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But while you are awaiting the perfect bill

Posted By: children are suffering (sm) on 2007-09-28
In Reply to: Yes, I am strongly pro-life... - Observer

This bill plans to use taxes from cigarettes to pay for it, and if it uses tax dollars in other areas that is fine with me too.  On some issues you have to compromise, and when it comes to children's health and saving lives, this is one of those times.  Children need coverage.  You say you want them covered too - well, this bill is a great step in that direction.  Why wait 5 more years for a bill that EVERYONE agrees on?  Who knows how many kids will die due to lack of healthcare in that time.  Can you live with their little lives on your conscience?  I can't.


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No free pass - they will be locked up awaiting trial

The President wants the detention center closed within a year. Now the search is on to find new places to hold detainees while they await trial.


One of the places under consideration is Fort Bragg. It's not hard to image the base being considered a possibly site to relocate Gitmo detainees. In the past, Bragg has sent PAO teams and military police units to the detention center in Cuba.






North Carolina congressman David Price says the center should have been shut down long ago.

"it's just unacceptable to have that facility remaining open with people detained indefinitely with no resolution of their cases, no rights at all to even know what they're accused of," he offered.


But Price isn't sure that Bragg should be a serious consideration.


"It will have to be a very high security facility and my understanding of Fort Bragg is there is nothing like the kind of facility that would be required, but I don't know. I'm not going to presume what facilities will be chosen," he said.


Price is right. Right now, soldiers awaiting trial at Fort Bragg on a variety of charges are held in the Cumberland County detention center. Folks who live in Fayetteville have mixed views about bringing suspected terrorists to the community.


"That can be kind of scary actually... having that type of element here in our homeland and where we live," Offered resident Marco Clark.


"Well, we've got to put them some place and in that case Fort Bragg wouldn't be a bad idea," said David McCune.


Military leaders have a year to figure out where they're going to put the detainees. Sources say Camp Pendleton, Charleston Naval Base, and Fort Leavenworth might be better choices than Fort Bragg. Leavenworth may be the number one choice because it's the military's only maximum security prison.


When Bill Clinton was in office, OHHH you better believe Bill and Carter have had..sm
their day of mudslinging matches, at the pleasure of a many conservatives. So, no there's not a double standard here.
Bill Maher Takes On Bill O'Reilly

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, political humorist Bill Maher (search), he has a new book out called "New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer." Of course, Mr. Maher is about as polite as I am and as timid as Dracula. He joins us now from Los Angeles.


You know, you've had some celebrities on your HBO show, "Real Time," which begins again on Friday, talking about policy and war on terror and stuff like that. I get the feeling they don't know very much, but you do. So I'd like to make Bill Maher, right now, the terror czar. Bill Maher, the terror czar. Could be a series.


How would you fight this War on Terror? How would you fight it?


BILL MAHER, HOST, HBO'S "REAL TIME": I think the first and most important thing is to get the politics out of the War on Terror. You know, maybe I'm a cockeyed optimist, Bill, maybe I'm naive, but I thought that 9/11 was such a jarring event that nobody would dare return to business as usual on that one subject after that.


But of course, we found out that nothing could be further from the truth. And your president, my president too, but the one you voted for...


O'REILLY: You don't know that. Were you looking over my shoulder there? I could have voted for Nader. I could have voted for Kerry, but Kerry wouldn't come on the program, so I wouldn't vote. But I could have gone for Ralph. Ralph's a friend of mine.


MAHER: Yes. Anyway, I said the guy you voted for, President Bush, you know, how come this guy, who was supposed to be such a kick-and-take- names kind of guy, how come he has not been able to get the politics out of this?


You know, as a guy who's been accused of treason, I'll tell you what real treason is: Treason is when legislators vote against homeland security measures because it goes against the wishes of their political or financial backers. Treason is the fact that, as a terrorist, you could still buy a gun in this country because the NRA (search) lobby is so strong.


O'REILLY: OK. But you're getting into the political, and I agree with you. I think that the country should be united in trying to seek out and kill terrorists, who would kill us.


But I'd like to have some concrete things that you, Bill Maher, the terror czar — and take this seriously, this could be a series — what would you do?


All right, so you've got bin Laden. You've got Al Qaeda (search). You've got a bunch of other lower-level terrorist groups. What do you do to neutralize them?


MAHER: OK. Well, first of all, you discounted my answer, which is get the politics out, but OK.


O'REILLY: Well, assume you can do that. They're gone.


MAHER: We'll let that go. Keep going. I wouldn't worry that much about bin Laden. I mean, capturing bin Laden at this point, it doesn't really matter whether he's dead or alive. He's already Tupac to the people who care about him and work for him. Capturing bin Laden, killing him would be like when Ray Kroc died, how much that affected McDonald's.


O'REILLY: It would be a morale booster. But I understand. You're not going to send...


MAHER: A morale booster, right. Well, we've had plenty of morale boosting. We've had plenty of window dressing. What we need is concrete action.


In the book I wrote before this one about terrorism, I suggested that we have a Secret Service for the people. I said whenever the president goes anywhere, he has very high-level, intelligent detectives who look around at a crowd. They know what they're looking for. They're highly paid. They're highly trained.


We don't have that in this country. We should have that. We should have a cadre of 10,000 highly trained people who would guard all public events, bus stations, train stations, airports — and stop with this nonsense that this robotic sort of window dressing...


O'REILLY: OK, so you would create a homeland security office that was basically a security firm for major targets and things like that. It's not a bad idea. Costs a lot of money. Costs a lot of money. It's not a bad idea.


MAHER: Costs a lot of money compared to what? If you paid 10,000 people a salary of $100,000 a year, that would, I think, cost $10 billion or something. That's nothing. There's that much pork in the transportation bill before you get...


O'REILLY: Yes, 10,000 wouldn't do it, but I get your drift.


MAHER: Whatever it costs.


O’REILLY: You would create a super-security apparatus. OK, that's not bad. That's not bad. How about overseas now?


MAHER: What we need to do is what I call get Israeli about this. Because the Israelis are not afraid of profiling. The Israelis are not afraid to bury politics in the greater cause of protecting their nation. We don't act that way. You know, I'm afraid 9/11 really changed nothing.


O'REILLY: Boy, your ACLU (search) pals aren't going to like that. You're going to lose your membership card there.


MAHER: I'm not a member of the ACLU.


O'REILLY: Oh, sure you are, just like I voted for Bush. You're a member of the ACLU. I can see the card right in your pocket there.


MAHER: Bill, I'm not a joiner. I'm not a joiner. I don't like organizations.


O'REILLY: They won't have you, Maher, let's be honest about that. All right, now, in your book, which is very amusing, by the way — if you want a few laughs buy Maher's book.


MAHER: Thank you.


O'REILLY: You take some shots at FOX News, which is your wont, and I just want to know why you think we're so fabulously successful here.


MAHER: Well, I think that question has been answered many times. It's because the conservative viewer in this country, or on radio the conservative listener, is very predictable. They like to hear what they like to hear. They like to hear it over and over again.


O'REILLY: All the surveys show that the viewers are all over the map. They're not conservative in a big bloc. Some of them are moderate. Some of them are Democrats. Some of them are Moroccans. I mean, they're everywhere. That's your analysis? That just the conservatives watch us?


MAHER: Well, I think mostly the conservatives do watch you. That's not to take anything away from what you guys have achieved over there. It's a very well-produced broadcast, and they have excellent personalities like yourself, Bill. Who could resist watching you when you get home from work at night?


O'REILLY: Whoopi Goldberg, maybe? I don't know.


MAHER: Yes.


O'REILLY: Anyone who doesn't watch here is misguided. We identify them as such.


But look, I think there's more to it than — you're in TV. You know the ratings game. I mean, if you don't provide a product that is satisfying people, no matter what your ideology, they tell you to take a hike.


There's a guy over at MSNBC. He's a very conservative guy. He was hired and nobody's watching him. They hire liberals. Nobody watches them. Air America (search). Nobody's listening to it.


I mean, there's got to be a reason why we're No. 1, a punch line for you, and No. 2, you know, becoming the most powerful news network in the world.


MAHER: Well, I think, as I say, it's a well-produced product. You know, your program moves along, always at a clip that never seems to bore. You know, you move along to the next topic, the next guest. It never sort of drags. I don't think a lot of people know how to produce that stuff that way.


O'REILLY: All right. It's bells and whistles and my charming personality. That's what I thought it was.


Last thing: You know, one thing I like about Maher is he's not a hypocrite. He drives a little hybrid vehicle. Right? You putter around there. Does it have training wheels? What's it like?


MAHER: Actually, I had the Prius hybrid for three years. I was one of the first ones to get it right after 9/11. And I traded it in a few months ago for the Lexus hybrid.


O'REILLY: I think we should all cut back on our energy consumption, and I think we should all get these hybrids as fast as we can.


Hey, Bill, always nice to see you. Thanks very much. Good luck with the season on the TV show.


MAHER: Continued success there, Mr. No. 1.


O'REILLY: All right. Thank you.


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Bill Clinton and his ties to India (yes, Bill),...
and China (yes, Bill) sent a lot of our jobs their way. Google it some time. Even I was amazed.

Look, it is simple economics. The big bad corporations everyone hates...first of all, it is not 5 or 6 rich guys and that's it. They employee thousands of people just like us...and when the government puts those huge taxes on them, if they want to stay in business, they are forced to move offshore. Higher taxes are responsible for more jobs going overseas than "greed." The DNC has told its members for years that "corporations" and "the rich" are the cause of all their problems and they have bought that Marxist rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. Corporations are not the cause of ill in this country. They are the backbone of the economy in this country. That is simple economics 101. And I am certainly not rich...and I certainly am not on the upper echelon of a corporation, but I do understand reality and I understand how the economy works. Yes, there is wrongdoing by some upper level folks in corporations. There is wrongdoing in the government. Where there is power, there will be wrongdoing. But for every Enron there are thousands of other good, solid companies that employ thousands of Americans, but the DNC does not share the success stories, because it does not promote their agenda. In order to control people they want them beholden to government and hating free enterprise. They want big government, total power, and control. And following Alinksy's program...you have to instill class warfare. You have to make corporations the enemy. You have to make classes envy the next rung up. Classic Marxist socialism. It is being played out in this country every day.

It is just that some of us have not bought the myth and jumped on the socialism train.
Did you read the bill? It was a regulatory reform bill...
asking them to regulate, not de-regulate. But Democrats blocked it...no wonder. Fannie was greasing a lot of Democratic palms...and Frederick Raines, the Dem CEO at the time...was in the Clinton administration. They were taking care of their own...and we are paying for it.
if abe is on the $5 bill & george is on the $1 bill, what is Obama on?
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Here is a perfect example. sm
You might want to step back, take a deep breath and ask yourself why one simple question *why did you post this*, would bring on such a tirade from you. It was a question. That was all it was. 
Perfect....
The world (in my opinion) would be a better place if people didn't take themselves so seriously.

Great statement, TT! Says it all.
I am not saying that he is perfect -
I never said anything about transparency - I am saying that even when I read the articles you all are quoting it never says that Obama lied about anything.

Maybe his aides misspoke, maybe Bush's aides misspoke, I don't know - but you all are calling Obama a liar and I just don't see where he lied.

At the same time, I don't think that telling what he and President Bush talked about is really all that bad a thing - yes, I really would like some transparency in knowing what is going on in my country - they are both elected officials and in fact are answerable to "we the people". I don't think any sensitive information was leaked out concerning our enemies - I think what we read was about our economy, which at this point we are all concerned about and should have as much information as possible.

Now for the part about admitting that he is wrong, if he is wrong or does something bad, I will be the first to stand up and say it, and I will be the first to admit I was wrong in supporting him, but at this point, I do not see anything he has done wrong.
This is a perfect example....(sm)

of why dems are so critical of the right.  You just throw stuff out there that has no basis.  Given that I have looked at all available text that would fall into the category you speak of and have found nothing to back up your claim, the fact that Obama typically meticulously chooses his words before he says them, and your obvious unwillingness or inability to provide some kind of documentation to support your claim, I have to come to the conclusion that what you have said is false.  If this is incorrect, then by all means, please feel free to prove me wrong.


The dems were just recently accused of character assassination after stating facts.  And then here you come along with this garbage, which is basically the same thing that has been done by the pubs since before the election.  At least you're consistent.


That is a perfect example of
how helping people sometimes isn't helping.....it is enabling them to continue mooching.  This is what the current administration fails to understand. 
Never said he was perfect...
just said he wasn't a socialist! Where do air traffic controllers come in?
Yes, that was so right on .... so perfect.
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How perfect.. thanks.
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" . . .no obligation to think logically, represent facts accurately or to be an honest broker in the public arena of ideas."  Thank you for that perfect description of Fox News. 

PERFECT!!!
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Here's a perfect example, Suzie:

American Girl: Yawwnnn.... you're boring me to death....


Nameless Troll: By all means.... RIP.


MT: See, THAT'S what I am talkin' about! SM boring and lame! I am telling you, you are lame girl.


American Girl: Did they just wish me dead? ....RIP is a term usually reserved for the dead, right?


They degenerate debate to name calling, calling us evil, and then wishing us dead....all the while preaching to us about how evil and intolerant we are....the irony is bewildering but not unexpected.



MT: Don't forget when they told Nan she was old and would die soon SM and wished for her to burn in hell. That was an especial highlight of the nature of how they "never" say anything hateful.


(No name, but I admit it was me, completely frustrated and having sunk to their level): I know it's difficult but close your eyes and try to FOCUS for a second or two. Take a deep breath. You can do it. The poster was directly responding in kind to YOUR post in which YOU wrote: you're boring me to death.... Now feel free to twist and mangle that any way that makes you look like poor little AG who is always picked on, but YOU are the one who started this. The person was wishing you a peaceful trip while on the destination YOU indicated you were headed.


American Girl: Admit it though... you still wished me dead....


Nameless Troll: Not true. I don't wish anyone dead. I don't harbor that kind of hatred inside me. Sorry to bust your bubble.


Nan: They'll never admit it. sm It has to be your imagination.


These were just a FEW in an entire thread of insults (including one from Nan calling the person a slimy bottom dweller.) Not ONE post in this entire thread added anything of intelligence to any debate (including my own).


Does anyone reading this SERIOUSLY think the poster wished AG dead? When I read it, I see it as a very sarcastic response to a very sarcastic post. I believe it’s shortly after this point in time (when those three were getting exactly what they gave, after repeated threats and "chances" and "strikes" by them to the poster or else they would tell the Monitor) that they all three posted that they wouldn’t be coming back here any more. Those posts are gone now, and as we can see, one of them is already denying ever saying she was leaving. (To those of you who actually did read these posts and know they were there, please continue to rely on the accuracy of your memory because it’s correct.)


Now, when the day comes that AG recalls someone on this board "wishing her dead," are you going to believe that that is what the person REALLY wished, given the entire context of these posts?


The Perfect Storm. SM
America Will Reject the Race Exploiting Demagogues of the New Orleans Tragedy

by Keith Thompson 

Saturday 10 September 2005, 6:35 pm


MSNBC ran a ticker headline Friday identifying dead bodies, debris, human waste and chemicals as prominent contents of the toxic flood waters. It’s no surprise, and curiously fitting, that the national media all week has been awash with the cultural equivalent: noxious, vile proclamations by the America’s foremost moral pretenders, atrocity addicts, all-purpose grifters and incendiary race hustlers: Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, and Maxine Waters — with auditions from aspiring race-mongering demagogues Kanye West and Michael Eric Dyson.


Each of these self-congratulatory progressive activists has labored to exploit the New Orleans catastrophe as an onslaught against black America. Collectively they possess moral authority equivalent to the two scammers who used an amputated finger in an attempted shakedown of Wendys. Let’s be clear about the lineage these bottom feeders are part of. The opportunistic race-based ghouls who have made New Orleans their haunt are not different from David Duke, in either kind or degree. The activists now working overtime to incite race hatred — doing so in the name of “justice” and “civil rights” — deserve the same accolades and mantles as the klansmen who terrorized blacks, Jews, Catholics, and white civil rights workers in another decade.


Like the vulgar, hate-driven white racists who read aloud from Bibles in church the morning after lynching, burning and raping, these morally bankrupt representatives of today’s civil rights elite represent the last gasp of a morally unregenerate worldview. And like the Klan of yore, they (and their enablers Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Richard Cohen, and Hillary Clinton) grow more desperate and deranged as the moderate American mainstream rejects their quest to rip open the nation’s past racial wounds for temporary partisan advantage.


Efforts to turn New Orleans into the cultural equivalent of Rwanda are repugnant to everything about America than makes moral sense. Lincoln spoke of the better angels of human nature, implying the existence of something very much worse. Every schoolboy knows the proper counterpart is demon. The moral scammers now inciting race hatred in the wake of the Louisiana nightmare will fail. And the movement they represent will ultimately fail, because it is more than wrong or simply false, it is cancerously self-canceling. The body politic will cast off this disease and will do so to preserve its well being, vitality, and wholeness.


But the end of this fight is not near. The mainstream media is highlighting the preposterous claims of America’s hate apostles because the MSM sees an opportunity not simply to negate the past two presidential elections, but to reverse the general trend away from the cultural corrections (anti-welfare state, pro-national defense) that Reagan’s 1980 victory represented. The American left has been licking its chops for years, hoping for the political equivalent of a perfect storm: the ideal convergence of forces that would yield a return to normalcy for expanding the gutter of identity politics and apologizing to the world at large for everything American. The left longs for a return of Carter’s malaise because that will reinforce the left’s longstanding antagonism toward the resurgence of personal responsibility and national pride since 9-11.


The unconscionable quest to exploit the human misery of New Orleans sickens me more than I can say. I was with my family at a Florida hospice, attending to my mother as she lay dying from cancer, when Katrina came ashore, wreaking human and physical loss only miles away. We were all aware that our personal loss would be shared by many hurricane victims, and that the American people would do what we always do: rally to help the wounded, the sick, and the bereaved. It never occurred to us — not even remotely — on August 25, the day mom passed away, that leaders of this nation’s so-called progressive community would even consider using a natural tragedy as an occasion to further their now familiar By Any Means Necessary campaign against this country and its traditions.


Then again, neither did I expect that there would be 250 demonstrations on American campuses against the United States responding militarily to the September 11 attacks, as David Horowitz has so aptly described. Naïvete dies hard, but there’s a positive side. It’s extremely hard to resuscitate.


Your post is a perfect example.
I believe this is what Delighted was referring to.  You are not discussing anything, merely demeaning all liberals.  It grows tiresome.  There is little to no debate generally, and postings are merely a platform to demean liberals on this, the liberal board.
Perfect example of why Dems will win and be in the
Republicans thrive on scare tactics - or at least they THINK they're scare tactics. 
The Perfect Stranger
The Perfect Stranger


By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, August 29, 2008;

Barack Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. But himself.

Nothing wrong or even terribly odd about that, except that he is laying claim to the job of crafting the coming history of the United States. A leap of such audacity is odd. The air of unease at the Democratic convention this week was not just a result of the Clinton psychodrama. The deeper anxiety was that the party was nominating a man of many gifts but precious few accomplishments -- bearing even fewer witnesses.

When John Kerry was introduced at his convention four years ago, an honor guard of a dozen mates from his Vietnam days surrounded him on the podium attesting to his character and readiness to lead. Such personal testimonials are the norm. The roster of fellow soldiers or fellow senators who could from personal experience vouch for John McCain is rather long. At a less partisan date in the calendar, that roster might even include Democrats Russ Feingold and Edward Kennedy, with whom John McCain has worked to fashion important legislation.
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Eerily missing at the Democratic convention this year were people of stature who were seriously involved at some point in Obama's life standing up to say: I know Barack Obama. I've been with Barack Obama. We've toiled/endured together. You can trust him. I do.

Hillary Clinton could have said something like that. She and Obama had, after all, engaged in a historic, utterly compelling contest for the nomination. During her convention speech, you kept waiting for her to offer just one line of testimony: I have come to know this man, to admire this man, to see his character, his courage, his wisdom, his judgment. Whatever. Anything.

Instead, nothing. She of course endorsed him. But the endorsement was entirely programmatic: We're all Democrats. He's a Democrat. He believes what you believe. So we must elect him -- I am currently unavailable -- to get Democratic things done. God bless America.

Clinton's withholding the "I've come to know this man" was vindictive and supremely self-serving -- but jarring, too, because you realize that if she didn't do it, no one else would. Not because of any inherent deficiency in Obama's character. But simply as a reflection of a young life with a biography remarkably thin by the standard of presidential candidates.

Who was there to speak about the real Barack Obama? His wife. She could tell you about Barack the father, the husband, the family man in a winning and perfectly sincere way. But that takes you only so far. It doesn't take you to the public man, the national leader.

Who is to testify to that? Hillary's husband on night three did aver that Obama is "ready to lead." However, he offered not a shred of evidence, let alone personal experience with Obama. And although he pulled it off charmingly, everyone knew that, having been suggesting precisely the opposite for months, he meant not a word of it.

Obama's vice presidential selection, Joe Biden, naturally advertised his patron's virtues, such as the fact that he had "reached across party lines to . . . keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists." But securing loose nukes is as bipartisan as motherhood and as uncontroversial as apple pie. The measure was so minimal that it passed by voice vote and received near zero media coverage.

Thought experiment. Assume John McCain had retired from politics. Would he have testified to Obama's political courage in reaching across the aisle to work with him on ethics reform, a collaboration Obama boasted about in the Saddleback debate? "In fact," reports the Annenberg Political Fact Check, "the two worked together for barely a week, after which McCain accused Obama of 'partisan posturing' " -- and launched a volcanic missive charging him with double-cross.

So where are the colleagues? The buddies? The political or spiritual soul mates? His most important spiritual adviser and mentor was Jeremiah Wright. But he's out. Then there's William Ayers, with whom he served on a board. He's out. Where are the others?

The oddity of this convention is that its central figure is the ultimate self-made man, a dazzling mysterious Gatsby. The palpable apprehension is that the anointed is a stranger -- a deeply engaging, elegant, brilliant stranger with whom the Democrats had a torrid affair. Having slowly woken up, they see the ring and wonder who exactly they married last night.
Yes - and then it would be a perfect world
Yeeee-haaaaaa
These are perfect!! Thanks for the shot . .
of reality . . . well, reality to most of us, anyway. 
Now there's a perfect example of true

I think it is a perfect analogy.
I'm sorry you feel like you wasted your time reading my post but grades are earned just like incomes are earned.  To take away from one to give to another is just absurd, discouraging, and not fair at all to the people who worked hard to achieve their incomes or grades.  It encourages people to not work as hard because they are penalized for making more and it will encourage more people not to work because they will get a check from the government supporting them anyway...so why bother.
Sure, because NOTHING in this world is perfect...nm
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Right, we understand, you are perfect,
doubt anything you print here, and most certainly, if anyone disagrees with any of your opinions we are spiteful and impulsive hens, pathetic and hilarious. And those are just a few mild descriptive terms from this one post you have. I am so sorry you had to stoop to the level we did and become a mere MT at some point in your life. Maybe some day you will find something of substance and reality in your life and realize what it is all about, however, I will not hold my breath!

Now, as my 2-year-old granddaughter says when she finishes her meal, I'm done.
P.S. Who decided he was the perfect one

to run for president anyhow? There were candidate s much more qualified than O that could have run away with the votes if they were "chosen" by the party...but they chose someone who was only a senator for what, less than 2 years? Why? I would love to know how the party choses their candidates to run for president. Something doesn't smell right here.


 


Thanks for posting this. Perfect!
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Such a perfect post... Thank you.
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Okay, maybe this would be the perfect time
for that explanation of irony?  Nah, never mind. 
Perfect solution........... sm
Send the illegals back to their home countries with a politician under each arm!

I agree that amnesty is a bad idea. With the millions upon millios we now spend for healthcare, housing, and other benefits for illegals, the rising tide of illegals that will likely come with this amnesty will only dig us all further into debt. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting a little tired of paying taxes to cover illegals' medical bills and pay for their food when I can't afford insurance for myself and have to scrimp on the food bill because there just is not enough money to go around after I pay taxes.
Jon always has the perfect perspective . . .

Hey Fox!! Paranoia will destroy 'ya!!  TEE HEE!! 


fighting for a perfect
Move to Pakistan and fight the Taliban.
Oh, that makes perfect sense.

They're simply not the *right* EC (evangelically correct) Christians.


Did you by chance see the Barbara Walters special last night on heaven?  I watched part of it, but I also taped it. 


The two religions that stuck out like a sore thumb were the *born again* Christians and the *jihad Muslims*.  They were the two groups who felt that everyone who didn't believe exactly as they do are doomed to go to hell.


So the fact that Catholics are targeted makes perfect sense to me and is in line with the Bush & Co. MO.


All is in divine and perfect order
Another stabilizing force is Barack Obama. He will be poised and positioned perfectly to bring the entire planet together, there-by creating yet another grid of unity that will serve to stabilize things as much as possible during the fall. We will connect and support each other through his divine and highly evolved leadership. All, as always, is in divine and perfect order.
That makes perfect sense. not. lol. nm
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I think it makes perfect sense.

They are both getting their victims to do what they want them to do with a promise neither of them will keep. 


Sounds like the perfect politician to me -- too bad

I will not be a perfect president, but I will always tell you the truth
If he just does that one thing and tries his best, we will have struck gold. The rest is gravy.
As in Happy Days are here again? Perfect.
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Great selection of party dresses. My personal favorite, the asymmetrical black sheath, squared sleeveless yoke on right side, sleeveless on the left.

www.stylehive.com
A red taffeta number with a full skirt and petticoats, no doubt.

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This frock is to die for...white body-hugging deep-V halter sheath with what looks like fake white fox along the slightly-above the ankle hemline, essentially bling-less, save the drop earrings so as not to upstage the 3/4-length above the elbow evening gloves. It's crying out for stiletto heels, but actual ambulation might prove to be a bit hazardous. Va-Va-voom.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a280/aimtx/aax.jpg
Lest we forget the fashion statement of the decade...the Marilyn Monroe blow skirt. No need to fuss with much in the way of undergarments.

http://www.vickisnylons.com/BBra/bbra.htm
Speaking of undergarments, don't forget every 50s gal's essentials: Waist-high nylon panties, a snappy sliding garter belt, thigh-high seamed nylons and one of those cool padded pointy bullet bras.

PAAARRRRTEEEE.........

I didn't say it was a perfect solution....... sm
just a solution and as with any solution there are exceptions. The elderly by and large are eligible for this program provided their income falls within a certain limit, as are prenant or nursing women, postpartum women up to a certain point, children under the age of 6, among others. This program is already in place, so what might be more appropriate is to save the food stamp program for the disabled, the low-income working class and the elderly and revamp the screening process for food stamps that would weed out those who currently abuse the system because it is easier to get a hand out than a hand up. Maybe even make job retraining programs a stipulation of receiving food stamps and make food stamps work in conjunction with the commodities program in certain instances.

Here is a link to the commodities program. There is a page listing the foods available now and it does appear that there is more variety than before, but still limited to basic nutritional foods.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fdd/
Amen! perfect... nuff said.
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You have outlined a perfect example why we were beat in November. sm
People are tired of the dirty fighting.  If you want to fight, don't act like a bunch of 3 year olds on a chat board.  Namecalling and wishing people ill is not going to win you anything but disdain.  I certainly don't want you representing me on the left.  Do you know what they are talking about on the conservative board?  Current affairs and dying war heroes.  In other words, SUBSTANTIAL stuff.  How about trying that here for a change instead of the totally ridiculous Google searches.  My God.
This is a perfect example of what I would point out as a stereotypical, mean-spirited
post, full of generalizations and just plain hatefulness. Yet above posting scripture. I am not sure how one reconciles that.  Don't bother answering.  I won't be around ot see it.  I feel sorry for you.
"The Living Dead" Yes, perfect!
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Perfect definition! I'm standing up & cheering...
In applause. Excellent.
She is perfect! She cleaned up corruption in her own party...
in Alaska...she is mother of 5...husband is a native Eskimo...last child is a Down's child she chose not to abort...she does NOT toe the party line and does not put the party before what she feels was best for her state. She is strong, smart, and exactly right to be the first female vice-president of this great United States! McCain hit it out of the park. GOOD for him.
They were all so perfect. Warm, beautiful, proud.
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Perfect way to frame the real truth! nm
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Ron Gettelfinger is making perfect sense
on this in his new conference as we speak.