Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...

• O - shelly
  • That is really out of line and - Mrs. M
    • Mrs. M, you don't do your homework.... - O most certainly has done this....
    • Only hate when coming from the other side? - Too bad you never recognize your own.nm
    • Sure, and what is posted about Palin is nothing - but lies too?
    • Why is it out of line to say things about - isit2012yet
      • Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple... - Mrs. M
        • How many of his books have you read? - and know little history to boot
        • Hate to say it, but you are acting like a child. - Backwards typist
        • You are in such denial. - You will wake up soon when you see
        • A comparison has been drawn.... sm - m
        • she isnt the OP, I am - shelly
      • my sentiments exactly - shelly
    • So.... - m

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While parts of this may be from a court brief, they are taken wholly out of context and your entire posting is a cut and paste from a neocon website article.  Time to 'fess up!

Your source of "facts" will always be totally different from the liberal board's source of facts so we are never going to agree on much of anything in general.  SO therefore we cannot debate. 

There are so many things that I don't agree with him on.  You can't raise taxes for small businesses in this time of crisis.  You can't have all of these government assisted programs and only tax the rich because that won't be enough to cover all the expenses.  He will have to tax us all including the middle  class which he professes to want to help even though "spreading the wealth" will keep us down in the middle class because we won't be able to afford to make it into the upper tax bracket.  Basically his plans are aimed to help the lowlife scum who don't want to work.  As for his healthcare......like Oldtimer said below.....you can't make insurance companies pay for pre-existing conditions like that.  If no one wants to pay for health insurance until they have a major illness.....these insurance companies are supposed to pay for a pre-existing condition when this person is just now paying insurance premiums.  The insurance companies won't have any money to pay out if that is how it will work because no one will want to pay for insurance until something major happens.  It just won't work that way because it can't.

Obama is a socialists through and through.  I'm tired of the media and his supporters ignoring his associations.  I'm tired of people throwing up the race card.  It is just absolutely ridiculous.  Just because I'm a white woman not voting for Obama....that doesn't make me racist.  Yet you never hear about the people voting for Obama just because he is black.....is that not also racist? 

This whole election is just screwed up.  I hope to God that this next debate has something in it worth watching and I hope McCain tears Obama a new butthole! 

Where did you get your debating skills?  On the south side of Chicago in some street gang?  Because if you did, it shows.

In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks.  Yet, that's all you people know how to do.  You can't stay on the issue.  You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years.  In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity. 

As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you.  Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers).  If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker.  You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere.  It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn. 

As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found.  Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time.  Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums.  Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.

Have a pleasant evening.

Adults acting like children once again.  Proves my point every time. 

Right down to the music that is being played in the background.  Anyone can take bits and pieces of articles and flash them on the screen.  Those aren't facts. 

The democrates did not cause the financial crisis. Here are some real facts:

Since 1960 the nation's deficit has risen during every republican administration and dropped during every democratic administration. 

The standard of living and income has improved for everyone in the country during every democratic administration since 1960, EVEN for the top 1% of the country.  It has gotten worse for everyone in the country during every republican adminstration EXCEPT the top 1%. 

While Nixon and Ford were in office interest rates for mortgages had ballooned to 11%-13% and many people in this country could not afford to buy a home.  Carter brought those rates down so that more people in this country could afford to buy homes. 

What caused this mess is not the people who were extended credit.  Here is part of what caused it:  Banks issued subprime mortgages to people at a rate they could initially afford but which would increase to an inflated rate after a period of time.  Those banks then immediately sold those mortgages at the inflated rates to other banks. First-time home buyers were especially targeted.  A lot of them didn't understand what they were getting into because it was misrepresented to them.  They didn't know, for example, they could not refinance for a period of time without huge penalities.  Then the market started to decline and many of those homeowners found themselves upside down on their loans and they were unable to refinance.  Their interest rates had ballooned to rates they could no longer afford.  As homeowners lost their homes the banks who were sold the loans at inflated prices were no longer able to collect on those loans.  But the banks (and the CEOs) that initated those loans walked away with a great deal of money. 

It was because of greed.  And the deregulation that the republicans passed allowed it to happen. 

not supported by any available information.

We had one last year for the bedroom. It died a week after the warranty ran out. Didn't last a full winter and we only turned it on 2 hours before going to bed.  

Try getting in touch with them. Couldn't find a phone number. Found the ad and wrote a letter. Never heard a thing.

This is coming from someone who trained at the gym for 2 years with a black guy.  Yeah, I'm racist, all right.

Like Bill Clinton said, "they played the race card from the bottom of the deck!"

Are THEY just plain stupid or do they think WE are? 

you should have been able to process is that I would rather war not occur on US soil.  Saddam brutally murdered mass numbers of people. I believe he had WMD, but it doesn't matter what I think or what other people think because the proof that he did have WMD was clear with the murder of all those people.  Take a look at some of the few survivors and see that scars that remain.  Oh, and let's not forget about one of his favorite pasttimes, beheading. That sick SOB had connections in several countries and was a serious threat to every single country on the planet.  A person has to be absolutely stupid to think that all going to Iraq was and is about is oil. The people of Iraq are liberated, they're free, they're voting, all things they never dreamed of having under Saddam's rule.  Are there still problems with insurgants? Absolutely. Change doesn't happen overnight, it takes time and that's why our men and women are still there.  Their job isn't done.  If you ask service people what they think, they'll tell you the same thing.  My cousin, by marriage, is a major in the Army, been in the service for 18 years, and knows that it's not time for President Bush to pull the troops out yet.  So, now that I've posted my 2 cents, I'm going to add that I'm not Republican, I'm not Democrat, I don't vote by party, I vote by who I think will get the job done. I mentioned that because I don't want readers thinking that I MUST be a Republican just because of what I posted.