we pay so much at the counter, because all the costs of lawyers and endless studies just to try and keep litigation at bay
If we would get over our selfish wussification then life would be so much more bearable for all. We would take care of our sick and elderly like God directed us to do in the Bible and our world would be a much better place, but I don't see selfishness ending anytime soon not as long as people think someone else should go to work for them when they are capable working and then pay their medical bills to boot.
sick to death
And..in the midst of all this chaos, when IMHO, no one should feel like partying, vacationing..we should be worrying and doing whatever we can..but in the midst..where is Condoleezza? Why, on a two day vacation in NYC, taking in Spamalot, the broadway show..chuckling it up, while New Orleans burns and people die. A witness said people were shocked to see her enjoying herself at the theatre when parts of her country are descending into madness. Then she went to Ferragammo (spell?) and was buying shoes for a few thousand dollars. Someone walked up to her and started telling her off, about how could she party when America is in such pain. She called security over and had the woman evicted..such is how OUR SERVANTS act, like they are king and queen. I mean, come on, even if you couldnt care less about what is going down, show a little respect and stay home until this is under control..FEMA should have gotten planes and aid out the very next morning to the gulf region, Bush knew this was gonna be a bad storm..he could have had the planes loaded up and waiting for the next morning after the storm..but, as is usual with this administration, Bush and his cohorts wait until chaos, as in Iraq, and then he acts but then it is too late. Well, the other day I posted how one day the masses will have their backs up against the wall and American politicians will have to create programs and help them..I see a minor version of what I was posting about..and, like that song says..*when you aint got nothing, you got nothing to lose*. This is an extremely dire situation..If the people in the gulf region dont calm down and get things under control on their own, the police and other authorities will not be able to, unless they shoot them all..and that will put blood on their hands and Bush's hands for not acting fast enough to show these poor people, that the govt cares..I am sick to my stomach over the evolving situation.Bush's approval is at 46%, just wait it will be even lower next time a poll is taken..
The Death of Outrage.
Ever read it? Great book. Bill Bennett wrote it. It's very applicable to certain people. You might not like it. Well, anyway, what Bennett was doing (and he explained it) is what you would do in a hypothetical philosophical discussion.
I'll use a silly example: Suppose we were in the Star Wars galaxy, both former senators, sitting at a posh club on Coroscant drinking jin-jin juice. You happened to remark to me, You know, I hear it has been said in the Outer Rim that if we killed all the Jedi babies, there would be less mind control instances. Now, some ditz from the Tatooine Times-Picayune records us secretly and has it on MSNBCABCCBSNBCFOX channel on the Galactic Network. Except, they only playback this part,if we killed all the Jedi babies, there would be less mind control instances. Would you still say it was stupid, ill-conceived of yourself to say that? Bennett was alluding, of course, to Freakanomics, and if you don't know what that is, then you have no business even discussing this subject at all. But if you DID know what that was, and you were of a mind to say, he should have mentioned Freakanomics often during the conversation, then I would ask you this. Do you constantly say over and over in each sentence in a conversation any reference you are alluding to in a discussion? Oh, I know how very bad many here want to portray Bill as a racist. But he isn't. Not that the truth will matter one iota to you. Remember that stupid remark your HERO Bill Maher made on his show that got him yanked off the air? Remember, he called Clinton a coward and the terrorists heroes. He wasn't really serious, he was just kind of throwing it out there, but GOSH OH GOLLY people took him seriously and POOF he was gone. He's back, which is unfortunate, but I know how much you like him. See, sometimes people say things in ways you really have to dig for the meaning. I will give you that Bennett could have said what he said differently. Hyperbole is wasted on people with concrete thinking (all Republicans are rich, The Democrats are the party of the poor). What I WON'T GIVE YOU is that Bennett is a racist. Because he isn't.
So are you against the death penalty? sm
B/c I agree that only in rare cases should the death penalty be used, i.e., mass murderers and serial killers, people who harm children, etc.
But yes, I was rationalizing. I would expect that in a state where the death penalty is legal the governer must rationalize when making decisions regarding clemancy (sp).
I am against the death penalty. SM
I didn't use to be, but I am against it now. I do know that certain kinds of criminals, rapists, child molesters, have a high rate of recidivism. They just cannot be rehabilitated. I think they should be locked away and never let out.
*Death squad?*???
What have you and your professor friend been smoking?! Where do you think we learned the word jihad oh scholarly one? We learned it from the terrorists. Perhaps you and your professor friend should hold classes for THEM so that THEY understand what jihad really means. As far as stereotypes...you can talk until you are blue in the face. When Muslims stand up and start denouncing what is being done in the name of Islam and are instrumental in trying to stop it, I will be much more interested in what they have to say. And if 5 foot tall red headed Texans start flying planes into buildings and blowing people up in the name of the 5 foot red headed texas gods, you can darn well bet I will be suspicious of 5 foot red headed Texans! Sheesh. You are UNBELIEVABLE.
Sick to death of it all.......
Is anyone else just really tired of this election and all the crap that goes along with it? I'm so sick and tired of political parties. I'm tired of the families of the candidates being targets. I'm tired of the mud flinging. I think I'm going to take a break from all the political hoopla.
I am not for the death penalty
I think the only way a person should die is when it is their time, not by any other person's decision. I do think the jails/prisons these days give way too many perks though.
Death penalty
I think when someone commits a henious crime, such as raping and killing a child, they have forfeited their right to life. That's just my opinion.
Exactly right. Same with the death penalty.
What is most horrendous to me is that one might kill an innocent human being.
Is anyone else sick to death of
both pubs and crats. They both lie. They both try to pull quick ones by pointing out what the other party did so they can do something while no one is paying attention. Our government as a whole makes me sick. I'm truly sick and tired of hearing the bickering back and forth by the two parties. I truly feel like neither party gives a rat's behind about us. They are all about doing what they want.
SPARE ME TO DEATH!! This has NOTHING
This problem has been around a LONG, LONG time - quit trying to blame Obama for THAT too!
UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE....
The wish of death posts happened
however, the moderator deleted them very quickly. Conservatives are being attacked with no mercy on the C-board. These people post nothing that has to do with the subject matter posted but go straight for the jugular. You are incorrect when you say it isn't personal, because it is extremely personal at times. One long term poster was stalked and threatened by e-mail back when posting an e-mail link was an option. I think you are as free as anyone to post your feelings and beliefs on any board, but when those posts become personally hateful, threatening, or wishing someone death or extreme ill will then that poster be it conservative or liberal needs to go. Recently, the most hateful posts have happened on the C-board. The moderator has said over and over "no bashing", but they still continue to do it. What do you expect the moderator/administrator to do?
Not that I wish you to leave, but If you don't feel comfortable posting here you certainly don't have to stay. There might be a forum where you would feel more comfortable and better fits your posting style. Again, this is a privately owned board, and the administrator is free to discern anyway he/she wants. However, I think the administrator would agree EVERYONE needs to play by the rules.
Iraqi death toll....sm
See link for full article below.
*According to the graph, Iraqi civilians and security forces were killed and wounded by insurgents at a rate of about 26 a day early in 2004, and at a rate of about 40 a day later that year. The rate increased in 2005 to about 51 a day, and by the end of August had jumped to about 63 a day.
Extrapolating the daily averages over the months from Jan. 1, 2004, to Sept. 16 of this year results in a total of 25,902 Iraqi civilians and security forces killed and wounded by insurgents.*
JFK speech 10 days before his death. sm
Please take 5 minutes to listen to this. It gave me chills. He truly was a visionary and what a great loss to America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEqtaWpKEU&search=JFK%20on%20Secret..
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