Blah, blah, blah . . . same old tired rhetoric.
Posted By: riddle me this on 2009-06-12
In Reply to: All is fair in love and war. - Trigger Happy
"changed their minds to save our lives". Wow, you really believe that crap don't you? Yea, that's right, let's be like all the other barbaric countries that use torture. Two wrongs don't make a right. By the way, I do believe that ANYONE involved in giving the go ahead on "enhanced interrogation" should be prosecuted -- pubs and Dems alike.
It's been proven time and time again that torture does not give reliable results. In fact, one of the most reliable pieces of information was obtained from giving a diabetic a cookie. Yea, I guess treating someone like a human being just doesn't work.
I am much less terrified by the "terrorists over there" than I am by the crazy rightwing loonies here in the country. Those are the ones you really should be concerned about!!
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blah, blah, blah yourself - talk about no intellingent conversation
What do you mean who are we trying to convince? There is nothing to convince when the message holds true. And for only reading the 1st sentence of my message like you said you did, you sure commented on the entire message.
Maybe you should not reply to something you have no idea what is being talked about - but then again that is the MO of the libs.
What the heck are you talking about McCain and Cheney are hoping for further attacks on American soil. Just because you want that to be true and because Olberman and Matthews say it, doesn't mean it is. That is what you crats do best, listen to the talking heads but don't reason for yourself on what is right or wrong.
The truth is we are at much greater risk for attack now that your lord is in. Can't blame that on the last admin. Your lord is the one bowing to his king, and apologizing for everything happening, and selling our country to the highest bidder. Your lord is the one bringing down the country and there you are defending him.
Maybe you want socialism to rule in the country but many of us do not. We are patriots who believe in the constitution and who have served in the military to fight for the freedoms you so enjoy. So enjoy it while you can.
Blah, blah, blah and you say she's long winded?
Don't mess with Texas...blah, blah, blah....
I think you are not aware that nobody gives a s _ _ _ about Texas! The only persons I had a high esteem for and were from Texas was Ann Richards and Lyndon B. Johnson. Texas, according to Texans, has always been bigger and better than any other state. I lived in Austin for one year. The first greeting I saw upon entering Texas was on a billboard. It said: Welcome to Texas, Now go home! I think you're a bunch of big mouths and boasters, and I was glad to leave. Why don't you just vote for McCain and spare us your moaning and groaning...the rest of the United States probably wish you had lost at the Alamo!
blah, blah, blah, I read only the 1st sentence and
here we go again...blah, blah, blah...broken record!
Whom do you Republicans try to convince?
Youselves?
Like McCain and Cheney who
are hoping and even wishing for further attacks on the American soil, so that they can prove that all the B* they did during these 8 years was justified?
And to prove that O's strategy is wrong and they were right.
The 9 years are over!
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blah, blah, that's all there is to converse about your long comment...nm
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You and your Christian BS. Wouldn't expect anything less from people who believe in the emaculate conception. What an i d i o t. Do you know how to spell reality? Oops, guess not 'cause ya certainly don't deal with it.
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Hi Lurker!! Since you are the only one who seems to feel it necessary to post things like this. I wasn't being disrespectful in any way. If I was, I am sure the moderator would have deleted my posts. Many of you on this board don't even respect the moderator. Fact is, I've seen many on this board attack the moderator and administrator. It is people like you who don't follow the rules. But hey, it's Christmas and I am not going to get caught up in your silly immature games. Have a good one!
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...
Just more right-wing propaganda floating around cyberspace in e-mails.
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Same thing rehashed over and over again below. You will never reach the cold-hearted, evil ones with your message, so you should probably just give up, lol!
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Same thing rehashed over and over again below. You will never reach the cold-hearted, evil ones with your message, so you should probably just give up, lol!
 -- Now it's been said twice, so it must be twice as funny.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...I've heard it all before. It's horrible. But the post was not about Bush and his cronies. It would be nice for you to stick to the content and talk about what a poster talks about instead of bring up the same ol blah, blah, blah.
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sorry, but again..blah, blah blah...sm
there is war in the 'air' on several fronts and you worry whom Obama is meeting in the White House?
Maybe next time he should INVITE you to his secret meetings?
Isn't this going too far?
He is the President of the United States of America and you are a citizen!
Coulter..blah.., LOL
Well, I gotta tell ya, on Huffingtonpost, the posted Coulters idiotic remarks about New York surrendering in an attack and, OMG, the come back posts have been hilarious, LMBO. to the tune of, I want to beat your a__, Coulter, Coulter, hope you dont eat in NY restaurants anymore, cause you wont find a table, LOL. I invite you to scroll to the lower part of the Huffingtonpost page (hope the article is still up) and read some of the posters giving their 2 cents about Coulters comments. Hey, you know what, I am a New Yorker and I gotta tell ya, put me and Coulter together for whatever..civil debate (sure..sure), fistacuffs, I would win hands down..Yeehhaaww..Oh, oh, am I gonna be reported to the administrator by some cry baby conservative now? Geez..Louise..
Blah blah blah - whine whine whine
Go away. You're a bore.
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Same old Big Blah - yawn
I work as an MT because it's easy and pays a boatload. It's a hobby. Not a profession. At least for me.
guns, fear, what a post, blah
Nah, I dont think terrorists will come my way but, however, when I move back to NY next year (cant wait), if a terrorist decides to blow up my beloved subway system or Long Island railroad, I dont think a gun would mean much. I do suggest Bush check out our borders cause right now Im living in CA, two hours from the Mexican border and it is quite easy to get across, without a problem at all and he should also check out the trucking industry cause there has been a question that possibly they can blow up trucks but, however, you cant live your life in fear. Im not afraid..Im living my life as I have. Im not afraid to die..With introspection, however, I am a bit fearful of suffering, so if it ever happened, I would hope I would die, not suffer, ya know?
rhetoric rhetoric - just tell people what they want to hear, it worked in 2000 and 2004 right?
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Rhetoric?
I don't know what posts you have been reading, friend Lurker, with the anything to do with hatred, loving terrorists, etc., are directed at the post containing just that thing. One poster who shall remain nameless stated emphatically that investigating Bush took precedence over terrorism. To me, that is a statement supporting terrorism, and while maybe not idiotic, does not seem to me to be a very smart thing to say, considering Amadinejad stated this morning he wanted the next group of Al Qaeda leaders to come from Iran and that he was sending the US a message soon. And then this afternoon, we find out that the nuclear watchdog group found plutonium in the nuclear waste at the Iranian nuclear plant. But your liberal friend who proudly calls herself so wants to investigate Bush rather than concentrate on terrorism. That would be laughable if it were not that a great number of liberals are in full agreement with her. Which is concerning to say the least. Several who post the liberal board and on the conservative board who clearly identify themselves as liberals do hate democracy (evident in their posts), make frequent statements in support of terrorism (taking attention off them is supporting them), spout socialist policies (why they are called socialists)...if you don't fall into any of those categories, should be no big deal to you. You are including yourself in the group saying we. Liberals come to the conservative board too. Conservatives are not the only ones who cross over boards.
Rhetoric
Per Onelook:
▸ noun: study of the technique and rules for using language effectively (especially in public speaking) (hmmm...yep)
▸ noun: using language effectively to please or persuade (okay, I get it)
▸ noun: high flown style; excessive use of verbal ornamentation (ohh, for sure!)
▸ noun: loud and confused and empty talk (that's the nuts and bolts of it)
As far as rhetoric is concerned, I would say O has it mastered.
Palin was speaking the truth, plain and simple, and she has the record to prove it. Get over it. If you are so embarrased, go live somewhere else.
Where is all of "O's" big bipartisan rhetoric now?
Obviously that is all it was....rhetoric. Preached we had to work across the aisle...bipartisanship...to get things done. And now, with the biggest crisis this country has faced in decades, and he has a chance to put his money where his mouth is...what does he do? Decides what is best for Barack, and that is the tack he takes. ANY credibility he had left with me is gone.
Admit what? Your rhetoric?
BTW, brush your teeth - your breathe stinks - I know where your head has been.
This pub party rhetoric is at least 50 years old.
applies to the 21st century please?
Guess not. 50-year-old rhetoric
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Here's the deal. This kind of rhetoric is exactly
and does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of your broken down party and the dirth of leadership you are currently experiencing. This kind of disconnect between your party and the rest of us is exactly what you should be spending your time trying to come to terms with.
Being a democrat, it is fine with me if you persist along these lines, since it would serve to ensure similar election results next time around, but for your own sakes, you guys really do need to GET A GRIP.
Bitter self-serving rhetoric?
I have absolutely no personal ties whatsoever to the middle east, so exactly why would I be bitter, and what would I have to gain? Your statement makes no sense. The main benefit of actually recognizing the history of the region (as opposed to the Israeli version of the *truth*) would be for better political relations with the middle east. Have you noticed that the rest of the world sees what's going on? Why do you think there is so much resentment in the middle east for the US? Israel (or rather our empowering of it and it's abuse of that power) is one of the main problems over there.
Why would I care about your opinion? I don't. There are very few people's opinions that I actually value on this board. Those would be the ones who can actually discuss a subject with reasonable viewpoints, and guess what? Most of them disagree with me on most everything. LOL
I'm simply trying to get you to stay on the subject, which is obviously a lost cause.
Your rhetoric was meaningless months ago...
and it is just as meaningless today. I supported Obama then, and I support him now, as do all of the people who voted for him. It must be miserable to live with such hate in your heart. I would pity you, but it seems that you are doing a pretty good job of that on your own.
No difference. Fact is that primary rhetoric
whenever you try depict rhetoric reversals as LIES, the challenge of your own candidates reversals will be waiting for you. Lame game and pointless.
Yes Sam, Biden is running with O. JB is a 35-year veteran in the Senate and if he felt O was not prepared for office, why then is is willing to place himself on the same ticket? JB knows what he is doing. There is no stronger statement of support than that. No brownie points for you on that one.
Day by day, we will be seeing dems, pubs and indies surface from Alaska who have bones to pick with SP. Wonder why that is? You can try to discredit and dismiss them to your heart's content, but you cannot ignore the fact that the public is never that forgiving and these types of testimonials will have impact on voter confidence. Funny how the verifiable facts that are a matter of public record included in Kilkenny's comments seem to have completely escaped your notice. Those facts will stand for what they are...challenges to the claims that she and the party are making about her fiscal responsibility and evidence of her tendency to want to run the show, run over anybody who gets in her way and take revenge on those would would oppose her. Not such a breath of fresh air after all, and looking a bit on the hypocritical side...a trait that some people associate with dishonesty. So yeah, whose lies and whose truths are not for you or I to decide. We have no choice here except to do our homework, put our views out there and leave it up to the voters to decide.
Actually, nasty, tacky, low-class rhetoric is exactly that,
You seem mighty sure of yourself while you presume to speak for a complete stranger.
I would think with all your anti-semetic rhetoric that you would be a big fan of Hitler's!
Oh the hypocrasy!
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No, work for a living, and have heard all the liberal rhetoric before.
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Bush just casually reverses 5 years of rhetoric. sm
How many more lies before everyone wakes up?
Editorial Toledo Blade: Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the 9/11 terrorist attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls, believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton claiming I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for perjury. But the public record includes repeated statements by the President, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11 attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, We know that Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. … We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address: And this Congress and the American people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda.
And in his Mission Accomplished photo op, May 1, 2003: In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front.
Mr. Cheney was even more specific: In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning more and more about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda. This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims. In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam had long-established ties with al-Qaeda.
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of suggested is, but this much is clear: The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that nobody has ever suggested that the Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush presidency.
Bush starts changing his tune/rhetoric.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061112/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq
I understand the moral stance, but feel the rhetoric is over-the-top.....sm
This man is NOT pro-abortion, as many of us are not. He is preserving the right of choice for ALL women, and does not believe that a poor woman who has undergone a rape, incest, domestic violince/intimidation situation, or even has just accidentally gotten pregnant with a child she cannot carry for medical, emotional, or financial reasons....I hate abortion also, but if Americans are to be equal, then a poor woman needs to have resources available to her which would be available to others, or you are damning her to the back-alley abortionists. That is reality. I, Myself, married 18 years, vigilantly spacing my children and on birth control, came up with an unexpected, very difficult pregnancy. Yes, we made the choice to love and take this baby into the world, but we also had SOME resources and family, some girls do not.
There are not many folk who are PRO ABORTION, but preserving the individual choice, though abhorrent to many of us, is part of true liberty. And God Himself will judge as appropriate.
And I do feel that those few who use abortion as a means of birth control, well there should be restrictions and a definite "no."
You're a good little communist/socialist/marxist in your rhetoric..nm
Translation: I watch a lot of Fox News and stick strictly to party rhetoric.nm
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As we are tired of YOU!
Why can't you comply with the moderator's request not to bash posts here? If we are so offensive do you, why do you come here other than to stir up trouble?
Tired MT=SAM
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I have been dog-tired and still know how
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