Can you support this with some facts or is this your take on it?
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-03
In Reply to: media brainwashing - hang on a minute
From what I read if it did not pass there would not be credit to buy ANYTHING, and if small businesses' credit lines dry up, even more job losses. Is there something that leads you to believe that would not happen if the bill was not passed? I don't want to fight, just want to get the facts.
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Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.
What facts support that the "left" exposed this news as you say?
get the information that it came directly from the left? A left-leaning media doesn't count, either. When you say it came from the "left," it insinuates Barack's camp was responsible somehow. Is that the case?
Is Obama losing support or winning support?
John Clodfelter of Mechanicsville, Va., whose son was among the 17 sailors killed in the Cole bombing, said he arrived at the meeting with apprehension over the decision to close the prison. But after listening to the president and being assured that the terrorism suspects would not be released, Mr. Clodfelter said his opinion changed.
“I did not vote for the man,” Mr. Clodfelter said, “but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him. He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”
O's votes support his claims. JM's votes support Bush.
Believe what you like. Voting records tell the tale. Could use a few more details on that budget. Just what programs will he slash and and how many tax dollars will be directed away from middle class and in the direction of the rich? How much longer can the infrastructure afford to crumble?
JM adopted O's withdrawal plan when he saw how well it went over with the public in an election year. He flipped on the war once. What's to stop him from flipping again once elected? The nation is war weary. Some prefer a surge in diplomacy, not military answers to diplomatic failures. Ask the Iraqis who have lost more than 100,000 among them how sucessful the war has been. Obama has always understood that the OBL/Taliban live in Afganistan, not Iraq. JM, a little slow on the draw there.
I see nothing in JMs platform that backs his claims about transparency. I see specific plan on the O side under technology initiatives, continued initiatives which originated under Clinton and were reversed during the undercover Bush administration. Pork barrel spending for pubs means something different than it does to dems. Slash the poor to give to the rich? Hard seel in the current economic frefall. Also find nothing in JM's plan to address runaway contract corruption in Iraq. Having Halliburton and companies there props up those struggling American corporations. Show me the plan.
Antiglobal/antidiplomacy. No surprise there. This is about the futureworld, not American imperial delusions of grandeur. So much data on the drilling scam being an immediate relief for gas problems out there it is not worth addressing. Can you say T-Bone Pickens, i.e., we can't drill our way out of this one. He should know. Been an oil man all his life.
Since these are just a few, what else do you have up your sleeve?
Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.
Here ya go.........
http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.
Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.
Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.
And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.
She's not whining, and neither are we.
I just shake my head at your audacity.
The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.
IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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And who would u support?
Is this Tara again?
I don't support HRC but......she has won the
That means, for the people that actually turn out to vote, she has gotten their votes, which is what a democracy is all about. Delegates are not constitutional in the first place....they were illegally put in place to supposedly keep one state from taking over the voting process; however, super delegates are completely illegal and have absolute conflict of interest.
So, Obama has NOT won the popular vote.....HRC has. I don't care for either of them, but looking at Obama's bedfellows, it's quite clear where his thoughts really lie and I certainly don't want anyone like that running my country. We are taxed enough without representation of those taxes and he has made it quite clear, all he wants to do is RAISE taxes and GIVE TO THE POOR. Pleeeeeze, we have so many social programs in my county alone, it's pathetic. THe ones geared towards children are not working, Headstart is just a babysitter for a bunch of teenage moms (in my city) who sit all day, DO NOT work, and are so lazy, they can't even get off their butts and walk their 3 year old out the Headstart bus that picks their children up curbside. Stand at the door in their PJ's, kids aren't even dressed when the bus comes, and the lady has to get off the bus and stand hollering for them to come on NOW. It's sickening to watch. And, Obama wants more of that? How about calling it what it is.......children who aren't learning in school are not learning because they go home to sloppy lazy parents, some no parents at all, living with whoever they're push off on, and homework is the last thing considered important. The only meal most get is at HeadStart OR free lunches at school. Until Obama wants to call it what it is and stop blaming the education system, then he's no better than any other candidate who just likes to point fingers instead of getting a backbone and say what the problem really is......NO parents, drunk parents, doped up parents.....the list goes on and on......
They support NRA
so you can hunt and so you can defend yourself if someone tries to hurt you. It is called self defense. Killing an innocent child isn't self defense....it is called murder and it is also selfish. I just don't understand why some of you people would rather save a rapists and murders life and you don't believe in the death penalty for criminals but you have no problem ending the life of an innocent child who has done nothing wrong and has no choice in the matter.
I support what we need to do -
I do not say I am against war in general - I am against a war that should never have been! I do not want to send my son to die based on lies and deceit.
And yes we have schools in this country - but they are all underfunded and could use a lot of that money we are putting into building Iraqi schools...
We have programs to feed our hungry - but not enough to cover all the hungry or needy!
I just do not think we should be putting our resources into other countries when our country is so in need. Not only our financial resources, but our human resources (our soldiers).
What does that mean.......if we all support?
It is not the job of my country to support or supply contraceptives to anyone outside this country. If those countries want to stop their pregnancies, they will have to figure that out for themselves, not with my dollars.
Maybe start by sterilization? Not our job to "support" any country monetarily to take care of their population of obviously unwanted births. Yes, I will verbally support they stop the reason for the pregnancies in the first place, but I do not agree to my having to pay for it.
That's their problem!
We should support him? Not if we do not like
That is like saying Hail to Hitler because WE HAVE TOO, even though we all know how he turned out. I am not saying O is like that, but gee whiz, I WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM OR GOVERNMENT if I do not like what they are doing and so far, I DO NOT. In fact, give my money back from the last bailout and I REFUSE FOR MY MONEY GOING TO NEW FURNITURE IN AN OFFICE, MONEY FOR PRODUCERS TO MAKE MOVIES THAT SOME FRANKLY SUCK AND SO ON.
Sorry, just irritated with our government who frankly SUCK AT THEIR JOB!
I don't have to support anything I don't believe in...
and I believe we got shanghied into another Vietnam. Sadam Hussein was a vicious dictator, but he kept the lid on that boiling pot. Who supplied him with arms and training in the first place? I have family who served in desert storm and were recycled through this cluster and I still don't support it. Army suicides are at an all-time high, why? Because they believe in what they are doing? It's a crushing shame how our troops have been treated. And that's all I have to say about that.
You don't have to support anything you don't believe in....
We already have to protect ourselves - my uncle's house was broken into the other day, someone else in the community was broken into and their pet dog was stomped to death. I saw on the news a group of 4 armed men attempting to break into a home and the homeowner saw them and had fast access to a weapon and a firefight broke out. You haven't seen nuthin' yet. Wait till the food pantries empty out.........everybody better be armed and dangerous and don't ever fool yourself into believing our country isn't already occupied by terrorists - because it is. I will fight to the death (already have cancer, might as well go out with style instead of in a diaper).
Again with no pub support....(sm)
If this thing works, those pubs need to start grabbing thier ankles.
Right now I don't support any
politicans because they all suck, IMO. I did not vote for Obama and I don't support him or our congress. I don't like him giving Nancy Pelosi free reign to right spending bills. I don't like Obama turning healthcare reform over to congress to write. I just do not see things out of Obama that makes me feel positive about the direction our country is heading.
I don't support all the policies
coming from this administration. Do I think Bush is a good president, yes! Do I think he's great? No, because, personally, he's not been conservative enough for me. To me, Ronald Reagan was great. He was tough, but he still made people like him. Bush not been tough enough on some issues.....however, that's never here or there. I have always freely said that I don't agree with everything coming from the Republican party. I'm a conservative first, Republican second, but as the days go on I am becoming more and more a Libertarian. I will still vote Republican, because I think that's where my vote has the most value, but if the Libertarian movement becomes more of a contender, believe me, I'm going to catch that wave.
I said all that to say this.....I never generalized when it came to Democrats when it came to Clinton in office, because, being from the South where there are still a lot of old Southern Democrats (and, gasp, I was one for several years believe it or not...) I knew all Democrats did not stand behind some of the Clinton policies. There were some Clinton policies I did like, although as a presidential role model he drug the office of president through the mud.....
To me it seems that liberals are all or nothing in hating Bush, but if there are some liberals out that who like Bush speak up and prove that generalization wrong 
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support of Kyoto
The European Union and Canada have signed. There are northeastern states that have created an initiative which would cap emissions and put pressure on the federal govt to support Kyoto. New York is one of them, Maine is another. There are also cities and other states that support Kyoto. Los Angeles is one of them, so is Utah, Texas, Seattle. I think altogether there is about 160 cities and states supporting the Kyoto protocol.
Can you provide support for this
All the research I have seen says that ectopic pregnancies cannot survive, that an embryo must be in the uterus to thrive. I would love to see some support/back up of this if you have any (I am honestly curious, not trying to be difficult!)
Thanks.
I didn't think I could support him more!
But after watching him take the bunch of rotten lemons he was tossed and seeing him transform them into delicious, healthy lemonade, he even surprised me! 
Show our support
A friend sent this to me........ but like she said, please don't do this! It's just all in good fun....
Show Your Support
It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.
If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.
If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights off at night.
I Support Obama
I'm for Obama in my words and deeds. I'm 58 years old and this is the first time that I've actively participated in a campaign. I always vote in presidential elections, but in the past it has been for the most part a perfunctory action. This campaign though, I feel that I'm an important cog in the wheel that can turn our nation in a better, more fair, more uplifting direction. This is the first time I have ever donated my hard earned money to a campaign. I have been sending $25 a month to the Obama campaign since January. It's not much, but I find it empowering to know that by combining my little bit with thousands of other like-minded individuals' "little bits" to support a candidate who cares about those of us who are not rich and priviledged, we might be able to get our concerns addressed in the halls of power.
Yes, I know that the president does not run this country by himself, but I am hopeful that an intelligent man of integrity such as Senator Obama will be able to figure out how to persuade those in power to work with him in our interest.
I have read both of Senator Obama's books and I am convinced of his honesty, integrity and intelligence. I have read the information available on his website http://www.barackobama.com. I am especially impressed with his common sense ideas about simplifying and making our income tax system more equitable.
Also, his ideas for making insurance coverage affordable for all Americans makes a lot of sense to me.
I am convinced that the only voters who do not support Obama must be the ones who have not taken the time to get to know this amazing man.
Not hardly. I am glad for her support....
but unlike the rest of you, I do not post to support myself. I do have the courage of my convictions and all the bullying and badmouthing you all throw my way only makes me more determined. So pile it on, bullies, pile it on. apparently that is what you need to feel empowered and relevant. Go ahead, knock your socks off. If you are raggin on me you are letting someone else rest.
only 24% of us support the bailout
Yesterday it was reported only 24% of Americans support the bailout, 56% are opposed so 20% have no opinion. Senators' and reps' offices were flooded with calls and emails all day asking that the bailout be opposed. And I was one of those. Everyone should be contacting their own reps to express their opinions. That's they only way they will know what the people want.
Show our support
Show your support. The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. So: To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we
all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike and let our candidates know we are behind them.
So, until the election, if you support the policies and character of Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights on during the day. If you support John McCain, please drive with your headlights off at
night.
Thank you for your participation in this patriotic endeavor! Let's let our candidates know we are behind them.
Encouragement and support???.
that sounds nice and comfy, but you sure can't deposit that in the bank.
You are right I did not know but I am not apologizing....I am saying we should not support him (sm)
That is amazing that in this country we do not even realize that there were so many Irish slaves. But I did know that slavery has gone on practically forever and has involved all races. You missed my entire point. My point was that we do NOT deserve to be punished now for what people did in the past and that it is unfair for others to be prejudiced against anyone of any race, including Obama and his church being prejudiced against whites.
How can they support the child
if the child is aborted? Quite a few women get pregnant and have abortions without even saying anything to the father...
Keeping pants zipped goes both ways...
I used to support Obama
Then the light popped on...duh, duh! I don't know who all these people are that do all these polls on the news every day, but I've never taken one of them. Neither have all of my sisters, my mother, my entire family! We're all MCCAIN SUPPORTERS! There are those of us out here who haven't been accounted for, so don't be so quick to give Obama his win. MCCAIN IS A PATRIOT! He is a true American...to the core! He will defend this country and stand up for it. Obama's making candy promises to lure in his voters. You're all in for a bit let-down if he does win. All my prayers are going out to Senator McCain these last few days. God's word - "The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective." KEEP PRAYING FOR MCCCAIN!
Do you know why other countries support O?
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Why is it just because we don't support Obama
we are all of a sudden pubs?
I guess I was a little misleading in my "we" statements. Sorry.
But on another note, I don't consider myself a pub. I guess I would be independent. Heck this was the first year I could even vote in a presidential election. I really didn't care much for Bush. I actually liked Clinton a little (until Monica). I think Hillary only stayed with Bill for the sake of running for president.
If a central, Christian, black woman ran from the democrats who didn't just pander to what the lefts want, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat! I don't care that he's black, white, or polka dotted! He is to liberal, and I think his agenda is to further what DEMOCRATS want, not what AMERICANS want. When he shows me he can reach across the aisle and start working with ALL sides, then I will start to trust him.
So far, not good.
We have four years to right the wrongs in our party. He has about two months to build a team of advisors. I suggest he chooses very wisely if he hopes to garner the support of us "bible thumping conservatives".
And I pray to God that he rethinks the FOCA. I know abortion won't be abolished completely, but it should at least be up to the individual state!
Well, I did't support McCain either but
running around in Harlem saying how happy they were with Obama's pick of Palin as his VP was any indication of where Obama is on the food chain, God help him. That food chain must have started below ground level to begin with.
Since when do politicians support
a group or say they do and then turn around and crap on that group or break promises they made to that group. I think that kind of goes hand in hand with politics. LOL!
Honestly, do you really think Barrack Obama is crapping on the homosexual community because he asked Rick Warren to do this? It isn't changing any laws. To me it looks like a liberal reaching his hand across the aisle to a conservative. To me this shows that even though they may not have the exact same opinions, they can still do something together. Isn't that what we are all about. Reaching across the aisle to show that even though we don't agree, we can still work together. Yet all people can see is this being a bashing session against gay people.
I don't agree with homosexuality. However, if they want some kind of legal union.....whatever. That is about as equal rights as I am going to lean for the gay community. I have gay friends who have no problem leaving the definition of marriage between a man and woman.....as long as they can be joined together legally...that is all that matters to them. I just feel that the ones who are trying to redefine marriage is dead wrong. Leave marriage between a man and woman and give homosexuals some sort of legal union.
This changing every tradition to accommodate every single minority group is what, in my opinion, is hurting our country. All these minority groups want equal rights but in doing that.....they take away from the majority. How much more should the majority have to sacrifice?
I would say MAINTAINING support.
You have my support, Human........
Sh*t happens, whether we like it or not. I'm in the same boat you are. We still have 2 houses, still making the mortgage payments but our ability to do that for how long is in question......fortunately, we didn't buy what we couldn't afford and my kids pay the mortgage on the 2nd house. I don't know what is going to happen to me because we have no healthcare coverage right now (waiting for income tax return to pay COBRA) and my cancer has not been treated since October.......I guess we will see what happens...good luck to you!
I would love to support O but he
believes anyone making over $250K is rich and he is trying to hurt the very people who make this country work.
I'm not bashing him, but I think he is totally wrong in what he is doing. Trickle down does work in a way, but trickle up will never work. Those that have spend more than those that don't.
What he should focus on is those companies that moved oversears to save their profits but then, again, you have the problem of NAFTA and tax loopholes , not the American companies who are trying to survive in a global economy while staying in the U.S.
Obama is focusing on the poor, not the people who make this country work. That is the reason he won the election and those who are on the bottom of the ladder (the poor, welfare recpients, etc.) could not and do not, understand how the country works or what government is all about, and voted for him because he was going to cure all their problems.
Hey, I need a car, but do I rely on government to give me that car? No. I try to figure out how to get one myself. Why can't the rest of the country do that? BECAUSE they think the government should solve our problems. That's not the way it should work. We have to do it ourselves and only rely on the government when necessary, which includes losing our job for a few months, but bouy us for those few months until we find another one, etc. Understand what I'm saying?
Okay....I don't have to like him or support him, but he IS MY President....
sorry, but that is a goofy statement. I do love and support my country, and you are right, I don't like him, I don't trust him, I don't like where he is taking my country, I did not vote for him, and he is not MY President. If he is YOUR President...great. Not mine, so long as this remains a FREE country, but with him at the reins, who knows???
I never said I didn't support the troops!
You took what I said way out of context. I support the troops, I just want to know when it will be over. I want to know when our government will start to pay attention to OUR country instead of going around trying to fix everyone ELSE'S problems. I have a brother in the military...in Iraq. I never said I didn't support them. Unfortunately for them, they don't have a say in what they are having to do.
Scary that you would support either of those candidates.
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Out of curiousity...which candidate do you support for the...
nomination?
Add a support the troops magnet
to your car and you have my vote! Oops, aren't they made in China?
Many Republicans support the bill, but
A professor on the Oprah show posed this question:
"Do you believe that the child of a gas station attendant and the child of an investment banker deserve the same healthcare?"
I hope all Americans believe that they do deserve the same access to healthcare and that we are willing to do what it takes to get affordable healthcare to our most helpless citizens. Many middle-class families struggle to pay health insurance premiums (sometimes over $1000 per month), and if the President doesn't veto this bill, it will be a beautiful day in American history!!! I'll be prayin & crossin my fingers!
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