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Barney Frank.....what planet did he fall off

Posted By: of again? sm on 2009-06-22
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Barney Frank wants less govt and state rights when it comes to drugs.... but he wants "regulation" and "more enforcement" when it comes to everything else that takes away MY rights...... what a joke!


 




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Know that. That's my name for Barney Frank.
Kinda fitting, I think.
Barney Frank is a big culprit in this...

however, it is the HOMEOWNERS responsibility to READ YOUR CONTRACT. Geesh people, the lenders did loan to those they knew couldn't pay, but the people who bought a $300,000 home making $50,000 cannot be excused, they too bear responsibility. Anyone facing foreclosure now who gets bailed out should never be allowed to own another home without 20% or more CASH downpayment. We make our mortgage payment on time every month, add extra to the principal, have never been late, have never taken out a HELOC or a second mortgage and yet we are expected to help those out who probably shouldn't have bought a home in the first place.


Barney Frank (D) is the one who several years ago pushed the mortgage lenders to lend to EVERYONE so all could have homes. Read the Boston Globe Op-Ed piece by Jeff Jacoby for a good explanation.


What does anything Barney Frank said have to do with Obama? nm
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It's Barney Frank's fault??!!??!!
Thanks for the laugh!
Thanks to Barney Frank and his snivling
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Barney Frank is a nut! He would also not listen re
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More on Barney Frank and fannie/freddie...
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Barney Frank is to blame for the economic
BUT, Barney Frank is to blame for the corrupt government interference in mortgages and forcing banks to loan to people who by no means had any business trying to buy a home!!

Barney Frank has been in Congress since 1981. He has been the head of the Financial Services Committee and has been in charge of pushing all these government regulations onto banks.....

LETS CALL IT LIKE IT IS!!! He's a corrupt SOB and he needs to be kicked out of there! And now he dares to come across suddenly acting as if he is doing EVERYTHING he can to get the banking business flowing again! BULL! He's got them just where he wants them, indebted to the government. WHat happens next? Government run banks....... socialism......governments lending YOU, the citizen, monies, owning you, your family, and everything else in your life.......you need to do YOUR HOMEWORK!
Barney Frank in prison, is that that what you'd call
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Caught an ad-Barney Frank is going to be on O'Reilley
tonight or Thursday night? I think BF is a glutton for punishment. I hope, but doubt, BF will answer some questions instead of blowing smoke again.
Followed quickly by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. nm
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wrong...barney frank, chris dodd, and the
Dem members of the Banking and Finance Committee are wholly responsible. John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2006 and described this exact scenario, as did Allen Greenspan and John Snow (treasury secretary). The Dems killed it in committee. Voted to a man against it. And here we are. Nice try...no cigar (no pun intended). This is one that you can't lay on the Republicans. The facts do not support you on this one. No matter how much you deny it. And deny it you will. You can't help yourself.
More on Barney Frank...he is SO dirty in this economic mess....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
Fannie and Freddie....Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...
you left them off your list. The two MAJOR players. Who got the most donations from fannie/freddie? Barack Obama and Chris Dodd. Obama got more from them in his 3 years than other senators did in 20. You do the math and follow the money.

Murtha, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Al Franken!, ughh!.
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Talk about ignorance....Chris Dodd, Barney Frank....
Fannie Mae...ring any bells? The housing crash is what started this downhill spiral. Talk about snorting Kool-aid...you must have an IV. O starts talking, brain stops working.

The war has cost us plenty...as did 9-11. But the economy didn't go south until the fannie/freddie debacle which started the dominos on wall street falling because of the "bad paper." So you can rant and rave all you want to about the war...your duly elected Dems in Congress screwed us ALL over. But go ahead, blame Bush...this is all on YOU folks. YOU voted them in. I had nothing to do with it...lol. I believe it is called stewing in your own juices...even if you are so in denial you don't realize it...but oh well...no surprise. :)
What planet do you guys come from?
You actually think people by this stuff as genuine. Again, do you actually think through what you state, or do you state it for the shock effect. I assume it's the latter.
We can and do affect this planet.
While I agree that we can't exactly know how much we have to do with changing cycles on the planet, there is simply NO doubt that we have had a profound impact upon it. Even when I was a kid there were springs we could drink from and rivers we could swim in without fear of chemical burns. The fields were loaded with turtles and other creatures, every pond and creek was alive wtih frogs and tadpoles and fish. Ask your grandparents what they remember the countryside being like before the supreme arrogance of corporate policy poisoned every water source we have. There was a time that tuna fish didn't have mercury in it. On and on. Don't dismiss the concern many have over the impact we DO have on our planet as arrogance - we are certainly having a BAD BAD impact globally.

And true, not just us. However, America along with other industrialized nations and bankers is certainly complicit in the globalization movement (i.e., move into other lands, usurp the resouces from the native people, give them toxic sludge for their crops as a sort of side joke, suck out all their groundwater, make the corporations richer). We certainly don't stand against it politically or financially.

While the planet may survive the sweeping changes its most prolific environment-altering parasites inflict upon it, we probably will not. Just look at Mars if you don't think a planet can die. Regardless of why, it's certainly dead enough. So are we going to wait to be shaken off like pesky fleas - or are we going to make some effort to SUSTAIN our world and keep it in balance rather than continuously insulting it to the point where we DESERVE to be exterminated? Some of us don't have a deep-seated death wish. Some of us don't think money is more important than good living. Some of us are actually fond of this planet. Excuse US for thinking of it that way.
Flying around? What planet are you from?
He got on Airforce One following the protocol for protecting the POTUS. You know, Air Force One, the flying command center of the United States? The VP has a separate protocol and was taken to a separate location. Geeze, maybe you should avail yourself of some information before you post from now on.

He wasn't 'flying around.' Sorry to pop your conspiracy theory bubble, darling, but get your head on straight. And maybe you should educate yourself about the Katrina situation before you open your gob and vomit out the same tired 'bush caused katrina' drivel.

OBAMA IS A WEAKLING. GRAB YOUR ANKLES AND WAIT FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS.
What planet do you live on?
"When it comes to disease, we have a choice." Just taking the moist obvious, those babies born with fatal anomalies made bad choices? The stillborn infants made bad choices? You must have had a much busier uterus than I did.

Be glad you're not Catholic. Based on your acknowledgement that being judgmental is a sin, you'd be spending a lot of time on your knees in that confessional.
socialism for a shrinking planet
Im not beating around the bush.  Im amazed there is a leader who is that compassionate to care for all of his people.  I cant remember a time when America had a leader like that.  Closest I can think of is when Social Security was created.  Socialism is a fair ideology for all the people of a country.  Capitalism certainly isnt, that is unless all a person cares about is making as much money as they can and then locking themselves away in a gated community, driving on the outskirts of the ghetto areas of downtown so they dont have to see how the unfortunate ones live.  I, on the other hand, care about people.  I put caring before money.  All Americans should have a well paying job, a chance to go to college, even if you cant afford it, a roof over your head, a full belly at night, medical care.  One major thing that eats away at me is knowing some people do not go through life happy because their whole life is a neverending struggle, mostly due to no fault of their own.  I see the writing on the wall, too bad the fat cat capitalists who are so greedy and hording that money away dont.  As the population grows in the world, supplies and resources will dwindle.  Government programs will have to be created to take care of the people whose only fault is they werent born with a silver spoon in their mouth and not born when houses were inexpensive, college was easy to get into and inexpensive, jobs were plentiful and not outsourced, etc.  The masses will out-mass the greedy capitalists and then we will see something like what is happening in Venezuela now..Equality for ALL Americans in the basic needs of life and dignity.  Sure there are some fat cat capitalists who are truly good people and are helping the unfortunate and I applaud them but from what I have seen, the majority of the super rich, dont give a darn about the working class or working poor or poor.  No person should die on the street for lack of housing or only have a minimum wage job so they cant afford to rent or buy.  No person should go to bed at night hungry even though they have worked one or two jobs but had to choose between the rent, gas or food.  I see where Capitalism can go hand and hand with Socialism and that is what truly is going to happen.  America, the richest country on earth, yet we dont have medical care for our citizens, we have homeless in the streets, maternity leave is not paid for, we take the less amount of vacation days than any other industrialized country.  When Kruschev visited America for the first time, he asked why did America have homeless.  He stated that The Soviet Socialists Republic did not have homeless, they might have a few families living in the same apartment but they werent homeless.  How shameful for America.  America might have been great a few decades ago but it is leaving much to want for now and it will only get worse with the division of the classes..poor, working poor, middle class, rich and super rich, which is happening now, and the dwindling resources and opportunities.  Now, go ahead, call me a raging lunatic.  You have your right to your opinion, however, this is my take on today's America and it makes my heart heavy. 
what planet did you drop in on......no, all welfare
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Bush wants to nuke the planet first, ask questions later.

I hope the Congress isn't stupid enough to go along with this idiotic plan and once again trust Bush's lying claims about who has WMD and who doesn't. Bush isn't going to be happy until he blows up the entire planet. It's becoming clearer every day that he meant what he said when asked about his legacy, he responded with, Who cares? We'll all be dead.


Pentagon Revises Nuclear Strike Plan
Strategy Includes Preemptive Use Against Banned Weapons


By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 11, 2005; A01


The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use them to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction. The draft also includes the option of using nuclear arms to destroy known enemy stockpiles of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.


The document, written by the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs staff but not yet finally approved by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, would update rules and procedures governing use of nuclear weapons to reflect a preemption strategy first announced by the Bush White House in December 2002. The strategy was outlined in more detail at the time in classified national security directives.


At a White House briefing that year, a spokesman said the United States would respond with overwhelming force to the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, its forces or allies, and said all options would be available to the president.


The draft, dated March 15, would provide authoritative guidance for commanders to request presidential approval for using nuclear weapons, and represents the Pentagon's first attempt to revise procedures to reflect the Bush preemption doctrine. A previous version, completed in 1995 during the Clinton administration, contains no mention of using nuclear weapons preemptively or specifically against threats from weapons of mass destruction.


Titled Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations and written under the direction of Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the draft document is unclassified and available on a Pentagon Web site. It is expected to be signed within a few weeks by Air Force Lt. Gen. Norton A. Schwartz, director of the Joint Staff, according to Navy Cmdr. Dawn Cutler, a public affairs officer in Myers's office. Meanwhile, the draft is going through final coordination with the military services, the combatant commanders, Pentagon legal authorities and Rumsfeld's office, Cutler said in a written statement.


A summary of changes included in the draft identifies differences from the 1995 doctrine, and says the new document revises the discussion of nuclear weapons use across the range of military operations.


The first example for potential nuclear weapon use listed in the draft is against an enemy that is using or intending to use WMD against U.S. or allied, multinational military forces or civilian populations.


Another scenario for a possible nuclear preemptive strike is in case of an imminent attack from adversary biological weapons that only effects from nuclear weapons can safely destroy.


That and other provisions in the document appear to refer to nuclear initiatives proposed by the administration that Congress has thus far declined to fully support.


Last year, for example, Congress refused to fund research toward development of nuclear weapons that could destroy biological or chemical weapons materials without dispersing them into the atmosphere.


The draft document also envisions the use of atomic weapons for attacks on adversary installations including WMD, deep, hardened bunkers containing chemical or biological weapons.


But Congress last year halted funding of a study to determine the viability of the Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator warhead (RNEP) -- commonly called the bunker buster -- that the Pentagon has said is needed to attack hardened, deeply buried weapons sites.


The Joint Staff draft doctrine explains that despite the end of the Cold War, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction raises the danger of nuclear weapons use. It says that there are about thirty nations with WMD programs along with nonstate actors [terrorists] either independently or as sponsored by an adversarial state.


To meet that situation, the document says that responsible security planning requires preparation for threats that are possible, though perhaps unlikely today.


To deter the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, the Pentagon paper says preparations must be made to use nuclear weapons and show determination to use them if necessary to prevent or retaliate against WMD use.


The draft says that to deter a potential adversary from using such weapons, that adversary's leadership must believe the United States has both the ability and will to pre-empt or retaliate promptly with responses that are credible and effective. The draft also notes that U.S. policy in the past has repeatedly rejected calls for adoption of 'no first use' policy of nuclear weapons since this policy could undermine deterrence.


Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee who has been a leading opponent of the bunker-buster program, said yesterday the draft was apparently a follow-through on their nuclear posture review and they seem to bypass the idea that Congress had doubts about the program. She added that members certainly don't want the administration to move forward with a [nuclear] preemption policy without hearings, closed door if necessary.


A spokesman for Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said yesterday the panel has not yet received a copy of the draft.


Hans M. Kristensen, a consultant to the Natural Resources Defense Council, who discovered the document on the Pentagon Web site, said yesterday that it emphasizes the need for a robust nuclear arsenal ready to strike on short notice including new missions.


Kristensen, who has specialized for more than a decade in nuclear weapons research, said a final version of the doctrine was due in August but has not yet appeared.


This doctrine does not deliver on the Bush administration pledge of a reduced role for nuclear weapons, Kristensen said. It provides justification for contentious concepts not proven and implies the need for RNEP.


One reason for the delay may be concern about raising publicly the possibility of preemptive use of nuclear weapons, or concern that it might interfere with attempts to persuade Congress to finance the bunker buster and other specialized nuclear weapons.


In April, Rumsfeld appeared before the Senate Armed Services panel and asked for the bunker buster study to be funded. He said the money was for research and not to begin production on any particular warhead. The only thing we have is very large, very dirty, big nuclear weapons, Rumsfeld said. It seems to me studying it [the RNEP] makes all the sense in the world.


At least I will be on the other side of the planet from you when your vale of tears start.
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Really? Pubs in charge of the purse strings? What planet
...no wonder we're in this mess, and it will only get worse.
What planet R U from that you think Welfare and WIC can even come close truly supporting adequately.
A mother (job training, if you want her to pay taxes back into society, day care, so she can work with a safe place for her chld), a SAFE neighborhood to bring up the child, emotional support, do you even know what clothing and shoes cost, formula, diapers, and if we just keep handing out WElfare, how do we break that "chain" when the child grows and the cycle repeats, the President realizes it takes much, much more than a cheap handout, it takes work programs, work training programs, availabiity of safe, good child care, medical care, nutritional care, educational opportunities.....that was a cold statement without forethought to what it is really like, I have three chldren, my husband and I both work very hard, overtime and all, and it is still unbelievably hard and close!
Frank/O'Reilly

I was cheering that Bill is BACK!  I've been fit to be tied over his lingering lethargy for the last period of months, and have written to complain, too. 


There's a lot more on the web about Barney Frank and how filthy he is (in more ways than 1) this whole thing.  He should've been put in jail along with Chris Dodd and Palsen, etc.  Barney Frank's former lover worked for this outfit before they split many years ago.  I've read so much on it that I don't recall which place I read it, but obviously you won't find any of this investigative stuff on the driveby channels.  Even FNC doesn't put some stuff out there, which ticks me off.  But I find it, anyway between the conservative blogs, sites, talk radio, etc.  And these sources can be easily checked, so the libs can throw all the hissy fits they want.  If they honestly think it's okay to give literally ANY party a free pass just b/c it has your letter or preference behind it, that's just nuts!  I'm dying to clean out the RINOs in "my" party.  They don't belong there.


Fall guy
Yup it looks like those courts you hold up as infallible founts of truth - they are highly fallible and can be prejudiced.  Looks like they went after the wrong guy in Scooter.  You ever wonder why? 
Uh Barney Fife was on Mayberry RFD
Are you speaking of Barney Frank? The Congressman from Massachussetts?

Just because it has been going on by both parties does not make it okay.
Oh, how the mighty fall.nm

That's what they WANT you to believe...don't fall for it...do more research...nm
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Let CitiGroup fall
They have a terrible record of how they treat customers. According to a friend of mine who is a bankruptcy attorney, he said that over 75% of his clients file for bankruptcy because Citigroup raises interest rates astronomically, increases minimum payments, etc. They usually flat out refuse to work with people, so they file BR to make them go away.

Our mortgage is with Citi, and while we haven't had any problems with payments, they are terrible about posting payments late (I watch my account like a hawk), miscalculating interest, etc.

They brought this on themselves.
You really fall for all that garbage don't ya?
The levy failed because their precious Mayor Negan blew the 60 million dollars he was given years earlier to do just that.......FIX THE LEVY! Did ya see any of those welfare recipients yelling at the mayor to fix the levy? Pleeeeze! Most couldn't even tell you anything about their local government or any government for that matter. At what point does their mayor hold any responsibility for the lives lost? What I'm seeing here is any black person in power who is a crook, i.e., in this case, Negan, who took all those millions and no questions asked, then no one blames him because he's black, but if that had been a white mayor, all he!! would have broke lose on him and all the questions as to where all those 60 millions bucks were to fix the levy!!

Do your homework and stop playing that blame game. Those poor souls as they love to be referred to, couldn't give a rat's butt about contributing to their society in a positive fashion. What family planning strategy would you recommend? Keep your legs closed? How much money does one need to do that?

Sorry you have such a bad feeling for republicans, Dr. Martin Luther King WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!

Just so ya know!!
It will fall as manna from the sky.
You obviously do not understand Obamanomics, silly wabbit.  (I am being sarcastic again folks, and also using a simile.  I will try to use irony in another post and 'splain that to you then.)
Oh, I agree completely.....just mentioning Barney
None of them should be "fixing" anything....they created the mess and I sure as heck don't trust them to fix it. Since when has the government fixed anything?

There should be outside auditors come in, chosen by private citizens, NOT the government, not the politicians' friends or family members, but private CPAs to oversee this.

The government should not be taking any of our money. I say let the chips fall where they may and all this fear Bush and everyone else tries to place in the minds of the people is just that....talk. Give it a year or so and it will right itself automatically and purge itself of the crooks.

If you think for a minute the world economy will fall because of it, that's the fear they're hoping to put in your head to make you think this is the only choice left OR ELSE!!

Other countries have firm good banks and will continue their business as usual, as will solid banks in this country.

My gosh, just today the Bank of Scotland is now putting out ads for your banking needs. It's an investment opportunity for many.


Isnt the fall just great?
Isnt this time of the year great?  My favorite holiday is Halloween.  Cant wait!  It has been in the 40's overnight this past week, so nice.  Now if we just could have some rain.
I fall in to the you lefties are evil

I fall in this category and this is NOT TRUE.
Hassert needs to get his facts straight.


It is SO nice to see you people here who don't fall
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You people are like those girls who fall for the bad
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Well, I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears
but without God in EVERYTHING, you're up crap creek without a paddle deary....

My question to you is why not bring God into it? What gives you the right to say God shouldn't be brought into every aspect of our lives.....just because you have no relationship with God doesn't mean we all feel the way you do.

By pushing God aside, it generally gives those who want to justify their causes the lack of conscience in order to push their agendas.
I don't know if we'll fall in that category
Our mortgage is at 6.5% interest, I think MSN said it had to be over 7%?

I didn't get to see his speech, I've been trying to read up with some articles and read what's written here (with a grain of salt of course)

We are okay for now, but like you said, one bad month and we could be in trouble. We are fortunate enough to have family members that could help us for a month or two if things got really bad, but of course not indefinitely.

We are trying to sell our house now and move back to my husband's hometown, that way we'll cut our gas bill (he drives about 90 miles a day for work out there) and we are planning to buy a mobile home and put it on family land until things get better. If we can sell our home for what we are asking then we can pay our credit card bills (about $5,000 between the both of us) and actually put some money in savings, because it scares me that we don't have any money in savings. I just don't feel right saving money when I owe people!

I just get scared. We have tried to do right. We took out a straight fixed mortgage, we didn't buy much of a house at all, his truck is a 96 and mine's a 98, we don't have big screen tv's or fancy furniture, and our mortgage is as much as it is to rent a house around here. But we are young, and we don't have things like savings and health insurance, and we know if just one thing goes wrong we could be in a lot of trouble. My poor DH has been graduated with a bachelor's degree for almost a year now, has applied all over, and can't catch a break. He has a good GPA, experience in working with youth and troubled teens, and a likeable personality (I know I'm biased lol) but things just never seem to come together!

Oh well. Everything happens for a reason. All we can do is pray and keep our noses clean! (and put every extra dime towards paying off debt!)


I don’t fall into the sky is falling category
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Wonderful. Bernanke, Pelosi, and now Barney Fife want

another stimulus package.  "Stimulus should exceed 1% of the GDP."


He also says banks should be encouraged to write down mortgages. As for the $700B package, they got a terrible job loss number the same day and that it should soon start working. This fund would start buying into the banks soon. He was very upset that the first $250B was given away and $125B went into buying large banks and $125B went into buying into small banks.


Keynesianism??? What's that? Sounds like a new language to me. It's one of the words he uses.


I certainly don't think there should be another stimulus package. The first one didn't work. How can the second one be any better?


Bush Approval Continues to Fall

Could the rest of America be getting a clue?


August 17, 2005



Bush Approval Continues to Fall

President Bush’s job approval has dropped to 41% nationwide, according to the results of 50 separate but concurrent, statewide public opinion polls conducted by SurveyUSA. Bush’s aproval rating ranges from a high of 59% in Idaho to a low of 29% in Rhode Island.

  • Bush is above 50% in 7 states.
  • Bush is at 50% in 2 states.
  • Bush is below 50% in 41 states.
Compared to last month's poll, Bush's approval numbers dropped 5 or more points in 10 states. The single largest drop was in Minnesota, where it fell 10 points. Bush also fell 9 points in New Mexico.

Do not fall for this hysteria... we all need calm heads
or we will all be in trouble, republican and democrats.  This is becoming the perfect storm for socialism if we do not stop being led around by those trying to play on our emotions. 
And again, they fall silent.....stuck her foot in
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I'm standing outside with my basket. Will it fall soon, I hope? sm
...and please, if you wish to be understood by the widest viewership, confine yourself to smaller words. I believe "irony" has three of them syllerbubble thingies, which is two over the limit.
divided we fall, people; no matter who the leader will be,
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Right....like the news media didn't fall all over themselves trying to get first in line...you ne

If you go there, please include Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, McCain....the list goes
You can't be selective. If you insist on putting blame for the current situation our country is in, you must put the blame on each and every person that was a part of it.