CNN: DEAD WRONG Saturday and Sunday
Posted By: PK on 2006-06-17
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I would strongly recommend watching this program. It's on CNN Saturday and Sunday nights. It describes just how and why Bush went to war in Iraq and how nothing was going to stop him and how he was DEAD WRONG.
I feel so bad for Colin Powell, a man of real honesty and integrity, who got mixed up with the *wrong crowd* in Washington.
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I'm dead wrong, Chronicles IS in my Bible....
slaps self *lol* - we might be of the same faith.....that name *hussein* freaks me right out too!!! Numero uno.....*hahahaha*
It's better off dead than dead AND rude and OBNOXIOUS.
Please respect the monitor's rules, even though you think they're stupid.
ABC debate on Saturday
Good Monday morning!
Looking for feedback from those who actually watched the debate on Saturday. I only got to watch the last hour of the democrats which was intersesting. I caught the regurgitated news afterward but am looking more for personal opinions.
Thanks!
Is it Saturday where you live too? nm
Some political comedy for a Saturday.
I pulled this from a diary from the Daily Kos, made me giggle. Some of it is arguable of course, but grossly true nonetheless. It is a list of how conservatism and communism are the same.
1. Anti-Environmentalism Radicalism. (Cons put the economic interests of the corporation first. Communists the economic interests of the govt bureaucracy first. The rest of us put the people first.)
2. Anti-Middle Class Tax policies (This is at the cornerstone of both philosophies. Sadly, conservatism is worse.)
3. Boy Scout/Pioneer type groups for children. Compare the right wing forces behind the Boy Scouts and the Communist programs of their Pioneers. They're mirror images of each other.
4. Bureaucrats Making Medical Decisions (HMO bureaucrats are basically the same thing as communist health care bureaucrats. The rest of us want doctors and patients making these decisions.)
5. Censorship
6. Civil Rights Opposition
7. Death Penalty Fanaticism - Granted there are many progressives, liberals, and moderates who support this but it is usually communists and conservatives who are most gung ho about the death penalty.
8. Excessive and Unwarranted Use of Military Force. War is profitable, peace is not. Both philosophies also tend to distrust people.
9. Flag Desecration means jail.
10. Govt Owns A Woman's Womb Yep, even on abortions the communists believe they control a woman's womb.
11. Habeas Corpus Denial
12. Illegal Wiretapping of Citizens
13. Immigration Hostility - Both philosophies tend to be distrustful of immigrants and seek to deny newcomers opportunities.
14. Individual Rights Denying - Both philosophies hate the individual and don't believe in individual rights.
15. Lack of Due Process.
16. Media Consolidation.
17. No Right To Privacy.
18. Occupational Safety Denying -
19. Orphanages That Suck - Compare Newt Served Wife With Divorce Papers While In Hospital Bed Undergoing Cancer Treatment Gingrich's plan for orphanages to the communists plan for orphanages. Both support run down abuse centers straight out of Oliver Twist.
20. Patriotism Misdefined-- Both define it in terms of shallow symbols and blind nationalism.
21. Police Abuse and Brutality - Both conservatives and communists oppose good cops and instead want to see law enforcement run by rogue cops who misuse their public positions for political witchhunts.
22. Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
23. Rote Learning In Education (NCLB's teach to the test curriculum is Soviet communism education revamped.)
24. sex police - Both philosophies want to regulate consenting private sexual activity between adults.
25. Sexism -- Both philosophies tend to view women as inferiors out of the twisted Victorian era and not as equals.
26. Tort Rights Destruction -- (including govt bureaucrats not jurors making decisions, denying plaintiffs access to courts, and loser pay schemes)
27. Torture
28. Underfunding of Schools
29. Unions -- Both philosophies oppose democratic unions.
30. Voter Rights Denying - both oppose free, fair, and honest elections where all adults are registered to vote and their votes are accurately counted.
31. Wasteful Defense Spending - Both philosophies actually oppose strong national defense. Instead they support using the military budge as a welfare distribution center for cronies and unnecessary expenses.
32. Welfare For The Well Connected Neither philosophy believes in merit or opportunity. It's about power and using that power to reward your cronies and ass lickers.
33. Workplace Discrimination Permitted - Both philosophies believe that govt bureaucrats and corporate management may discriminate against their workers for illegal reasons and the screwed employees shall have no recourse.
Saturday night we had a benefit
bean supper in our community...guess who cooked the beans? The menu was pinto beans with ham hocks, fried 'taters, cornbread and fruit cobblers. Us downhome folks, about a hundred of us, ate ourselves silly. Only thing missing was the turnip greens. I don't care much for possum, too fat, but if it comes to eating it or going hungry I 'spect I'll develop a better taste for it.
Saturday cartoons: Some real good ones, too.
Scroll down a little.
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/
Sunday's Score @6:08 pm
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13181.html
Just don't use the Sunday circulars.... sm
Slick paper....no good! LOL
Sunday Satire
In light of the breaking news this weekend with AIG and their now planning to pay millions in bonuses to the crooks of their corporation and the news from their lips that they have sent their taxpayer bailout money to overseas concerns, I thought this article too, too pertinent to ignore. Below are some excerpts. Full article can be read at
http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com/2009/03/sunday-satire.html
American intelligence experts are analyzing a new terror video from the American International Group (AIG) in which the leader of the shadowy organization demands billions of dollars from the United States. "If we are not paid billions more in bonuses and corporate golf retreats, America will be made to suffer," the man threatens.
Reacting to the video, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano raised the nation's terror alert level to orange, meaning "taxpayers are about to get reamed again."
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also released a response to AIG's latest demands, but intelligence experts said they would need several weeks to decipher Mr. Geithner's response.
no rest for the wicked, even on...... Sunday....
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or your Sunday go to meetin' clothes...nm
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He's a walk in the park at a Sunday picnic
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I LOVE their Sunday crossward puzzle! nm
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Fox New Program on Obama - Sunday night 10/12
HELLO EVERYONE: IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!
>
> SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY
> IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE
> STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING
> TO DO THIS. HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING
EVEN
> THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS,
Etc.,
> HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV.
> WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all
> know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE
> STATES! HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL
SEE
> THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.&nb sp;
THIS
> WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
> HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE
> PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~ SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.
>
> HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS
> AMERICAN'S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA !! THIS
> IS SERIOUS,EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO
> YOU ARE VOTING FOR, BUT IF YOU CAN, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU
> KNOW. THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY. MY PRAYER IS
THAT WE, ALONG WITH
> SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th. WE MUST NOT
> GIVE UP!!!
You act like one of those Sunday only Christians...rest of the week
too many hypocrites like yourself there.
A kleenex for you, Sunday...nasty sounding cold there....
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Maybe they'll be serving up Sunday-go-to-meeting dinner
all the fried chicken, ribs, hog jowls, chit'lins, collard greens, fried okree, black-eye-peas, conebread, hush puppies, Aunt Jemimas, buttermilk biscuits, fried grits, watermelon and sweet potato pie (O's favorite) you can eat....and save you from slaving over that hot stove all day. Keep us posted on the minutes.
FOR LIBERALS ONLY: 60 Minutes Interviews Iranian President Sunday.
I am looking forward to watching this interview because I am truly interested in hearing what this man has to say.
I can recall as a child growing up to the tune of We have to fight Vietnam because the Communists want to take over the world. During those times, the worst thing a person could be called in the USA was a Communist.
It seems to me these days the USA is the one that wants to take over the world. It has no respect for any government that cares about its poor people or even America's poor, for that matter. (For example, Chavez tried to provide cheap oil to the poor last winter while Bush didn't care if poor Americans froze to death.) Any country that removes the profit incentive from medicine or education for its citizens is a terrorist nation in Bush's eyes. We're quickly approaching the day when most of us will be poor as the middle class continues to disintegrate before our eyes.
I am suspect of everyone Bush labels as terrorist these days, and I want to hear both sides. Bush refuses to sit down diplomatically and listen to what Ahmadinejad has to say, so I'm grateful that Mike Wallace took the time to do so.
wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Any problem with 300,000 dead due to another lie?
Clinton lie: Shameful, tsk tsk.
Bush/Rove lies: Massive death and destruction and maiming, depleted uranium poisoning of an entire nation and generations to come, collapse of the only secular nation in the region which is now heading for a fundamentalist Islamic regime. We could go on for pages.
Now come on, get real. How can you even compare the two? It's just absurd. And none of this ooh you can't PROVE he lied! The proof was provided by the Downing Street memos if you want hard copy, and thousands of other sources if you'd just open your eyes and look at/hear them and use some common sense. Just look at where this war has gone for all the proof you need.
Sheez almighty, after what this administration has done to America and the rest of the world, and there are still people harping about Clinton's dirty little lie that harmed no one and would never have even been a public event if not for the entire frame-up for which the Wrong Right was responsible in the first place. You don't think they have their own dirty little secrets? Please. Their vendetta wasn't righteous, it was the highest form of stinking hypocrisy the American public has ever had forced down their throats.
pssst....two more words....BASE CLOSINGS. Remember when gutting the military was the battle scream of the day? Oooh, you hated him for that! What a scoundrel, presiding over a few base closures during peacetime (on schedule with the plan REAGAN devised, and argued for by Cheney).Now they tell you in the midst of the largest round of base closings ever in the history of America - during wartime!!! - that it's streamlining. It's all good. Just part of the Wrong Right legacy of telling you when to be enraged and when to smile and nod.
wishing you dead? Me?
Sweetie, I dont want anyone dead and I mourn the dead in the gulf due to our governments inactivity..I dont wish you dead, I wish no one dead..I want us all to be happy and one as a nation and world..I want happiness, I want peace, I want contentment..However, if you attack me personally, I most certainly will stand my ground..because I am not a fool.
2000 dead: How many is
2000 Dead: How Many Is Too Many?
By Mike Hoffman
When I left for the Middle East in February 2003 with a Marine artillery unit, I was told Iraq was in possession of weapons of mass destruction, had been assisting Al Qaeda, was partly responsible for 9/11 and was an imminent threat to the United States and Iraq’s neighbors.
We destroyed Iraq’s under-equipped and demoralized military – the imminent threat to our nation -- in a little over a month. Since the invasion, no weapons inspection team has found evidence of any weapons of mass destruction and the claims that Saddam Hussein was working with Al Qaeda have been shown to be nonsense. When I left Iraq for home in May 2003, after President Bush told us “Mission Accomplished,” 139 Americans had died.
After the invasion was over and the occupation began, Iraqis didn’t throw flowers and candy at our feet. Instead roadside bombs and ambushes awaited us down every street. The administration said we were about to turn a corner. We were told that once Saddam and his sons were captured or killed the insurgents would give up, demoralized by the loss of their leader; peace would reign. By the time Saddam was captured in December 2003, 463 Americans had died in Iraq.
The capture of Saddam had no effect, and daily attacks against American forces and Iraqi security forces continued. It was during this time that the bloody Shiite Rebellion occurred. This was some of the fiercest fighting yet in Iraq. Even with this rebellion happening, we were told there was still hope. Sovereignty would soon be handed over to the Iraqis and another corner would be turned. But we needed to stay and provide the Iraqis security until we could “officially” turn the country back over to them. This would empower the Iraqis and end the Insurgency. By then, June 2004, 958 had come home in boxes.
Most Iraqis didn’t seem to care they had sovereignty, since we still occupied their country. They were still without electricity and faced an average unemployment rate of 70%. Every time US soldiers walked outside the wire they were still taking their lives in their hands. Then, we were told, elections would fix this. The Iraqis would have their own government in place and begin drafting a constitution. This would demoralize the terrorists and end the fighting. On the day of the elections, January 30, 2005, the U.S. death toll was 1,537.
What’s wrong with this picture?
The first time we were told the war was over we had lost 139 American; now we have lost 2,000 American lives in Iraq. Time and time again we are told things are getting better, that we have “turned a corner.”
In the Viet Nam War we didn’t “turn corners;” instead policy makers talked about the “light at the end of the tunnel.” We know now that by 1968 President Johnson knew there was no light at the end of the tunnel; he knew his war was lost. The Pentagon Papers showed this; Robert McNamara admits it today. Over 22,000 American troops died in Viet Nam after 1968 in a war our leaders knew was hopeless and just piling up American and Asian bodies.
Again, there is no light at the end of the tunnel, and we’ve turned so many corners we’re going in circles. Our leaders know they can’t win this war, but, like Johnson and McNamara, they refuse to admit it to the American people. Meanwhile, our troops remain a huge provocative force in the region and each individual soldier a prized target. Failure to face this reality is exacerbating the current chaos in Iraq and preventing real regional diplomatic solutions.
So the question falls to ordinary Americans: How many more brave men and women are we willing to sacrifice before we force our leaders to bring the troops home? I pray that it does not take another 56,000 like it did in Viet Nam.
Mike Hoffman was a lance corporal in a Marine artillery unit during the invasion of Iraq. He is a member of Iraq Veterans Against The War.
Fox is #1 among the BRAIN DEAD
LOL - studies have proven FOX viewers to be significantly LESS informed about current events than ANY of the other networks (though they are all back)...
FOX tells the brain-dead WHAT THEY WANT to hear -
THEY DISTORT, YOU REPEAT.
Hey, I think I hear Bill O'LIEly calling you!
NOT DEAD, NOT COLD JUST
tired of watching you run around making up jobs for yourself and causes that you can't do anything about in a way that will cause change. Why are you so certain that our soldiers are bad? What makes you so sure those children will be victims of "war crimes?" Think about that for a moment. You must have a really low opinion of most American soldiers.
I have children and let me assure you that even were I dead or my husband dead and they were 12 and tried to kill others I would feel like they would have to be accountable for what they had done. That is because I brought them up to be accountable. They were when they were 12 and they are today.
My words may be unacceptable to you, but are acceptable to many others. I have to tell you that I am related to some of those people by marriage and they have no love for us, no appreciation of who we are, what we want, what we give, or anything about us. They want to control us and take what we have. The males OWN the children and OWN their wives and those children and wives better do what they are told and nothing you can do personally can change their viewpoint in a timely enough manner to make a difference.
Comparing our culture with theirs and what we would do and want is futile. You cannot even imagine the true depths of their hatred of us unless you are close to them, are related to them, or live with them. We have chosen not to associate with or speak with any of them because after 20 years of beating your head on a wall you tend to tire out and move along to something you can do that will work. I personally try to focus on things closer to home that I can and do work on, causes for which I can make a difference and which will not wear me out in the process. Sometimes after you have exhausted yourself, your ideas, and every avenue you can think of to effect change it is best to walk away if you want to have anything left of yourself.
There are dead beat
dads all over, white, black, hispanic, etc. Honestly, there are a lot of dead beat moms out there too.
One thing I don't get and maybe I don't get cause I'm white.....but Jesse Jackson made a comment about Obama not doing anything about blacks in prison. What the heck is Obama supposed to do? I mean....you do the crime.....you do the time. So what is it that Obama is supopsed to do here.....or anyone for that matter?
Dead-end dialog
The phrase "sending up a prayer" is not your exclusive property and no, that is not the cliche I was speaking of. Just another sign of how shallowing your thinking really is and how next to impossible it seems for you to "catch my drift." I am out of the business of trying to reach insult parity with you so forgive me if I skip over the rest of this garbage. No matter how hard you try, you cannot pass off insult for intelligence, so please don't waste your time or mine.
You are welcome for the infusion of new insults and verbal abuse. Your repertoire really was getting stale. Verbal abuse is not my strong suite, but unfortunately, it seems to be the only thing you are willing to respond to. Cerainly, the issues seem to be a big taboo.
No, I don't need to have the last word. Just trying to have a little fun but I have had enough of the mud bath for the time being. My condescending self is in need of something a little more productive and uplifting.
BTW, would you please try to resist the urge to plagiarize? A little bit of originality in thought and content would be a welcome surprise.
Off now in search of the job...and a little bit of substative conversation. This horse has been thrashed enough.
Later.
Ths is not my choice, but unfortunately,
Dead thread.
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Campaign was already dead. That's why
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How many dead-end bashes are you going
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What a talent, she was dead on. nm
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It was not a dead end. The information was there...
you just chose to ignore it, because it was not flattering to Obama. Period.
tens of thousands dead
and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi's and 1,744+ brave American soldiers are dead. So..lets see here..Saddam was responsible for killing thousands and Bush is responsible for killing tens of thousands.hmmm..hey, are Bush and Saddam brothers separated at birth..two fools with a thirst for blood? Seems like they are both war criminals. Saddam thumbs his nose at the world community and does what he wants..Bush thumbs his nose at the world community, the International Court of Justice and Geneva Convention and does what he wants..hmmm..they gotta be brothers, well, at least blood brothers.
Yes? Tell that to 40 million dead Jews. NM
and what about the dead in Uganda? The Sudan?
North Korea?
Oh, I forgot. THEY don't have oil.
and your board is dead most of the time anyway
You all can't discuss issues among yourselves, because you have no ideals. All of you are so different in your ideolgies that you don't even discuss amongst yourselves. You all have no glue, nothing to bond you together except...oh let's not forget the one thing is that you all hate Bush and conservatives. Other than that.nothing, zilch, nada. It's really amazing to see that the conservative board talks about human interest issues and other topics, but liberals, those who are supposed to be all about human issues and solving social problems seem to do nothing but bash, bash, bash. There's no problem solving going on in the democratic party nor is there any problem solving going on here. It's obvious to anyone who comes to these boards who are the most active politically and socially and that's the conservatives. We don't always agree about our president and some of us differ in ideals, but we have some set moral values that we go by, unlike you all where it's anything goes...so you all end up going no where.
If we are so dead and have no issues, what brings you here? sm
In the same boat eh?
The CON board is dead. No fighting going on there.
They need to fight like a fish needs water.
I used to be mad at them. Now I pity their poor, sad lives if the only pleasure they get is from trying to cause discomfort to others. Either way, they are unpleasant, tedious and offer nothing substantive, intelligent or worthwhile.
I say we ignore them and not even read their posts any more.
They're toxic.
Things are dead on both these boards
because posters who have any interest in rational debate have either been driven away or have easily found better places to go for discussion. Congratulations.
He's beating a dead horse.
Even Bush finally came clean and said there were none. That's when the *reason* for the war changed from WMDs to freeing the Iraqis (while ignoring bin Laden in Afghanistan).
I find it very, VERY interesting that his sudden *find* came less than 24 hours after PBS aired a very revealing show (*The Dark Side*) about the Iraq war, Bush, Tenet, Rumsfeld and Cheney, with the majority of the people interviewed being CIA agents, who generally had more than 20 years of service with the CIA, and they said some pretty shocking (but not too surprising) things about this whole war. (If you'd like to see this show, you can view it in its entirety on line by going to http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/; I'd personally recommend it.)
When it's all said and done, though, regardless of how many facts are presented, Santorum could have declared to the world that there's evidence that Saddam had SLINGSHOTS, and some unfortunate souls on these boards would still say, *See? We told you he had WMDs.* It's really difficult to even be upset, frustrated or angry with them any more. I just mostly feel sorry for them.
Rwanda, 800,000 dead in 100 days. sm
They pleaded for help from the UN and Clinton. No one helped them.
Benizar Butto id dead.
It has been confirmed the Ms. Butto has been killed by a bomb during the rally in Pakistan.
Ok...the link to the one quote is dead....
The rest of these are off leftist blogs. That being said...everything this pastor said, Wright has said or worse...including God dam* America. Some of the comments are over the top...but they do not preach Marxism and changing our form of government, and I don't see hatred for any race here. Wright doesn't like Jews, doesn't like Italians (garlicky I think he called them), admires Louis Farrakahn and we all know how he feels about Jews...
I am less concerned with someone saying a pipeline is God's will than I am someone saying God dam* my country and saying 9-11 was our chickens coming home to roost the very month it happened. There is no hatred from the pastor above nor from her, if in fact she said those things. Wright is hate from top to bottom.
Why don't we talk about Obama and his ties to ayers, to Alinsky, to Marxism?
the AP poll today has them dead even so....nm
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Can you not recognize a dead thread
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You are beating a dead horse! (nm)
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What about all those poor dead sperm?
Every time an egg is fertilized we should have millions of tiny graves, one for every sad little sperm that didn't make it.
"dam near dead to qualify for it" (sm)
You're right on the money there!!! I applied 10 months ago due to chronic pancreatitis from cystic fibrosis. (In fact, I was just discharged from my 10th hospitalization yesterday, after spending the night in the hospital for what they deemed to be a small stroke.)
I'm at the point now where I'm awaiting a hearing. My lawyer said it can take up to 14 months for one to be scheduled.
I was doing great with the medicines I had been prescribed because three of them are free from the manufacturer based on my income. One of these medications is the Duragesic patch, which would cost almost $700 a month if I wasn't enrolled in this program. (With this new diagnosis, however, I need to check to see who manufactures some of the other medicines I've now been prescribed.)
I would encourage anyone who has difficulty paying for their medicines to find out who manufactures them. I think many of them have a patient assistance program. It can really help a LOT.
Q. What’s black and blue and dead all over?
A. Anyone who dares to tell a joke about President Obama in public.
It's funny cause it's true...
Well, if some dead person said it, it must be true. NM
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Hey - they gotta pay off the dead people
Those Dems - they're a laff riot a minute, aren't they?
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