Appears I've been too subtle once again..
Posted By: A.Nonymous on 2009-03-27
In Reply to: Careful, yes.... - A.Nonymous
Disclaimer: I am neither a Demican nor a Republicrat. I have always voted for the guy/gal based on their stated policies, compared to actual prior performance which agrees with my mostly conservative views. (I have sort of a peripheral friend who, about four months before the election, called herself an Obamacan. Wonder how she's feeling right now.)
Having said that, I will add that I do know they all use the TelePrompTer and give speeches mostly written by professional speech writers. I get it. I do not believe that any of them just make spontaneous utterances inspired by God. Even Lincoln wrote it down on the back of an envelope on the way to Gettysburg. But I bet he did not just READ it straight off the envelope, but extemporized a bit without getting himself in trouble.
I always liked Bush's more folksy way of speaking. When he would veer from his canned text you could usually tell, and it appeared genuine to me. Example: He addressed criticism of what some were calling his 'cowboy swagger' saying 'In Texas, we call that.......walking.' Sorry, it just broke me up. I don't even mind a few malapropisms, as it only adds to the impression that this is a genuine guy.
I compare that to Obama, Mr. Smooth. I get no sense of warmth from the man and when he gets away from his canned text, I can just see his handlers cringing. Example: Why didn't he get a dog for the Whitehouse as he had been talking about during the campaign? 'Guess that was just another campaign promise. Heh, heh, heh.'
I believe that it is in those unguarded moments, off script, you get a glimps of what's inside of a person. What do they consider funny? What do they poke fun at? Themselves? Or Special Olympics?
So my puppet remark was directed toward Obama, sorry if I was too indirect.
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It appears you are right. sm
And it also appears that everything I said about how we left Vietnam was right. Even the islamofascists think so. How nice.
Yep, it certainly appears that way, and...
I think the throwing the rev and the church under the bus was just a show anyway. He does believe what was preached there...that's why the man married he and his wife and baptized both of his children. But...Obama is blowing on that pipe and quite a few of the masses seem heck-bent on following him right into the river. Nothing I can do about that...but I won't be voting for him. I won't be a party to putting him in the white house. But, if he gets elected, I have my bumper sticker ready. ;)
From where we sit, it appears you have
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Now THIS appears REALLY paranoid......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
It appears you already have.....all over this board.........nm
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It appears that Bin Laden
has threatened Americans again in a new audio tape, saying President Barack Obama inflamed hatred toward the U.S. by ordering Pakistan to crack down on militants in Swat Valley and block Islamic law in the area.
You just can't win with terrorists. No matter how nice we try to be to Muslims.....the extremists are still going to hate us and want to kill us.
LOL! It appears that you have something in your *right* eye blocking your vision.
You crash this board and admonish my behavior, yet you can't see the same behavior on the other board. You're over there kissing up to them.
Yeah. You call them as you see them.
With your right eye closed.
You're just another lying phony crashing this board. 
Truly doesn't matter where she appears or what she does...sm
the left will always find a reason to find fault of some sort.
It's actually rather admirable for her to take this particular bull by the horns, and appear on SNL's "weekly Palin smear show."
Unfortunately, I hear they're also going to follow the Obama campaign and the media's lead and smear Joe the Plumber for asking a question, that gave the Obama answer, that has Obama's campaign scrambling to try to save themselves from ruin.
Obama's answer to Joe is the real big problem here....and was an election breaker and maker, and Obama knows it, and so do the American people.
Mark my words....Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber, have saved McCain in this election.
And Obama knows it and is running scared again.....
biden appears to be a family man
when i heard about the tragic accident that his family was involved in and then when i saw the media in the hospital room.... just makes me wonder how family oriented he is to invite the media into that....
The table appears way, way down on the page.
Please pay special attention to the years 1932 to 1981. Thanks.
It appears she learned a new big word there. Are we impressed?
This appears to be the norm on the whole Gulf Coast
I was in Gulfport, MS before, during and after Katrina. About a year after, all the rent on the coast went sky high (was paying $425 for an efficiency, raised it to $800). I was working 7 days a week at two hospitals (many MTs had already left the coast), and I had to leave too, leaving them even more short handed. There have been many articles regarding the majority of the rebuild on the coast is new casinos and high-end housing. I have no idea how they expect anyone in the service industries to live there without affordable housing. You cannot have tourist industry without people that support it - casino workers, fast food folk, maids, low-end hospital jobs.
What drove me nuts is the way they portrayed the people in the media - as if we were all illiterate crackheads. I worked with many fine people at those hospitals, and it would take pages to descibe their suffering. It disgusts me how there will always be money to accomodate the disposable income players, while the backbone of the community, hard working, serious, responsible people, were left with a trashed out house with no roof, a mortgage to pay and an insurance company that said they didn't have to give them a dime to rebuild.
Another drive-by potshot over the bow...also infantile...but definitely, it appears...
your style. Sigh.
Surely you jest....it appears you are speaking for yourself
college and everything......yepper, by golly
Read the post your thread appears under.
Do I have to do all the work here? We are talking about more that one thing at the same time. Can you handle that?
Everyone Obama appoints appears to be some form
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appears as though the mental illness issue....
is true - look how f*cked up his brothers are/were..............
It appears that Roberts involvement in the case was not an endorsement per se. SM
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Roberts Helped Group on Gay Rights
- By JON SARCHE, Associated Press Writer
Friday, August 5, 2005
(08-05) 19:27 PDT DENVER (AP) --
A decade ago, John Roberts played a valuable role helping attorneys overturn a Colorado referendum that would have allowed discrimination against gays — free assistance the Supreme Court nominee didn't mention in a questionnaire he filled out for the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The revelation didn't appear to dent his popularity among conservative groups nor quell some of the opposition of liberal groups fearful he could help overturn landmark decisions such as Roe v. Wade, which guarantees a right to an abortion.
An attorney who worked with Roberts cautioned against making guesses about his personal views based on his involvement in the Colorado case, which gay rights advocates consider one of their most important legal victories.
"It may be that John and others didn't see this case as a gay-rights case," said Walter Smith, who was in charge of pro bono work at Roberts' former Washington law firm, Hogan & Hartson.
Smith said Roberts may instead have viewed the case as a broader question of whether the constitutional guarantee of equal protection prohibited singling out a particular group of people that wouldn't be protected by an anti-discrimination law.
"I don't think this gives you any clear answers, but I think it's a factor people can and should look at to figure out what this guy is made of and what kind of Supreme Court justice he would make," Smith said.
On Friday, Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans released two memos by Roberts when he was as an assistant counsel in the Reagan White House. In one, Roberts argued that President Reagan should not interfere in a Kentucky case involving the display of tributes to God in schools.
In the other, Roberts writes that Reagan shouldn't grant presidential pardons to bombers of abortion clinics. "The president unequivocally condemns such acts of violence," he wrote in a draft reply to a lawmaker seeking Reagan's position. "No matter how lofty or sincerely held the goal, those who resort to violence to achieve it are criminals."
Meanwhile, the Justice Department denied a request by Judiciary Committee Democrats for Roberts' writings on 16 cases he handled when he was principal deputy solicitor general during President George H.W. Bush's administration. The department also declined to provide the materials, other than those already publicly available, to The Associated Press and other organizations that sought them under the Freedom of Information Act.
"We cannot provide to the committee documents disclosing the confidential legal advice and internal deliberations of the attorneys advising the solicitor general," assistant Attorney General William E. Moschella wrote Friday to the eight committee Democrats.
Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the panel's senior Democrat, said Roberts made decisions whether to pursue legal appeals in more than 700 cases. "The decision to keep these documents under cover is disappointing," Leahy said.
The gay rights case involved Amendment 2, a constitutional amendment approved by Colorado voters in 1992 that would have barred laws, ordinances or regulations protecting gays from discrimination by landlords, employers or public agencies such as school districts.
Gay rights groups sued, and the measure was declared unconstitutional in a 6-3 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1996.
Roberts' role in the case, disclosed this week by the Los Angeles Times, included helping develop a strategy and firing tough questions during a mock court session at Jean Dubofsky, a former Colorado Supreme Court justice who argued the case on behalf of the gay rights plaintiffs.
Dubofsky, who did not return calls Friday, said Roberts helped develop the strategy that the law violated the equal protection clause in the Constitution — and prepared her for tough questions from conservative members of the court. She recalled how Justice Antonin Scalia asked for specific legal citations.
"I had it right there at my fingertips," she told the Times. "Roberts was just terrifically helpful in meeting with me and spending some time on the issue. He seemed to be very fair-minded and very astute."
Dubofsky had never argued before the Supreme Court. Smith said she called his firm and asked specifically for help from Roberts, who argued 39 cases before the court before he was confirmed as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., in 2003.
Smith said any lawyer at Hogan & Hartson would have had the right to decline to work on any case for moral, religious or other reasons.
"If John had felt that way about this case, given that he is a brilliant lawyer, he would have just said, `This isn't my cup of tea' and I would have said, `Fine, we'll look for something else that would suit you,'" Smith said.
The Lambda Legal Defense Fund, which helped move the case through the state and federal courts, said Roberts' involvement raised more questions about him than it answered because of his "much more extensive advocacy of positions that we oppose," executive director Kevin Cathcart said.
"This is one more piece that will be added to the puzzle in the vetting of John Roberts' nomination," Cathcart said.
The Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said his support for Roberts' nomination has not diminished. "He wasn't the lead lawyer. They only asked him to play a part where he would be Scalia in a mock trial," Sheldon said.
Focus on the Family Action, the political arm of the Colorado Springs-based conservative Christian ministry Focus on the Family, said Roberts' involvement was "certainly not welcome news to those of us who advocate for traditional values," but did not prompt new concerns about his nomination, which the group supports.
"That's what lawyers do — represent their firm's clients, whether they agree with what those clients stand for or not," the group said in a statement.
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No, but thanks for asking. It appears liberal kiddie garden has let out and they are at play
on the conservative board.
It appears to me that the governors are just walking in lockstep to politics......
It's all about politics - screw the people! Pretty sad when a political party wants to see our country fail......
it appears you lost your opinion or you wouldn't feel the need to remark on mine....nm
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Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.
Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger. 
Something I've got to say
I left this board a while back for a period of time due to the harassing emails I was getting from the former owner of this site. It finally stopped when I told her that in the 10 years I had had email service I had never received such harassing or threatening emails and come to think of it, prior to her emails to me I had never received ANY harassing or threatening emails. I told her if they didn't stop that I would find the proper resources to report her conduct. She was angry because myself and two other posters were emailing to each other upset about the rampant deletion of liberal posts. Apparently when we used the initial MTstars email form she was reading them. In the course of her emailing me she also told one very obvious and easily discovered lie. The whole thing was creepy.
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Yes, I certainly would. I've seen a lot of sm
so-called religious people do some very non-religious things. Remember, an atheist does not believe in Satan or worship the devil either, it just means that they do not believe in God, any God. Also, they may perhaps just not believe in organized religion.
You really believe that? Hey, I've got a really - sm
cool-looking, orange-colored bridge in San Francisco I'll sell ya really CHEAP. It's a little old and rusty, but polish it up a little, and you could probably resell it on ebay and make yourself a tidy profit. And profit's what you guys are all about, right?
Well, I've had it. sm
The hate that flies on this board is absolutely unbearable. I came to this board to compare issues of both parties and what do I see? A few people trying to give facts and get bombarded with HATE. I feel sorry for them and so CHILDISH.
What is worse is that some posters are falling into the trap by answering with just as hateful messages.
I am going happily on my way to find another place to compare issues and it WON'T BE WITH TRASH MEDIA as some are trying to force down my throat.
My mind has probably been made up for this election and I certainly won't be voting for Obama since I've seen some posters spew their hate against the republicans, although I do like Biden.
It's a shame.
That's what I've been trying to do --
gain information. It's very difficult to get accurate information without all the slams. Any suggestions on good websites to review these topics of interest and what each candidate's stand is on each? I've started watching CNN. I have to admit, I was really a Hillary supporter and now that Obama's on the ticket instead, I just don't know which evil is worse. I thank you for your input and I will continue to delve into this mess until I can come up with my own conclusion. I'm just trying to gain information from all angles, not relying on just 1 opinion. I asked the question below of everyone, but no one responded.
Does no one know the answer? Is it ridiculous of me to think that the resolution to this crisis should not dig into my pockets? I personally feel that the people who got those bonuses should be made to give them back, that they should be paying fines to offset this mess since they were the ones cooking the books for the bonuses.
Yes, and that is exactly what I've been saying
one is no better than the other.
that's the best you've got?
Old story, and not an impressive one. I don't like hearing any story like that, ever. It's no better than Clinton, but wasn't it the Dems who said that personal "affairs" were just about sex and meant nothing? We don't know if Biden cheated or not, do we? I don't know, but I hope not.
The Obama-Ayers-Wright-Pfleger (and on and on) affairs are far more detrimental to this country, so wake up and smell the coffee.
Can't say as I've ever used that one.
I guess she could have used terminology from Scooby Doo episodes. Jinkies, Mr. Biden. LOL.
That's because that's all you know....they've been
call it racism. Why do you think Obama will get the majority black votes? Because they think for themselves? Please... I have a black neighbor who says too many blacks have been led around by the nose by people like Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpon, and now says this Judas Barry Obama is showing up. She is not so easily fooled but she feels like her race has been sold down the river by this man. Instead of encouraging them, he wants to give them more handouts and keep them down, so they can continue to feel "entitled" becaues of their color.
Too bad so many others are.
LOL Now you've really done it!!!
Added everything I love. I grew up on this chow and swore when I was "growed up" I would never eat it again. Guess what? I'll take that stuff over steak any day of the week. Now I gotta make a Sweet 'tater pie!!!! Didn't get anything to eat, we were planning for cooking for the re-enactment group that will be doing their re-enactment here the first weekend in Dec.
Is that all you've got?
I read the board, I read the blogs, I watch TV, I listen to my relatives. So yes, I think that gives me a good idea.
Yes, he has. Where've you been?
Do you think the Dems would've let him run if he could be disqualified? Do you think McCain wouldn't have made it front and center if his high-paid dirt-diggers could've found ANYTHING? Just because you wish it to be true doesn't make it true.
Like i've said before
Anyone who didn't have their heads in the clouds, drinking the kool-aid, out of fear, or just flat out ignorant could have seen him for what he really was loooong before now. Whites have done what is right, but make no mistake, I owe no one anything and never did.
There are many racists who will take this opportunity to exploit everything.......sadly enough Obama has gotten right in line with them. When you start using MY taxes to pay for "projects" and you say what color the people have to be that work on those projects, there is a word for that.
Just keep tuned.....his true colors are there
I probably would. I've been there and like it.
Trade houses? LOL
sm....You've go to know that....
You've got to know that I have truly BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, or I would be keeping my mouth/fingers shut/quiet - lol! On my 18th birthday, I moved out of home. I have a military dad (marine) and no longer wanted to live a military-style household.....so I left. I did not have a place to go, so stayed with my cousins for a bit. I ended up moving into a duplex with a friend of my cousin's husband - I did not even know the guy. We split rent on this duplex and worked opposite shifts...so it was like each of us having our own place. I was really "full of myself" because I was working FT with my own place to stay....so I went a little crazy on the "partying," and ended up pregnant myself, just a few months after leaving home. I WAS ON BIRTH CONROL PILLS, but antibiotics I was on at the time had contradicted the efficacy of my BCPs. Shortly after suspecting (but without confirmation) I was pregnant, my roomate and I had a disagreement and he threw me out! I was then homeless and most likely pregnant. I went to the Health Department and got a free pregnancy test, and my hypothesis was confirmed. So....I was HOMELESS and PREGNANT and had been on BIRTH CONTROL pills. I could have gotten a FREE ABORTION on your TAX PAYER DOLLARS but, instead, I got a second job, applied for food stamps, found a cheap apartment in a bad part of town, and had my baby. I then worked my way up to bigger and better things, but I did not take the EASY WAY OUT and ABORT/KILL my baby. People are soooo lazy!!! The easy way - or no way at all.....is how most people look at life these days. Our forefathers worked the earth to provide food....but everyone today wants that quick burger or veggie fix - no time to waste. WHEN I WAS ON BCP'S, I STILL COULD HAVE USED A SECONDARY FORM OF PROTECTION!!! There is not a single person in this forum that was not given a WARNING about the RISK OF PREGNANCY WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL PILLS when you got your prescription. Sorry.....but everyone's "sob stories" over trying to JUSTIFY ABORTION are truly PATHETIC. I am sorry for your daughter, but she apparently overcame, and now you have a BEAUTIFUL and WONDERFUL grandchild that may one day grow up to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! Why would anyone want to ABORT something like that? (P.S. I had a very hard time with my second pregnancy also, and raised two children WITHOUT CHILD SUPPORT, but I will not go into that story at this time. I have been "advised" by others to have abortions, but chose to preserve my morality and continue to regard life as PRECIOUS. Life is not a BED OF ROSES.)
I'm m......... I've always been m...... sm
and I'll always be m. I don't mind getting slammed for my beliefs...I'm kind of used to it. LOL
Thank you!!! - that's what I've been trying to say
Some people have no clue though. They think if Obama is doing it, it's okay. They don't care about right or wrong. I'm truly disgusted that our tax money is going to fund their parties for their own pleasure. Especially since everyone who attends their parties are rich enough they could pay for it themselves, but instead they use our money.
I've been researching trying to find anything that says they are paying for it themselves, but not finding anything. I found something about a white house budget, but again that budget is funded by taxpayers money.
Since it's my taxpaying money you bet I've got a problem with how they are spending it. Especially in these hard times and what America is going through.
What was it Marie Antoinette said "If they have no bread let them eat cake". I'm starting to see a similarity here.
You've got some of it right
I am prior military and this is the way it works.
Pentagon asks the President for the okay to proceed. The president simply states yay or nay. When you say "outlining a mission" if you are referring to the actual planning of it, no the President does not have anything to do with the plans, but he is informed by the leaders of how the scenario will work out and then he agrees or not. The military leaders are the ones who create the plan and enforce it (complete the action).
The problem with what happened during the Bush years was that Bush trusted the wrong people. When he was told by a group of people that this was there or that was there, he believed them and did not question. One thing that was learned from that was to question everything.
But a lot of people are under the mistaken identity that the president sits and plans the mission out with the military leaders, and he does not. He listens to them and then just okays it.
Seriously? That is the best you've got?
How very, very pathetic.
I've always said................ sm
Yank that Golden Fleece Retirement Plan and see how fast they get things fixed. Chances are slim to none that that will ever happen, but a person can dream.
I've said this before and I will say it again.
It seems to me that liberals are the ones crying and whining abour their rights. Just like people telling government to stay out of their uteruses. You didn't seem to have a problem with hospitals and doctors' rights when they were taken away when they were forbidden to refuse performing abortions. You didn't have a problem with those rights being taken away. You complain about Christians taking rights away from others. We are the ones who aren't allowed to pray in public without fear of being made fun or just outright attacked these days. But for you to say that we are the ones who have no problems taking away rights from others when you liberals have no problems taking away rights of other people as long as you get your way.......talk about your double standards.
These people were not forcing others to listen to their Bible study. There is no reason why they can't have Bible study in a private home.
You kept complaining about conservatives wanting revenge against terrorists and that is why we are for enhanced interrogation but here yourself you say that you normally would have sympathy but because of their group doing things you don't agree with, you have no sympathy. Is this revenge on your part? This group doesn't believe like you and doesn't agree with a liberal agenda and so therefore it is okay for them to be attacked for having a Bible study in a private home? Once again....double standards.
I don't think we've gone as far
He may not be prosecuted, but if the person who placed that ad can be identified, he's in for a very thorough federal proctological exam.
I've seen...
similar figures here and there and considering the era probably correct as anyone can guesstimate. I wasn't completely understanding the thread initially (short on time), now I do. Thanks.
Now you've done it.....LOL..(sm)
They'll be getting the pitchforks and guns![](http://static.iminent.com/toolbar/contents/images/emoticons/Messages/1.gun.gif") right about now.
As I've said before - you really don't want to
But, more to the point, Republicans haven't been interested in what goes on in anyone else's bedroom for a very long time, so this author needs to wake up and smell the coffee. This isn't just "old hat" stuff - it's completely moldy - and besides, isn't this author getting into the Governor's bedroom habits? Doh!
Both Democrats and Republicans need to hold our leaders up to standards that at least meet the test of decency.
You've never debated
you've just slammed Bush and anyone who likes Bush. Point to one thread where you've debated someone like an adult without resorting to the worlds idiots puke and other assorted adjectives up to and including curses words to slam Bush and people who like him?
GT I've noticed something
the more you get your hackles up your limited vocabulary becomes that much more limited.
I've moderated nothing
I've only broken it down to the simplest form to try and make you understand. We're having a debate which makes any political board interesting, and I'm not the least bit angry at you all, but you all seem very angry with me. It's really sad that adults can't come to opposing viewpoint boards and have civil conversations. It really is quite boring. It really shows what a sad state are culture is in. Our culture endorses immaturity and touchy feelings which is quite sad. I'll wander back to the other boards I frequent where people manage to debate (most of the time) without getting all snitty at the people with opposing viewpoints.
God bless....
No! You've got it all wrong!!
Bush has the utmost respect for the media. Why, if it wasn't for the media, Bush wouldn't even have known that he's been selected for jury duty. (Of course, he's got expertise in getting out of things requiring *duty* to his country, so he won't be Juror #200-whatever this time around. The good news is the no court will have to suffer through Bush's *judgments,* which leads me back to Iraq.
Bush would never do anything to impede freedom of speech. He wants all Iraqis to have freedom of speech. He loves freedom of speech (except maybe for that time he wanted to blow up Al Jazeera, before Blair talked him out of it).
And Bush would NEVER condone paying for what's nothing more than propaganda promoting something he thinks is good (except maybe for that time he paid radio talk show host Armstrong Williams $241,000 to promote the *No Child Left Behind* program on his radio show).
Hmmmmmmmmm... MY BAD. You don't have it wrong at all. Matter of fact, you're right on the money! 
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