Blind loyalty, sad. You need to wake up.nm
Posted By: LVMT on 2006-07-06
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Faith and blind loyalty are two different things
You are looking down your nose at people who differ in their beliefs than you. If we have convictions based on our faith (many faiths including Jewish, Christian/Catholic & Muslim consider Israel to be holy territory) then who are you to belittle what we see happening such as fulfilling of propehcy etc.? Just because you don't believe what is happening there has any Biblical/Koranic basis does not make us wrong or loony or whatever. Your statements basically made fun of people of faith, and I don't think that is very tolerant of you.
Not hatred, outrage because of blind loyalty, and I am an Independent....sm
Democrat who thinks for herself and does not have to swallow party lies, or cling to bad loyalties. America means we can ,and SHOULD think for ourselves, I may carry a party affiliation, but I go with my gut, my own intelligence, my instincts, and all the information and education I can get.....you can follow a party,but not into a burning building, as the Bush supporters do....we can all be independent, that is why we have this country, time to get away from that "US OR THEM" theology and be AMERICAN, blind party loyalty is just mass insanity.
Be worried about blind loyalty, not learning from history....sm
be worried about people who put party politics before the good of the country and its people, be worried about waging foreign wars we have NO RIGHT to fight (and by the way, what are we winning there, please remind me). And where do all you DOOMSDAY PROPHETS get all your future information, do you channel Nostradamus,have a crystal ball, or what???
Their loyalty is so misguided though...
They think he will take care of their financial woes and lead them to the promised land, when all he will do is lead them to poverty. He is betting on those that will pay no attention to what he is really all about, all the issues he side steps and refuses to discuss, simply because the media doesn't go at him like McCain. They will be sorry they didn't.
Too many followers are just looking for a free ride or a free ride for someone they know...
Jesse Jackson for once told the truth. He told it like it was. Jesse Jr is a big buddy of Obama and even he didn't fall for O's promises until O promised him the world, so now he backs him. What crooks these folks are.
EXACTLY! He has no loyalty to THIS country
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Thank God your Obama has no loyalty to his
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Don't you wish ? Issue is character, trust, loyalty and
What about the rest of the list. Again, question is what does this kind of repeated behavior spanning ?many years say about a man's character, especially one who now implores a nation to admire his character, trust his judgment, believe he is loyal to his porported "cause" and that he respects women...the votes he now seeks
Wake up America
America is becoming a shadow what it once was. Time to clean house from the president down to our state representative. Whether you be Republican or Democrat we need to get new blood in our government. Everyone needs to get out and vote and remember all of these tragedies. Time has a way of healing and being amnesiac at the poles, remember, always remember.
Wake Up Call
Read this article closely:
Describing George W. Bush as the most stupid president in U.S. history, the Al Qaeda leader reached out to the Muslim world and said his group was winning faster than expected in Iraq.
The U.S. president's policy had enabled the militant group to achieve their goal of fighting more Americans, said the Al Qaeda leader.
We call the lame duck (Bush) not to hurry up in escaping the same way the defense minister did, he said, referring to the removal of Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary following the Democrats' victory in Midterm elections.
They are getting ready to leave, because they are no longer capable of staying, the Al Qaeda leader said.
Remain steadfast in the battlefield you coward, he called on the U.S president.
If this does not chill your blood, with all due respect, there is something terribly wrong. These people are focused on the destruction of the United States. They get their information from the New York Times and CNN, and they are heartened that the majority of this country who voted espouse the cut and run theory on Iraq. They seek to divide us from within and for the country to turn on the President (and they have done that successfully it would seem). They think (and it would appear that they are right in many cases) that the US as a whole has no stomach for the fight. In their eyes, we are weak and not willing to fight for what we believe in like they are, and in their eyes that makes us cowards. We are in a WAR, yes a WAR, like no other. And if you do not think us pulling out of Iraq prematurely will not fire the jihad you are very sadly mistaken. They will view it as a major victory and I shudder to think what will follow it. The very reason we have not had more major attacks on our soil, in my opinion, is that these people, with all their bluster, are afraid of George Bush and what he might do. They are afraid that if they pull something like that again Iraq might be a walk in the park and would mean even more American boots on the ground in places they don't want them. They just can't be sure of what the US might do under his leadership, and that is why they are biding their time. If we get a dovish adminstration, it could, and most likely would, get ugly real fast. All it will take is the first (and probably homegrown) jihadist to blow himself up in a mall somewhere and take several innocent American lives with him....and then it will be too late. It could happen, do not think for a moment it could not. They want dead Americans. They would prefer dead American citizens on our own ground. They prefer the cowardly fight. They do not prefer having to face our military. But they will, because they are dedicated to their belief, no matter how perverse it is, while all the time trying to get back on the playing field they prefer...cowardly suicide attacks. We will learn what Israel has had to live with for years, the hard way. Do you see where I am going with this? We NEED for them to remain afraid of what we might do if they start something like that. We need for them to respect our willingness to stand toe-to-toe for what we believe in. We need to demonstrate that we are willing to do so and not waver. We need to demonstrate a belief in our country and our way of life as strong as theirs is. We are already wavering as a country, and we need to suck it up and stand up straight again. It is time to wake up. We are not acting as the World police in Iraq. We are in a fight for our survival, the survival of a free country where we are not afraid to go into a mall or get in a car or go anywhere we wish without fear of suicide bombers, car bombs, being grabbed off the street and found without a head a week later. We do not need to join the hunker down and be quiet and maybe they will leave us alone club. That does not work. They are not going to leave us alone. No one is safe, for these people there is only one way....their way. They are not going to stop and go quietly away. That should be patently obvious. This is the most important issue that faces us. None of the rest of it will matter if we lose in Iraq. Take a moment to look at history, all the precursors of 9-11. Had we not gone into Iraq, and swept yet another incident under the rug (with Khobar Towers, the Cole, the Achille Lauro, Tanzania, Somalia, and on and on and on) there is no telling where we would be right now or what other awful things might have occurred. For those of you who cannot grasp that, who think that if we pull out of Iraq and pander to these people that everything will be all right....God help you. God help us all.
I say WAKE UP AMERICA too
isn't 8 years of Bush enough?????
Got a little wake up call....did ya?
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Gourdpainter, WAKE UP and USE YOUR HEAD
We are "voice experts" if you will with all of the work we do. That is most definitely his voice.
Just because there is no video does not mean he didn't say it.
Please listen to it along with other interviews. It is most certainly him.
Yep, me too :-) Just hope all is well when we wake up in the morning sm
no matter who wins!
wake up and smell the coffee......
If you weren't holding on to the sinking ship which is your faith in Obama, you might know what it's like to feel mean and bitter, instead of drowning in a sea of love for your president.
You just holding on to that love fest, cause it's all ya gonna have before long
Exactly! Sadly, Americans cant seem to wake up.
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Good one....its really time to wake up
I hope entire world can learn a lesson from this video and think about their declining population.
Sheeple, wake up or put your socialist hats on!
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Oh boy. WAKE UP. Follow the link before you post.
Both bills referred to here involve Equal/Fair pay remendies for WOMEN, not Congress.
Ignorance is bliss. Better wake up and smell
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You must mean those poor souls swimming upstream in the wake of
the one looming just above the horizon.
I was talking about the slander that is going on on this board! Wake up, Patty!..nm
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Maybe now peole will wake up and smell the SHIITE that Obama's been spreading.
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Human rights is an issue for you and your children... wake up and open your mind
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Yes! Don't you hate when you wake up happy, turn on theTV with a nice cup of coffee, and one of t
giving an interview (alibi) that not even HE OR HIS MOTHER could believe, defending spending millions of dollars renovating an office because "he could not possibly use it as it was, did not fit in," ARE YOU KIDDING??? Was it a stalag, did it have electricity, a desk, chair, and necessary electronics? Are there people out there, living and breathing, who actually THINK this way????? Tell that to the woman who has not eaten in days so that she can give a few morsels to her kids, trying to keep them warm with old blankets because the heat was shut off! The unbridled greed in this country (along with moral decay, and by that I do not just mean sex, I mean morals like charity, honesty, hard work, sacrifice, humanity), is what is destroying our country incredily quickly. It has been a hidden, ugly plague.......oh sorry, guys, I say this interview when my eyes were barely open and I think I popped a blood vessel just listening!!
We are blind.
We have become so successful that we have gotten a bit big for our britches here. Until 9/11, we thought nothing would happen on our own shores. Other countries hate us. When we declared war in Iraq, almost everyone turned their backs on us. Yet we continue to ship American jobs out of the country. We continue to buy food and products from other countries that may not have the best regulations. Here we have people's medical histories on our computer screens and the same information could very easily end up on someones computer screen in India to be typed. The outsourcing of transcription, in my opinion, is one of the dumbest things we have ever done. We are so arrogant that we often don't stop to see the big picture.
I love our country and I'm proud to be an American, but I am rather disappointed in how things are going in our country. We are in deep crap here and I hope and pray that we will get some people in Washington who have a brain and can change things for the best....granted....nothing can be a quick fix and I can't imagine things changing for a few years at least. I want a good change though. I won't vote for change just because it is different. What is the point of change if that change doesn't help in the long run?
You are so blind!
All you want to do is sit around and complain about things and point at one political party for the blame. You list issues like the war, economy, etc.....and yet when someone actually responds with information, you simply ignore it and say it is nonsense. What is nonsense is the fact that you never rebuttable with anything of significance. For once, post something of substance.
I'm not blind.
He has addressed the issues that are important to me personally.
John McCain and his cronies, on the other hand, only recently discovered there IS a middle class in the USA, you know, the "whiners."
you are so blind nm
There are none so blind as......... sm
those who will not see.
Personally, and bash away if you want, I feel that Bush did as good of a job as he could have with the hand he was dealt. I daresay no one on this board could have done a better job. If you want to bash me for that, get out the hammer, but I will not get into a shouting match with anyone here. Last time I checked, this was a free country (how much longer I will be able to say that remains to be seen) and I am entitled to my opinions.
I particularly liked this passage from this article and feel it speaks volumes of the climate in America today, not just on a national front but right down to the smallest governmental divisions, like small towns and schools.
"Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them."
There Is None So Blind As He Who Will Not See
If you choose to live in ignorance, it's up to you.
Wallow in it for all I care. Apparently you enjoy your intellectural oblivion, like all the other obamazombies.
And, seriously, 'babycakes?'
What are you, 9? Does your mommy know you're on her computer, dearie?
There are non so blind as those who will not see.
Personally, I hope you guys keep this up indefinitely since (as some of the GOP leaders have pointed out) it undermines the party's credibility and makes them all look like a bunch of fools.
How blind.........
First of all, O'Reilly has never ever suggested the man deserved what he got or anything close. That has even been talked about on his show with others saying he never suggested violence against this man, so quit regurgitating garbage you hear on liberal hate mongering outlets.....
Let's remember 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.... the man who killed Dr. Tiller should be prosecuted just like anyone else who takes another's life like that; however, keep in mind, Dr. Tiller has been murdering also by the thousands for many decades. He too was a murdered.
Why should O'Reilly be accountable for anything? Remember FREE SPEECH? He can say whatever he pleases just like the liberals who love to back abortionists.
"Are anti-choice groups celebrating today? An abortion doctor is dead so women won't have unwanted pregnancies!
I personally never celebrate anyone being murdered, even this man, even though I find it hard to understand how he could even step foot in a church knowing he murders the very lives God put here. Very hypocritical to say the least. But that is now between him and God...
Too bad you're so worried about the anti-choice groups you BELIEVE to be celebrating this man's death but you show no compassion at all for the babies he murdered for decades! Where's your concern for those children?
How about the war on terror including people like this doctor who slaughtered near-term babies for decades.. what exactly would you call him?
You are so narrow minded that you don't even get that there are many people who are against abortion that do not consider themselves religious.... you seem to be stuck on the term "religious" for some reason...
What do you call groups that push for murder of these unborn children? They're not TERRORISTS?!! What a hypocrit!
You are cold, blind to yourself and obviously
My question for you would be the same as the question the OP asked Sam. Who do you hate more? Blacks, the poor or Dems? Unless you are truly interested in knowing exactly what happened there and why people could not get out, I will not dignify your post with my time, much less my comments, other than to say that people there did not refuse to leave....they could not get out. 1863 people died in that city behind broken levies.
Here's one issue you might consider. Funding for the levies/US Corps of Engineers who are responsible for their maintenance…repeatedly cut to fund Iraq and tax cuts for the rich, despite repeated warnings of the need to shore up, maintain and/or replace them. The literature is out there for those who are interested. Let me say this much loud and clear. By no means is this the only factor. It is one of many. You show no real interest in understanding this and therefore, I have no real interest in debating with this kind of uninformed rhetoric.
I have lived on the Gulf Coast all my life. When Katrina happened, I was paying close attention. To blame the victims of this horror IS cold-blooded. You want to be that way, fine. No problem. But I will not stand by and be silent when I see this kind of stupidity. Whether you care or not, besides the 1863 who died there, there are refugees from Katrina in the 10s of thousands from the incompetence and failures of FEMA, withholding of federal emergency funds to the most heavily stricken areas, either deliberate or as a result a president who does not know how to read a map. Declaring emergencies is his job. At the very least, take a look at this map and tell me there isn't something wrong with this picture.
And by the way, this is not just about what happened during the storm or its immediate aftermath. This is also about failures that were NOT local leadership that occurred over and over and over again over months and years in the aftermath.
http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/637/1/
map
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102261.html
Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/
No one can say they didn't see it coming
Blind faith.....
In a way it is. I have faith that God is there for me. That doesn't mean things are sugar and honey all the time, because they're definitely not.
Jesus ask of to just have the faith of a mustard seed. He is asking us to have no more faith than that of the size of a mustard seed, which is meniscule, and you will be surprised where that will take you. You know, we are asked to ask questions of God, to seek him, and ask Him to prove Himself. What better way for God to show us his love than to ask Him to prove himself?
You might just see great things happen in your life.
The only blind eye here was turned toward
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It is sad that people are that blind.
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not blind or ignorant
I was going to vote for O but found that I just cannot due to the abortion issue. Do I like McCain. NO. So I am stuck. But not everyone that doesnt vote for O is a racist or stupid or blind. Just an FYI
Are you so blind as to what's happening in
this country that you truly still think McCain should've won? Do you not see what republicans do to our economy EVERY TIME? Are you enjoying this Bush Depression which is only just beginning? Our only hope is that Obama can at least slow it down, but Bush has already done the damage. Unemployment rates are soaring, homelessness is soaring, jobs are flying overseas with the blessing of republican corporate tax cuts and loopholes, the deficit is astronomical now, etc. etc. etc. The rich are getting richer & the middle class is getting poorer. It's a deja vu of the Reagan/Bush years. Get your head out of the sand & pay attention to what's happening economically to this country. I don't give a flying flip about this idiotic birth certificate argument or any of the other thousand fake issues Fox has invented to get it's viewers fired up. What I DO care about is the economy & Americans losing their jobs and homes because of republicanomics.
Plus PM Brown is going blind. nm
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Bush picks on the blind.sm
It was inadvertent, but still funny that he is such a dodo. Was going to post the link on Wonkette, but there was a curse word on that page, and did not want the 3 Bush supporters over on the other board to get their undies in a knot.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Bush-Sunglasses.wmv
Apparently you turn a blind eye
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and turned a blind eye to all the rest
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So smug. So self assured. So blind to anyone's
With any luck, she lives on the Gulf coast in a low-lying mobile home park.
Sometimes I do too, and I don't turn a blind eye to the the "party"
and its mistakes and exactly why we are in the shape we are in. I do not check my principles nor my thinking at the door of the DNC as you apparently do. The Democrats lost any high ground they had when they denied having anything to do with this and blamed it entirely on Republicans. Totally lacking in integrity.
Maybe "sometimes" is the operative word here.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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Turned a blind eye? Did you hear what
the "frightened senile old woman" had just called Louis Farrakhan's Messiah? Maybe next time Sen. McC will just let the crowd go, as O did this morning. After McC stood up like the man he is in front of his own, this morning when O was "acknowledging him," his someone from his own crown yelled "shoot him." I can assure you, you will not here a word of this on CNN or MSNBC and probably not anywhere else, but I heard it. O hesitated, smiled and kept kept on ranting. Now, when this happened at McC's rally, he was inciting riotous behavior and creating havoc, but O is calming his crowds. There is such a double standard in this election it is pathetic.
Then you're blind, deaf, and
pretty dumb seeing as there's a page full of whining about it further down.
I don't even know where YOU are coming from, no BLIND allegiance here at all.....sm
I would rather work hard for a solution, admit when I am wrong, and move on with things. Too much whining, crying, finger-pointing, name-calling....it is like a badly-controlled daycare center here most days. We have a huge problem that our kids and grandkids are going to inherit, I only said I would support my president and a country, so put your claws in and get a clue.
Obama deception......only the blind will not see!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756
Color blind here and voting for Obama. However, sm
I heard on the news today that people saying they will not vote for him because he is a Muslim (he is not) because it it politically incorrect to say they will not vote for him because he is black. I think that no one on this board will admit to not voting for him because he is black, the Bradley effect is alive and well I think.
Bigotry is blind as you have so eloquently illustrated.
Canadians, progressive Americans, Pakistanis, the French, Saudis and a whole bunch of other folks understand that we now live in a global community. The internet has been a great equilizer...where anybody anywhere can weigh in and get the respect they deserve, even when they are "diffefrent" from us or when they disagree. The global community is a nice place to live. It's in the here and now, not mired in the past. Why don't you get with the program and try it out sometime? It beats the heck out of fear and hate.
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