Blaming wrong people......
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-09
In Reply to: For gosh sakes, the media, they always - Save the planet, resist the O agenda
Blame the freakin' banks and CEOs - Wall St., speculators driving up housing costs (just like they are driving up gas costs, again). Barney Frank didn't bag all these mortgages into derivatives and then bet on the derivatives......Sheesh. When I refinanced my other home (yes, we have 2), I was told my loan would probably be sold. It never was. Probably because the payments were always made on time. (this was 5-6 years ago). My husband was laid off the first of the year (I don't work due to medical problems). My kids are paying the mortgage on the 2nd house. (I had a house when I married, then we bought a house together right before we were married). We don't have a pot to pss in, but, we have 2 houses to worry about. Can't sell 'em and our mortgage on the house WE live in is cheaper than rent.
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Holding people accountable and blaming
people are 2 different things. Blaming either party will get us nowhere. The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.
Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future. Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem. If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up. If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position).
I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill. You said as a general statement to all dems.
You are what is wrong with me. You and people like you. SM
Your antiwar views and support of people like Cindy Sheehan put our troops at RISK. You cannot or will not see that because you are having just too darn much fun. You attacked the sm poster for something you perceived she was saying, that being a negative post about American Indians, but you were WRONG and you have been wrong before, accusing people of saying things I clearly remember another poster saying and you NEVER SAY YOU ARE SORRY. What is wrong with YOU??? I'm sorry, there isn't any nice way to tell you what I think of you. Read the letter by the Marine on the conservative board. He lays it all out for you and there can be no pretense that you care about the troops when you read that letter.
What's wrong with you people? I am not sam.....sm
And quite frankly, the trend I see, is that you guys think you always have to have the last word, which makes you think you're right all the time. I just mostly ignore it all, though, because if it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll let you.
I just wish some of you guys weren't always so meanspirited to the right.
But again, I'm not sam. "ms" are my initials.
Wrong! Their may have been some people that...sm
would say McCain was pandering to the black voter if Powell had been his choice, but I think that most intelligent Americans have great respect for him, democrat and republican, and such insinuations would have been a non issue. I would have said wow, is CP qualified to be president, yes, much different than my opinion of Sarah Palin.
What is wrong with you people?.....(sm)
We should take them out once and for all? With what? Nukes? That would kill how many innocent civilians? Now there's a plan...NOT. I know, let's invade them. Uh-oh....that's right, our military is spread so thin right now that it's next to useless....wonder why that happened...hmmm. I know, how about we reinstate the draft. How many of your kids are you willing to send?
You said, "While O is trying to reduce our defense abilities, these leaders are building up theirs." Wrong again. What you should have said was, while Bush was wasting all our military resources on BS to advance his political agenda, these leaders were building up their defense capabilities. And why would they do that? My guess would be to protect themselves from rogue nations --- like ours was under Bush.
Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that "a big stick" isn't the answer to everything? In case you haven't noticed, this kind of thinking is one of the main reasons your party is now on the brink of extinction.
Please. They are both eligible. What is wrong with you people? sm
McCain's parents were both American citizens and his father was serving the US in the canal zone when he was born and Obamas's mother was born in Kansas for God's sake. What is wrong with you people that no one wants to talk about the issues? Doesn't say much about the intelligence of voters when they cannot grasp a simple concept like citizenship.
Then you are hanging around the wrong people (sm)
I don't associate myself with prejudiced people if I can help it. The fact is I am a registered democrat and am not voting for Obama based on his associations (Rev. Right, Ayers, etc)and his stance on partial-birth abortion. I don't care one iota about his race. However, I do think it would be great for America to have a black president, just not Obama. A good upstanding, honest and truly patriotic black man would be great. I would love to not vote for McCain, but I cannot in good conscience vote for Obama.
You said you enjoyed proving people wrong...
then provide your source. And provide some more current statistics. That is all I asked for. A simple request. If you can't, you can't. No biggie.
What is wrong with you people. Post, ignore,
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Sorry you are wrong. ACORN hired people off...sm
the street for an hourly wage. They had a quota of how many people they were supposed to register, many were lazy and forged the applications, and then ACORN did not verify that the registrations were legit before they sent them in. There was NO oversight in some states, thus the problem.
"why people think Muslim is wrong"
I didn't say "I think Muslim is wrong."
Wrong. People are afraid to question O about
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You guys are focusing on the wrong people
there are always a few stragglers in the crowd, in every race and every political party (like that guy who stood up and said kill him)in the McCain campaign, every religion and every walk of life, just people who say whatever they are feeling at any given time acting like they were raised by wolves out back in the woods. You can't let them upset you. You will be upset every day.
I voted for Pres. Obama and I didn't agree with the booing either. I didn't hear it first of all, but I believe you it happened and I would have wanted to hide under the table myself. That was rude, especially at an event of such caliber. so I would have to agree with you on that one.
Maybe they will learn to do better along their path in life. I don't think they can hardley be counted as how the majority of his supporters would behave.
Wrong! I happen to love my country and its people.
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Totally wrong because the most educated people vote for Obama sm
That is a fact. The dumb, uneducated vote repub, the greedy rich vote repub and the religious right vote repub. The college educated people vote Obama. Why do you think McBush and Failin are out there calling Joe SixPack etc... that's their only hope. They know the filthy rich without conscience will vote for them. They know the religiouis nuts but some of the eehaas and dummies have been going to Obama and McBush and Failin are freaking out a little.
Thank you for not blaming
I think we can all agree that there is a lot wrong and we hope it can be fixed. Too many people seemed to be focused on blaming someone instead of coming up with solutions. I really get tired of people blaming Bush for stuff that is not his fault. I agree he has not been one of the best presidents, but neither was Carter or Clinton (and I voted for both of them), but sometimes we have to just put our ego aside and try and find some solutions. I'm sure the people who are out of work are not looking to blame someone, they just want to know how it's going to be fixed. I believe both sides have had a part in the way our economy is. It is niether solely one or the others.
What are you blaming him for?
Nothing bad has happened that is not a repercussion of previous administrations.
He's only been in office for 60-plus days for goodness sakes. Give the man a chance.
I don't think SPENDING money in the US is blowing money. I think blowing money is money spent on a bad-intentioned war that killed and maimed thousands.
So what would you do... let the water stagnate... just not do anything? Please link me to the Republicans' solution/plan for getting us out of what they got us into. thank you.
Just because I'm tired of the blaming and
bashing on both sides? Okay. You win. It's all the Dem's fault and everyone should run them out of the country.
Help me understand why nobody is blaming the Big 3?
I feel like everybody is blaming the wrong people for the problems the car industry is facing... I think it is the car industry themselves who should take responsibility for getting themselves out of the mess they are in or else shut their doors. Every other business in America does that. If they cannot handle the financial part of their business, then they go out of business...
I understand that it is going to put a lot of people in a bad situation and I feel very sorry for them, I really do. However, I don't think it is my responsibility to have to pay more to help them. Is that not the same thing that everyone has been fussing about, "redistributing the wealth"? I feel sure right now if the company I worked for were in financial trouble, they would close their doors because the government is not going to step in and help them, and I feel sure I would be sitting here with no job and no income and nobody is going to step up to do a bailout package for the transcription companies.
How about the construction workers? Is the government working on a bailout for them? What about the electricians, the plumbers? It all has to end at some point. I personally feel like we are all in the same boat right now and that we are all going under, so why do we have to throw more money on top of bad money to delay the inevitable?
Not blaming Obama. Who was
The lucrative virus contract was awarded the day before Obama became president. Which party has admitted they have a lot to gain if America gets **hit** again? Who had a supposed homeland security **bioterror** plan within the last 8 years? The timing of this is very interesting with Cheney saying in the last couple weeks that Obama can't keep us safe and voila! There's a brand new flu that combines all the ones we were told for the last few years could trigger a **pandemic**, especially the bird flu. Oh and now some **experts** are saying this very well could have started in America and not Mexico. Since 2001, the only grip republicans had on Americans was fear and they used it often. Too convenient.
Just saying and blaming 'propaganda' is not enough, .........sm
give us YOUR version of the truth.
Hello!
Are you still there?
next thing you know she will be blaming sm
the gays because she burned her toast this morning!
Are they blaming conservatives
and pro-life people for one person who lied? It seems to me like these pro-life people were trying to be supportive and be there for someone that they really thought needed them. How where they supposed to know that they were being lied to? Instead of blaming conservatives as a whole on this one, why aren't they placing the blame on the ignorant woman who was addicted to blogging and made all of this up? I just don't get the logic some of you people have. One person lied and so all these pro-lifers came to her aid thinking she needed it and somehow it isn't the liars fault.....it is the pro-lifers. Yeah...makes perfect sense.....sheesh
There ARE reasons beyond blaming Bush...
for the haves and the have nots. How many of those people wandering the streets worked hard in school, applied for FREE tuition at the local college (which they most certainly qualify for based on income), waited until they were married to have kids, and on and on? WIth 70% of African-American babies born to single women these days, it's no wonder that poverty runs rampant among the African-American communities. It's sad, it's tragic, and I'd go there right now to give ANY of those people all the food and water I have in my house right now, but you cannot totally blame others for their financial position... Most of it comes from poor personal choices. This is a country of opportunity and people only need to be smart and avail themselves of it.
It is no more of a stretch than blaming McCain for it...
and that is what many are trying to do. Shame on THEM. Why don't you correct them as well?
blaming someone you know nothing about for something that hasn't happened
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Hypocrisy is aplogizing and blaming someone else
Voters are tired...real tired...of this party's double speak.
Ohmigod - now you are blaming the flu on Obama?
I think now I have heard it all!
I understand how you can blame some things on President Obama, but to say that he could not keep the country safe because there is a flu outbreak? That just beats it all in my book - let's take it one step further, why don't we?
This just goes to show that he is not capable of leading the world in that New World Order, so we better hurry up and find somebody else to do that!
And O's making it worse by FAR....blaming...sm
it on the last administration doesn't get it anymore, Amanda - it's now OBAMA'S watch and all he can do is spend, spend, spend. I guess it's gonna have to take you being broke while the big wheels sit back and laugh for you to get it? Sad, very very sad!
Time to stop blaming Clinton
..
Do you know how silly the libs sound by blaming everything
that happened in the last eight years on Bush?
I predict, that Obama will not take responsibility for anything that happens in next two years at least, maybe four....it will all be Bush's fault in some way.
And those won't be my words. They will be Obama's words.
Wait and see.
How much confidence can you have in president who takes no personal responsibility, or a Congress that takes no personal responsibility in their own legislation, blaming Bush for their own bailout legislation that they wrote?
Dems always change the rules.
It's happening again, slowly and surely.
Michelle Bachmann blaming Obama
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It's "phase"...... time to stop blaming Bush
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You've got to be kidding me? Defending their actions and blaming on Bush?
Sure, they have a right to be "activists" and to march and to protest. They do not have a right to smash in windows and vandalize property. What's worse is that many of these are not ativists. They have NO IDEA what they are protesting against. Ask them who the vice president of our country is, they can't tell you. They are young foolish kids who think it's fun to be out there causing trouble and posing as "activists" with a cause. It's rather inane to equate these things with true activists.
wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Wrong Woman - Wrong Message
http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-wrong-woman-wrong-message
Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu.
Horse hockey
Sorry about that...wrong board, wrong name
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So you and your daughter have no problem with people who wish for people and their children sm
to burn in hell, call people's children ugly, etc. etc. Well, you might not BE gt, but you might as well be. Even the liberals don't agree with gt, or hadn't you noticed? You might want to check that out and while you are at it, the conservative board has been a regular play pen since the liberals stopped their hateful dive bombing. In fact, some really good conversations are taking place over there between both sides, which DOES NOT happen on this site.
Bored people are BORING people.
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Is that how your people justify killing people?
You're right. Something is definitely wrong
Not with the priests who do the molesting.
Not with the Senator who absolves the priests of blame and instead blames the Liberals.
No. Instead something is definitely wrong with ME for my outrage that a Republican Senator can make such an outlandish, IRRESPONSIBLE statement, instead of trying to SAVE these children and condemning what the priests are doing. Unfortunately, this is typical of the Republican party these days. Typical of the "We are perfect and make no mistakes" mentality that's prevalent in this country. They couldn't be honest if their lives depended on it.
Well, tell us what's wo wrong about what he says?
 You can't, because he just pegged the lot of you like he always does which is why he has the top rated radio show in the country
You got it wrong....
Many of us liberals do not have delicate thoughts about terrorists. But get it through your brain, if you can, that many of us feel that invading Iraq for oil and power WAS NOT THE WAY TO attack or deal with the terrorists. Apparently they're mostly in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and what are we doing? Messing around in Iraq. We are LESS safe and I think time will prove that.
WRONG. You know what is
Not everyone is a liar. Only the ones who have done it on this board before and don't deserve to be trusted or believed again.
It's quite simple. If you want to be believed, stop lying.
Then that was wrong
absolutely wrong, and the teacher and school administration were clearly in the wrong. Shouldn't have happened, period.
Wrong.
What posts are you talking about? Either I wasn't here then or you're wrong. I've read through most of the posts but don't remember seeing that. Prove it.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!
You called her an elitist pig, claiming to mean it in a good way.
She replied with Yup, elistist pig here..Yeehhaaww~~
And now you’re claiming she said she speaks for God.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!
So was I wrong? And if not...
...what are you getting so huffy about? Just for the fun of it? There's no arrogance in assuming you aren't one of the 1% of the richest people in the country. It's a natural assumption considering you spend so much time here, and why would you bother if you could be off doing whatever pleased you with money being no object? I'm certainly not one of the 1% and you bet I'd be doing something rather than putting up with your petty indignation if I had a virtually limitless income. So I didn't assume a thing about you that you were not free to assume about me in return. What's the big deal -? Are you ashamed anyone might think you're not in the top 1% of wealthiest Americans? Mighty fragile ego, that. Better face reality and get a grip - that's a pretty exclusive club.
What is WRONG with you? sm
Seriously what IS wrong with you? This has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Except yet one more occasion to use the word LIAR.
WRONG!
I corrected myself. I admitted to my mistakes. I always admit to my mistakes, and believe me, I make a lot of them. I'm even harsher on me than the neocons are.
If the neocons could just admit to theirs, the dialogue might be more productive.
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