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Cant' you stick to issues and not personally attack

Posted By: those who don't agree with you. on 2009-01-12
In Reply to: Get help................ - nm

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please stick to the issues
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Can we please stick to issues
And not come here to start a fight. I see a lot of issues being talked about below, and then we have the messages put out evidently to begin a fight with the "you republicans".

I want to hear about health care issues, TARP, job loss, Iran, and other issues affecting my life. Not the rantings of lunatics who want to instigate something.

For all those who are "you republicans" there are equal who are "you democrats".

Issues people, issues.
Then maybe you should stick to facts, substance and issues
The liberals attack those who do not agree with them. And it's not attacks on issues or facts it's personal name calling attacks.


It's okay to not like Palin. What is not okay is to attack other posters personally which is wha
I was called ugly and jealous because I said I preferred a qualified woman and said that Palin had only herself to blame for her unpopularity. I was called ugly and jealous because I have an opinion and that is what is against the board rules. Read the rules.

Yeah...almost asridiculous as yours, I admit...so shall we cease and desist and stick to real issues
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Why do you feel the desperate need to attack, attack, attack....
what IS it about Obama that inspires this kind of thing? I guess you don't get it when someone is being facetious do you? Read the whole thread...including the part about celestial choirs, which was said by one of Obama's supporters.

The smoke machines and strobe lights was definitely a joke, one can only hope they would not do something so ridiculous but who knows....Britney Spears' set designer designed that set.

So much for no celebrity status. LOL.
She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.

Where did you get your debating skills?  On the south side of Chicago in some street gang?  Because if you did, it shows.


In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks.  Yet, that's all you people know how to do.  You can't stay on the issue.  You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years.  In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity. 


As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you.  Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers).  If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker.  You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere.  It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn. 


As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found.  Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time.  Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums.  Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.


Have a pleasant evening.


Issues people, issues. I need issues

I'm not seeing any discussion about issues.  Can we stick to the issues.  Jeeze - I want to hear good and bad about both candidates but with facts to back whatever is being said.


P-L-E-A-S-E.....I want issues.  How can I make any kind of determinatons about who I'm going to vote for if I don't hear about the issues.  Reading some of this I'm thinking I'd get more truth if I read the National Enquirer.


Yes, better stick with
your characature of Obama because it always makes sense to take something and run with it.
Have to stick up for him already...nm
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Stick around
I got a million of  'em.  I'M HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS!  Be sure to tip your waitress!
Just stick it to grandma,
that there medication..she's a fakin'..we'll slash her Medicare benefits! 'Sides we can always borrow more money from China..uh,what's his name? Oh and we'll let the grandkids pay....Huh? What deficit? Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and the war? Bake sales! Doin' a heckuva job! Just keep dem hands off doze tax cuts! 'Scuse me, gotta do more speechifyin' 'bout what a good job I'm doin'. {{{smirk}}}}

Ah, the Bush way...good plan. It would be funny if it wasn't so freakin' pathetic. Heaven help us.

Take this website and stick it
you know where. We all know PUBS are the ones who cheat. Please, what is wrong with you, really???
I will stick up for Sam, too. -not a bully.
nm
So I should stick myself in a room
and never go anywhere because it's everyone's right to display sex drugs and violence everywhere? Where is my right to live in a society that doesn't bombard us day and night with those lifestyles?


The least you could do is stick to the subject...(sm)
As far as how I could vote for Obama after 911.  Well, probably because he won't go running all over the middle east starting illegal wars in the name of fighting his "the axis of evil."  My guess is once he straightens out Bush's mess, which is a job all by itself, he'll do what this country needs him to do -- restore credibility.
Did you stick your tongue out at me too?
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I will stick with my moniker...
Liberal, Pro-Choice, Agnostic.
Nah....I think I'll stick to the ones...(sm)
who would encourage violence.  Maybe Hannity -- which violent revolution would you pick was the question on his website.  How about Glenn Beck?  How many people have been killed because of him now?  Loved the gas can circus show, BTW.  And then there's Limpbog -- the defacto leader of the pub party. 
because conservatives stick to the old,
boring stuff and it is the independents and liberals that breathe fresh air into life.
I think he should stick to his speech writers.
I can't hardly believe something as potentially volatile was discussed amongst that staff before he let that one go! Personally, I think its nothing more than a diversion to get people thinking and talking about something other than the war in Iraq.
Enough. Stick the with political discussions..

If your posts are directed towards posters and NOT a political issue or discussion, you will be banned.  We've asked nicely, we've posted it on here. 


 


YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE, just stop the childish behavior of attacking people on this board. 


...except for all those straight-laced, stick-up-their
@rses republican biddies. They think anyone who isn't just like them is a witch. Sometimes it feels like Salem all over again.
OK. You stick with equating O with satan and
Like I said before. Gloom and doom does not seem to be working for the camp.
Sorry, Tech - but why don't you stick up for yourself with these no-nothing harpies? nm
NM
Where's my dead horse beating stick???
The US went to war with Iraq for a number of reasons, including concern over Saddam's failure to account for WMDs, which put him in violation of the treaty that ended Gulf War I, and violation of several UN resolutions - I can never remember if it was 14 or 17.

If you really want an answer to this question, a search for the resolution permitting use of force in Iraq should be relatively easy. I'm not sure it's worthwhile, though, since the matter is essentially moot, since we are there now.

My question to you: There is a lot of discussion lately about possibly increasing troop levels in Iraq to try to bring the security situation under control. What are your thoughts on that? Do you support it? Would you support it if you could be persuaded that there was a reasonable possibility of success?

Personally, I'm a bit ambivalent. I don't have a problem supporting more troops, but I think it's as much a PC problem as a troop number problem in Iraq. In other words, I don't think US forces can do much to bring security to Iraq if they are forced to always act in the most P.C. manner possible so as not to risk offending any single faction or, heaven forbid, creating negative spin in the press.

I certainly think we could be effective there in securing the country, but only if we realize that we might have to leave a heavy footprint in Iraq in order to accomplish that goal. For example, I think we should have taken out al Sadr, even if it meant leveling significant portions of Sadr City, when he first became a major underming influence to the new Iraqi government. Some may think that makes me a flag-waving member of the Death Squad, but I have to wonder how many lives could have been spared in the long run had we stamped al Sadr out then, when we had a good tactical opportunity and could have done so fairly easily.

If we're going to send our troops over there in harm's way to fight for the security of Iraq, the dream of democracy, and the creation of a competing vision for the future of the Middle East, then we must let them fight to win.

Oh please, spare the drama and stick to facts.
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Nice post. Stick to the facts and away from...
the "opinion" pieces for your information. Watch the pundits and commentators for entertainment. lol.
RW should stick to comedy and leave politics out
I saw him interviewed on the Graham Norton show. He was about drooling at the mere mention of the name Obama. His eyes glazed over and you could almost see him enter a trance. I like RW as a comedian very much. Funny as anything and I will LMAO at his comedy routines, but when he starts interjecting his opinion of politics, well lets just say he should stick to comedy and funny voices. That's what he does best. I do agree with the poster who said "another ignorant celebrity". Many of them are ignorant about the issues. 98% of the Hollyweird people live in their own little world and don't know what it's like to live in the real world like we do. But they think because they have millions, live in mansions, and that their fans worship the ground they walk on they are more knowledgeable about politics. Unfortunately because RW spouts off at the mouth with his little knowledge of politics, it really ruins it if he acts in a movie. Very similar to Tom Cruise and his Scientology taking over his life. Doesn't make me want to watch any of his movies.
Your stick-up-your-butt rigidity and intolerance -
What goes around, comes around, and people who think with their retentive anuses instead of their minds, usually get what's coming to them in the end. So if that's the thinking and the politics you align with, then I'm just so very happy for you.

You've been spouting off for weeks with reams and reams of copied and linked material that you think was written by God himself. You criticise every post that suggests that the poster is of another party, or even that they are open to ideas other than YOURS.

And the REALLY sad thing is, you actually think that what you write actually MATTERS, and that people listen to what you say and think, and that they actually care. Well know what? Most people on here don't give a flying F_ _ K what you think.
I agree. It's like a sharp stick in the eye, but it's important to
nm
I stick by my statement - doesn't make it right
And the lady who set fire to him is just as bad as he is.
You just stick with the Communist News Ninnies. That's more
O'Reilly sometimes uses three-syllable words, so you wouldn't be interested.
I understand the night stick guy was made to leave. sm
And, while I do question the other guy's right to wear whatever he wants if that "whatever" includes an political activist statement such as Black Panther regalia, my MAIN question is where this pole is being held. Are residential buildings considered appropriate places for voting polls for national elections?
Stomp and whine then stick your hand out.........figures.........nm
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Is Newt your president? Lets stick with the present
There is about to be an explosion of spending and for those that really do work and think they won't be paying taxes, think again! You could only use half your brain or whatever is lucid and understand the ONLY way to pay for that kind of spending is by EVERYONE who works to pay taxes.

You really need to get off your one-party tunnel vision way of thinking, and I would say think like an individual, but I can see you are a follower of Obama, and as we all know, most of them have never thought for themselves.

I'm an independent......sure as heck didn't want a totalitarian government in power and if I had to choose between Newt and that backside kisser we have in office now, I'd choose Newt....


Too bad we're stuck with Obama and his crooked cronies!!

I feel it safe to say you have never had an independent thought in your life.....


Abuse of Power charges stick to Palin like glue.

So, what goes around comes around.  After a hard week out on that campaign trail attacking Obama right, left and center, seems Sarah has a character issue of her own now to deal with.  Oops!   


Can you stick to the subject EVER? Oh wait, i'm unfairly attacking you by asking what you read,
nm
Sure, my little Hitler mustache, or landing strip or fish stick...whatever
you wish to call it. Sorry you can't afford your own razors.
hahahah!! You are so insecure that you do not even dare to post a username and STICK to it..nm
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Translation: I watch a lot of Fox News and stick strictly to party rhetoric.nm
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I'm waiting for racist wife Michelle to stick her foot in her mouth....

This what I'm personally going to do

In every place I go where the pledge is recited ballgames mostly when we got to the words under God it's amplified UNDER GOD!!!  That's what I intend on doing even if it becomes illegal.  I don't care if they outlaw the word God period I'll shout it from the mountaintops.  First of all to glorify my God, and second of all to irritate those who think it's a curse word.


Go ahead sue me...hang me...chop my head off.  The best is yet to come for me anyway. 


I personally think that

the McCain campaing has set Palin up to be the attacker of Obama's character and let McCain talk about what they will do if they are elected. 


As for Palin lying, I do believe that Obama has not been 100% truthful with things brought out about him.  He has changed his story several times on different associations and issues and that makes me not trust him. 


I do find it interesting that a lot of times what an Obama supporter can say about Palin....a McCain supporter can say about Obama.  LOL!  Kind of makes you wonder what the heck all of us are thinking really. 


One thing that holds true for me in the case of Sarah Palin is that she cut spending in her state.  I truly do believe that for the sake our country....we need to cut back on the government pending and this just reinforces my trust in McCain and Palin to do just that.  Obama...on the other hand....I believe will not cut back on spending as he has endorsed more pork in his short term in senate than McCain has his entire career.....and that to me says a lot.  And that has nothing to do with him being a POW and having the scars to prove it.  LOL!


Personally, you hit on one of her best...
attributes. I like the idea of a VP who could lock and load with the Secret Service if need be. Shove those guys out of the way and take care of herself. Hooah! lol.
Well, I personally am a
right-leaning Libertarian who registered Republican last time McCain made an attempt, just so that I could vote for him in that primary.

This time around he has morphed into something so frightening that I'm voting for Obama, & I haven't voted for a Democrat in 30 years.


Well, personally s/m

I could  not care less so long as they don't mess around with the constitution.  I do think, however, that there is much ado about nothing.  As for the alleged tax breaks...when my husband and I married we asked my CPA about tax ramifications.  He said we would be better off to marry.  When we filed our first joint return, the same CPA said he didn't realize how much our income was and that in fact, marrying was the worst thing we could do tax-wise.  So if gays/lesbians want to marry for tax purposes, they had better take a good hard look at where the marriage will put them.


I don't know that there's anything legal/illegal about it but I expect that in the case of serious illness or injury a significant other would not be kept from the bedside. 


My husband and I used an attorney to draw up papers (forget what they are called) that directs everything that could possibly be foreseen and the cost was something like $350.  That would work just as well for gays/lesbians I would think.


We  have a gay couple in our community, also biracial.  They moved here from another state.  Both wear wedding rings, I have no idea what it symbolizes, haven't asked.  One is rather elderly and has relatives here but they accept the significant other and everyone just goes about their business.


Gay/lesbian relations are not new, it goes all the way back to biblical times.  I don't lean in that direction myself so I do not know anything about it, whether it is a choice or people are born with that bend.  I just have a hard time with God saying that it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man as with a woman and then that He would turn around and cause people to be born with this kind of sexual orientation.  That being said, let them do what they will, it is between them and God.  Like religion and politics, they don't need to try to shove it down the throats of the majority who are heterosexual.


I personally don't know anyone......... sm
with voter's remorse right now, but I can guarandangtee you there will be a whole bunch of folks in about 6 months to a year or so who will rue the day they cast their ballot for the O.
perhaps you just don't personally know anyone
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Personally
I think it's all of the above and then some.
attack once again
I am not bitter, I am not hateful.  I know what is good for the country and it isnt what is in Washington, DC right now.  The proof is there by the way this country is going to hell in a handbasket.  I want this country to turn around and become the country I grew up with, the country I was once proud to be a part of.  Im fighting to turn the craziness around for future generations and the way to do it is to speak and debate and let the people know there is another way to run this country other than what we have right now.  You are the one who is getting so hot headed and attacking me and calling me vile, hateful, etc.  Im just debating and stating my political stance and putting the blame where it belongs..on this administration.  When something is wrong, I say so.  I do not give my respect blindly.  The administration, whether republican or democrat, earns my respect and this administration has not earned my trust, loyalty or respect.  The 1990s were a great time, we had a surplus, no major terrorist war going on, no terrorist breeding ground of our own making as we now have, Saddam was contained and his people at least had electricity, jobs, food, a stable life, we had low unemployment.  The 1980s were a great time too.  The reality now is we are in a terrible situation in this country and we are not respected around the world.  We really have no friends that will help us in Iraq, the ones that are there are pulling out..Italy in 09/2005 and now the talking heads are stating the British might just put pressure on Blair to start pulling out.  We are in a situation of this administrations doing and Im not willing to just sit quietly and let the powers that be continue to drive us deeper and deeper into world wide insanity.