Cyndiee, please read Matthew 28:18-20
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-01
In Reply to: If we as Christians believe we have the truth, and that following Christ is the true way......sm - Cyndiee
That is the Great Comission. That is the command of Jesus to ALL of his followers. The only reason I am telling you this is because you ARE a Christian (which I rejoice in, by the way).
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Cyndiee, I think you need to read your own
post to God on the Gab board. You're not helping the division with comments like this.
cyndiee obviously is the ultimate judge of any post here...all bow to cyndiee...
*****8
Matthew 6:5-6
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Matthew 7:13?
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat
Well, you should review Matthew 7
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
have u never heard of Matthew Sheperd??
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Cyndiee, why can't you just say
Oh, now I see. I never thought of it that way. What difference does it make about whether or not people should be eating at McDonald's??!. Let's stay on point.
For another example, if you raise the minimum wage, that shampoo that you have to put off buying (and I applaud your use of a budget - more people need to practice self-restraint) will now go up in price because the people who stock the shelves where you buy that shampoo have now had a raise and that money has to come from somewhere. The increased payroll cost will drive up prices everywhere.
I think your earlier point about cracking down on welfare fraud is a great idea and I have been saying that myself for a number of years.
To Cyndiee:
Wow! I can surely relate to you! I was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis three years ago and was hospitalized nine times for pancreatitis (caused by CF) since then. I was just discharged from my TENTH hospitalization after having a very mild stroke last week.
I am prescribed a Duragesic patch (which costs almost $700 a month), other painkillers, and an array of other medications to treat associated problems with CF. I obviously can't afford my medication. (Unlike you, though, I did apply for SSDI when I realized that I just can't produce as I used to be able to do. This is after working 40 consecutive years and paying into the system. Like most applicants, I was denied and am awaiting a hearing which probably won't happen for another year or so.) I can certainly relate to the difficulty in paying for medications, and I'm writing this post to you to inquire if you ever looked into the patient assistance programs offered by the manufacturer of the drug.
Right now, I am receiving my Duragesic and Lopid for free from the manufacturer. After my most recent hospitalization, I've also been prescribed Plavix ($160 at Walmart) and Lipitor ($130 at Walmart).
Since I've already been approved by Pfizer (their "Connection to Care" program) for the Lopid, I am also automatically eligible to receive other products they manufacture (such as Xanax and the Lipitor) for free, as well.
It is very easy to apply, and it is based upon your income. The income guidelines are very liberal, and if you don't qualify for free medication, you may very well qualify for the medication at a very reduced cost.
I found all of this on the internet by simply Googling to find the manufacturer of the drug and then seeing if they have a patient assistance program.
If it wasn't for these programs, I don't know how I would deal with my medical problems. I have lived a pretty healthy life, so I can't complain even a little at being diagnosed with this horrible disease, especially when I consider how many babies and small children struggle with CF.
As far as the stroke, I THINK I'm supposed to have a CT scan next Wednesday (the 11th), and I have an appointment with my doc on the 18th of March. (I just discovered the note about the CT scan and don't recall them talking to me about it before I was discharged, plus I had a CT scan when in the hospital, so I'm just not sure; I guess I'll have to call. Guess my brain just isn't working -- not really anything new. LOL)
Anyway, if you're having difficulty paying for your meds and don't have prescription drug insurance, PLEASE look into this option. I can't begin to express how thankful I am that they exist and that they make applying so easy.
My best wishes to you!!
BraVO, Cyndiee
The rest of you Christians, listen up & learn something.
They want it both ways, Cyndiee.
They don't want the lowest-paid workers to make a decent living wage, and they don't want social services to assist these people either. Their solution to the economic crisis is to have the government pay off their mortgage, so they can buy a big-screen television for their bedroom and put a new deck in the backyard. They talk about McDonald's but, in actuality, they are more like Burger King...they want it their way!
You are SO WRONG about Cyndiee
Just because you chose to accuse her of being such and such a way doesn't make it a fact.
Cyndiee is one of the most level-headed, INTELLIGENT posters on this board.
You, on the other hand, just seem to want to pick on her and call her names. She has been on this board a long, long time and some johnny-come-lately troll is not going to change who she is just by stating some misconstrued personal opinion.
You know nothing about this person you are slinging mud at.
Cyndiee, I am sorry, you are correct, we
do not know that Mr. Obama was ever addicted to the substance. He only admitted to having used it. We do not know for how long, how often, or even if maybe he still uses from time to time.
As I read back over some articles, most read as, like you say, he was young. And of course, like all of us, we do stupid things in our youth. This makes me even more angry! I was upset with the issue about Michael Phelps and this certainly doesn't help! He was chastised because he was someone special for our youth to look up to. Is this not a double standard?
Anyway, I certainly did not mean to be slanderous, nor did I mean to change the subject. I do think Rush paid his price for his addiction, as have members of my own family. He is right about 1 thing, the pubs need a candidate!
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
Cyndiee, you hang in there girl, I am
beginning to enjoy your posts. You are really sounding like a real AMERICAN GIRL! Pooey on this hate between the dems and pubs. I had a boss one time that I just could barely tolerate and had to sit right next to him every day. But, I respected his position of leadership. Mr. Bush is no longer our president, and I also respected his position of leadership as I do Mr. Obamas. That is not to say I agree with either of their policies or beliefs. As long as our country is divided by such bitterness and hate for each other just because one is a dem and one is a pub, we will never heal. We have to remember that we are ALL AMERICANS!
And just remember, everyone may not have been effected by this economy yet, but I truly believe they will feel it. I certainly would not be bragging about great everything is right now! I have grandchildren in college and, due to the market crash, we don't have near as much to worry about leaving to children and grandchildren!!
O.k..Cyndiee, 'grow a heart', will you?..sm
I am an Obama fan.
I'll miss you Cyndiee!
As one of the most thoughtful, intelligent, nonpartisan posters on this board. It is a shame that someone who is obviously unhappy in their own lives has decided to make your their target. Believe me, I feel for you. This happened to me a while back on a different board and it was very unpleasant.
I have enjoyed reading your posts and agree with you 99.9% of the time. You are a very warm, witty, insightful person and I will miss reading your posts.
What a shame that the darn trolls are spoiling this board for all of us. I have a feeling they are foreign MTs or management, trying to create divisions.
Take care of yourself and your family and when you feel strong enough, I look forward to seeing you back here. You will be sadly missed.
I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)
Maybe you should just take a break instead. I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.
I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn.
Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold. If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.
I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.
I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows? Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings.
Maybe you just need a break. I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon. Take care. 
I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)
Maybe you should just take a break instead. I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.
I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn.
Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold. If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.
I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.
I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows? Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings. Bashing each other on a personal level, however, will never lead to anything that's good.
Maybe you just need a break. I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon. Take care.
I enjoy reading your posts, Cyndiee (sm)
All the juvenile name calling happens when they don't have an intelligent answer to give. Those comments fail or succeed on their own merit. Usually, not much merit given to kindergarten tantrums.
Aacks Cyndiee - I guess I should have been more specific
in my message because I've read a lot of your posts and I agree with you most of the time.
There are however other people who don't watch a variety and only listen to the words of Olberman and Matthews and don't even listen to O'Reilly or Limbaugh but put them down. Those are whom I was talking about.
You have always presented yourself very well versed in a lot of different topics and sometimes I wish I could articulate myself as well.
This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.
I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.
So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
sorry, should read I did not read post that way.
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All you have to do is read up on Marxism, read up on...
black liberation theology, and look at what Obama is proposing. All of it a matter of public record, most of it from his own mouth. Your denial of it does not change the facts. If you support socialism, vote for him. Certainly your right. You are already wanting to squelch any kind of dissent...what's up with that? If you seriously consider calling someone a socialist a smear, you really need to read up on your candidate. I did not post a smear, I posted a fact. Redistribution of wealth is socialist and he already said he was going to do it...I heard him say it and it is now a campaign commercial. Sigh.
Some on this board can only read what they want to read (nm)
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READ THE ARTICLE-READ OTHER
READERS COMMENTS!!!
Nan please read what I have to say
I've read your latest posts. You fit the decription of a troll at times, but I don't really care about that. DOesn't matter. What I do notice is that you incite other posters with calculated insults, condescension and twisted and sometimes cruel logic. Then when the object of your insults becomes angry and lashes back you pretend to be an unfairly accused innocent and the object of someone else's crazy, uncalled-for rage.
This is compatible with borderline personality disorder. My mother had it, a brother-in-law battles it and I am all too familiar with it.
I did read it.
Not posting the whole article puts the quote out of context. It's not really a way to do things on a chat forum, but then maybe you don't post in a lot of other forums. Those I frequent always post the whole article or at least a link. It would give you a lot more credibility. Take it for what it's worth.
Read this...
Pandora's Box
September 22, 2005
By Ken Sanders
You have to hand it to the Bush administration. No matter how bad things might be in Iraq, and no matter how dim the prospects are for Iraq's future, Bush & Co. still manage to look the public straight in the eye, smirk, and insist that the decision to invade Iraq was a good one. Call them determined, even stubborn. Call them dishonest, perhaps delusional. Regardless, the fact is that by invading Iraq, the Bush administration opened a Pandora's Box with global consequences.
Bush and his apologists have frequently promised that the invasion of Iraq will spread democracy and stability throughout the entire Middle East. That naive declaration could not be farther from the truth. Not only is Iraq itself in the clutches of a civil war, the U.S.-led invasion threatens to destabilize the whole of the Middle East, if not the world. It may have irrevocably done so already.
By most definitions and standards, Iraq is already in the throes of civil war. Whether defined as an internal conflict resulting in at least 1,000 combat-related fatalities, five percent of which are sustained by government and rebel forces; or as organized violence designed to change the governance of a country; or as a systematic and coordinated sectarian-based conflict; the requirements of civil war have long since been satisfied.
While our television screens are saturated by images of chaos and death in Iraq, the stories beneath the images are even more disturbing. Purely sectarian attacks, largely between Iraq's Sunni and Shiite populations, have been rising dramatically for months. According to Iraqi government statistics, such targeted attacks have doubled over the past twelve months. Police in Iraq are finding scores of bodies littering the streets, bodies of people who were blindfolded or handcuffed, shot or beheaded. The Baghdad morgue is constantly overwhelmed by bodies showing tell-tale signs of torture and gradual, drawn-out, agonizing death.
In Baghdad, Sunni neighborhoods live in fear of Shiite death squads like the Iranian-backed Badr Brigade of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), Iraq's leading Shiite governing coalition. Such death squads operate openly, in full uniform, and with the deliberate ignorance, if not outright sanction, of the Iraqi government. On a single day in August, the bodies of 36 Sunni Arabs were found blindfolded, handcuffed, tortured and executed in a dry riverbed in the Shiite-dominated Wasit province.
At the other end, Shiites face each day burdened by the terror and trauma of being the targets of constant suicide bombings. The army and police recruits killed by suicide bombs are predominantly Shia. In Ramadi, a Sunni stronghold, Shiites are fleeing their homes, driven out by murder and intimidation. On August 17, 43 Shiites were killed by bombings at a bus stop and then at the hospital where the casualties were to be treated.
There are less-violent examples of the deepening rifts between Iraq's Sunnis and Shiites since the U.S.-led invasion. By some estimates, nearly half of the weddings performed in Baghdad before the invasion were of mixed Sunni/Shiite couples. Since the invasion and its resulting instability and strife, such mixed weddings are all but extinct. This new-found reluctance of Sunnis and Shiites to marry each other is just another indication of the increasing isolation and animosity between the two populations.
The recently finalized Iraqi constitution does little to bridge Iraq's growing sectarian divides. The culmination of sectarian feuds passing for political debates, Iraq's constitution only ratifies the sectarian divisions of the nation. In the north are the Kurds who long ago abandoned their Iraqi identity, refusing to even fly the Iraqi flag. In the south is a burgeoning Shiite Islamic state, patterned after and influenced by Iran. Both groups have divvied up Iraq's oil reserves amongst themselves. Left in the nation's oil-free center are the Sunni Arabs, dismissed as obstructionist by the Kurds and Shiites. So unconcerned are the Kurds and Shiites with a unified Iraq that they both maintain their own large and heavily-armed militias.
Of course, the constitution still has to be ratified. If it is ratified, it will likely be by a Shiite/Kurdish minority, effectively maintaining the status quo that motivates, in part, the Sunni-led insurgency. If, on the other hand, the constitution is defeated, there's little reason not to believe that the three major factions in Iraq won't resort to forcibly taking what they want. Either way, in the words of one Iraqi civilian, God help us.
The discord in Iraq is not limited to fighting between Shiites and Sunnis. In Basra, for instance, rival Shiite militia groups constantly fight each other. The notorious Badr Brigade, backed by SCIRI, have repeatedly clashed with dissident cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi militia. The Badr Brigade frequently works in conjunction with Basra police and are suspected of recently kidnapping and killing two journalists. Suspecting that the Basra police have been infiltrated by both the Badr and Mehdi militias, the British military sent in two undercover operatives to make arrests. The British operatives were themselves arrested by the Basra police. When the British went to liberate their men, they found themselves exchanging fire with the Basra police, their heretofore allies, and smashing through the prison walls with armored vehicles.
Iraqis aren't merely growing increasingly alienated from each other, as well as progressively opposed to coalition forces. Iraq's estrangement from the rest of the Middle East and the Arab world is widening as well. Seen more and more as a proxy of the Iranian government, the Shiite/Kurd dominated Iraq finds itself at odds with the Sunni-dominated Middle East. For instance, since the U.S.-led invasion, not a single Middle East nation has sent an ambassador to Baghdad. And, despite promises to do so, the Arab League (of which Iraq was a founder) has yet to open a Baghdad office.
There are, clearly, many reasons other than sectarianism for Iraq's estrangement from the Middle East and Arab nations, security being the foremost. However, Iraqi diplomacy, or lack thereof, is also to blame. From chiding Qatar for sending aid to Katrina victims but not to Iraq, to arguing with Kuwait over border issues, to blaming Syria for the insurgency, Iraq's fledgling government seems to have taken diplomacy lessons from the Bush administration. In fact, with the exception of Iran, Iraq has butted heads recently with nearly every Middle East nation.
Iraq's constitution hasn't won it any friends in the Arab world, either. For instance, Iraq drew strong condemnation from the Arab world when a draft of its constitution read that just its Arab people are part of the Arab nation. Only after the outcry from the Arab League and numerous Arab nations, did Iraq change its constitution's offending language. (The argument by Bush's apologists that the Iraqi constitution's alleged enshrinement of democratic principles threatens neighboring countries is unconvincing. Syria and Egypt both have constitutions that guarantee political and individual freedoms. In practice, however, such guarantees have proven meaningless. Why, then, should they feel threatened?)
Iraq's varied relationships with Middle Eastern nations will be immeasurably significant should Iraq descend further into civil war. For example, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Jordan would most likely come to the support of Iraq's Sunnis. (There are already signs that the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq has impacted Saudi Arabia's Sunni population. According to a recent study, the invasion of Iraq has radicalized previously non-militant Saudis, sickened by the occupation of an Arab nation by non-Arabs.) Iran would only increase its already staunch support for Iraq's Shiites. Turkey would also likely be drawn in, hoping to prevent any Kurdish success in Iraq from spilling across its border. Moreover, Iraq's violent Sunni-Shiite discord could easily spark similar strife in Middle East countries like Bahrain, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.
In such a worst-case scenario, Iraq's instability would spread and infect an already unstable region. If the Gulf region were to further destabilize, so too would the global economy as oil prices would skyrocket, plunging the U.S. and so many others into recession.
Put another way, Bush's illegal, ill-conceived, short-sighted, and naive venture in Iraq could reasonably result in total chaos in not just Iraq and the Middle East, but the world over.
A Pandora's Box, if there ever was one.
Sorry, but can you read?
pizza. Don't you think they've thought of moving? It isn't always practical to simply uproot. In this case, there is an elderly family member and children. Again, from the throne passing judgement.
This makes no sense: I'm talking about a certain segment of our society who refuse to learn, refuse to work, and who YOU wish to bring up to an equal place as the rest of society who works hard and earns what they have. Huh? You still missed the point...good grief.
I read that. And then MT goes on
to criticize you for suggesting that posters visit eXtremely Political and is aghast at the post that calls for shooting someone who doesn't agree...... she just FAILS to mention that it's a NEOCON who wants to shoot LIBERALS!!!
This is what she wrote:
Sorry, had to answer this one. There have a Whine to Management option. That is PERFECT for gt. Talking about shooting other posters, atheism and porno. Yeah, that's a great place alright. And now they have THE gt as a member. Does it get any better than that. Although, my thoughts are they won't suffer her long. Those people are pirrhanas.
Well, if that ain't the pirrhana calling the shark hungry!
Perhaps you need to read
No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor... otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief... All men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain their opinions in matters of religion, and... the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. --Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers 2:546
Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry. --Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:301, Papers 2:545
We have no right to prejudice another in his civil enjoyments because he is of another church. --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:546
I am for freedom of religion, and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendency of one sect over another. --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78
Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle. --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813.
I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others. --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Dowse, 1803. ME 10:378
Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to God alone. I inquire after no man's, and trouble none with mine. --Thomas Jefferson to Miles King, 1814. ME 14:198
and many more: http://www.theology.edu/journal/volume2/ushistor.htm
You need to read that again.
Yes, it is US law, according to the Constitution.
The United States signed the UN Charter -- which is a treaty. Let me repeat:
Article VI of the U.S. Constitution makes treaties into which the U.S. has entered the supreme Law of the Land.
In other words, we made a treaty with a bunch of other countries to abide by certain rules, including the use of force. Since we entered into this treaty with the UN, that makes it the supreme Law of the Land -- US Law.
Sure, you can say, So what? Nobody's going to take us to court. We can do anything we want. But if we as a country aren't going to respect our agreements with other countries and our own laws, why should anybody else? Nobody is above the law, right?
By the way, I think we were fully justified in invading Afghanistan.
I have read this...
So what. At one point you say he was involved with AIM and had a lackey break someone's arm. Now you are providing us with an article that disavows any connection with AIM at all. Which is it? Could it be that some folks who were involved with AIM in the late 60s early 70s are no longer involved, or are dead or have had major disagreements along the way about what should be done. Banks, Russell Means and Peltier don't even speak to each other any more. That is sad, in my opinion. Trudell, on the other hand, is still around. (I had the pleasure of meeting him last Saturday in Hollywood Florida at the Native American Music Awards) and still fights the good fight although his wife and children were burned to death in an FBI arson. There is a video, called simply Trudell. It has aired on PBS stations. It is also available from Trudell's web site. It you get a chance, see it. There is so much information out there that no one seems to care much about as regards the American Indian from Columbus to today. The history is always written by the victor and the American Indian history is distorted.
You can read whatever you want...
into what people say. Some are not very tactful and some, like our president, just can't get a syntax together to save their souls. I still think the sentiment was not that these Americans do not want democracy. I still think they thought we **deserved** to be surprised because we have ignored Middle East history, the British colonization, the politics, the culture, the nature of Islam when, in reality, bearing in mind our support for Israel and our dismissal of the Arab states, it should not have been a surprise. This has been brewing for quite some time. That is not the same thing. I really don't know what those 2 had in their hearts but I truly believe that one saying the US has treated the Arab states badly in the past does not make one a **terrorist** or a communist or a democracy hater. These people attempt to see all sides of things, in all colors, not just black and white. Those are the people who will ultimately garner peace if it is at all possible. It will not come at the barrel of a gun, no matter what has happened in the past.
Yep, I know, I can read. NM
Well, I don't read the
leftist blogs or any other blogs for that matter, too much like talk radio. I also don't need to plagerize anything; I can think for myself, thank you very much.
I have read this one over and over...s/m
What has happened in this country over the years? Why the almost blind acceptance of things, almost anything that is done? Where are the idealistic youth? Their future is at stake, so many, many issues, yet, where are they? Why the banket of almost deafening silence? It scares me.
have you read...
anything written by Michelle Obama? she is truly a racist. Your remarks about her scare me. Make sure you are truly informed. John McCain is a down-to-earth person who would do well in office, but the reality is no president can make the changes outlined above. It takes all the members of the house and senate to begin to make change, not just one man.
Where can we read about this? TIA - nm
can't read and can't
recognize inappropriate behavior in temprament. Oy.
Read it before....
....Opinion section can state anything they want to, and so can you.
So can I.
Seems to me, though, are those three tiny words by Gov. Palin, that are given very little credence here:
"Hold me accountable."
I kinda have the feeling that she doesn't have much to hide here, having read other parts of this story before too.
So bring it on.
I have the feeling that Gov. Palin will come out on top.
And you believe everything you read on the net?
XO
Have you read it? nm
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We both must have read something different....sm
Quotes from the first article:
Charity's Political Divide
Republicans give a bigger share of their incomes to charity, says a prominent economist
In Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism (Basic Books), Arthur C. Brooks finds that religious conservatives are far more charitable than secular liberals, and that those who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others.
Mr. Brooks agreed that he needed to tackle politics. He writes that households headed by a conservative give roughly 30 percent more to charity each year than households headed by a liberal, despite the fact that the liberal families on average earn slightly more.
Most of the difference in giving among conservatives and liberals gets back to religion. Religious liberals give nearly as much as religious conservatives, Mr. Brooks found. And secular conservatives are even less generous than secular liberals.
Well if you read, why do we have to? nm
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Then you don't read enough.
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Should read 8 above - nm
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when I read the first one
I was flying to Arizona to visit my daughter. In the book the setting is on an airplane (one of the main characters is the pilot). Suddenly half the people on the plane are gone and all that is left is a little pile of their clothing on the seat when they had been sitting before being raptured. I had to take a quick look around to make sure all the passengers were still on board! But do try to read at least some of it. I think there are now like 10 books in the series but within the first couple you will know when I am talking about. I believe they have a web site and I know the first 2 were made into movies.
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