Certified BC from HAWAII has been submitted.

Posted By: Burden of proof on PROSECUTION...sm on 2008-10-24
In Reply to: We will soon find out once the investigation is complete - Kaydie

Immigration hearings are no different than any other court proceedings. The lawsuit is dead in the water because he cannot prove anything one way or the other...unlike the DNC, who has proven their case over and over and over and over and over again. There is no issue here. Go dig up some more dirt.

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We are heading toward a civil war of a magnitude we cannot foresee - Kaydie
- Schwarzenneger for pres - now that's funny
  - Kolly-fawn-ya!.......nm. - Dee
- You must be too young to remember the 50s and 60s. - Recent times pale in comparison....sm
  - Tell me the last election that a person who is not - Kaydie
    - You are correct for once...including the - 2008 election. He's a citizen. Deal. nm
      - Obama has never denounced his citizenship - sm
        He had the right to accept his Kenyan citizenship... sm - oldtimer
        Not once he was adopted into the country - of Indonesia............sm
        Perhaps when putting yourself out as an immigration law expert, - you wouldn't mind citing the statute. nm
        His father was a Kenyan. His mother married an Indonesian man who adopted him. However, no one...s - oldtimer
      - Obama is an adopted child of a Kenyan man - who is from Kenya.....Obama does
        It does not matter if he has quadruple citizenship was born on Pluto, - The one she inflicted on herself...sm
        He lost his citizenship upon adoption by his - Indonesian stepfather.....
        Not true, No one can give up the citizenship of a child who is a US citizen. nm - oldtimer
        His mother remarried an Indonesian man - no longer citizen after adoption
        Once you are adopted into another country - no longer citizen here.
        NOT TRUE. No one can take your US citizenship from you - no matter what. nm
        Both posts above are true- plus you could not - New Englander
        No, both plus yours are false. - Try consulting State Dept website. sm
        This is absolutely not true. Thank God for the ...sm - vermonter
        He has been able to produce no immigration - papers proving his citizenship
        Why should he? No other Hawaiians - required to do this. Look, we know....sm
        Correction, that should be Indonesian man by - the name of
        Unbelievable, ignorance abounds. nm - oldtimer
        You're right. You should educate yourself out of - your denial........nm
      - We will soon find out once the investigation is complete - Kaydie
        The investigation IS complete. Have you been sleeping? nm - Geez!
        See link - New Englander
        No, it's not complete......still in the courts - sm
        Not complete! YOU ARE SLEEPING. - Lawsuit still in the court now.nm
        Yes it is. Any attorney with an ax to grind can file appeals - 'til the cows come home.
        This is not an appeal......it is asking for a vault - certificate, which he can't produce......nm
        Can YOU produce your vault birth certificate? - If this is any indication of how dense
        No such thing as a "vault" birth certificate...sm - oldtimer
        There is such a thing - see message - just me
        'vault' birth certificate - zoesnana
        Yes I can - nm - New Englander
        Sure I can......... - sm
        Certified BC from HAWAII has been submitted. - Burden of proof on PROSECUTION...sm
        SO far he hasn't proven anything - lawsuit still in process
        My God. It's like talking to concrete. - They have SUBMITTED the required documents...sm
        Even if he could prove citizenship, which he - hasn't, he is no longer
        Then why didnt O just provide the REAL documents - and get it overwith? -still ongoing.nm
        Good question...why hasn't he? However, - there is proof that he was
        His father was a Kenyan citizen. We all know that. What is ...sm - oldtimer
        He was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather - sm
        How may times do I have to say this? You are absolutely wrong. No one,,, sm - oldtimer
        Old news, the real documents have been submitted and accepted. nm - oldtimer
        Nope, he has to prove a lot because - sm
        Wrong! O was ordered by court to submit his vault - copy of BC, ignored that, still ongoing.nm
        Uhhh. BTDT. What part of burden of proof is on the prosecution - do you not get? sm
        Ah no, burden of proof is on Obama to prove his - citizenship..........just like it
- You do know that McCain isn't technically eligible to run for president, right? - independent
  - Please. They are both eligible. What is wrong with you people? sm - geek
    - Crimenetra - independent
      - Once he was adopted into another country he - lost his citizenship here
        As a matter of fact, I do ... - independent
        The depth of this ignorance is inconceivable. - Yes, as a matter of fact, I do...sm
        His Indonesian father adopted him who lived ONLY - in Kenya
        Are your geographically challenged. Indonesia is in Asia and...sm - oldtimer
  - They researched this in 1999 and verified - he was ..............sm
  - Technically he is eligible to run - see message - Kaydie
    - He was born too early ... - independent
      - 11 days out. Seriously. Aren't we beyond the point - of no return here? Get real, will ya?
    - Wrong, What are we going to do with you Kaydie? sm - oldtimer
      - heh heh - maybe she's "home-schooled" - - ......
        Home-schooled kids are smarter than publicly - educated kids........ MSMT
    - Citizenship argument...another red herring on - te road to nowhere.
    - So frickin' what? - sheesh
    - PS - I forgot to add - Kaydie
      - Still holding out that last desperate hope - on that frivolous lawsuit, are we? sm
        No he has not proven anything. He still cannot - produce a vault certificate
      - you forgot to add that you are a RACIST. - NMSG
        You sound like Obama. Have a problem with - someone so call them a RACIST. cop-out.nm
        This is a hurtful statement - Kaydie
        Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! You can MAKE - acusations, but cant TAKE em.
        I didn't say anything hurtful toward you and I don't want to be banned. - Kaydie
        Sorry you have to deal with so many cooks - they have no values, don't ya know
- You seriously need to GET A GRIP. - Your post sounds almost Orwelian.
  - Nope...see message - Kaydie
    - Not gonna bother. your posts are way too - long and filled with racism.
      - So now I'm a racist because I don't want the constitution violated? - Kaydie
        The constitution has very little to do with it, - and U know it.
        What a dimwit...the constitution has EVERYTHING - to do with our country or at
        Yep, anyone who is NOT for Obama is a RACIST. - sm
        There ya go - you sed it yerself! - ;p
        I was also told I was racist cuz I did not believe OJ Simpson was innocent. Whatever. - nm

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The officials in Hawaii have already certified
that he's an American citizen & released his original birth certificate. The fact that you're still spouting this nonsense & have never heard the term 'office of the president elect' before now shows that you rely too much on forwarded emails and Fox "news" for your in-depth information. LOL.

Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted...
a voter registration in that name.

No need for that. His eligibility has already been certified
has been upheld in court challenges. Berg's case was not dismissed on BC evidence, making your outlandish claim about the seal rather ridiculous. It was dismissed because he could not prove standing and claims of harm. Why don't you try taking a stab at the other questino about just where the pub party is trying to take this? Biden as president? Supermajority still seated? New elections? What can they possibly gain from this folly?

Only $473,000? Whoever submitted that bit of pork
We just spent $6 million to install bomb detection equipment at the airport in (drumroll.....) Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I've been worried sick about Jackson Hole, haven't you?

If he has been certified already by the Secy of State
were not successful 74 days prior to the election (as spelled out clearly in the election code), his eligibility is upheld. Hence, the question about the timing of the challenges. Why did no one seem to care about the constitution in 1996, 1998, 2002, 2004 or the summer of 2008. There was plenty of time to challenge this guy. Berg's lawsuit surfaced on August 21, literally minutes after it became apparent that Barack was going to seize the nomination and that his candidate, HC, would not be the VP pick. He filed his lawsuit 75 days out from the election, making it impossible to get a result in time to have Obama removed from the ballot. Can you say sour grapes loser. Book deal. TV movie. Attorney megalomania?

The birth certificate has been submitted to the DNC, the Illinois Secretary of State x3, the US Secretary of state x2 and to the US Regional court....all of whom have so far upheld its legitimacy.

What part of he has alrady been certified
It happened before the nomination for PRESIDENT. Like I said, if Berg the Boob was really worried about that constitution, he had From February 10 2007 until Summer 2008 to act. I notice you are not addressing that fact.

Helloo, ACORN submitted a voter...
registration with the name "Jive Turkey" on it. I did not invent that. Along with Mary Poppins and Mickey Mouse. If anyone is racist, they are racist.

Old news, the real documents have been submitted and accepted. nm
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Certified graduate of the *How to Insult like a kindergartener* school of insults. SM

Not true. This is the latest poll, figures submitted just today. nm
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Hawaii
Now you know.

He said he would take them all to Hawaii but with

Yes, he war born in Hawaii which in in the US. nm
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You mean his supporters in Hawaii
I will be satisfied when the supreme court decides whether or not the certificate is legitimate. Having Hawaii legally seal this only raises suspicion.

Show me the proof that there was an official "Office of the President Elect" in the past. Never was! This was created by Obama. There has always been a transition team, but never a made up office. Even Clinton was not this arrogant.

Since you didn't like Fox news, here are some other links.

http://www.newemergencypreparedness.com/office-of-the-president-elect/

http://186-kps.com/blog/2008/11/07/obama-ego-the-office-of-president-elect-wtf/

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_president_elect_/2008/11/10/149643.html

I could post many more sites but it doesn't matter because if it goes against the O you just won't believe it no matter how true it is.

um, yeah... Hawaii is a state... duh
50 states

Where in the announcement does it say he was born in Hawaii...

If you listened to Michael Savage's interview, he actually had the newspaper with the announcement. It does not state the location of the birth. It just made an announcement.

Our local newspaper always has announcements for births and many of those births are from other states, etc. It is just an announcement to let the community know that one of their members had a child, grandchild, etc.

Hawaii backs Martin

The state of Hawaii has backed Andy Martin. CNN, Factcheck.org and Obama campaign exposed as liars.

http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/

Barry is lying to the people and they don't care. They don't care that the constitution is not being followed.

Whether Barry wins or not I believe Hillary should file lawsuit to sue him and the DNC chair for covering it up.

Hawaii backs Martin? What does that mean? nm
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Obama's trip to Hawaii.
So you would have Obama take is chidren out of school in the middle of the week, fly them 4250 miles on a 10-hour plane trip for a jet-lagged 1 day sick bed visit with a bed-bound frail elder who was released from the hospital with a broken hip just 2 short months after they had spent quality time together on a private family vacation, when GM was probably looking a whole lot better than she does now? After that, you would have him turn right around the next day and take another 10-hour 4250 mile plane trip back home while trying to come up with answers about "what's wrong with grandma"?

There is a very strong possibilty that these children will have their lives changed forever next week should they become the nation's first family. They will be thrust into the bright glare of media scrutiny, pack up all their things, leave the only home they have ever known, say goodbye to all their friends and prepare to take off for DC in the middle of the holidays and move into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be greiving the loss of their grandmother in the middle of all that.

If these were my children, I would want to presevere the memory of the family vacation and protect them from premature greiving over the impending loss. I feel sorry for people who live in such a hateful frame of mind all the time that they could be so thoughtless as to not even consider what they might be doing with their own children in a similar circumstance.

North Korea threaten to fire missile towards Hawaii on 4th of July

On the 4th of July. How should the US respond?