Cyndiee, I am sorry, you are correct, we
Posted By: MTfromLA on 2009-03-02
In Reply to: Can I put a more common perspectiveon this?.....sm - Cyndiee
do not know that Mr. Obama was ever addicted to the substance. He only admitted to having used it. We do not know for how long, how often, or even if maybe he still uses from time to time.
As I read back over some articles, most read as, like you say, he was young. And of course, like all of us, we do stupid things in our youth. This makes me even more angry! I was upset with the issue about Michael Phelps and this certainly doesn't help! He was chastised because he was someone special for our youth to look up to. Is this not a double standard?
Anyway, I certainly did not mean to be slanderous, nor did I mean to change the subject. I do think Rush paid his price for his addiction, as have members of my own family. He is right about 1 thing, the pubs need a candidate!
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cyndiee obviously is the ultimate judge of any post here...all bow to cyndiee...
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Cyndiee, why can't you just say
Oh, now I see. I never thought of it that way. What difference does it make about whether or not people should be eating at McDonald's??!. Let's stay on point.
For another example, if you raise the minimum wage, that shampoo that you have to put off buying (and I applaud your use of a budget - more people need to practice self-restraint) will now go up in price because the people who stock the shelves where you buy that shampoo have now had a raise and that money has to come from somewhere. The increased payroll cost will drive up prices everywhere.
I think your earlier point about cracking down on welfare fraud is a great idea and I have been saying that myself for a number of years.
To Cyndiee:
Wow! I can surely relate to you! I was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis three years ago and was hospitalized nine times for pancreatitis (caused by CF) since then. I was just discharged from my TENTH hospitalization after having a very mild stroke last week.
I am prescribed a Duragesic patch (which costs almost $700 a month), other painkillers, and an array of other medications to treat associated problems with CF. I obviously can't afford my medication. (Unlike you, though, I did apply for SSDI when I realized that I just can't produce as I used to be able to do. This is after working 40 consecutive years and paying into the system. Like most applicants, I was denied and am awaiting a hearing which probably won't happen for another year or so.) I can certainly relate to the difficulty in paying for medications, and I'm writing this post to you to inquire if you ever looked into the patient assistance programs offered by the manufacturer of the drug.
Right now, I am receiving my Duragesic and Lopid for free from the manufacturer. After my most recent hospitalization, I've also been prescribed Plavix ($160 at Walmart) and Lipitor ($130 at Walmart).
Since I've already been approved by Pfizer (their "Connection to Care" program) for the Lopid, I am also automatically eligible to receive other products they manufacture (such as Xanax and the Lipitor) for free, as well.
It is very easy to apply, and it is based upon your income. The income guidelines are very liberal, and if you don't qualify for free medication, you may very well qualify for the medication at a very reduced cost.
I found all of this on the internet by simply Googling to find the manufacturer of the drug and then seeing if they have a patient assistance program.
If it wasn't for these programs, I don't know how I would deal with my medical problems. I have lived a pretty healthy life, so I can't complain even a little at being diagnosed with this horrible disease, especially when I consider how many babies and small children struggle with CF.
As far as the stroke, I THINK I'm supposed to have a CT scan next Wednesday (the 11th), and I have an appointment with my doc on the 18th of March. (I just discovered the note about the CT scan and don't recall them talking to me about it before I was discharged, plus I had a CT scan when in the hospital, so I'm just not sure; I guess I'll have to call. Guess my brain just isn't working -- not really anything new. LOL)
Anyway, if you're having difficulty paying for your meds and don't have prescription drug insurance, PLEASE look into this option. I can't begin to express how thankful I am that they exist and that they make applying so easy.
My best wishes to you!!
Cyndiee, I think you need to read your own
post to God on the Gab board. You're not helping the division with comments like this.
BraVO, Cyndiee
The rest of you Christians, listen up & learn something.
They want it both ways, Cyndiee.
They don't want the lowest-paid workers to make a decent living wage, and they don't want social services to assist these people either. Their solution to the economic crisis is to have the government pay off their mortgage, so they can buy a big-screen television for their bedroom and put a new deck in the backyard. They talk about McDonald's but, in actuality, they are more like Burger King...they want it their way!
You are SO WRONG about Cyndiee
Just because you chose to accuse her of being such and such a way doesn't make it a fact.
Cyndiee is one of the most level-headed, INTELLIGENT posters on this board.
You, on the other hand, just seem to want to pick on her and call her names. She has been on this board a long, long time and some johnny-come-lately troll is not going to change who she is just by stating some misconstrued personal opinion.
You know nothing about this person you are slinging mud at.
Cyndiee, please read Matthew 28:18-20
That is the Great Comission. That is the command of Jesus to ALL of his followers. The only reason I am telling you this is because you ARE a Christian (which I rejoice in, by the way).
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
Cyndiee, you hang in there girl, I am
beginning to enjoy your posts. You are really sounding like a real AMERICAN GIRL! Pooey on this hate between the dems and pubs. I had a boss one time that I just could barely tolerate and had to sit right next to him every day. But, I respected his position of leadership. Mr. Bush is no longer our president, and I also respected his position of leadership as I do Mr. Obamas. That is not to say I agree with either of their policies or beliefs. As long as our country is divided by such bitterness and hate for each other just because one is a dem and one is a pub, we will never heal. We have to remember that we are ALL AMERICANS!
And just remember, everyone may not have been effected by this economy yet, but I truly believe they will feel it. I certainly would not be bragging about great everything is right now! I have grandchildren in college and, due to the market crash, we don't have near as much to worry about leaving to children and grandchildren!!
O.k..Cyndiee, 'grow a heart', will you?..sm
I am an Obama fan.
I'll miss you Cyndiee!
As one of the most thoughtful, intelligent, nonpartisan posters on this board. It is a shame that someone who is obviously unhappy in their own lives has decided to make your their target. Believe me, I feel for you. This happened to me a while back on a different board and it was very unpleasant.
I have enjoyed reading your posts and agree with you 99.9% of the time. You are a very warm, witty, insightful person and I will miss reading your posts.
What a shame that the darn trolls are spoiling this board for all of us. I have a feeling they are foreign MTs or management, trying to create divisions.
Take care of yourself and your family and when you feel strong enough, I look forward to seeing you back here. You will be sadly missed.
I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)
Maybe you should just take a break instead. I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.
I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn.
Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold. If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.
I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.
I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows? Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings.
Maybe you just need a break. I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon. Take care. 
I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)
Maybe you should just take a break instead. I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.
I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn.
Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold. If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.
I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.
I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows? Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings. Bashing each other on a personal level, however, will never lead to anything that's good.
Maybe you just need a break. I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon. Take care.
I enjoy reading your posts, Cyndiee (sm)
All the juvenile name calling happens when they don't have an intelligent answer to give. Those comments fail or succeed on their own merit. Usually, not much merit given to kindergarten tantrums.
Aacks Cyndiee - I guess I should have been more specific
in my message because I've read a lot of your posts and I agree with you most of the time.
There are however other people who don't watch a variety and only listen to the words of Olberman and Matthews and don't even listen to O'Reilly or Limbaugh but put them down. Those are whom I was talking about.
You have always presented yourself very well versed in a lot of different topics and sometimes I wish I could articulate myself as well.
You are correct
the thing is we can find common ground with people who we don't always agree with 100%. Blair tends to be more socialistic, but he is unified in the fact that terrorism is the worst threat to our world right now, and we have to stop it at all costs. Social agendas come second to him. Safety is 1st.
You are correct
I'm sure there are some wonderful people in Iran!! You included. It's good that you can the government is scary though. Here are some words from Iranian president AhMADinejad from just yesterday...
Ahmadinejad warned the West that trying to force it to abandon uranium enrichment would cause an everlasting hatred in the hearts of Iranians.
From your comments it sounds as if this a false statement since you love America. You of all people I'm sure appreciates America!!
Yes, of course you are correct
However, my post topic was literally just a couple posts below yours and it seemed unlikely that you would have not noticed the duplication in monikers. This board may indeed be available world-wide, however, there is a fairly small group of folks who routinely post.
My point was simply that your posting may have erroneously led folks to believe that I was posting both pro and anti-liberal messages within a few posts of each other. That would be rather confusing to say the least and it would be thoughtless to confuse and/or mislead anyone who might be using this board, whether in the U.S. or outside of the U.S.
You are correct about the $40K....
that is the SCHIP program as it has been over the past 10 years (although income levels have gone up some from the start of it). The expansion of the program was to include the $80K families. This bill was about expansion of the program. Letting the program continue as it was was not the issue. The expansion was the issue. Bush would not have vetoed it if they had not sought to expand it that much. They knew he would veto it if they left that in, and they wanted him to veto it to score political points. That I do not understand. Yes, some Republicans voted for it too, also for political reasons, so if the fallout was really bad they could come back and say "Oh i voted FOR it." Kinda like the Iraq war resolution...lots of Dems voted for it...yada yada.
I want to correct myself on the above...
I was wrong about the poverty level. The figure quoted for a family of four at 300% of the poverty line is $62,000 so he was close on that. However, the bill does not state those people over that level will not get on it. It says the matching rate from the feds might not be available. Then we have the EXCEPTION...the waiver. That opens the door for New York and every other state who wishes to, to expand the program as high as they want to go. That is what Bush was talking about. The waiver makes it possible, and not only possible, probable.
Just wanted to be sure my facts were correct.
Thanks.
Yes you are 100% correct!!!
By george you are right!!! EVERY SINGLE POSTER ON THIS BOARD IS ME!!!!!! Except for Observer, of course, and a few old American Girl postings! I admit it, I am guilty, you have caught me. I have authored every single post you read on here. It keeps me very very busy but it's worth it!!!
There I have "fessed up and I feel sooooooooo much better. Whew! Thank you Observer for helping me to do the right thing.
You are correct - however, you were the one...
Yes, you are correct, a lot of people don't give middle names second thoughts, and certainly there is nothing to worry about when mentioning his name in full, but when you smear it like its a dirty word, I call that a dirty shame. I was simply stating why don't you say Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton or John Sydney McCain, no you don't, therefore it seems when people don't treat one candidate equal to the other they are up to something. I have no problem with his middle name. I think its a beautiful name. I also think Sydney is a beautiful name.. Second just because someone posts a long post does not mean they copy from other articles. I happened to write the post myself, however, if you would like a much longer one there are plenty that I can copy and paste from - just let me know....happy to oblige. :-)
Correct!
Strange how it's permissible to spread all kinds of rumors about McCain but off limits to mention the facts about Obama's past and present associates, such as the Reverend whose sermons he claimed he never heard.
Sam would be correct
nm
You are correct and I think you are going to see it...
more and more as this campaign goes on. I think it has finally happened. The slumbering lion is waking up. :)
I am sure you are correct, but please,
be specific as me was.
Well.....if you are correct in
assuming that she and her husband aren't working their butts off....at least she isn't living beyond her means regardless of how many hours she works. At least she doesn't want a handout from the government and money given to her that she hasn't earned. There are people making as much as she does a year and are well beyond their means with toys, cars, homes, etc. Crying that they are victims and requesting a handout.
The most disgusting thing that I have ever seen was during Christmas. Every year my church does an angel tree. Every year I would take names of children and their ages and their interest and go out and buy them gifts so they would have something for Christmas. I wanted to help. What kid doesn't deserve a nice Christmas....ya know. So I went out and spent a lot of money on these kids. Come to find out....these kids weren't poor. Their parents drove newer and more expensive cars than I drove. The parents were only out for a free handout....and that sickens me. I felt used. I so wanted to help people who really needed help. Not people who were just looking for a free handout come Christmas time.
Unfortunately you are correct. s/m
Unions don't have any clout anymore thanks to the Reagan years. Without the ability to strike, what can they do? While my husband, as a retiree, has excellent benefits, it is something that is not available to workers retiring now and in the future. Fact is, we are worried that his benefits may be cut. They have raised the retirement age and will have to pay more for their medical insurance. Why? Because they have lost members. People who worked at CF with my husband and weren't of retirement age for the most part had to take non-union jobs which paid far less causing many of them to lose their homes and file bankruptcy. Did anyone hear about them? I guess not. That was in 2001 and truckers are worse off today than they were then as are most American workers.
People have let the unions that people fought for go down the tubes. American workers bought into the "unions have outlived their usefulness, aren't needed any more" from the Reagan years. Unhuh and we see how much the employers care about their employees now. Unions are no different than politics. They are no better or worse than the people who support them. Basically the clout of the unions came from people that had the fortitude to stand up for their rights and stand together. Unfortunately we don't have that any more, it's more like, "I've got mine, sorry about you."
Unfortunately, since McCain says Reagan is his hero, I expect if he is elected the American workers can expect to be further shafted. JMO of course.
You are correct on that one.
Consider that the tax issue will have to pass Congress unless my memory fails me. I would say middle-class is more like $80,000 to $150,000, depending on whether you fall at the lower or upper end. As I understand it what Obama is seeking to do is do away with Bush's tax cuts, which WILL affect just about everyone. The tax cuts, as many of Bush's policies, was a bad idea in the beginning. Now because of his poor management of the economy EVERYONE is going to pay more taxes and many of those free loaders we talk about may get told to get to work as they should be. Obama's plan appears to be to be nothing more than rolling back Bush's ill advised tax cuts in the first place.
You are correct..........sm
Arnold can run for Senate (provided he has his citizenship papers in order, and I believe he probably does. Not sure what the laws are in Kollyfawnya.) but he could never run for the POTUS or VPOTUS.
you are correct..it's still that way,
born and raised there, it doesn't change.
You are 100% correct. n/m
x
I would say you are correct
Is anyone really so ignorant that they think that if there was anything illegal about Obama's run for the presidency, that HILLARY first would not have exposed it? Certainly if she didn't McCain would have. Why do you suppose THEY let it go? Because it wasn't going to bear any fruit for them, that's why.
M is correct below - no, they did not
Bush gave his acceptance speech (like everyone does) then had respect for Clinton to finish out his term. Even though Clinton was a disaster too, Bush had the decency to wait until he was sworn in. I do remember hearing about who he was picking for cabinet members but he never held the press conferences that OMessiah is. Also, Clinton did not either. He too had respect for Bush Sr. This is just something you don't do. It is very disrespectful no matter how much you don't like or disagree with the outgoing president. You DON'T do it. They are not president yet and as far as I know the electorates have not even voted yet. So it is still not "cinched" that he is going to get in there. I do believe however he is giving so many press conferences (as many as he can get his face on the camera for) because can you imagine the outcry if the electorates do not vote him in. He's already preparing people to riot if he does not get elected. My take is that the more he gets his face on the camera, the more the idi@ts will believe he is already president. Then it puts pressure on the electorates and others that still have not voted him in yet that if they do anything to disrupt this there will be he!! for them to pay. O'Messiah knows what he's doing alright, but it doesn't make it right.
That is correct, but....(sm)
the middle man (the stores) get a share of that. As far as computers go, a lot of the components are made overseas, but there are some places here where they put them together. Then you have companies like Intel, who make computer chips, who have decided to move their stuff back to the US. Hopefully more will follow.
Correct
I do stand corrected. Thank you.
You are most definitely correct -
Many things our founding father said we should be listening to and following advice of, but they don't. They have an agenda to destroy all that is good in our country and they don't care anything about what the founding fathers went through to make this a great country. They understood very well what was happening and it's happening once again.
I should correct what I said about
straight people. I think that SOME straight people don't get marriage. Sorry if I offended anyone.....that wasn't my intention.
Yep....that's correct....(sm)
If the quotes above are from them, then I would say they either sucked at reading or weren't very good Muslims. And I'm sure noone from YOUR church would have a lopsided view of anything. But we wouldn't know anything about that, because all we know is what YOU say, and so far you're heading towards strike three on that count.
You may be correct that not all
However, I think most of Europe was happy we prevented them from all becoming German speakers - twice - how quickly they forget. The victims of genocidal nutjobs in Bosnia and Kosovo were pretty glad to see us. Kuwait was pretty grateful we kept Hussein from annexing their country. I believe the majority of Iraquis are delighted to be rid of him and his mistreatment and genocide of his own citizens.
Like it or not, the US has been in the business of subduing bullies since the turn of the last century. And when we don't step in, we're treated as though we're committing the atrocities ourselves. Why didn't we get involved? Because we don't like the victims? Because we have no economic or strategic interest in the region? Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
The citizens of North Korea might be very appreciative to be relieved of their own little megalomaniac, who starves his people in order to fund missile parades. Obama feels we do not have the right to decide who has nuclear weapons and who does not, so we'll probably never find out how the North Korean people feel, until KJI lobs a missile right at us.
And when there is a disease outbreak, a famine, hurricane, an earthquake or a tsunami anywhere in the world, who is the first to offer assistance? Like Ghostbusters: Who ya gonna call? And we are expected to step up and take care of it.
I think other countries are starting to suspect that their calls will begin to go unanswered. Certainly, voluntary charitable donations will be reduced in the US, and with a $7 trillion (that's a 7 with 12 zeros) US budget deficit, they might be getting the ideal they are on their own now.
That is correct....(sm)
and I understand exactly what you're saying, and yes, the same thing might happen, but I just don't think it will. This retaliation that you talked about was in the face of what the middle east saw as an endless war/occupation. That's not the case now. They aren't facing Bush now (in their eyes a war monger). They are facing a guy that is willing to work with the people, is coming clean about previous actions involving the middle east, and who is keeping Israel at bay. It's not that I think Obama is that wonderful, it's that the circumstances are that different.
Something else....everyone (including those in the middle east) already know there are more pics. It's not like that's been kept a secret. Granted, for some it may be worse to actually see the pics than to just know they are there, but I think if there was going to be another retaliation it would have already happened just from the knowledge that they are there.
Yes, you're completely correct. So we should do nothing to
only answer is hop around the globe, play eenie, meenie, miney, moe and choose another sovereign country to invade.
It didn't happen here.....yet. But every single terrorism expert believes it's not a matter of if but a matter of WHEN. And Bush is helping them by not protecting us satisfactorily and by providing THEM with OTJ training in Iraq.
Yes, I think I'm beginning to "get" it.
As far as what I feel about Conservatives, I've voted Republican a number of times in my life, so don't tell me what I think because you haven't a clue. I vote for the candidate, not the party, and if Bush and Kerry are the best this country can offer up, we need to worry about much more than terrorists.
So even the monitor can't correct you? NM
So....Correct me if I'm wrong here
But you seem to be advocate blowing somebody away just because you merely think they are going to do something wrong?
Quite the little anarchist, aren't you?
Yes, you care correct, however...
My point was simply that things are not black and white, or purely good or evil. I'm also not sure why anyone would try to categorize someone's ethics or morals based on the political party they belong to.
You are correct. Please ignore
my above post. I was given incorrect information and failed to check its validity before passing it on. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. My humble apologies.
Almost forgot...all the others are correct TOO!!
The others that you mention -- they are correct, too (about being on to me). Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by leaving them out.
Oops, that's right -- all those others are ME!!!!!
You are correct....others have....all over several blogs....
and another variation...Obama bin Biden. Don't agree with it, any more than I agree with going after candidate's families. Either candidate. Obama complained about people going after Michelle for her "proud of her country comment," said going after spouses was wrong, but have not heard him defend Cindy. Unfair if its Michelle, fair if it is Cindy. He's a politician and he is not any different than McCain in that respect. So much for change. Picked a guy who has been in Washington politics longer than most any senator on the hill. So much for change in Washington. Joe Biden a few months ago was saying he would be proud to be on a ticket with John McCain. Ahem. Sigh.
You are correct...he wants to control...
the situation, questions asked, etc, because he knows he couldn't come up with any anwers on the fly without knowledge of them first. He told Bill O to his face after one of the debates that he would come on his show after the primaries...hmm, so much for Michelle stating in her speech that he was a man of his word. Anyone who can't answer the tough questions without being prepped and coddled is not ready to lead this country.
That is correct, ms. And I don't believe that your regular...
Democrat on the street agrees with this nonsense...at least I hope not!! But they are allowing the DNC to define their party as low-life attack dogs and this stuff is as low as it gets. It is orchestrated with the media hoping John McCain will drop her from the ticket because they are scared spitless they will lose in November. All I hear is tap, tap, tap...hammering nails into their own coffin. Who wants ANYone from a party with this kind of values or lack thereof in the white house? Not me. Not now. Not EVER.
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