As usual, still no response other....(sm)
Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-02-01
In Reply to: Since, as you say, I don't know you...(sm) - Just the big bad
than a Dr. Phil tantrum.
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Another classy response. I won't say liberal response,
because I don't think you and these pile-on posters are indicative of liberals as a whole. Don't know why they let you speak for them...but that is up to them. Obviously you don't think compassion is a personality trait...obviously you feel that it can be turned on and off to suit your agenda. So be it.
You don't have it quite right, as usual. sm
McNasty called Letterman to cancel his appearance on the show because he had to leave for Washington DC "immediately" to help fix the financial mess, and he was getting ready to board a jet (right then).
Then, McNasty was incidentally noted (and filmed) to be taping a show with Katie Couric at the VERY SAME TIME he would have been on Letterman. He lied to Letterman. Letterman is angry, and rightly so. As Keith Olbermann, his fill-in guest for McDemented, "You (to Letterman) got dissed by McCain."
And another thing, sam, I watched several different stations last night. All people I saw said the meeting in Washington DC was with a specified committee which did not want the candidates to come. The committee wanted to keep politics out of the meeting. They said to not come. So, McCain just took it upon himself to make this self-fulfilling political ploy. All the newscasters and pundits said the same thing--McCain was using that as a political ploy as his ratings are sinking and he's scared.
Since they were requested not to attend the meeting is the reason Obama said he was available if they need him, the statement which so angered you yesterday.
Well, on that I have something to say....as usual. LOL
First, the clothes just goes to prove that the RNC made Palin into what THEY wanted her to be. But she had to agree to it. So she's no "reformer."
As for "REV" (and I use the title loosely) Wright. Of course Obama knew he was a radical racist, no doubt in my mind about THAT. That is my BIG problem with him. I could not care less about Ayers of what? 50 years ago?. I've seen no evidence that Obama is a terrorist or for that matter that Ayers is this day though I believe he ought to be in prison for what he did. I also don't care about where Obama was born or whatever else. Usually a married couple hangs together so I'm assuming if Michelle is the radical racist, and I believe she is, then he would probably go along with her. Even with this MAJOR issue I have with him, I will still vote AGAINST McCain and take a chance. Hopefully the Congress will have enough members to stop any foolishness.
I wonder why the pubs aren't railing on the "Rev" Wright/Obama association instead of the stupid stuff. Hopefully pubs and dems have bothered to go to his church's website and read up on what they preach. I would assume that all members go along with it or they wouldn't be attending church there. You can bet on one thing....if McCain's church preached any such rhetoric, the dems would be all over it...but then there's the "p.c." issue.
As usual, delusional.
We suppose you'd be the first to whine about freedom from health care worries with a national health care system, or, say, four to six paid weeks off a year, and oh, say, a guaranteed pension for granny when she gets too old to hobble to work at Wal-Mart. You don't want workplace protection for America's workers, or a living wage, or standards of ethics for corporations as well as the people they hire. You like seeing America's wealth funneled to a few happy guys at the top while 90% of those who actually work to produce goods and services get the crumbs.
There are equitable ways to structure law and government and business that both encourage free market enterprise and keep acceptable standards of income and benefits for the average American. However, you're so busy rah-rahing a system that history tells us leads nowhere except total annihilation and collapse that you don't seem to be aware of history at all. Where do you think you're going to be when it caves? - that's what happens to capitalism when you remove all obligation and restriction - and taxes - from that top 1%.
And just to show you how utterly and ridiculously misguided your loyalities are, take note of the fact that YOU apparently have swallowed hook, line and sinker the notion that it's preferable to tax hell out of wages and leave the capital profits of the rich alone, rather than have NO taxes on earned wages, and tax hell out of superfluous capital gains as it should be, and is, in every better society on earth. You're hooked totally against your better interests and the better interests 99% of American citizens in fact. Sorry they've done that to you and hope some day you come around and see the current system for what it is, and stop fighting so hard to make yourself a slave.
Last-worditis, as usual.
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as usual....can't defend...
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I saw this interview. As usual, . . . sm
all weasel, whiny and blustering, and no answers. SOS, and losing more credibility with each passing day!! And he's the best they got?!
There you go again JTBB. As usual,
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Definitely! And insightful, as usual.
I was only addressing the question of why Obama did not just flip the magical ''O'' switch and instantly change this. Not whether he actually should. When a US politician campaigns with the slogan ''two chickens in every pot'' does anybody still believe him in this day and age? If so, I've got some swamp land I'd like to unload...
She said let's debate. Instead you want to argue as usual.
You're delusional. As usual.
Nobody told Army Mom not to speak or even that she wasn't entitled to her opinion. But she DID seem to feel she was speaking for all soldiers and seemed to be totally unaware that most soldiers hold a different view of the war than she does. That unawareness can't go unchallenged. Read any military message board and you'll see for yourself that it's an ostrich-head-in-the-sand kind of thing. Soldiers aren't stupid. Many of them know the deal. Many pretend they don't. Some just like it and don't care why they're there. There are all kinds of opinions on the message boards, not just one view. But most want to get the heck out and come home because they know they've been used and set up and put in harm's way for no good reason. Anyone who's been paying attention knows it too.
Imagine that; the usual suspects who
more to offer than more of the same swiftboating as the Kool-Aid drunks applaud them.
again...as usual...paid no attention...
The taking one more shot post appeared LONG before your cease fire....you just had not seen it yet. But it would not have mattered. I didn't read this latest diatribe...too tired and really don't give a darn. And I will give you a clue dear, one of those 4-letter words...I did not say the GOP then does not resemble the GOP now....in fact I agree whole-heartedly. The GOP has turned into Democrat lite. Which is why I don't belong to the grand old party anymore. Only register as Repub in primary years because if I didn't, I couldn't vote, and I want to have a say, no matter how small. You should really ask questions before you jump off the deep end...but you don't care, because you are always right, aren't you? Speaking from that high horse of moral authority. You must have the word "bigot" in your shortcuts, you sure invoke it enough. LOL. Really too bad that just you typing it here doesn't make it true....or maybe it is, the gospel according to Globetrotter....LOL geezzz.
As usual. Dodging the issue.
Your comfort zone has everything to do with why you "won't go there."
Well by all means, in the usual fairness...
of the as-far-from-democratic-Democratic Party...guilty until proven innocent, bash, belittle, and then turn right around in the SAME post and accuse someone else of the same. You need to get a new schtick. YOur number one does not have as much experience as the Repub #2. Yet you keep bringing experience into the conversation.
As to self destruct, not seeing it. Got a little bounce and sucked ALL the air out of the britney spears stage speech.
I am not at all underestimating the clintons....your #1 is, and the DNC is.
Yes, by all means, toe that party line. lol.
As far as your last line...THANK GOD for that!! And may i remind you, on the issue of experience...when Hillary Clinton ran for her NY state senate seat, she had NO experience in government whatsoever, unless you consider running around behind Bill cleaning up his messes experience. She had held absolutely NO legislative positions but I am sure you would agree she has been an effective senator...right?
Puhlezzzzz. Double standard is SHOWING. And all Bill had done before he became Prez was be a governor. Double standard is SHOWING.
geeeez. lol.
What I saw was old washington poltiics as usual....
and a new fresh face and real change. Guess which was which. Biden is the poster boy for what is WRONG with this country.
Oh, but please try to make it look like more than one of you is posting, as usual. Please? nm
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As usual, quite the opposite is true.
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That's the usual plan of attack. Buckle up! nm
Nope. Because he DOES have experience in Washington as usual....
THAT was the point that I am sorry you missed, I should have been more clear. I apologize. Sarah Palin is the only one in this race who is not Washington politics as usual, and McCain is the only one saying Washington needs to be cleaned up and he means both parties. THAT is what we need. REAL change. Not more of the same old Washington politics.
And he does have experience in socialism and is invested in it. That kind of experience, with all due respect, is not what the country needs...in my opinion.
Did they move your usual voting place? sm
Several polling places in a town of about 75,000 about 60 miles from here were moved just 2 days before the election. It was on the news Sunday night. I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this was and how many people didn't get that news?
I'm glad you finally got to vote!
Obama - No change, just politics as usual
So much for a more transparent administration. It seems to be just more of politics as usual. So, Obama is having personnel problems already. He has not even been in office 3 weeks and now TWO of his cabinet members have tax problems? First it was Geithner who "forgot" he had to pay taxes plus had an illegal working for him. And now Tom Daschle??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28958689
Hmmm...let me see...when I had "tax problems" it cost me that problem plus interest and fines. So, I guess if you are an Obama appointee, it doesn't matter whether you pay taxes or not. Gee......with all the problems in our economy, maybe I should get a job in Washington as an Obama appointee. In like Flynn in my opinion.
I am so glad I didn't drink the kool-aid.
Right! Beck is a threat to the left so as usual,
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Who cares....that's just business as usual in Detroit. sm
That is not as flippant as it sounds. Detroit has been sucking off the gov't teat for as long as I have lived in Michigan. They got rid of the mayor because of stuff like this. The Synagro scandal even reached over to my side of the state, in Grand Rapids. So there was a big who-ha and then all the righteous indignation died down and life went on.
IMHO Detroit needs to be cut off Michigan, floated up the St. Lawrence Seaway and out into the ocean. Maybe somebody out there will take pity on them and give them a home.
oops was typing faster than usual - I meant
you had already decided before the debate began that you believed Biden had won.
backwards as usual, it's because BUSH DVETOED REGULATION sm
My goodness, do you not have any of the facts? I'm finished with you.
As usual, bringing up the past...how 'bout something original...
your inexperienced leader is already in over his head. It's okay sweetie, you'll get used to hearing your leader bashed and getting no respect. We had to endure that for 8 years now you will for the next 4.
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My response
There is no sound byte answer about Rev. Wright. I'll give you a hint. It has to do with the fact that men of his generation experienced life in America differently than the whites did. Historically, many black churches have been and are political forums, stemming from the days of slavery, when the churches provided a refuge where freedom of speech was possible. I don't know what Obama did or did not hear, and neither do you. What I do know is that he has written extensively about the confusion he had over the "black" part of his identity and part of his search for meaning, purpose and belonging in his younger days was played out in South Chicago. If you have read anything about the church at all, you will know that they have been engaged in many extensive and successful outeach programs in their community and I suspect his "association" with Trinity was focused and centered around that. Too bad a person cannot be judged but his deeds, rather than wild speculation, innuendo and smear campaigns about the company he keeps.
A response from.....sm
To the first 4 paragraphs decrying the decay of black leadership while attempting to lay the blame at the feet of the democratic party, encouraging blacks to bail and proclaiming the dawn of a new day for black conservatism, all that needs to be said is yeah, right. The proof is in the pudding. Black voters are backing Obama 94-1, according to this random poll citation: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1192 …6% stampede, and we have not even made it through the convention. Great big whoop.
The abortion graphics let us know that the minister is pro-life. OK. Fine. Next, we have this twisted accusation that Obama supports partial birth abortion. That is not his position on abortion, and it is laid out in no uncertain terms on his website and countless times in his speeches and townhall meetings. What he said is that he supports the notion that things should stay as they have been and that those issues should be determined on a state-by-state basis at the local level. Same thing with regard to same-sex marriage and the federal government not being in the business of defining the meaning of marriage, which he clearly believes is a union between a man and a woman (not exactly the most popular position in the gay community).
Yet despite this, the pastor insists he is champion of the gay agenda and the abortion "industry." Never mind that the democratic party platform includes many pro-active initiatives that conservatives will continue to obstruct regarding abortion prevention through sex education, birth control, encouraging and enabling single parents to keep their children with parenting education, job skills training and making adoption laws more user friendly. Most democrats perceive the conservative views on abortion as caring about unborn right from conception to the moment of birth. Beyond that, the babies kind of fall off the radar screen.
For this radical stance (i.e., preserving status quo), the pastor evokes the Barack HUSSEIN Obama slur and is all indignant that Obama puts himself out there as a Christian. Champion of the dead horse drumbeat. This guy is not looking real credible at this point. Performer, he calls him, doubting Obama's sincerity. The "God's on our side" mantra rings hollow as well, considering the conservative pathologic disdain for poverty and conflicts over notions such as the measure of a nation's moral character is only as strong as it's care for the least among us.
He then proceeds to twist the words of THE greatest black leader of modern times…MLK. The infanticide he referred to was the practice of killing female infants/gender selection in biblical patriarchal societies.…a practice emphatically condemned by the Islamic Prophet Mohammed in the Quran back in the day. Twist, turn, spin.
Lets see. Obama is evil incarnate because homophobic interpretations of the Bible do not impress him as much as the Sermon on the Mount? That would be the moral teachings of Jesus, to include the Lord's Prayer, the injunctions to "resist not evil" and "turn the other cheek", as well as Jesus' version of the Golden Rule. Other lines often quoted are the references to "salt of the Earth," "light of the world," and "JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED." These are the core beliefs of the Christian doctrine. Drag out the tar and feathers and hang him high for that sacrilege.
Then another call to arms for those 6% black conservatives, a 2nd reference to Barack HUSSEIN Obama. As for the upcoming black conservative youth, it is the youth vote from the remaining 94% blacks and whites alike that just might boost Obama over the top, last I heard.
Then of course, there are a few paragraphs of closing prayers. If this is what it means to be "right," this guy ends up making the Obama nation look better and better.
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So you are saying all other media outlets except Fox are liberal and therefore cannot be trusted to provide accurate information. Therefore, you can only get true information from their network, because they tell you that is so. I see where you are coming from.
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All the examples you use about being make to hate, if the individuals mentioned being indoctrinated resisted by using their minds to seek broader or alternative information could simply resist the information being forced on them and resist hating. Poor sentence structure, I admit.
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McCain did the same thing when he was defeated in N. Caroline because Rove used dirty tactics like push polls calling people and asking if they would vote for McCain if they knew he had a biracial baby. McCain had to suck it up and stand next to Bush and announce that he would support him. I thought he was ethical enough to resist using such tactics when he the chance to campaign. but I was wrong.
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Of course I believe they can. Luckily you tacked on white supremacists right there at the end or I would have been appalled at the assumption that non-caucasian, non-christian people are incapable of thinking for themselves.
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Both Bush and McCain supported privatizing social security IF a person wanted to...neither have advocated making it mandatory. Perhaps if that had been done in the first place, it would not have been a fund that a Democratic congress could have raided to fund other programs. I personally would like to have control of my own funds (except congress has already spent them) and put in a CD..not the stock market. So that govt grubby paws could not get at it anymore. But that is just me.
I think the operative word is McCain said he did not disagree. He did not say he himself would re-start the draft. In the world the way it is, if enlistment really dropped off, it might be necessary just so we would have the size Armed Forces we would need, should the need arise. That just makes good sense. A peace time draft might be a good thing...two years in the service might change the direction some kids might choose to go. Would also provide some skills training and the ability to go to college after their service...instead of gangs...instead of being on the street...learn a trade, get a job...I don't necessarily think it would be a bad thing. The Armed Forces have been good careers for a lot of men and women...the Armed Forces are not just for war. But again...that is just me.
See my response above. And you are right - sm
I think both sides need to leave the experience thing alone.
The rep response is
lie, lie, lie and CYA. This whole SP story is going to blow up in their faces. At least, that's what I'm expecting, but sure will be amusing to watch over the next couple of weeks. Joe Scarborough, a former republican representative, said he would have never chosen her with just 1 1/2 years of governership and a mayor of a small town as experience. The media is not expected to ask questions or interview Ms. SP at least for two weeks yet. What are they hiding? Why can't the media ask her questions? This is quite as someone said before "a sideshow." Very entertaining.
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Let the oil companies bail them out since they directly benefited from some of the bad management decisions.
This would never happen. I doubt the oil companies care if the US auto industry goes down. If it does go down, then we will have imports, for which we will also have to buy gas (which would actually be a better alternative for the oil companies as opposed to us building vehicles that would not be dependent on oil).
Don't bail out the companies. Give the money to the workers for re-education, etc., while the auto companies restructure.
Re-education takes time. If these workers are already or soon to be out of work, they need jobs yesterday. They have families to feed, and that can't wait for a new career.
I think the best approach is to go ahead and bail them out (as much as that stinks), but set criteria they have to meet that would show re-tooling and progression to non-gas vehicles. I like the Pickens plan myself.
You know, that was my first response too.
but would like to see him cut loose a little and put it against a contrasting charcoal gray shirt. I think he's a knockout....nothing sexier than a confident, intelligent man with a heart of gold.
and your response to GP was so much
Your original post to wasn't an attack on the pubs? Hypocrit.
Response
Yes, we do only have one president at a time.
However, both the incoming and outgoing Presidents have a responsibility -- they are handling the nation's business.
As Obama comes into power, it is very transparent of him to keep the nation apprised of what he is doing, thinking, planning.
Good for him! I hope we hear from him every single day!
It doesn't matter whether it is Obama or it would have been McCain -- we need to hear what the incoming President is planning and doing.
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Move to Russia----that's the problem. If you guys are confronted with any sort of ideas that are not part of your belief your first instict seems to be to just remove it. That's not tolerance -- that's segregation.
As far as kids go, I would challenge you to show me 1 child 4th grade and up (probably lower than that) that does not know what *gay* means, and homosexuality is not being taught in schools now. As far as the TV, mine came with a remote with little buttons for changing the channel and a handy dandy on/off switch. Toy dispensers in gas station bathrooms: Yes, there are some of those out there. However, they are no where near as common as you would make them out to be.
Marriage -- what is it to you if they call it marriage? You do realize there are christian gays and lesbians? The problem is that on this issue christians seem to think that everyone should live by their rules when everyone else has a different set of rules. What about Muslims who are married? Is thier marriage worth anything in your eyes? They didn't get married with God as a witness as you would discribe Him. I'm married and yet I'm and athiest. Is my marriage worthless?
Christianity is an all or nothing proposition. When it comes to laying down legislation for a nation as diverse as ours, that all or nothing mentality does nothing but divide the nation.
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Whether you aggree with Al Jazeera or not, they are a valid news organization. They show the viewpoint of others in the region. In order to understand a situation I feel it is important to understand both sides of it, and then make an informed opinion. Your unwillingness to even consider what they say as a different viewpoint is pretty typical of Americans, which in my opinion is to only concern themselves with the viewpoint that best suits thier agenda.
Why is it that your only response....(sm)
to any discussion is just one-line BS? Do you have any evidence to show that the people being held at Gitmo are what you say they are? Can you show where this defense attorney is incorrect? Do you perhaps have inside info on exactly what will happen to the prisoners? Or better yet, do you even have any kind of rationale for your opinion other than your obvious paranoia concerning bringing the prisoners here? There is the concept of us having to pay for their upkeep, but hey, guess what? We're already paying for that. In addition to that, how much do you think it costs just to keep Gitmo open, not only financially but in political capital as well?
Helpful hint: If when responding to a post if you click inside the big white box underneath the subject line, it will allow you to type in a more detailed note, thereby, possibly (and I use that term loosely), giving more credibility to your posts.
Well, at least YOU got a response.
I wrote to them, as well, and didn't receive a reply at all (not that I was expecting one of any substance).
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who wrote to them.
Response...
1. You'll find it useful to look at the upcoming budgets and then re-discover the notion of percentages.
2. If unions infested the transcription industry, you might very well not have a job. Don't believe me? Tour Detroit.
3. Trash talk that typifies political discourse today, says nothing, doesn't advance your cause, and doesn't merit response.
4. More of #3.
Response...
You have a very narrow view of taxes, my friend, and obviously have no idea what's coming down the tracks.
We are already seeing increases in taxes (on everyone) at the state and local level, for one thing, and many more are in the works. Look for higher sales tax rates, higher car license fees...oh, who knows where your piddly little "increase" will wind up going?
You can't possibly - even if you're no economist - believe that the government can print $trillions and obligate the nation to $trillions more in debt and none of the cost is going to come home to roost on your doorstep. You're just going to float along while someone else ("the rich") pay for all of this, eh? You're a politician's dream come true.
Politicians count on people who will look no further down the road than this week's pay stub and scream for joy at the $23.48 increase. "Lord, let them never realize that we're going to take it all back away from them at some other level of government - and so much more besides", pray the politicians.
My response is --
President Obama's sequel came out during his presidency. His first book was actually released in 2005 before he even entered politics. The income was listed on his taxes that were released as a presidential candidate.
His charitable contributions were also listed, but the information I just quickly googled said his 2006 contributions amounted to a little over 6% of his income.
He was of interest to folks before he became involved in politics.
what is this in response to?
The original post was not about George Tiller or William Long?
in response --
I have been duly chastised and I accept that. However, i saw no need for him to be "protecting" himself. Noone was bothering him. They stool calmly by and watched him do what he did. Secondly, there was no need to cut the flag down, he could have just removed it. Then, as he removed it, he could have folded it in some way other than just wadding it into a ball.
There was never any confrontation wher he had to be scared or feel threatened - so that is not an adequate defense. I understand that he was upset, I agree that he very well should have been, and I myself am upset about the way things are going in this country and the things that are being allowed to happen.
Yes, I very well do get it!!!
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