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And I remember the 1967 land grab

Posted By: sm on 2009-01-04
In Reply to: And I remember the 72 Olympics. - FeFiFo

Why would anybody listen to someone who has ice water running through they veins, a black heart and mush for brains?


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It's not Arab land tho'. The land has always belonged to the Jews!

Whatever the U.S. does or doesn't do where Israel and the middle east is involved is irrelevant.  The land of Israel is THE promised land.  It belongs to the Jews.  They have had to fight for it against odds stacked against them and have won.


the 1967 war...........nm
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Shall we grab our

pitch fork and torches and head to D.C.?


I am so disgusted right now it isn't funny.  Our government cannot be trusted.  I am 100% against this stimulus package because it won't work.  I'm disgusted that people like Gaithner can cheat on his taxes and tell us he made an honest mistake and yet either way he still gets appointed to the IRS.  Are you kidding me?  The man "made a mistake" on his taxes and you are appointing him to the IRS.  HELLO?  Doesn't anyone else see a problem with this?  Even if it was an honest mistake......isn't that kind of like his job to know about taxes?  Doesn't that go hand in hand with the IRS? 


What about these lobbyists that will have no place in Washington when Obama was running for pres.  Now that he is pres, not only has he changed his mind about lobbyists but he also didn't go by his own rules set up about hiring lobbyists.....HELLO?  Is any one listening?


Rush Limbaugh....not my favorite person but ya know what.....he has just as much right to rant and rave about his beliefs.  Now we have dems wanting him shut up?  It's okay to let the gay community spray paint messages on the sides of churches and run around in the middle of the service kissing each other and that is all cool but OMG.....don't let Rush talk.  Are you friggin kidding me?


I really do not have a warm and fuzzy feeling about what is to come at all. 


Speech by Martin April 4, 1967 sm

Decided to post this because it fits so much to today.  Same old media tactics too. 

 

A Time to Break Silence

By Rev. Martin Luther King

By 1967, King had become the country's most prominent opponent of the Vietnam War, and a staunch critic of overall U.S. foreign policy, which he deemed militaristic. In his Beyond Vietnam speech delivered at New York's Riverside Church on April 4, 1967 -- a year to the day before he was murdered -- King called the United States the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.

Time magazine called the speech demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi, and the Washington Post declared that King had diminished his usefulness to his cause, his country, his people.


Then why do you gleefully grab...
onto anything you can find to smear the man, even when it comes from gossip or worse the National Enquirer or even you opinion that he LOOKS like he has a hangover.  You have no credible evidence that he is drinking.  Would you like someone to assume that about you after seeing you after working a long shift or something?  It's just not right.
Prepare to grab your ankles then.
You will still have your head in the sand when your kids are dragged off for their three months of Hitler Youth ... oops ... I mean Obama Civil Defense Force indoctrination.

Can you smell the coffee yet?
I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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But it is not US land. nm

I believe in God. but you are in the la-la land...nm
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Oh of course....in the land where you are innocent if...
proven not guilty...you are seizing on poor judgment. Don't you think it is poor judgment to consort with terrorists and spend 20 years in an america-hating church? This is not bad judgment? McCain did not cost us anything. Keating, the one who perpetrated the financial debacle...is responsible for that loss.
Promised land...(sm)
Promised by who?  A god that half of the world doesn't believe in?  Sorry, that doesn't hold water. 
cant have an economy without a healthy land
Frankly, you cant have an economy, if you have no livable land or healthy people.  First and foremost is the land and it's people and animals.  Without all of that, we will not have an economy.  Funny how other industrialized countries are signing on..you know the countries who take care of their citizens with health care, paid maternity leave, paid vacation time..The caring countries..not the capitalistic class divided society of America.  OMG, just in New Orleans now you can see who are the fortunate ones versus the unfortunate ones.  The minorities are mostly all the unfortunate ones cause they could not afford to get out of town.  They are the ones hurting and rebelling.  This is the picture of America today.  The *haves* and *have nots* and Bush continues to give to the *haves* and do nothing for the *have nots*.
Living in the land of Camelot
I have a hard time believing anyone alive during JFK's administration could still believe that fairytale. He most definitely was not one of the greatest leaders of all time.

But you're right about Obama inspiring millions in much the same way, and I certainly agree that he will be transformational.
Denial like this will land you in the same place
GOP needs to come to terms with where it went wrong, starting with a healthy dose of truth, washed down with a gallon of circumspection. Dems BTDT. If you need any pointers, just ask. BTW, it would be helpful for you to try the realize just which party the American people held responsible by taking another look at the election results.
It is as much Israeli as ALSO Palestinian land...nm
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Just like it wasn't British land....(sm)
when Britian decided to give it to the Jews.
Only in the land of Oz. Overthrow? It's called election.
So now he's plotting to kill or harm arou sovereign? No. Violation of allegience to covereign or state? No. Betrayal of trust or confidence; breach of faith (as in counter espionage). No. Treachery. No. Grasping at straws? Yes. Unable to win an election on the merits of your candidate and party platform? Most definitely. Paranoid and delusional? Classic.
He has been elected to the highest office in the land.
Your first clue might be global markets in the a.m. Watch them skyrocket.
What land in Texas is even worth 'grabbing'?
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With Dr. Paul, everything is connected to the law of the land, the Constitution. sm
He does not personally condone drug use, but in the Constitution there is no authority that prohibits people from making personal choices.

Here is something more recent from him on that topic.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=40
You might want to research what those 8000 people did with that barren land....

From PW


This small piece of land has always been barren and squalid until 1967 when after the Arabs failed in yet another imperialist attempt to destroy the Jewish state, Israel took it over. Since then 8,000 brave pioneers have resided in a portion of Gaza. They settled in on infertile beach sand and were told by everyone that nothing had ever grown there and nothing ever would. Instead, what they accomplished was an agricultural miracle. Utilizing advanced technology which they invented, they made the sand blossom and built greenhouses that produce chemical-free bug-free organic produce that is shipped around the world and renown for its incredible quality and taste.

Now if a Muslim country had taken over this land they would have expelled all the 'infidels'. But the Jewish settlers came with garlands of peace, hope and opportunity. The greenhouses they built employ Palestinians at wages far higher than they would make under any Arab dictatorship, and have forged true bonds of harmony and friendship:

Saed, a 42-year-old greenhouse worker who commutes every day from Khan Yunis, said, For me, it's a really good life. I make enough money to feed my family. I am close with my bosses, who treat me with respect. I don't want to be out of a job. Fhaud, 63, a greenhouse supervisor, said he has grown attached to his Jewish employers. I've known my boss since he was a kid and I worked for his father, he said. Some workers here have known three generations of Jewish families. I was invited to all the bar mitzvahs and weddings. Mahmoud, who works in the same greenhouse, said, I don't want the disengagement to go through. Not just because I'll lose a job, but because I'll lose friends.

So Jews and Arabs working together, turning the desert green. In a sane world we would be commending these Jewish settlers for sowing real seeds of peace. Of course, this is not a sane world, for next week all this has to be dismantled and turned over to Islamic terrorists in the name of 'peace'. For the first time in world history a country is going to forcibly remove its own people and give land over to its sworn enemies.

So now that the poor Palestinians of Gaza are to be freed from their 'occupation', are they rejoicing in their independence and making plans to plow their energies into building communities and farms and schools and infrastructure? Are they preparing to serve as a model to the world that a country under Islamic law with a fresh start and no colonial 'imperialists' can succeed? Are they ready to turn their state into a free and prosperous Palestinian country?

At a mass rally in Gaza City last Thursday, some 10,000 Palestinians danced, sang, and chanted, Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem. Jamal Abu Samhadaneh, commander of Gaza's Popular Resistance Committees, announced on Sunday, We will move our cells to the West Bank and warned that The withdrawal will not be complete without the West Bank and Jerusalem. The Palestinian Authority's Ahmed Qurei also asserts, Our march will stop only in Jerusalem. Meanwhile Hamas has officially announced that they will continue its war to destroy Israel by launching Qassam rockets at Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and communities in Judea and Samaria. We're sure they'll be making full use of their new seaport to import weapons and munitions to keep the carnage coming.

What's becoming clear is how the religion of Islam is addicted to war and mayhem. Not a radical minority, not a rogue sect, but its very essence is about submission and sacrifice and proving your worth by worshipping death in this life to gain a paradise of orgies and drunkenness. Their entire history is of warfare, and any accomplishments of their so-called Golden Age has been proven to be merely parasitic off the cultures they've conquered and reduced to dhimmi servitude. That every country under sharia is corrupt, belligerent, desolate and barbaric obviously gives them no pause, except to constantly drive them into further psychotic rage as they refuse to ever accept any responsibility for their conditions. They are akin to the powers in Orwell's 1984; there must always be an enemy. It's no surprise that women are treated like property in these countries as that's the only way Muslim men can feed their egos, to dominate others rather than ever actually produce something.

What a victory for these people that their terrorism has paid off, with Western intellectuals cheering them on. You can only wonder how many youth who have been brainwashed from birth in the madrassas and draped in their culture of bomb-worship and martyrdom will join the global jihad as it now appears they actually have a chance to win. While our soldiers at Guantanamo have to wear rubber gloves when handing out Korans, it's pretty reasonable for them to conclude that the West is ready to fall and the global caliphate is a real possibility. Israel's retreat from Gaza will certainly do wonders for their recruiting.


LoL! Must be changing of the guard in crasher-trasher land.

The solution is pretty simple.  If you don't like the liberal sermon, then don't attend the liberal church.


Other than that, I couldn't care less what you think.  Have a nice day.


Oh yeah, that is a qualification for the 2nd highest office in the land.
And pay off the debt the GOP created.

Obama lives in a fantasy land of his own making.
Unfortunately, he is also a gifted speaker and is leading many people down the yellow brick road to a magical make believe land. Too bad Obama can't see the big picture of anything.
Polls may not be accurate as pollsters call land...sm
lines and many people only have cell phones. 
Your kind live in a fantasy land....too lazy to even
Sorry to disappoint you but I am independent. I have sat and watched posters like yourself who have absolutely nothing to prove false any facts proven on this board.

You are a bunch of sad desperate people. People like you have given democrats a bad name and have pulled the democratic party in the mud.
yeah, and I've got this land for sale in Florida..
A little naive. of course he is going to try to level the playing field. Perhaps you are the one misunderstanding.
Wanders the desert for 40 years before occupation of the land
now known as Israel. The palestinians which were sent into exile are in the millions. Even my Jewish friends agree that Israel is being ruthless (they have the right to protect themselves, they say. This is what they should have done before the Holocaust. Jewish guilt stems from their failure to do so, resulting in their loved ones miserable deaths).

And, the world waited for a long time during the Holocaust before acting. Where was America and England, they must have thought. Years went by and they suffered tremendously. And the strongest survived - and the Jews do remember they were ignored at their time of need by the entire world - that in itself would justify in their minds a lack of loyalty to any other country other than Israel.

Sharon said: "Israel owns America and America knows it."
Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
Israel's "occupation" of their land is the most godly thing in the middle east.

Israel needs the help of no one.  They will always prevail because they are backed by God -- the one true God.  All those who come against the people of Israel will suffer loss.  It is not out of fear that Israel arms itself, it is out of a deep understanding of their past, present, and future revealed to them by God.  Israel is loved by God and hated by their muslim neighbors because of that fact. 


There is no Palestine.  As I said before, the palestinians are squatters.  Claiming a land that never belong to them and never will be promised to them.  Their name is not on the lease! 


I know my history of the region. The land of Israel is the hands of its rightful owners.

The Palestinians have been given the opportunity in 1947 when the UN granted a mandate separating the land into two states.  The palestinians rejected the mandate and launched a civil war that Israel quickly won and declared their independence.  Then in 1948 Israel was invaded by Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan which Israel one as well.  The palestinians were given their chance and decided on violence instead and they were the losers.  That's how it cookie crumbles.


In 1973 once again Israel's angry neighbors tried to invade, the Yom Kippur war.  Israel was winning that one too when a cease fire was called.  The palestinians lost fair and square.  They could peacefully have coexisted with the Israeli's but they continually reject any peaceful solution and send their suicide bombers.  Let's not forge the Oslo Peace Process in the early 1990s where Israeli government once again extended the olive branch agreeing to the PLO to form an autonomous government if they could agree to coexist with Israel and recognize Israel's right to exist.  The palestinians answer?  To laung Intifada II against the Israelis.  Once again, more violence perpetrated by the palestinians.


Finally, what about the Sharon's disengagement plan implemented in 2005?  Israeli government removed civilian and military presence from the Gaza Strip as a gesture to the palestinians so they could no longer claim that Gaza was an occupied" territory.  Even after that gesture, the palestinians have refused to recognize Israel. 


The palestinians do not want peace with the Israelis.  They will settle for no less than the total annihilation of Israel as a nation which is the what the entire Arab world wants.


 


Just remember

"the South don't need you around anyhow..."    from Lynard Synard "Sweet Home Alabama"


 


we each remember what

we value most.  I will remember the years of prosperity and delight of having such an intelligent, charismatic leader.  You can remember the blow jobs if you wish.  I  rarely think about JFK in the WH pool with bimbos, because he was so much more than that.  Just a helpful hint.


 


 


I remember one of

the other speakers - Britt Exhume.


 


remember that

song by Cindy Lauper "True Colors."   I see your true colors shining through . . .  If you cannot recognize inappropriate behavior in a statesman, you shouldnt be commenting.


 


remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJJN9qwhkkE
Yes, I remember very well. nm
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Uhh...if I remember right,
It was Michelle Bachmann who BLAMED Chris Matthews for TRICKING her into answering the way she did. She is undoubtedly unqualified to be a congresswoman...let's just get rid of her. She can get a REAL JOB.
You may not be old enough to remember......... sm
the Nixon administration and a lot of the news reporters these days aren't for sure, but I am and I remember how paranoid he was. He was really one strange bird! As far as the foul language, I doubt he could outdo some of our other more stellar presidents from years gone by. FDR was no altar boy.

Any person who takes a public office, regardless of the level, is open for public criticism. I guess that is the American way. But even though there may be damage done to our country, the ultimate time of truth comes between him/her and their Maker. That is one time of recompense that no one will escape.
remember 9/11?
Find me anyone in this country who wasn't ready to go to war on September 12, 2001. Where would we be now? And if you travel, you will find many countries still love America and what it stands for. Why do you think so many people come here from other countries? Having traveled, I have seen it myself.
Are you old enough to remember who
You and Fox News actually think that the former Iran-contra McCain compadre war profiteering arms dealing Contra coup financier, megalomaniac military man who holds himself above the law North has any credibility whatsoever? His notorious flagrant disregard for the boundaries of his own authority and self-proclaimed untouchable status flies in the face of any American with any respect for the rule of law. Get real.
Right. I seem to remember after
9/11 hearing about them being told to shave their beards and blend in with our culture/society.
I remember when my dad used to get
Back in the late 70's and early 80's, my dad worked hard.  He went to school and became a pharmacist in Flushing, Michigan outside of Flint.  I went to school and EVERYONE's parents worked for GM, Chevy, and other car companies.  There was just a handful of students whose parents did not work for a car company.  My mother's side of the family all worked for a car company.  Thank God my cousin, the last one in the family took early retirement 3 weeks before the big financial downhill with the US economy.  My dad used to be so upset.  He went to school for 4 years and became a pharmacist and still got paid less than people who worked for GM with no schooling, all FREE eye exams and glasses, free health care, free cars, free everything.  Boy did it burn my dad up.  We then moved from Michigan to Arizona in 1982.   
Actually if you remember
When McCain was ahead dow went up, when Obama was ahead dow would go down. It was a rollercoaster but we could tell which way the dow would go by who was ahead during the election.

With all the taxes the O plans to raise, most people are pulling their money out of stocks, and many are getting out of things that will raise their taxes. The owner of the Miami Dolphins plans to seel before the O takes office. The O's lack of knowlege of how the economy thrives on lower taxes, smaller government, and creation of jobs is going to be one of his downfallings (but unfortunately the country will suffer because of it).
You see, what you have to remember
that matters, to he!! with the constitution or anything else that may stand in his, or as Ms. Pelosi put it, *our,* way. Just like everything since he announced his candidacy that doesn't sit well with him, just sweep it under the rug and forget about it!
Just Remember
The "alternative plan" that 90% of the Republican Senate caucus voted for contained tax cuts only. No stimulus. Just tax cuts. This "alternative plan" would have cost over $3 trillion in lost revenue over the next decade, without investing one single dollar in economic stimulus.

It's hard to be bipartisan when the other party is insane.
You have to remember.....
he has only been in office for what? 6 weeks = give or take? For me (and undoubtedly millions of others) to see this change in our COBRA this fast is utterly remarkable. I have never seen a president move as fast as he has and cover ground as much as he has in such a short period of time. NO ONE can tell me he isn't "working." He is working his tail off. He talked about cutting all the BS spending in Washington and they have line itemed 2 trillion in savings ALREADY! I BELIEVE we will see some very serious change - some things not so fast, other things incredibly fast. I am impressed with what he has accomplished already after decades of ineffective leadership. I wasn't sold on the stimulus bill.....some of it probably won't be effective, but, we won't know until we see the outcome. I hope for good things.
Anybody else remember this?
I think an airline lost a law suit for adding on a surcharge for double-wide passengers.  They had originally tried to charge for two seats, but then changed it to a surcharge, but still lost a suit.  I don't think I'm making this up, but don't have time to research it right now. 
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, huh? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!