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Could you please define "rub burn" so that

Posted By: sm on 2009-01-03
In Reply to: Love those rug burns...keep rolling - .

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Could you please define "rub burn" so that
we can get to the insightful substance of your comment?
burn baby burn!


A Spanish mother has taken revenge on the man who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. He died of his injuries in hospital on Friday.


Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca.


While there, he passed his victim's mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out "How's your daughter?", before heading into a crowded bar.


Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.


The woman fled to Alicante, where she was arrested the same evening. When she appeared in court the next day in the town of Orihuela, she was cheered and clapped by a crowd, who shouted "Bravo!" and "Well done!"


A judge ordered her to be held in prison and undergo psychiatric tests, provoking anger from friends and neighbours, who have set up a petition calling for her release.


Soriano suffered 60 per cent burns in the attack on June 13 and was airlifted to a specialist unit. He survived for 11 days before succumbing to his injuries.


It is understood that the woman, who cannot be named because of laws safeguarding the identity of rape victims, claims to have no recollection of the attack which took place in the Bar Mary, just 300 yards from the family home.


As decorators painted over the blackened walls of his bar last week, Antonio Ferrendez Lopez told how Soriano had walked in at lunchtime.


"The place was packed with people eating. I was sitting at a table and Soriano was standing at the bar very close to me when the woman walked in," he said. "She didn't acknowledge anyone but walked up to Soriano, who was drinking a coffee, put her hand on his shoulder and turned him round to face her.


"Then she pulled the bottle she was carrying from under her arm and began to tip it over him. At first I didn't realise what was happening, but then I smelt the petrol. I jumped up and tried to grab her, but when she struck a match I got clear.


"The petrol was in a pool around Soriano, and she threw the match into it. It ignited with a whoosh, and he screamed and staggered about covered in flames. As people rushed outside to escape the flames, she just looked at him, then turned and walked away."


Customers helped Mr Lopez put out the fire with extinguishers and doused Soriano with water until paramedics arrived.


Soriano's attack on the woman's teenage daughter took place in 1998. The girl was going to buy a loaf of bread when Soriano snatched her from the street, threatened her with a knife and raped her. Her mother is said to have suffered mental illness ever since.


Soriano was convicted of the rape and ordered to serve 13 years in jail. The sentence was later reduced to nine years on appeal.


The woman's lawyer, Joaquín Galant, told The Sunday Telegraph last night: "The family has suffered a double tragedy. First the attack on their daughter and now this. Both the father and his daughter would like to express their sadness at the death of Soriano."


Earlier, Mr Galant said that the woman did not deserve to be kept in prison. "For seven years she has been deeply affected by what was done to her daughter," he said. "This man, fresh from prison and asking how her daughter was, might be considered to have provoked her."


Can someone please define *liberal* for me, please?....(sm)
I have asked this question before and did not get any answers, thought I would try again.  On another board I got slammed for saying Obama was a liberal.  Okay, if he is not, why isn't he?  I don't want a dictionary definition, I would like to know, you who post here, how do you define liberal?  How do you define yourselves, your political leaning...I am NOT trying to pick a fight, and I will not comment on the answers.  I would really, really like to know, and what better place to find out than the liberal board?
Define Liberal
American Heritage Dictionary:

lib·er·al (lĭb'ər-əl, lĭb'rəl) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. #

1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.

4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

5. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.

6. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.

7. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.

8. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.

n.
1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.


Define Liberal
That's about it, actually. That would be me. I can echo liberal democrat's sentiments too other than the democrat part. In my opinion only, "Leftist" is a term applied to people who do not agree with all conservative views, and is applied by conservatives. I would consider some of my views conservative, such as my own views on illegal immigration and fiscal responsibility, yet I have been called a leftist. Go figure.... They seem to think it is an insult I suppose.
Define Democrat, please.
Many democrats absolutely despite Fox News and all of its programs. Slanted, biased, misleading and at times, bald-face liars. They NEVER reports on isues important to democrats. NEVER.
Define morals.......

Your definition might not match mine.......That's why God gave us free will.


So one more time...please define
Bush's policies for which he should not be blamed.
Apparently you do define yourself that way.
By your own description, sex is determined by gender. Therefore, by your definition, describing yourself as female describes your sex life. So quit talking about your sex life with us. We don't want to hear it, and, if your postings are any indication, it's either really really boring or, more likely, probably kinkier than I could stomach.
Define change, please. Both sides.
nm
Please define the "change" you expected
Did you expect complete newcomers to Washington to take top cabinet posts at a time when the country is imploding? Is change about the people who lead or the rules they play by? Doesn't NEW POLICY count for anything? In terms of the economy, do you want experiments or experience? Remember the economy under Clinton years as opposed to W? It is a cabinet, not a regime. Please read the OP about where Obama is supposed to look for appointees and then share your ideas with us, if you don't mind.
you wanna go there? Define protect
We arbitrarily attacked a country that had no solid links to the attack. That has been proven. To say it was not known then is not an arguable point because it was not known then, so again, we attacked a country without probable cause.

Since our current President has been in power, no attacks have occurred. The only attack on US soil since WW II (by a known attacker, the Japanese) has been under the power of George W. Bush, and according to you, he would be the least strongest president in the present day.

To 'protect' does not translate into an aggressive attack, especially if the attacker is not a known entity.
I say we need to burn one down!! nm

Interesting....and I suppose Obama will define
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burn in hell, you bet
Yup, Bush and his family should burn in hell for what they did to Iraq and our brave soldiers, you bet they should and judge you bet I will.  Dont like it?  Like I said before, prehistoric dinosaur, dont read my posts. 
Burn in hell??
I don't recall anyone here stating that they wished the president and his family to burn in hell. Did I miss something? I don't particularly care for the policies of the current president, but I have nothing against him personally, he actually seems like a good-hearted person. I don't wish for ANYONE to burn in hell.

Wow, that's rich.
and Obama has money to burn
AP) Democratic Sen. Barack Obama has raised $7.2 million for his presidential campaign since the first polls closed on Super Tuesday night, his campaign said Thursday, a remarkable figure that is causing concern among supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Meanwhile Thursday, the Clinton campaign asked Obama to debate once a week, but he demurred.

Obama, riding a wave of fundraising from large donors and small Internet contributors, also raised $32 million in January.

Clinton acknowledged Wednesday that she loaned her campaign $5 million late last month as Obama was outraising and outspending her heading into Feb. 5 Super Tuesday contests. Some senior staffers on her campaign also are voluntarily forgoing paychecks as the campaign heads into the next round of contests.

Obama and Clinton outpaced all candidates in 2007, with each raising $100 million.

The Obama campaign said on its Web site that $7.2 million has been received since Tuesday evening. Campaign spokesmen said they were confident the figure was accurate.

Buoyed by strong fundraising and a primary calendar in February that plays to his strengths, Obama plans a campaign blitz through a series of states holding contests this weekend and will compete to win primaries in the Mid-Atlantic next week and Hawaii and Wisconsin the following week.

that might burn a hole in her blouse

nm


 


I have a priest, and he told us we would burn in
He[[ if we didn't vote for McCain and Palin. I'm not taking any chances - I'm voting Republican this year!
Hey, you'll burn with the rest of us....
so douse yourself in Kool-Aid. Hmmm.....8 years = 2? months. Yeah, okay. Them's some real smarts!!!
It's okay for gt to wish people to burn in hell, THAT'S okay, but THIS is bashing. sm
Whiners.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al.....are set to truly burn our
constitution to ashes, as well as our flag. Obama did that in real life, too, didn't he? Stood and watched the American flag being burned?


Bushy did his fair share in some eyes, I wager.


That's nothin' compared to what the incoming regime wants to do.


Come back in a year or less, and let's see who's right on this issue, hmmm?
Aaaahhhh! "Don't burn my virgin eyes with
'Heeelllp meee...........
I'm melllll-tinggg!"
No dupa - the shrub caused the crash and burn.......
Memory loss can signify medical issues which need to be attended to. Also, delusions can spell multiple significant issues which need to be addressed ASAP. Go with God.
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm

Just want to get this clear.


The whole country would crash and burn. Do you know how many jobs in Michigan alone are auto related
Michigan might as well hang a sign on the door saying last one out, turn out the lights. But then if Obama has his way, we won't have any electricity either because the coal companies will be bankrupted too. Domino effect in my opinion.
I don't think any sane person would say wishing Bush would die and burn in hell is an actual death

...particulary in the context of a heated political forum.


I think people are needing to create some drama to justify their actions.


The point is that both sides are naughty at times.  I do notice more personal attacks by the C's though and I looked at the posts pretty carefully.  The L's seem to rely on political/lifestyle issues to upset the C's and the C's just seem to respond with barking orders and making personal attacks (liberals are sissies, etc.)


The difference is that only the L's seem to be deleted and chastised on a regular basis.  Isn't this rather unfair and un-American.  It's called a double-standard and is not a pretty sight (and makes this not a pretty site)!!!!