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Condescending? You really have no idea

Posted By: just how miniscule....sm on 2008-12-03
In Reply to: Wow..... Be careful.......... sm - m

the fringe element that promotes this nonsense is, do you? Nothing condescending in expressing the views shared by WAY more than the majority of my fellow citizens...not to mention election officials nationwide who put candidates' names on the ballot, mainstream media, including even Fox, who is not making much of this story, Hawaiian authorities, their republican governor and, of course, the judges who threw the law suits out of court, just to name a few.


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You get an A for condescending...
but an F for cognition. My issue with Clinton, which I stated over and over ad nauseam, was with the fact that he committed felony perjury. It is you folks who keep bringing up the sex life. One would think you all have Monica envy.

The fact that you condone perjury and have no problem with that makes me wonder about your own "values."

Now that is condescending. nm
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Condescending.
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not condescending sm
I have no attitude problem here. I and many people I know do not want to vote for any of the 4 candidates. We are voting because it is our duty and not for any of them so far. Ms. Palin is intelligent, gifted, etc., but would you want her in the White House in charge of the country and the future of our country? Terrorists are not going to worry about Palin or any of the rest of them. Our children are going to have to get out there and have their throats slit if we make the wrong decision. The jury is still out and we have to weigh every issue, every candidate and listen carefully. Anyone who has their mind already made up as to our future and our children's future is free to post here. As for me, I am no elitist, I just want the best candidate. Nancy Pelosi is Speaker - what is the automatic assumption of position for her should someone die? Think, think, pay attention to "every word" from this bunch. I am "worried" and you should be as well! It's too early to tell, we are in the worst mess since the depression, so be informed and alert! No bread lines and no body bags for my family if I can help it. This is not a beauty contest or a popularity contest, it's the life of our loved ones at stake here. No news there, common sense!
I think it was condescending
I doubt there were many Americans who haven't at least heard of Fannie and Freddie.  That's what the politicians are hoping...that we the people are so DUMB we don't know what is going on.
Why are you always so condescending?
nm
They ain't living unless they are being condescending

and down right vulgar (hence the expletives tonight).  You're right.. the only time they have anything going here is when we come over.  They have nothing constructive to talk about when they aren't looking down their noses at conservatives who question their statements or bashing Bush.  It's a big yawnfest


That's why I'm using the moniker leftist/lib basher.  The best way to rile them up is to call them by what they call themselves.  Oh, wait a minute.  They're progressives now.  They'll be progressives until we call them that then they'll say we're calling them names and change it again.  Yes, they have tender widdle feelings.


Condescending? nawww....
you guys have the corner on that market. When you use it, you should not complain when it is used on you. However, you are much better at it, and I willingly bow to the master.

"Liberalism and conservatism are born out of political ideologies." Well, that certainly explains how compassion became a word and not a thread of your life. And I repeat...a desolate life it must be. Do you see ANY positives in life (well other than the crusade for utter destruction of those eevvvillllll conservatives...lol)?

"And your job here is to discount the liberal posts by condescencion?" Uh...no. Just as you asserted in your post, it is my right to disagree and it is my right to post what I believe or criticize what I do not believe. But oh...good grief...what am I thinking?? Only liberals have that right....right? lol!

"Is this a self-appointed job? Or nominated?" Does it matter? Why do you only preach to the choir? If you want to spread your message, that doesn't really make much sense, does it? Well of course it does, if you want people to support and validate you and need that to confirm and shore up your "political ideology. This post does actually answer my initial question...your life is controlled and motivated by "political ideology." What about your moral standard? Is that also formed by "political ideology?" Is your moral standard not influenced by "Liberal Thinking?"

But, bottom line, to use your own words...we all have the right to our opinion, and we all have the right to express it. No matter how much you would like it differently, it is still a free country...for ALL of us.
Must you be so snitty and condescending?...
....there seem to be quite a handful of democrats that post on this board all day long ad nauseum. Why don't you single them out?
They can't help it...snotty and condescending...
part of the DNA.
you are right. Condescending attitudes only
nm
It's not condescending attitude that
turns you away from Obama, it is your refusal to think for yourself and to vote for your own best interests.
condescending attitudes

Palin - Hilliary is a whiner (before picked for VP).  After picked -- I honor her for her trail making.


mcCain's rich financial advisor - America is now a nation of whiners.  They are having a mental recession.


 


 


What a condescending attitude.
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Elitist and condescending much?? nm
nm
Could you BE any more condescending? He is called Mr. President. sm
Like the poster below said, this is 6th grade stuff with the name calling and cutie pie nicknames.  Time to grow up now. Time to stop being members of the sore loser club.
You started the condescending, Teddy...
read your post again. It was very condescending. You talked down to me, and I thought it might be fun to respond from down there where you put me. You talked down to me and you were rude. You know it and I know it. I was just giving it back to you. Now that we are past the kid stuff, could you please answer my question, and enlighten me as to what the *big picture* was that I missed and leave the condescending attitude out of it. As to being a dumb condescending Polack...your words, and not mine...it is so hilarious to me the parallels. My guy is of Polack/German ancestry and he is standing behind me as I type, and we are enjoying a good laugh, so thank you from this Choctaw/Cherokee/Irish gal and her dumb Polack guy. LOL. We are looking forward to the *big picture* point, though.
Why do you say Obama has a condescending attitude? I think he is ...sm
much more understanding of the problems of the average American than McCain is.
It's not any more condescending than your post was attacking....
with all due respect. You view "independent" differently than I do. I was just explaining. I am not a Republican.
Well there is a condescending elitist statement....lol.
nm
Yes, and condescending, biased, partisan.
nm
It wasn't condescending, and the man in front of him was nodding...
I had heard of them but certainly not to the extent I know about them now. I am sure there are lots of people in the US who had no clue who Fannie/Freddie were.
Thank you for the elitist, condescending, loyal-to-the-party post...but the juvenile playground name
should be left on the playground.

Bottom line...Joe Biden is a liar. Whether he lied about being John McCain's friend or he lied when he attacked him...he lied. He is a liar. Look it up in your Funk and Wagnall's. If being devoid of character is what floats your boat, great. If loyalty to the party means checking your integrity at the door, so be it. If people want to associate with people of that "ilk" (your word, not mine), so be it. You might try looking up honesty and integrity while you are at it.

You criticize Bush for saying you are with us or you are against us, but isn't that exactly what you are saying here? If you aren't willing to do whatever it takes to put forward the party, then we don't want you...you're against us. Hey kettle..you are as black as the pot.

Your two posts are much more acidic than mine ever thought about being. Exactly what principles are you loyal to? I always thought honesty and integrity were principles. Hmmm. Well I guess not part of your party principles.

No, au contraire, I am sure you are a proud democrat. I am sure liberals are proud to be liberals. That is not in question. Whatever the cost, no matter what lies have to be told, what friends cast under the bus...

And in case you had not noticed, there are a lot of Americans out here who are not tied to the "party" like you are. This is probably the same kind of talk that was abounding in the National Social German worker's party. Look THAT up in your Funk and wagnall's while you are at it.

And before your head spins around and you spit fire...I don't think for a minute, thank GOD, that all Democrats share your hard line loyalty to the party at all costs.

Lady, you're scary.
A better idea. SM
Make everyone register as many other sites do.  That way, you have to keep the sam identity.  As far as the rest, both sides are equally at fault.  Using the "They" term and the "You" term are shallow.  I doubt the board is under new management.  You allegation that posters got special treatment is another delusion.  But since you won't be responding to me, I guess I don't need to let that bother me.
You have know idea who or what *they* are. sm
I would not make such statements about something you know nothing about. You read a story, it said what you believed and you ran with it.  My gosh, how do you ever learn anything?   Do you think I judge all liberals by these people?  Freepers are large contributors to charities.  They have a race on now to get together donations for Katrina victims. They are huge supporters of the military.  I have been going to their site for years and I have never seen anyone threaten to kill anyone. But it's something you want to believe and so you will. It's too darn bad.  There are liberals who post there, too.  But, of course, you don't know that. 
First of all, you have no idea what I would do
Clinton wasn't my favorite president but I have never hated him with the vitriol that you on the left have hated Bush.

As far as Lurker's thoughts about Bush they are assertions and not proven fact and I for one think they are hogwash--not to mention grossly, grossly over exaggerated.

Is that enough of an answer for you? Probably not...nothing is ever enough for you all.
I think I get where you get this idea
It's because all the baseless charges against Bush have truly been baseless. Let's talk about the void-of-actual-fact USA Today article about the so-called NSA release of private information. That has pretty much been debunked and exposed as yet another attempt to cast doubt on Bush. There are numerous other examples, and let's not forget *Rathergate*

Just because liberal journalists have a vendetta for this president and aren't smart enough to get anymore than forged documents to back up their reports does not mean the press has given the president a free pass. They just suck as journalists. That's not Bush's fault.
You have no idea.

but you have illustrated many points made about you here very well.  That isn't bashing, my dear, it's called truth.


Now that's an idea!!!
I'm all for that! She seems to be a real go-getter!!
I have no idea.

A friend of mine has been totally hot to trot on this story & has kept sending me stuff about it.  I haven't for obvious reasons. 


I was reluctant to even post that on this board.  It's become so obnoxious here that I may as well be on one of the left-wing sites. 


I've found a much more fun place to chat. Lots of conservatives and Libertarians, and much more interesting than this jazz over here. 


 


I have no idea.........
Guess I was raised by *gasp* liberals............frankly, no-bah-dee's bidness, but it is disheartening to see gay couples who love each other who cannot make end-of-life decisions for each other or any of the other "benefits" that heterosexual couples take for granted.
Hey I have an idea for
Since he is going to make all these changes and what not, instead of starting new government programs, why doesn't he just take all the money he is getting for his campaigns and help out people who are losing their homes, jobs, etc? Kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" approach? Then he would really be "different" from other politicians and I bet anyone he helped or saw him helping others would vote for him and he wouldn't have to waste time campaigning and making ads...


Just a thought :-D
not a bad idea.
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I'm not against the idea
of helping people who are helping themselves... regarding helping people with their loans because in turn it will help out the economy... this just seems to be the best suggestion I've heard so far but then again, I've not heard many. I will say this... I personally know someone who has multiple mortgages out on their home, in order to buy new vehicles, etc. not one cent put back into their home. Now I agree that people like that should not be helped, on the other hand, I also find it disgusting that anyone would lend them that money to begin with.
i had NO idea that was said
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Here is an idea

Because there is a lot of voter fraud (no matter what side you believe there is fraud on) do you think a voting system like this would work and if not why.


First, you do away with electronic voting.  Everything is paper ballots.


You have a regular sheet of paper divided in half (top and bottom).  At the top you have the name of one candidate with the word democrat or republican underneath the name (all in huge letters for those who have a hard time reading), followed by a picture of him/her (for those who can only recognize the candidate by their photo), followed by a big huge box.  Same for the other candidate on the bottom of the paper.  The big huge box is for people to put an X, checkmark or scribble inside the box.


Then, before you vote you will be asked by the people at the voting booths if you understand how to vote, if not they explain that you can x, check or scribble inside the box next to the candidate you want to win.  Each polling place gets only the exact number of ballots (pieces of paper) as there are people registered.  Also well ahead of time you tell people if they need to register to vote they need to do so ahead of time at the DMV and nowhere else (to avoid fraud).  If they wait and don't register they will not be qualified to vote and will have to wait til next election and that's just tough because they know the rules ahead of time. 


At the end of the night after the polls close there is a large group of people from both sides, they open up the boxes, take out the ballots and count them and on a huge blackboard tally up the votes.  There are a huge number of people from both sides watching, so there is no chance of fraud.  At the end of counting their tally is then sent into the main headquarters, again with a lot of people watching/listening from both sides so there is no chance of fraud. 


I've just often wondered that seeing as there is so much voter fraud and a lot of it with computers (college kids are able to hack into the system), why don't we go with paper ballots (and nothing with little hanging chads).  This is a huge box so you know right away who they voted for.


What do you think?  I can't figure out why there is voter fraud at each election and it never gets fixed.  Also, would you be upset it you had to wait until 11/5 to find out the true winner of an election.


Also, I think if a county or state is found guilty of voter fraud all their votes should be tossed out, no matter whether it is on the republicans side or democrats.  Rules should be noted ahead of time that if you are caught of voter fraud you will be treated like the children you act like and your privilage will be taken away and if there are any angry citizens they need to take it up with the people in charge of the voting system in their county.  This should be a law and take effect that way people know way ahead of time the consequences of fraud or any mis-doings and there will be no option to appeal.  You knew ahead of time and you pay the consequences if guilty.


Just frustrated with voter fraud every single election and there just has to be a way to put a stop to it.  Your thoughts?


I had no idea
what the heck?  I just went to that website.  Is this just one wierdo's website who thinks that he is the messiah?  Or are you saying to me that there are real people out there, ordinary, everyday people, who actually believe that he is sent from God?  Because I watch the news all day long, was gonna vote for O, and I have never, ever seen anything like this here. 
You have no idea what you are asking for
part of me hopes Obama wins just so you all can see him for what he really is.

If he wins there will be no more balance of power. We will have a liberal congress with a liberal president who elects liberal judges. But I guess that's what you want, huh? Lets forget family values, moral ways of life. If it's inconvenient, kill it. If you want to marry your dog, go ahead. Don't want to work? We'll take care of you.


I have no idea
I have only voted once before when I was in the military and I did it by absentee ballot because I was overseas.  So, who knows?  I just left it in God's hands.  But the above poster stated that it shouldnt matter.  I hope she is right!
That is when the idea was first put out by the guy....
and may not even have been what the original poster was talking about. The idea was first put out there in 2000. If is still on the net, so the "idea" is still out there. I had no idea any such thing ever existed. That is why I posted it. The original poster might not have been referring to that particular website. Sorry for confusion.
Thanks, BWT... This gives me a idea sm
of what he said. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
a really bad idea!
nm
You have NO idea.
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Where do you get the idea
that foreign made is better value?  My husband drives a 1996 Ford F150.  It just turned over 200,000 miles and has never had a problem.  Our friends have a 1994 Dodge Ram that just turned 300,000 and they just put a new trany in it.  Another friend has a 1994 Ford F150 that has over 300,000 on it...never any major repairs.  These are all farm trucks that pull heavy LOADED trailers all the time.  So what's wrong with that value for American made?  Oh yeah, the propaganda tells us that foreign cars are better and less expensive.  They are NOT.
My idea is this........
if you want change don't expect it to come from more of the same.  My definition is simply that I would like to see people appointed who have honesty, integrity and true concern for the American citizens and those with COMMON SENSE if there is such a thing.  I think we've had just about enough "experience" in Washington D.C.  They do have the Constitution to guide them, something the "experience" is doing it's dead level best to destroy.  As for who these inexperienced people might be, I don't have a clue.  I wouldn't mind vetting them myself.  For starters I might suggest Governor Mike Beebe from the Great State of Arkansas.
Is this your idea...s/m
of

SATURDAY NIGHT

entertainment.

You have my condolences.
Can you not afford something better than that?
Oh, yes, now I remembered you are a 'starving MT.
Now there's a novel idea!
Part of the problem we're in as a nation, I believe, is because people can't get past their "liberal/conservative" viewpoint to think for themselves.  I also believe the crooks (on both sides) are counting on such sheep in their base to allow them to carry out their crookedness.
The US's idea of a just war? (sm)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/06/gaza.hospital/index.html#cnnSTCText


The other side:


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200916191833159347.html


http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/20091585448204690.html


The idea
that all news channels are biased is in itself based on a Fox news talking point so her premise is flawed to begin with.  I think rather than an actual question she is disguising a propaganda point in the form of a question.  There seem to be about 4 or 5 that are repeated here over and over endlessly.  Not much opinion here to see just same talking points repeated over and over.
Do you have any idea how

much murder goes along with some of these illegal aliens.....the drugs....the kidnapping, etc.  Arizona alone had 359 kidnappings in ONE year due to illegals and the drug cartel in Mexico.....are you friggin kidding me!!!!! 


Not only that but they are taking away jobs from Americans and tax payers are paying their way.  You have no problem with this? 


You have no idea.........
Did anyone see that special on TV about the people of Appalachia? They are so poor, you, in your nice warm house with cable TV and plenty to eat can't even comprehend. They have no fluoridated water, so they have no teeth. They have no "real" school system, so they are uneducated. Their diet is so unsubstantial because what LITTLE they get in food stamps doesn't cover the entire month. They dress in rags, they have no teeth, no car and no money - AND to top it off - there are no jobs (not that they would be hired anyway). You have absolutely NO CLUE how desperately poor a LOT of people in this country is. You tell me how those people can escape the poverty they were born into in order to pull themselves up by their bootstraps? The stereotyping BS I read on this board shows some to be more ignorant than the uneducated poor I am talking about.