Bush made Wall St Socialist and our banks so why do you even bother
Posted By: Christian without the hate on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: It's obvious why this poster seems to think - MSMT
We have socialism now but it's not the poor you blinded bigot.
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Your precious Bush turned Wall St socialist and the banks TRUE
you voted for him and look what happened SOCIALISM by BUSH
"Evil" is George Bush, Wall Street, the Banks,
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It should be $$ for banks, big oil and wall street, right?
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This is truly socialism. These banks and rich Wall
Street types would be crying out if they gov't did this for the people, but they are begging for the help now. They had better come up with a plan that includes not big pay days for CEOs, etc. I was watching The View and Whoppi said they need to include something for the people, like wiping out half of the mortgages so the actual people who will benefit the economy, i.e. us because we spend money here in the U.S. can get back on our feets and go out and put some money back in the economy and not have to worry about losing a home, etc. I totally agree with that, but I can pretty much guarantee that will not happen.
How about Bush's plan of buying banks?
What's that called?
Bush vetoed regulation of FRED and WALL st several times
and stop watching fox distorted faux news
GW Bush turned out to be socialist
He is the poster boy for how deregulation doesn't work. Now we all get to pay for his mistakes. The rich people are technically on welfare now thanks to the average person.
Bush turned out to be a socialist and you were fooled by him
Our banks are under socialism now.
It's Bush's Fault...You made me laugh..sm
Does anyone recall during Clinton's 8 year presidency, the opposition constantly chanting IT'S CLINTON'S FAULT !!!..???...))) Have a good one.
People are such hypocrites. If Bush had made the
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The other **loving** statement Barbara Bush made in 2003
Ignorant fool that she is.
Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, Barbara Bush said on ABC's Good Morning America on March 18, 2003. Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?
Banks
Out of 10,800 banks in this country, only .5% of 1% of the banks failed...............
which means Obama should have left it all alone. If he truly had people around him that cared about this country, they would have informed him to let the banks fail, that there were plenty of strong ones out there and he should just let the chips fall where they may.
He has stuck this country to the tune of trillions and we will be paying the price big time in a year or so when the inflation boom hits...... he preyed on fear, knowing so many would just think he suddenly knows the best thing to do. The best thing to do was nothing. Private companies fail all the time and the stronger ones survive. Simple as that. Strong ones buy out the weaker ones. That would have happened with no interference from the governement at all, as usual! Just like all the car manufacturers aren't failing. Fiat is looking at buying Saturn..... and life goes on. Private businesses should always be left alone.
The only reason AIG got such a big bailout is because many democratic friends of Obama and his cronies work there.... the names aren't that hard to find but you have to look for who knows who to start getting the picture. Such a pathetic shame!
And if the gov't had not deregulated banks,
brought about by pubs.
Deregulation of what, may I ask? Banks,
Two more banks go belly up..... sm
bringing the total to 19 failed banks now.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/07/news/companies/bank_failure/index.htm?postversion=2008110721&eref=rss_topstories
don;t forget foreign banks
successfully lobbied to be included in this bailout. (John McCain's financial advisor Phil Gram is head of USB, Swiss bank)
And government ownership of banks.
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it is called "job banks" and -
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/11/21/automakers-ask-bailout-paying-workers-sit/
Here's the link to read all the information. They can do volunteer work for the community if they want to - but it is not required. Mostly they just sit there and collect the $31 an hour.
And banks didn't have a choice?
They loaned money to people to buy McMansions that they could not afford - on purpose. The housing industry was booming. That way, they could forclose on these bad loans - keep the down payments and subsequent payments and resell the house. They were trading paper. Maybe you ought to educate yourself. Nah. Too far of a stretch. After all, the constitution-abiding president who just slunk off with his tail between his legs wasn't at all concerned about civil rights or the constitution. He was playing monopoly and destroying everything in his path - like rich, spoiled little boys do. You know, the ones who go AWOL from their service and receive no punishment. He probably still suckles grandma Barbara.
Oh, I get it. Kinda like the bailed out banks
I feel so much better now.
How many mortgages got sold to other banks?
Look at the big picture. They were selling houses to anyone who would sign on the dotted line - they did not give a fig whether or not you could afford it. They then boxed up a pile of these mortgages and sold them to other banks or mortgage companies with the premise - here's a box of rocks, there's gotta be a diamond in there somewhere. They WANTED these mortgages to fail. The housing market was booming - take the down payment, pass the mortgage around - foreclose on hapless patsies - and resell the house. They were MAKING MONEY OFF OF DOING THIS!!! But, they got greedy, and that box held all rocks and no diamonds. They screwed themselves as well as the American people who fell for this sham. But who is going to suffer the most?
That happened when the **banks got drunk**
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Marx: Centralize credit in the banks.
private property. Right any bells?
A Quiet Windfall for US Banks (While You Weren't Looking)
Here's you starter-kit that went under the radar screen, tax and spend lovers...
» Washington Post: A Quiet Windfall for US Banks
Who gave the banks all that money with no oversight?
This site would be much more interesting if you knew what you were talking about. You'll be sniveling in the bread lines along with the rest of us as a result of Bush's "I'm the Decider" BS. Better add some vodka to that Kool-Aid - it's going to be a miserable ride.
Same with the banks - they've lost MY business,
- if EVER. Take my Mastercard, for instance. Been a loyal customer, same bank for 30 years, yada, yada. Always make my payments, often in full, and other times way over the minimum. Never late, my checks don't bounce. So they raise my finance charges from 9% to 29% in one fell swoop!
Needless to say, that's it for me. I cleaned out my bank savings (which was only earning about .02% interest), and paid off the Mastercard with it. Will close the account. Now that there are checking account debit-cards, who needs the charge card? Plus it'll keep me from spending more than I have. In a dire emergency, I can always siphon a little out of my money market (which still earns something like 4-5% interest) to pay for emergencies in FULL, without running up credit card fees. So, there goes part of the banks' income!
If all of us rearranged our finances in such a way that we pay NO fees or finance charges, maybe the banks would have to find an HONEST way to make a profit. Wouldn't THAT be a revelation.
She said ACORN bullied banks into giving the loans....
she just said Obama was associated with them. ACORN did bully banks, and Obama WAS associated with them, through Project Vote. He trained the ACORN folks how to get out and get people registered, hired them to work on his senate campaign, and ACORN endorsed him. And they are under investigation for voter fraud in ALL the swing states. Admitted in Ohio today: yes, there will be fraud, its not our fault, we can't check every registration. Sounds like "He was just a guy in the neighborhood" excuse. Looks like he taught them well.
This guy is so dirty.
If socialism doesn't work - then why did W give the banks all that $$?
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First because of a hurricane. Now because of Wall St.
an earthquake in California. Or maybe because his favorite show is on TV that night.
I want somebody with some actual ballz in the white house, not an aged wimp.
McCain wants to put Soc Sec in Wall St just like
HE MUST BE STOPPED
Oh Wow. Don't think Wall Street
likes what was done today. It's down 383.73 points and it's not even 4:00 yet!
I have zero confidence in Wall St......nm
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The writing is on the wall!!!
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I am, however, for building that wall...
Along the Mason-Dixon Line!!
Wall Street Journal for one
I know, I know a "liberal rag"!!!! ha ha ha
90% of Wall Street is owned and run by....sm
liberal democrats.
The feds should use the bank & Wall St.
Then put a lien on, and sell, their fancy mansions in upstate NY, their yachts, their Mercedes, etc. Let their kids to go public school instead of fancy private ones. They're the greedy ones who got us into this mess, let THEM pay for it, not us.
McCain wants to privatize SS in Wall St just like
You have to really try to pay attention. Wall St is now subsidized by us. The big money is gone. If GW had his way, everyone's SS would be gone. McCain still wants to privatize SS. Even a rabid republican would see this is a dumb idea.
It's like talking to a brick wall
They don't seem to get it.
Would love to be a fly on the wall if your daughter
got knocked up despite being "taught not to get pregnant". Especially if that mistake were to end up tying her for 18 years of her life to some loser guy, and all the problems that can bring.
So what exactly do you think will happen if the earth's population continues to grow at the rate it's been for the past 50-100 years? What kind of world does that leave your grandchildren? It's too crowded now - how horrible will it be when the earth's population doubles, then triples? Standing-room-only?
From the Wall Street Journal
World greets Obama:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122592900344403049.html
Obama's Dour Vision:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122592129148302567.html
What an Obama Presidency Means for Your Money:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122591367859702209.html
Pelosi, Automakers to Meet:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122599560485005549.html
Obamas's Real Opposition:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122593259568103473.html
Wall Street Grieves
The stages of grief:
Denial - okay that was last year, just read old Paulson reports.
Anger - that was Lehman Bros.
Bargaining - TARP anyone?
Depression -
Acceptance -
I think we have a ways to go until they get over it.....
wall street journal more credible than CNN?
One of them is a link to a video...hard to say that was manufactured. It wasn't...I saw it live. Just leave it up to the people to decide. Both sides presented, and people can do their own research as well. They should not take what I post for the truth, or what anyone posts. It is a place to start to look on their own. I would just advise...both sides...anything on blogs needs to be verified with something a bit more credible.
This is America, and there is nothing wrong with presenting both sides of an issue. Is there?
Have it your way. Retreat back behind that wall of separation
But do yourself and all of us a favor and simply give the man a chance. Your posts are full of fear and doubt. If you find the simple suggestion that you reach deep down inside yourself and do your part to meet the challenge of healing halfway so intimidating, it is not your time yet. I pray hope will come to you sooner rather than later.
Wall street bonuses expected
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/finance/wall-street-bonuses-expects-come-season-despite-bailout/
Paying bonuses this year is likely to result in a lot of backlash from the average American. After all, even with bonuses down dramatically, they are still higher than the average American, who is losing his or her home, makes. Not to mention the government bailout of financial firms, which seems to change daily, is coming from taxpayer dollars. Concerns abound—rightly or wrongly--that some of the $700 billion bailout could go to pay bonuses this year.
And we bail out Wall St. who created this mess.....
Didja watch House of Cards? That spelled it out pretty succinctly. People were sucked into mortgages they couldn't afford, they were told they could refinance in 1-5 years and keep the mortgage payments they could afford - THEY WERE LIED TO. The bankers and Wall St. had to keep that Ponzi scheme going.......pizza delivery drivers were selling mortgages!! The more they sold, the more money they made - upwards $20,000 per month - they sucked people into refinancing to put cash in their pockets because housing values were skyrocketing.......and it all crashed down. So who did we bail out first? The banks and Wall St.............not the people who got screwed by con men. And these people were not POOR - they just got sucked into buying more house than they could afford. So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Wall Street has zero confidence in Obama's
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Don't bother
I won't be back to read it.
I hope you will see what is truly going on in your viewing this morning. I hope you will also see all the good Americans who are walking around the astrodome giving out water and supplies. I hope you see that the Southern Baptists and Samaritan's Purse and other groups are setting up kitchens, mobile showers, and counseling stations. I hope that you see how the gangs, rapists and murders are making this difficult on everyone. I hope you can get your index finger out of the pointing position and roll up your sleeves with the rest of good Americans are doing and do what you can do. There will be time to dissect this all later as far as whole failed who etc., but that is after all these people are taking care of. I agree that government has been slow in acting for reasons I'm yet to understand, but I also know that we don't need the government to take care of these people. If we all pitch in and sacrifice these people will get the leg up they need to start putting their lives together.
Why bother?
I used to enjoy these boards and the differing viewpoints, but I think people are starting to show their true colors. Enjoy yourselves. However, I hope those that read here do their own research using unbiased sources and make up their own minds and don't just take anything here as fact without doing so.
oh don't bother....
...I'll just answer my own question. It's because you're one of the dems on this board....*sigh*
Let me also just save you the trouble and call myself a couple dozen names in the process.
&*()&*(WE&R)*D&*()&)&*(#&&*()#$&%
There. Now you feel better, don't you?
why bother?
Sam, surely you know that these libs have nothing but empty emotion in their replies. They're mad that Hillary wasn't chosen (but so are we!), mad this, mad that, just bitter people who do exactly as the drive-bys do.
They won't debate you openly and fairly because they can't. If they bring forth something worth discussing I'll reply. These people aren't acting like adults.
While I applaud your initial efforts, I have to wonder why you continue the abuse. They don't absorb what you say. All they do is just hurl something back at you. And why? Because Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder.
Why stoop to that level?
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