Can I offer you some Kool-Aid?
Posted By: It'll fix what ails you. nm on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: It's a sad day. I feel sick. - NM
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So you can't translate this either? All you have to offer is
Please elaborate.
Than offer something constructive...
instead of whining about what you don't like. That's all we hear is whining and complaining without any solutions or suggestion that you feel would be a better way to go. Not only that, are you privy to the same information that President and Obama and his cabinet are privy to? Are you qualified to pass judgment on anything that he does when you don't have all the facts? Would you like some cheese with your whine?
If the information she has to offer upsets you this much...
....perhaps you should debate with the folks on the conservative board who will agree with you and pat you on the back. Perhaps your anger with gt is not about her, but about you (to paraphrase the mental health folks).
May I be the first to offer resounding bipartisan
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Every time we offer a suggestion
we get laughed at and told we are asking for handouts.
I still believe that the best way to revive the banks is to go through the homeowners. Isn't bailing out and giving money to the big buisnesses still essentially trickle down economics? It's going to take too long for this stimulus to reach the average citizen. By then too many people will be without a job/home/food, etc.
So you have nothing to offer when it comes to defending Bennett's statements...sm
as you posted earlier that they were taken out of context. When asked to enlighten us on the context, you instead want to take Zauber to task. I know why, because there is no defense for these statements and a sound minded person wouldn't even try. Even the dupes on capitol hill are criticizing the statements.
Yeah, I'll BET you "work with" them. You offer
away from any others that might be out there. I've seen your kind practicing what amounts to terrorism in front of our local Planned Parenthood clinic.
Based on all the propaganda you've been spewing the last week or so, I don't believe one word of what you just wrote about 'helping' women.
You so-called 'pro-life' enthusiasts are just a buncha self-righteous, old-world, Bible-belt hags, nothing more.
What facts did you just offer to encourage me to vote your way? nm
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But they didn't offer racism and bigotry....
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In a prior post I made the following offer:
.....no amount of money would induce me to volunteer to be tortured (you know, beaten cut, burned - severe pain or harm). But cut me a check (certified only, please) with a number followed by a whole lot of zeros and I would be waterboarded (strictly in the interest of science). Our special forces are trained to withstand this and other 'harsh' interrigation techniques...... It's scary and unpleasant but way different from having your fingernails pulled out or a field generator and alligator clips used.
I had in mind more like $500,000, but yeah, for enough money I would certainly consider that an offer I couldn't refuse.
dr's urge america to accept cuba's offer
Doctors Urge US To Accept Cuba's Offer Of 1586
Disaster-Trained Doctors
By Ken Thomas
Associated Press Writer
9-8-5
ATLANTA (PRNewswire) -- A prominent U.S. medical group
voiced deep concern over delays in health care and
epidemic prevention reaching Katrina victims, and
urged U.S. authorities to accept Cuba's offer of 1586
disaster-trained physicians to prevent a second wave
of sickness and death.
Latest reports indicate the U.S. State Department is
backing away from the offer, implying they are not
needed.
Up to this point, there been a clear need for more
medical help for Katrina victims, said Peter Bourne,
MD, Chairman of MEDICC and former special adviser on
health in the Carter White House and former Assistant
Secretary General at the United Nations. The Cuban
physicians are accustomed to working in difficult
third-world conditions without the resources and
supplies most of us are accustomed to. Since they are
just an hour away, it is a shame that they have not
been allowed to join our committed medical corps
already.
He is joined by other physicians, medical educators,
international health experts and a former U.S. surgeon
general associated with MEDICC, Medical Education
Cooperation with Cuba. From 1998 through 2004, MEDICC
has provided medical electives in Cuba for nearly 1000
students and faculty from 118 U.S. medical, public
health and nursing schools.
Cuba has been recognized by the UN, Oxfam and other
international organizations as a leader in disaster
response, expertise that could be saving lives now,
said Doctor William Keck, former long-time director of
the Akron, Ohio Department of Public Health.
A 2004 Oxfam Report, Weathering the Storm: Lessons in
Risk Reduction from Cuba, states that there are real
lessons to be learned from Cuba on how to safeguard
lives during extreme natural disasters, including
getting medical attention to vulnerable populations.
The report can be found at
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/cuba.
On Tuesday, August 30, Cuba first offered U.S.
authorities hurricane relief in the form of 1100
disaster-trained bilingual physicians, each equipped
with 52-pound pound backpacks of medical supplies,
including rehydration therapy, insulin,
anti-hypertensives, and medications for systemic and
topical infections.
On Saturday, September 3, Cuba increased the offer to
1586 doctors, ready for immediate deployment and
prepared to stay as long as necessary to help wherever
needed. A Cuban spokesperson said that as of today
there has been no official response from the U.S.
government.
Cuban disaster relief experience spans 45 years,
mainly in hurricanes faced by the Caribbean island and
in coping with disasters confronted by other
developing countries. Another nearly 25,000 Cuban
health professionals provide longer-term health care
services in 68 countries, under
government-to-government agreements.
Cuba trains 10,500 medical students from 27 countries
at its Latin American Medical School -- 65 of them
from poor and minority communities in the USA. (See
The New England Journal of Medicine, 2004;
351:2680-82.)
What an irony that the first U.S. MD to graduate from
the school this August is a young African American
from New Orleans, said Diane Appelbaum, RN, NP, MS.
He just passed the U.S. medical boards and is eager
to fulfill the commitment he made in exchange for his
free education from Cuba to serve the very
poverty-stricken areas now devastated.
For additional first-hand reports and interviews from
Cuba, please see MEDICC's on-line journal, MEDICC
Review at http://www.medicc.org, Archives, Vol VI, No.
3, 2004 Disaster Management in Cuba: Reducing the
Risk.
MEDICC (Medical Education Cooperation with Cuba) is a
non-profit organization based in Atlanta. MEDICC is
committed to maintaining institutional and educational
links between the U.S. and Cuban medical communities.
MEDICC publishes the English-language journal MEDICC
Review, reporting on Cuba's medical and public health
programs, available at
http://www.medicc.org.
Remarkable how a child's viewpoint can often offer wisdom
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You call that an excuse? There are plenty of churches that offer those things!! nm
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So we offer substandard wages and attract more people to welfare???...sm
More of your tax dollars are being spent there than at McDonalds or whatever, if we do not get more people working, we also have LESS people paying into the tax system, both federal and state, which subsidises OTHER necessitites. And people complain about the immigrant workers taking jobs? Because of substandard wages and the increased benefit of being on Welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, and Medicaide, it seems only immigrants WANT to do these insultingly low-paying jobs. I am talking about a wage where a family can be together, both parents are not working two jobs, and thus not taking care of the kids, another social problem, and employed taxpayers are also CONSUMERS who drive the economy, but if you are not making a living wage, you cannot participate in the economy. How is this wrong?
how about kool-aid?
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Kool-Aid
You do realize Kool-Aid was a term started by the Pubs to laugh at you? Why are you using our lines? Get your own!
kool aid
This phrase seems to mean making a horribly bad decision and doing the decision. Those poor people at Jonestown were deceived into suicide by an evil man.
Does Kool-Aid
come in chianti flavor?
tastes like.....Kool-Aid
Big gulp, come on..it tastes almost as good as the republican Kool-Aid that you'all have been drinking for years..here, I can even flavor it if you want..some Sweet and Lo and it tastes just like republican Kool-Aid..you know the stuff that makes your mind go all blank and then think only conservative hurtful to America ways.
drink the kool aid
Thank you for your post! They drink the Kool-Aid, dont ya know? They are brain washed. To come up with an independent idea would be something they could not do.. As much as I look on neocons with distain I actually pity them. What a narrow look on life they have..so sad..
Bush Kool-Aid.nm
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Just don't drink the Kool Aid...sm
I don't want ice cream either.....lactose intolerant, don't ya know.
I see the Kool Aid is working. nm
Soon, Kool-Aid may be all you can afford.
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Oh brother - get off the kool-aid
This is even weirder than the OP message.
Where's that icon of someone throwing up!
Whether we drank the kool-aid or not........sm
we still have to put up with this lame excuse for an administration. Granted, that is the case regardless of the party in office, but what we are up against is a pretty dismal prospect. It's gonna be a long 4 years.
Okay,kool-aid drinker......
I suppose you're gonna tell me giving free birth control and condoms will create jobs too? You don't need the government to create your jobs; well, maybe you believe we do, but that is not what this country is all about. Government spending money has NEVER helped us before; you suddenly think that will change anything?
This is a pork barrel spending plan............this is no stimulus plan.....
Please stop repeating Obama's words. Think for yourself.
Just because O grins sarcastically and says the words, doesn't mean a thing positive except he has white teeth.......geeeze!
MORE GOVERNMENT = MORE TAXES = MORE SOCIAL PROGRAM = MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL = MORE DEBT = NOTHING GOOD FOR THE WORKING CLASS or even the idiots who don't know they've been had!
Whose been drinking the kool-aid now?
Whoever told you Democrats do not believe in the same things you listed above as the so called right-wing "true patriots?"
The people perpetrating these misconceptions are the traitors.
People can be Democrats or Republicans and ...gasp...even independents and still be patriots.
We can agree or disagree - THAT is what this country was founded on and THAT is what makes us great.
"Cyanide in the kool-aid?"....sm
as in political genocide? Hmmm.....now who does that remind me of......
Kool-aid drinkers. nm
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Obviously..keep drinking the kool-aid, BB.
I'd like to know what kool-aid she was drinking!!
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Drink some more Kool-Aid!!
Freeze...step away from the Kool-Aid. nm
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Yes, God deliver us from the evil Kool-Aid
Wow, you've really drank the kool-aid
I say that because you honestly don't think there's a terror threat in the world. You seem to think that everything that happens in the world is a scheme concocted by some shadow government. You can't deal with the reality that there are evil people in the world who actually want to hurt people. Well, you do believe that, but you think it's your own government. While I do believe there is some of element of corruption in all governments I do not believe my government is generating terror threats. The terror threat did not come from with the U.S. this time. It came from Great Brittain. It has also happened in Spain and other non-U.S.-run governments. I'm sorry you are so deluded by conspiracy theories that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
I'll pass on the kool-aid (nm)
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kool-aid drinkers? Obama did a lot more than
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They are drinking that Kool Aid that suspends...
reality and keeps them from understanding anything bigger than hope and change, can't see the forest for the trees. It may be nice to sit back and watch the debacle that is sure to come once O is the new dicta...sorry, president. We will have the last laugh; too bad the country is going to suffer even more before any one of them wises up.
Hmmm...Kool-Aid or lemons?
We will continue drinking Kool-Aid, and you can continue sucking on lemons. Who do you think will be happier? By the way, sucking lemons makes you a sourpuss!
Boy, talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.
Israel would not even exist were it not for western powers high-jack of historical Palestine dating back thousands of years. They have been sustained by US tax dollars from the get go and absent that, they would be consumed by all the hatred they and their accomplices have generated over the past 60 years with their neighbors, since nobody on the face of the earth other than the imperial global bully would think of propping up its barbarism.
You can quote your Holy book all you want and they will quote theirs. Neither side will score any semblance of lasting peace in that futile exercise, especially since they originated from the same pooled blood of the Semitic tribes, and besides, this is not 1000 BC. No amount of preaching is going to make a dent in this disaster.
The only squatters in Palestine these days are the greedy settlers who cannot be satisfied with their own real estate agreed upon in Peace Accord, but then again history shows us that the Zionists could not keep their own word if their lives depended on it. They are now continuing their land grab within the shrunken borders of the West Bank, with their most violent factions being found in Hebron, where they pillage and murder with impunity. I've got video, if you are interested.
God was taken WAY out of this equation in 1948.
If you doubt my word, just let me know and I will post a link to a 9+-minute raw video out of Gaza showing the aftermath of one of Israeli's air raids on an open market full of families and not a militant in sight. Featured there are women, children, teens and elders writhing in piles of human carnage on a field piled high with human body parts, some remains no bigger than a 3rd-grader's back pack. But a word of caution, the video is not for the faint at heart. Do not view if you have just recently eaten and NEVER play it in the presence of children. Better still, Google it yourself..."Gaza Massacre market" and select the third hit from Sabbah TV, then get back to me and show me where God is in that clip.
some of us only saw a mob of slackeyed kool aid drinkers at that
the vast majority of them, that is.
These guys don't drink Kool-Aid.
Here ya go. Just a few examples for you to mull over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAieKGwQp-s
In the flesh interview with Dr. Larry Hunter, influential conservative economist, talks about why he endorses Obama. Interview starts @ 1:25 into the clip.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-01-08-obama-economy_N.htm
Conservative economist Martin Feldstein agrees that "reviving the economy requires a major fiscal stimulus from tax cuts and increased government spending."
For now, most conservative Republicans who could try to block the new Democratic president's plan are willing to boost red ink. Armed with an electoral mandate and faced with a mammoth recession, Obama is being given a wide berth by the GOP. "We need to govern," says Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. "These issues are so huge and are going to have such a devastating impact on our nation if they're not aggressively and boldly addressed, that we can't afford for this just to be a party-line event."
... but even conservative economists agree a huge stimulus package with a variety of spending initiatives is needed. "I have just two words: big and everything," says Martin Regalia, VP, Economic and Tax Policy and chief economist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49U3DC20081031
The endorsement from the Economist (a virtual bastion of conservatives) raised a few eyebrows.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx
This kind of support is at least as significant as that of conservative economists.
Do you work in the Kool Aid Factory?
Or just distribute its products?
Me too - I told her don't forget the kool-aid
We need a good sense of humor to get through the next four years.
Pretty expensive kool aid, isn't it? sm
He is telling Congress that if they don't pass this $900B+ package that we may never dig our way out of this hole we are in. I highly doubt that, but I wonder if so much damage has alraedy been done that we won't see an end in our lifetime.
Not that it amounts to a hill of beans at this point, but I'm sure glad I didn't vote for him.
Put down the Kool Aid...now drink you O juice...
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Sorry, but Kool-Aid works both ways.
You can drink Republican Kool-Aid or Democratic Kool-Aid, it just depends on who is serving it.
Using the phrase "drinking Kool-Aid"
On November 18, 1978, 909 inhabitants of Jonestown, 276 of them children, died of apparent cyanide poisoning, mostly in and around a pavilion. This resulted in the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the September 11, 2001 attacks. Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (often misidentified as Kool-Aid) along with a sedative.
Out of respect for the nearly 1000 innocent Christians who tragically died in Jonestown, I would like to ask the posters of this forum to find another phrase to use other than "drinking Kool-Aid" to describe a person's political beliefs. It is insulting and disrespectful to the memory of those that died in Jonestown to use this expression so flippantly.
JMHO
Wow -- talk about someone having drunk the Kool-Aid. nm
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Your Kool Aid is tainted....drink something healthy!..nm
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