And the nice little topping on the cake

Hi, GP.

I had posted this a few days ago; it's down the page somewhere, but, in true Bush style, he is taking care of his "base" right up until the end.  I apparently failed to provide the link when I posted it, but anyone interested can just Google the title below, and multiple links will pop up.

I'm thinking the "trickle up" theory is how things SHOULD be.  ALLOW the little guy at the bottom to be ABLE to afford a 1989 clunker; allow the guy who's a little above that to be ABLE to afford maybe a 2000 Chevy Cavalier, and ALLOW the guy who's standing on the next rung of the ladder upward to buy a new Mustang.  The guys who are standing at the top can still afford their Porsches and Benzes, but EVERYONE would have access to some things in life that most of us feel are essentials, not luxuries.  Probably won't be too many new American cars to buy, though, because there isn't a level playing field when it comes to "free trade."  I personally think this whole "free trade" thing should be scrapped and reinvented so that it benefits American CITIZENS and not just American EXECUTIVES.

Instead of sneaking a little "P.S." in the middle of the night like Bush did to make sure his rich criminal buddies get their bonuses, why NOT start the "trickle-up" program and make them work for their bonuses?

"Trickle down" simply doesn't work because nothing is "trickling."  The greediest at the top (Bush's base) are the ones who are benefiting, and the most needy (formerly known as the "middle class" and Obama's "base") are being stomped on BIG TIME. 

Frequently, this whole mess reminds me of the movie "Trading Places," where two rich old men play with and manipulate the lives of two people and create havoc -- all for a ONE-DOLLAR BET.  If it didn't feel and sound so familiar to what Americans are experiencing today, it might even be funny.  Instead, it feels like we're all being manipulated on a much more sinister level.

I think someone should force Bush, Cheney, Paulson and a few other "elites" on Wall Street to empty their pockets before they leave Washington, since one of the conditions of the Wall Street bailout was that it would all be done in secret, with no transparency, and no list of the recipients of what is now trillions of dollars.

I can remember my mortgage when trickle down Reaganomics was going strong.  The interest was 16-1/2%.  This is how we got here.  Time to trickle up.

Bush Administration created executive pay loophole

The Bush Administration inserted an eleventh-hour provision into the $750 billion bailout bill to protect executive bonuses, a single sentence that will torpedo efforts to reduce bonuses even as companies slash tens of thousands of jobs and use taxpayer money to gobble up other companies at fire-sale prices.

Pressured by constituents who worried that companies would take government aid and continue to pay their executives eye-popping bonuses, Congress inserted a provision that would penalize companies who took taxpayer money and shelled out outsized bonuses.

But at the last minute, Bush officials insisted on a one-sentence provision that stopped the measure in its tracks, according to congressional aides who spoke to the Washington Post.

The change stipulated that the sanction would only apply to firms that sold mortgage backed securities to the government at auction, which the Bush Treasury Department said would be the method they'd use to infuse troubled companies with bailout cash.

"Now, however, the small change looks more like a giant loophole, according to lawmakers and legal experts" who spoke to Post reporter Amit Paley. "In a reversal, the Bush administration has not used auctions for any of the $335 billion committed so far from the rescue package, nor does it plan to use them in the future. Lawmakers and legal experts say the change has effectively repealed the only enforcement mechanism in the law dealing with lavish pay for top executives."

"The flimsy executive-compensation restrictions in the original bill are now all but gone," Sen. Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa and ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, told Paley.

According to Paley, "The final legislation contained unprecedented restrictions on executive compensation for firms accepting money from the bailout fund. The rules limited incentives that encourage top executives to take excessive risks, provided for the recovery of bonuses based on earnings that never materialize and prohibited 'golden parachute' severance pay. But several analysts said that perhaps the most effective provision was the ban on companies deducting more than $500,000 a year from their taxable income for compensation paid to their top five executives."

This amendment to the Internal Revenue Code was the only part of the bailout measure that had an explicit enforcement mechanism.

Bush officials initially opposed executive compensation rules. Banks, in particular, had been taking heat for "golden parachute" cases, where top executives received lavish pay upon their departure even if they'd done a poor job leading their company.

It remains unclear whether the Administration ever intended to limit executive pay -- if perhaps they knew in advance that Treasury didn't intend to buy mortgage assets at auction all along -- as they'd told Congress.

• Trickle up poverty - gourdpainter
  • And the nice little topping on the cake - Marmann
  • Salisbury is a left-wing liberal writer.So, - what did you THINK he would say..garbage.nm
    • Salisbury is the one who first coined this phrase,. - (sm)
      • Now there's a novel idea! - gourdpainter
    • Did you happen to READ what I said? - gourdpainter
  • Yeah, baby. Excellent article. - nm
  • Have to agree, although - Zville MT
    • Am more concerned about ALL the Chicago crooks! - nm
      • I'm pretty concerned about the Texas crooks s/m - gourdpainter
        • No joke! And no, I doubt they have any friends in Chicago, either. - Zville MT
          • It should be pretty obvious - gourdpainter
            • You nailed it, GP. - Marmann
              • Congress - gourdpainter
            • I'm behind you on that one 100% - Zville MT
      • Why? They're not the ones asking for money... - Zville MT
        • They don't need to ask, they are about - to be in charge of all of
        • LOL I doubt Bush/Cheney have many friends in Chicago - gourdpainter

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If this man will lie about a GI bracelet, what WON'T he lie about?  Come on, y'all! Wake up!

I didn't copy the entire thing (no no, right?).  It appears that you'd have to go to the site to download it.  Keep an eye out to see if the drivebys (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, NYT, etc.) mention it.  I'm hoping they'll have no choice.  There will be a ton of crying and hand wringing beforehand, you can be sure if it ever happens at all.

(H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)

http://tinyurl.com/45q5r6
or:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/28/family-told-obama-not-wear-soldier-sons-bracelet-where-media
Family Told Obama NOT To Wear Soldier Son's Bracelet... Where is Media?
By Warner Todd Huston
September 28, 2008  

Barack Obama played the "me too" game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.
Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.
Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show "Route 51" asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail.
Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because "she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name." Jopek went on to say that "she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event" and "just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself." Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal.
But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign soundbyte. This begins at about 10 minutes into the radio program. (Download radio show HERE)    (H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)

When a woman gets attacked by a man with knife, do you condemn her because she didn't fight back hard enough?I say condemn the attacker, not the attackee....you attack folks and then condemn them because there feelings where hurt instead of addressing the real problem which is your bullying. 

This comes from the same pinheads who were absolutely certain that Rush would go outta business when Clinton got elected.  Yeah, right!  20 million listeners at least, and HOW many hundreds of millions later?

And y'all actually think Keith Overbite & Mr. Potato Head actually discuss news seriously when 1 has crabs or something crawling up his leg?  And give up the opiates re Rush.  He fixed that problem, but didn't do the resume enhancement like the celebutards do.  Start that empty crap & I'll just keep listing their names.

And just to clarify things, in case anyone didn't catch the post about the NAGS, that's Rush's pet name for the National Assn of GalS.  I knew I wasn't the only Dittohead on the embarrassment of a board.

Face it. Y'all have nothing to offer here, just empty insults and thrills over women "choosing" to kill babies.  That's the only definition y'all have of "choice."  Funny, but I thought choice was supposed to mean that the woman decided either way. Nice try once again.

I take you comparing me to Sam as a compliment though as I do value a lot of the same opinions.

However, once again, instead of actually coming on with facts and trying to prove an actual point, I find someone who just spats out anything.  I was not the one who started this post.  I was just stating my opinion and sharing some experiences I've had raising horses and what has happened in the past when deer hunting was not allowed.  Those are things that I have seen first hand. 

Doubt that will happen, but my husband and I could pay off the house we just built, have money for the kids college education, etc. 

Our economy is in a bad way, so what does "O" do?  Raise taxes!  What on earth are y'all thinking!  So taking $ from you to give to someone else makes sense?

This is comparable to the women who went totally nuts over the Beatles! 

Check your taxes for 2007, 2008, then 2009.  The facts will speak for themselves.

Just more white guilt, too, which is also pitiful.

Yeah, that so-called nutjob recently signed another long-term contract (7 years, I believe) for how many millions?

I never miss his show. 

Have you ever actually listened to his show?  You'd like his official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley.  You can find clips on google. 

When I got married, we used his theme song to announce the wedding party at the reception

informal setting.  Every pol goes for a photo op once in a while, just to remind you they are around.  I enjoy seeing him smile and interact with people.  He makes me smile.  God Bless America, how fortunate we are to have him at this time in history.

follow the rules of this board, but some apparently think they are above the rules.

The two posters you pointed out are not the only ones who call other posters names, especially in the last week or so that I've noticed, but the instead of falling into the argumentative mode, you need to ignore their posts.

economy is in ruins, we have spies interfering with our electronic grid, our president bows to the Saudi King, every country still hates us even with Obama's major butt kissing and you are concerned about Levi and Bristol?  Who cares.  How many teenagers really stay together even when there is a baby involved?  This isn't a matter of national security.  It is a teenage girl who screwed her boyfriend and got knocked up and then they broke up.  Like that never happens anywhere else in the world.

I personally couldn't care less if Levi and Bristol broke up.  Who cares?  If you like teenage drama, you might want to watch the N channel and get your fill with Degrassi or something and keep this nonsense off the political board.

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.

Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.

Maybe you should do some research next time.

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.

Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.

Maybe you should do some research next time.

With respect to the 10% tax, I still think $9,000,000 of disposable income goes a lot farther than $9,000, and 10% of $10,000,000 is just a drop in the bucket, compared to 10% of $10,000.

Anyway, my understanding of the "Fair Tax" is that it isn't based on income.  It's based on "consumption." It's (my paraphrasing) a federal sales tax instead of a federal income tax.  And spending up to the poverty level is tax-free, with their "fair tax rebate."

So if someone can afford to buy that 2006 Ferrari, they can also afford to pay the tax.  If someone can only afford a $500 1989 Mitsubishi, they will probably not have to pay any tax if it is considered under the poverty level.

This only addresses federal government tax issues, though.  It doesn't even begin to touch state, county and local taxation.

And from what I've read, I haven't heard what percentage of tax they are proposing. 

So I'm still not sure which I'm leaning towards.  I'm actually sort of swaying between the 10% and the "fair tax."

Nice to see you here, thanks for the invitation, and I agree.  We should debate here.

Below is from the Protestwarrior website or else "RNC Watch":

Although the Protest Warriors usually make a big deal about how they have been the victims of leftist "violence," several of their recent bulletin board posts advocate carrying concealed weapons to demonstrations at the RNC. "I would bring pepper spray," writes one. "I will be utilizing my concealed weapons permit," writes another. "We should be prepared for violence," writes a third. These posts are similar to the infamous CraigsList NYC posting of more than a year ago in which a New Yoker wrote that "We need good old fashioned Conservatives, the kind that believe in God, Country, and Family (the Mom and Dad kind), the kind that played football, baseball, and basketball, to help with security [at the RNC]. This is totally separate from the organized Convention. We will meet the groups determined to disrupt the open discussion of ideas (the Convention) with a group of our own and battle them in the streets of New York."

You can also see picture of the founders of Protest Warriors lovingly cradling high-powered fire-arms on the PW website. "ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed," the site operators write.

(Picture Caption: The Founder of Protest Warriors) Recently, a small media stir was created by a tiny, right-wing fringe group known as the Protest Warriors.

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ProtestWarrior Forum Index » Now that's Entertainment » Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 125, 126, 127  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:50 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male We recently drove out to San Angelo, TX to meet up with our good friend Chris, a Marine who offered to take us out shooting and teach us the finer points of peace through superior firepower. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_08.jpg Chris has some GREAT bumper stickers on his car. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_01.jpg "Phased plasma pulse-laser in the forty watt range... " "Just what you see, pal." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_03.jpg Chris brought a wide selection. Everything from 22s to 357 hand cannons. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_02.jpg "Leftist troll 12 o' clock." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_04.jpg Can you tell I'm a big John Woo fan? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_07.jpg When I hold you in my arms And I feel my finger on your trigger I know nobody can do me no harm Because happiness is a warm gun... -Lennon/McCartney http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg You feeling lucky, punk? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_10.jpg Is there anything sweeter than the sound of shotgun shells ejecting? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_05.jpg Chris is one guy you do not want to f--k with. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_09.jpg Chris was kind enough to loan us some weapons to take back with us, so thanks to him ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed. So to all the leftists that want to completely disarm the populace, all we have to say is come get some. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm BPond Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Total posts: 7833 Hell yeah! Those are great photos! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm OB_one Location: Virginia (Northern Neck) Age: 72 Gender: Male Great Pics Alan. Looks like you two gonna become real "badasses" Thanks for sharing. OB Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:14 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg Somebody who knows how to doctor images should write "PWNAGE!" right across this sweet picture. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:15 pm BOgg Gender: Unknown great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:17 pm TheInfragableKrunk Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Total posts: 14052 Location: Washington, American Empire (AE) Age: 20 Gender: Male Actually we stand for peace via superior firepower. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:18 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male BOgg wrote: great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. BOgg earlier wrote: One thing's for sure, prepare for your in-home (usa) war, too much opposition is growing and its gonna blow in your faces. If bush is re-elected, ill be the first to assassinate him. Yeah, we're not peace-lovers like Bogg. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:21 pm Moderate Centrist Location: Neve Dekalim, Gush Katif Age: 29 Gender: Male Alan, you guys are heros. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male Alan and Kfir, Why can't you ban that pseudo-poet, Straight Outta Here, He wants it and you know it! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Be nice. LMAO. xx So nice to see you back! I hope you had a great getaway.  Unfortunately, as you can see, nothing has changed here.  You continue to be attacked/stalked, even when you're not here!  I personally missed you and wish I DID know you in real life.  I'd be very proud to call you friend.  Anyway, I'm very glad to see you back and look forward to reading your posts because you always add something of value, unlike some people who only come here to be rude and start trouble. I'd say they were raised by wolves, but wolves have better manners and values. Now, now, dear, it's not nice to lie.  I said no such thing. And one of the other voices in your head has already judged me and declared that the Rapture will pass me by, which is fine with me.  Would prefer to spend eternity with those who are nice, loving, kind and HAPPY.   It was very nice while it lasted. Can't say I'm surprised, though.  They must be busting at the seams by now.  Nice web site Very many thanks for a good work. Nice and useful. Like it! Nice to meet you too! Welcome...nm Nice rant....however... look up perjury. Perjury is a lying UNDER OATH. A felony. Just plain old lying....like people do every day...just plain old lying. Just in case you did not know...when a President is sworn in he puts the hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the laws of the United States of America. Whoops!! So he not only perjured himself..he broke his oath. But no big deal...right? OF course not. You love generalities don't you? Liars like Bush and his ilk...I could say the same thing about Billary...liars and their ilk. They have both been caught in so many...as I am sure every other politician on the face of the earth. Some of these posters remind me of the cliques in junior high who made fun of the fat kids or the kids in glasses, yada yada...same bullies, all grown up. Sigh. Nice video. Thanks Cat!! nm © Copyright 2001-09 MTStars.com All Rights Reserved