Apparently you didn't read closely enough..........sm
Posted By: m on 2009-03-03
In Reply to: Yeah, but wouldn't it be great if they paid your mortgage? - Shirley U. Jest
My point was that by replacing the food stamp program with the commodity program, which does not allow for "luxury" foods like rib-eye, etc., perhaps more people would be willing to get off the welfare wagon and go back to work.
Where in the heck did you come up with you idea?
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You didn't look very closely.
You seem to be off your game now that you are no longer a moderator.
I can find lots of postings.
Read this closely.
I came in, in the middle. I had nothing to do with any Obama, cult, or creepy comments. I merely stated that you were being nastier than the previous posters.
Whereby you have decided that I am the same ones that posted above.
I'm really sick and tired of Obama supporters being so gosh darn mean and nasty to anything that moves in the wrong direction.
It's just very sad that people that say they are for hope and all that stuff, to be so gungho nasty.
Try being nice, and just not react to these other people, or me for that matter.
You might find your blood pressure comes down a bit.
And yes, your posts tonight, if it is all you on these threads of nastiness, are quite unbecoming, and have nothing to do with any political.
You probably don't care that I'm off or on topic, and at this point I don't either. It's just a colossal waste of time and space. For both of us, by the way.
Read this closely. You've confused me with other posters.
And you jump on me like I'm the other poster(s) that you were railing about.
Geez, at least try to address the correct poster when you go on your rants.
It's very unbecoming.
If he read those words, he apparently doesn't take them to heart.
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Well, clearly you didn't read...sm
About how the blog came about, so you've missed the point. (Why am I not surprised?)
It's a blog. It's not meant to be unbiased, any more than a blog called something like "welovelovelovesarahpalin!" would be unbiased. BTW, I'm sure there's a blog like that out there somewhere, which you are free to post the url for - for her fans. (You're probably feverishly searching for it right now, come to think of it. Just ask sam, she probably has a dozen right at her fingertips. LOL) And if you do post something like that, I will not feel the need to say "That's biased!" if it's a blog.
Either side, it's women expressing their opinion, and I think that's a good thing, to get involved.
I didn't say I wasn't going to read it, gt. sm
Try and get some rest, honey. Obviously you are just not thinking clearly right now. Come back when you are thinking right. Buh-bye
Perhaps you didn't READ my post
I said -- keep it the hell out of politics.
You're welcome to claim whomever you'd like as your Saviour in the privacy of your own home and the community of your own church.
You didn't read my post
I was referring to people I talk to, as I stated. I don't generally talk to Churchill or Chomsky. In fact, I don't even pay much attention to them, nor should you. Just as I don't pay much if any attention to crazy right-wingers. Just common sense.
Didn't you read this part?
"The French system is also not inexpensive. At $3,500 per capita it is one of the most costly in Europe, yet that is still far less than the $6,100 per person in the United States."
Their system costs less per capita than our system. You bring up a good point about the doctors making less money, but should our doctors' main objective be getting rich or providing excellent care to patients? I'm sure many doctors would be happy to be able to help patients without having to beg insurance companies to cover the only cholesterol medications to help someone with severe CAD or not having to write letters pleading with insurance to cover a much-needed MRI or surgery. I transcribe letters like this all the time. Doctors are constantly taking time out of their day (and money out of their pockets) to jump through insurance companies' hoops. They are also often frustrated by patients with no insurance who refuse to pay for a potentially life-saving echocardiogram or colonoscopy. They might be happy with lower paychecks if they knew they could just go to work and help patients without having to stress about whether or not their patients can afford the medical help they need. I know some doctors are probably in it mostly for the money, but that is not the kind of doctor I want to go to!
However, I want to find out more about how France transitioned into their current program, as I imagine here it would be quite difficult to make so many changes. I believe we can do it eventually though, and anything this important is worth the effort. I do think we can learn a lot from their system though, because they have not done away with private health insurance and choices, and I think that system would be much easier for Americans to swallow.
Didn't I just read your this line in another
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you didn't read it did you. I'm a conservative
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There ya go - just another example you didn't actually read the article
If you read the article you would know the article talked about where Obama stands on issues.
Plain and simple truth. But guess that is kind of hard for some to understand.
Actually, you didn't read the post then
Didn't say she was a liar. There is a difference with calling someone a liar and saying you don't believe them.
She over did it with the drama. Sure maybe she donated to charities on her own, but all the drama about contributing to the greater care, organizing for charity, painted and nailing carpeting in "poverty stricken homes" as her "gift to her children" oh yes, all while she didn't have a pot to you know what in, all while making only 5.30 an hour. And on top of all that she moved in with her parents to take care of her dying father while herself working full-time as a supervisor several states away (wow what a commute each day that must have been). On and on an on an on. Could it have happened? Sure anything could happen. Do I believe it personally? Not in my lifetime. But that's not saying it didn't happen. Just sounds like she should be awarded the model citizen of the century award.
BTW - there is a clear difference between saying you don't believe someone and them attacking you personally.
So I'd boo-hoo on yourself.
I didn't bash anyone...and I read them all
I think that you are unfairly bashing the poor man. Diagree with his politics--fine--that's what the board is for, but what is with the personal attacks. If you don't like the words he uses, that's okay, but why make a big deal out of it. If he talks over your head, I am sure that he didn't mean to. I don't find what he writes hard to understand. I simply disagree with tons of people attacking him on a personal level--or you for that matter. I did not attack anyone personally, nor would I. I did READ all the posts and did give my comment. I stand by it.
You obviously didn't really read her post...what's happened
You used to be a pretty straightforward poster even though we were often at odds. Now you seem nasty.
I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm
U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?
Obviously you didn't read the whole article. Figures....sm
That's why I usually use non-Fox links, so the demmies will "try" to read with open mind....lol....or maybe not.....whatever.....ciao
Guess you didn't read this part . . .
From Wall Street Journal and other sites:
"At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal," Mr. Burton said in an email to reporters. "At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."
McCain released statement minutes after responding to Obama.
Evidently you didn't read the package.
Most of the money will not go to the people. So far, I have not come across anything that deals with foreclosures, etc. The item I posted last night from our local newspaper is the so-called stimulus package that will help foreclosures.
Read the doggone bill that they are trying to pass, please. Then you may see the light of day.
Boy Wonder didn't READ the bill, let alone write it!
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Evidently you didn't read the post....
no one said a black person wouldn't vote for anyone but Obama (HELLO.....Steele, etc., etc.).
I didn't bother to read your post....
I couldn't get past your heading "staying on the subject" .... the only "subject" is you..... Obama's "subject". You probably don't get that either! LOL
Nope, didn't think you'd read my message
Let me repeat....
Actually Cavuto didn't say Fox News. He said Fox.
Murdock and Fox have been in the business since 1985.
I watched the videos.
you are following me closely
I'm getting nurrrrvous.
It's really too bad you didn't take the time to read the entire transcript
of what William Bennett said, Democrat. But I am not surprised.
Wow! I read the results, but didn't know the nay sayers were repugs...sm
I mean repubs. Interesting.
Didn't read your response before I wrote mine....
lol. Good post :)
I guess we didn't know it was a joke...if you go back and read (sm)
you said you have a very strong opinion and you keep it to yourself...which sounded like you were saying that is what we should all be doing too. But the point in response to you was that the board is for political opinions to be expressed and if it bothers anyone, they don't have to come on here. I am sorry you got your feelings hurt though. I am sure it was just a communication problem.
You didn't read the AP news story on Ogden?
I posted it below in a post yesterday.
you must be referring to the previous admin. - GW didn't like to read much......
he did miss that memo about an impending attack on our country using our own private airlines..........Boy wonder? Must be referring to his super hero underwear.
You evidently didn't read my post - it was not a question
of if you think he's done harm. He has, it's a fact and no matter how much you want to cover it up you can't. You think bowing to our enemy, telling other countries we are selfish, and that we don't want our jobs so they can have them, tripling our deficit (nothing Bush had to do with -sorry can't pull that crap anymore), lining the pockets of his rich friends and CEOs, filling his cabinet with unqualified crooks and thieves, and the list goes on and on and on. And that's just the first 90 days. So the question was how many more years will it take to undo the harm. You can keep drinking the kool-aid thinking socialistm/communism is fine. It is not. Even the other countries keep telling him - "Don't go there, it is not a path you want to take", while other country leaders who are telling him not to go there are saying "why aren't you listening to us. We've been there and done that and it doesn't work".
Hence, how many more years will it take to undo the harm he has already done (and its only been less than 90 days). My guess is at least 2. It's going to be hard once he's out of office, but I do have faith the country will bounce back as long as we have some decent politicians in the office and take congress out from the control of the crats.
It's obvious you didn't read a DARN thing.....
First of all, real history is not taught in college either.... unless you are soooo lucky as to get a professor who actually LOVES history and really DID his/her homework.
My son is a history/political major and LOVES history... and I can assure you, he would put history teachers to shame in what they "think" they know.... the crap the government puts in their history books is all they are ALLOWED to teach in our public "government ran" schools!
Our history IS politics....where have you been? Teaching our kids politics IS teaching them history.... WOW! Glad my son is teaching them and not you!
This guy has been teaching for 19 years with NO complaints about his informative web site.... the parents have ALWAYS like it!
Only ONE person complained......ONE!!! No doubt a liberal jackarse who has NO loyalty or love for this country whatsoever.... another lost soul.
This guy had an introductory video where he says he truly wanted his kids to LOVE America.........what the heck is wrong with that?
He was told to remove that video because everyone "did not love America"..... huh? Then I suppose they can sit on their sorry sad butts and hate everything....who cares? This guy did nothing wrong but encourage students to love their country but of course, you WOULD have something wrong with that! Geesh!
I have been watching closely, too.
The whole MSNBC crew was out of sorts on the night Barack gave his speech. It was like they were star struck. The night before I couldn't help but notice the MSNBC camera man all over the place, zooming in on the oddest thing; it was so bad, I switched to CNN and Wolfe. Read later that a rumor about drugs was going around. Maybe someone drugged their drinks. I have watched these guys for years and this is the strangest I have seen them. They looked unfrazzled and were disagreeable with each other. With regard to Maher, I like noncomformists -he is a smart guy and so far, what he has been alluding to has all come true with regard to GOP, as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
Then you didn't read the article on the conservative board. nuff said.
backwards, you didn't read the post, just the headline PAY ATTENTION
loser
Guess you didn't read the post I made from a few days ago.
Sorry, but I haven't been able to post lately due to some problems, but the FOIA report I posted and said to pay attention to certain pages....Clinton KNEW there were WMD's in Irag in 1996! Did he do anything? Nope. He left the country he was visiting right before a bombing; i.e., he knew it was going to happen. The jist I got of the report was that he knew and did nothing.
Did you read that report? Don't want to dredge up old presidents but you seem to do it every chance you get, so I just have to respond to that. Bush also knew but did nothing because the CIA,DOJ, FBI and whatever other departments were to keep him informed but never worked together on anything so he got conflicting reports all the time. Was he a mind reader? Doubt it or 911 would not have happened.
Sorry, but this post does not hold water IMHO.
Whaaaat? Nazi-ism is more closely associated
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I watched the family closely tonight
For the first time I took a long look at Cindy McCain and her reaction to the speeches and how she acted with everyone around her. She is a beautiful lady and will make a very gracious first lady. Kind of reminds me of how Jackie O was (the lady like quality. Not frailty, but just someone that is very much the part. What a stunning outfit she wore (I'm not into the fashion thing, but I just thought she looked very beautiful tonight). I loved how she interacted with Sarah Palin's children. And how cute was that of the young girl holding the baby and then licking her hand to keep the baby's hair in place. Talk about a crack up. All of Todd & Sarah Palin's kids are so cute.
I will be very happy with Cindy McCain as first lady & Todd Palin as "first dude?" HA HA. Actually I don't think they call the VP's spouse anything do they?
you don't follow politics/economic very closely then
First - signs were not hateful. Signs were truthful but the Kool-aid drinkers don't want to admit it. You consider calling us teabaggers, hillbillies, and rednecks as perfectly fine, but the minute someone points out that he is following the same path as socialist leaders you label that as "hate". What's worse is other countries are pointing it out too, not just Americans. Unfortunately it's the truth no matter whether you want to believe it or not. Last night I was watching a special about Hitler and his henchmen, and how a lot of people think he escaped. Well listing to the people talk about what he and his henchman did, I kept thinking...wait a minute...that's going on right now - (no not the genocide thing), but the way they ran their government back then. The reason you might have seen those signs on Fox was because there were no other channels covering it. BSNBC and the Communist News Network didn't cover it. Our local channels didn't cover it either. Between 250,000 to 300,000 people attended and they pretended nothing happened. What's amazing is they'll cover a story of some ducks crossing a road in some town I've never heard of, or some little kiddy motor scooter race in another unknown town, but over 2000 cities host the tea parties where there are peaceful demonstrations because people are unhappy with the government and they are excersing their right to freedom of speech (you remember the same things democrats were fighting and pushing for when Bush was in office). But there comes a double standard when only democrats can do it but republicans and independents are suppose to remain subservient and not say anything and let us be starved and unemployed and lose our homes and have to go live in shelters and we're suppose to be happy and never say anything???
As for inciting hate and racism...that is exactly what BSNBC is doing when they have Keith Olbermann show or Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews. And then to have people like J Gorofool speak her utter hatred and racism and stupidity is unleashed. Now what she and Olbermann and the other clowns at BSNBC do...that there is inciting hate and racism. Pure and simple, no two ways about it. Why don't you actually watch Fox news before critising it. There is no hate and racism. What is racist about saying... I'm sick of congress and government taxing me to death, sending my job overseas, and I'm now having to foreclose on my house. I'm tired of them taking my money in taxes which I have no control over and they are spending it on themselves and their friends. What is racist about that???
So, after reading very closely, fair and honest means
jumping into the middle calling a perfect stranger beyond nasty without regard to the context of the thread? Oh wait, that can't be right, since you seem to be aware that I am an Obama supporter who does not appreciate being painted with the broad brush stroke of "cult worshiper" after my original post describing the Baltimore stopover in terms of tears of joy and Obama's response of "I love you back." Yeah, right. I'm the mean and nasty one here and the Obot/cult worship post needed defending after the thread (what?) "moved in the wrong direction?" Did you not notice that the original post was completely void of mean and nasty UNTIL the Obot response appeared? Guess not.
So then you jump in, take a side and tell me how nasty I am and then can't understand when I attempt to address you AND the content of the thread you decided to interrupt. Are you with me so far?
Let me tell you what is really sad. It's really sad that someone cannot get up on this forum and express a little bit of joy without being called names and having their feet held to the fire. We are for hope, but we aren't door mats and certainly aren't stupid enough to try to reach out to vipers all coiled up in the grass waiting to strike.
Like I said before, insults in and insults out. Do not sit here and try to prescribe your brand of "nice" for my blood pressure. In spite of your "if," you still do not hesitate to presume I am responsible for all the mean and nasty on the board...I simply posted about Baltimore. That's it, so don't try to lecture me any further on your highly evolved sense of decorum and "becoming."
I don't think that getting both sides of a story out in the open is a waste of time and space, especially when all I did was simply try to express a little happy here. Just look at the price I have to pay for that.
Fair and honest assessment? I think I get it now.
apparently
he wanted Lieberman or Tom Ridge. he was informed that if he picked Lieberman, there would be a floor fight on the convention floor to prevent that selection. His campaign is stagnant, so he decided to appeal to the extreme conservative base. It has backfired on him because, in going for those voters, he chose a partner whose lifestyle shows the limitations and consequences of extreme right views such as abstinence only programs and not providing birth control info to teenagers.
apparently
that view is that the left is one big monolithic mind that works as one Kinda like bees.
And apparently they are not the only ones. nm
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apparently
one who posts an opinion that differs from the majority here is labeled a "troll." Labels do not deter me from expressing my viewpoint. I am certain that others will agree with my assessment before the day is over.
As far as giving liberals a bad name, pack-think is rather primitive.
Apparently more than you!
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Apparently...
Your reality is based on your brother and his friends and their friends and your friends at church. I have a news flash for you. There is a whole country outside of your little town with a much different reality that you know nothing about. So please keep your small-town reality to yourself and stop trying to tell us that we should all join you.
Apparently not who you think I am........ sm
since you seem to think I said you were no better than the rapist. I don't know where the heck you got that, lady, but I never said anything even CLOSE to that.
I did say "a rapist can only have as much control on the victim AFTER THE FACT as she allows." After the fact means after the rape. It does not mean that any woman asks to be raped or that she is on the same level as her rapist. It means that, if a woman allows herself to ruminate on the act for months or years afterward, the rapist still has control over her.
You asked if I feel you should have given birth, too, and my answer to that would have to be yes. I feel that you should have allowed your child to have life, and then if you decided you couldn't raise it (and I would totally agree with that since you were just a child yourself) I believe you should have allowed it to be adopted.
I'm really sorry for your pain as I would not wish that on anyone, and yes, I would go hunting if I had a daughter who was raped. I obviously struck a deep, long buried nerve with you, and I'm sorry for that.
Apparently they don't
However, I think they're dead wrong. There are a lot of voters on both sides (Dem and Repub) who see a major problem with one party having too much power and will vote accordingly to even things up.
You are an ignoramus...apparently you don't know of
anyone who was Viet Nam. There were plenty of problems caused by the war itself....not just what you "read," but then again, I doubt you understand the written word!
Apparently she was covert tho
or none of this would be happening AND the only reason everybody and their 3rd cousin knew where she worked is because someone leaked it. It may be much ado about nothing, but if thats true why take two years to investigate it? From everything I read, Fitzgerald is not a partisian hack for either side, but a real honest to goodness good guy who loves to take down bad guys, politicians or mafia or whoever he is after. I realize that last sentence was a bit simplistic, but you get the general idea. And if indictments do come out of this and they are of anyone in the White House, it is going to be a very very big deal. And in the periphery of all of this, is the lead in to possible mismangement of intelligence in order to lead us into war. THAT is why all the pundits are salivating and why Fox News and Rush L are gettin so upset. It may end up to be a tempest in a teapot or it may bring down the Bush Administration. Only time will tell. Either way there will be a lot of upset people out there, whichever way it turns out.
Apparently you did not look far enough for the quote...
This is from the Washington Post, transcript of the conversation:
Vice President Cheney: Dec. 9, 2001 -- Meet the Press
RUSSERT: Let me turn to Iraq. When you were last on this program, September 16, five days after the attack on our country, I asked you whether there was any evidence that Iraq was involved in the attack and you said no. Since that time, a couple articles have appeared which I want to get you to react to. The first: "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."
And this from James Woolsey, former CIA director: "We know that at Salman Pak, on the southern edge of Baghdad, five different eyewitnesses--three Iraqi defectors and two American U.N. Inspectors--have said--and now there are aerial photographs to show it--a Boeing 707 that was used for training of hijackers, including non-Iraqi hijackers trained very secretly to take over airplanes with knives." And we have photographs. As you can see that little white speck--and there it is, the plane on the ground in Iraq used to train non-Iraqi hijackers. Do you still believe there's no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11?
There ya go. Meet the Press only has transcripts on line back to 2003. I checked. If you look hard enough, there are other publications who published the actual transcript. Russert said it.
As to the fuselage in the desert: Charles Deulfer, former Deputy Head, U.N. Special Commission for Iraq, told NPR, "There were lots of places in Iraq where training of non-Iraqis, or things, which by our lexicon would be considered terrorism, was taking place. That's why Iraq is on the terrorist list. Having a large aircraft, a 707, in a peninsula, completely visible from the air or from satellite, with no airline runways nearby, that's not there by accident."
As to the smartalecky crack who was in the "meeting"...I posted that I heard him say it during the 9-11 commission meeting hearings and I DID. They were televised and there were certainly more than 3 people present. They asked him about the "slam dunk" comment regarding the intelligence and WMD, and he replied: "I thought it WAS a slam dunk. We ALL did." I don't know what meeting you are talking about with only three present. I am talking about what he testified to before the 9-11 commission in their hearings, which I did hear. And, frankly, I think out of the man's own mouth is a pretty reliable source.
Yes, I agree it is hard to get the real story, especially since the story tellers change their stories like other people change their underwear. Tim Russert is just one of them. Richard Armitage is another. So which time do we believe them? Which time is really the truth? No way to know.
I said the source of the reporting does not matter if the information can be substantiated. I don't discount everything I hear on a liberal station if I can substantiate it. A very simple example: If Fox News printed the sun was shining, and you looked out and the sun was shining...you could pretty well believe it, even if Fox is the one who printed it. That was my point...if it is a fact, who prints it does not matter. Who declines to print or report it though...that also indicates something.
Have a good evening, Taiga!
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