And I have and still do...that has been my biggest debate with them about it. nm
Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Then I would question their belief in - human life....... MSMT
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Debate, lets debate
Honey, I dont know if your problem is Alzheimer's or Parkinson's but I have debated all over this board..I have tried and tried again and again to debate with your cohorts..It starts out okay and then your conservative friends start attacking and it continues through the debate to where then there is no longer a debate. I ask for you to check the archives and you will see this..nothing but personal attacks against me, which then I attacked back..Debate..lets debate..I WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE WITHOUT ATTACKS..Place an issue and lets debate..Who knows..my consciousness might be raised or yours might be..Lets do it,,
OF course they are....that's one of the biggest
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That's the biggest truth - no msg
Forgot about that one - and that was the biggest lie of all
Just because people love Gore doesn't make him right. Just cos he wrote a book and bought himself a Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean anything (except he's got a lot of money), and guess where he gets that from. That big ol fat lie he lays on everyone how only people create global warming. By the way do you ever notice its only Americans. So he pours all these phony "carbon credits", which of course benefits his company and he gets money from that. The guy has got one fail proof scheme going. Of course he won't give up any of gas guzzling SUV's, buses, private planes, etc. He won't give up anything he's telling other people they need to give up. Wonder how much electricity and energy it takes to heat his mansion, yet people like me in my 2 bedroom apartment are suppose to cut back more (so he can go on enjoying the good life). Oh Gosh, sorry, did not mean to go off about Algore. The guy is the biggest liar and phony. Now I know where Obama/Bidens thinking lies.
The fact of the matter is that Palin was correct last night. She said people do contribute, however, it is also part of the climate. People need to start ignore Algore and all of his infinite wisdom (NOT) and start listening to the people who have been studying this for years. The people who are not benefitting from spewing absolute garbage and making a profit off of it.
This is one of the biggest reasons
I'm not voting for him. I understand we cannot do away with abortion completely (as much as I wish we could) but to just have open season on killing babies? Whew.
I'm telling you, next we will be aborting the elderly! Anyone of inconvenience will be getting a needle in the head!
She is the biggest fake there is. She truly looks
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One of the biggest benefits of my job is
that I don't have far to drive to get to work!
And that is one of my biggest problems, unfortunately....sm
In my case, I take 20 (yes 20) meds to keep going; I have horrible autoimmune diseases. But you know what? I would rather take them and keep working, keep learning, and set an example for my kids NOT TO GIVE UP rather than go an file for SSDI/disability; I was told I could probably get it easily eough, but I get a pride and sense of accomplishment and worth from my work that is GOOD for me, and as long as I can satisfy my bosses, I will keep working, God willing. People who are healthy do not understand needing so many meds and doctors and tests, and even with insurance what the co-pays add up to.....THOUSANDS. Bringing up three children is also costly, though absolutely priceless and the best thing I ever did with my life. We are at a point in economic history where it has NEVER been more expensive to feed, clothe, house, give medial/dental care to, and help with education for children....and I am not crying, whining, or looking for a martydom medal. Just trying my ultimate best each day, and thought the wage thing MIGHT be one of many solutions, what we have been doing in the past HAS NOT WORKED for so many reasons. Anyway, I truly hope you personally are doing much, much better these days, it takes time and faith, but life CAN get better...all the best to you!!
That's the biggest pile of hogwash I ever saw!
I'm a libertarian but I have a lot of friends in both right and left. I never heard any of them say things like this. Absurd!
I have determined that liberals are the biggest
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In my opinion, the biggest problem in
Washington is the Lobbyists. We need to get rid of them. They are not there for the American people, they are there for their own interests - the companies that they do work for. Both sides have them - I know Biden's son was one and McCain has what, 7 of them on his team. So it is a bipartisan problem.
I don't believe Universal healthcare is the only answer, but I do believe some sort of a plan would be beneficial. I have friends that live in different parts of the world, Sweden, France, and England - they have healthcare plans and they are a lot better than anything I get with my insurance. They may pay more in taxes, but by my calculations it is what I would be paying in premiums and deductibles anyway.
This was one of Hillary's biggest donors...
a friend of hers, an advisor to her campaign. You are right...this is a BIG deal.
DOW up over 900 points....biggest gain
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Talk about the biggest of hyocrites . . .
here is a woman who used her power for personal and financial gain . . . is little more than a media prostitute (and that is fact) . . .who declares country first, yet whose husband (and she as well) have supported a group of secessionists that want nothing to do with this country (talk about elitist). . . who claims to be this God-fearing woman, while simultaneously spewing nothing but hate. It is nothing but laughable. I would love to see Alaska secede from the US --- How long ldo you think it would take for it to be taken over by their neighbor, Russia? HA!
My biggest concern is how many illegals are
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Rush is the biggest hypocrite EVER
I so agree with you He is such a hypocrite! He can't practice what he preaches. Don't go quoting him on here like he is a reasonable person.
Not only a hypocrite, but a criminal. He took drugs that were not prescribed for him. But if anyone he didn't like did that, he would do a slow roast of their character.
He's a liar and a hypocrite, not the voice of reason.
My biggest problem with religion
is this....what makes me right and so many wrong. It often makes me wonder if all religions aren't based on the same "God" because so many stories in their "holy books" are similar, etc. I just wonder if people broke up and interpreted things differently and took one belief and transformed it into several religions under different names. Did that make sense?
Wouldn't it just blow your mind if we are all sitting around and arguing about whose religion has it right when they all stem from the "god"? Hmmm....makes you think or at least it makes me think.
Oh, I know. Al Gore is the biggest phony
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This is the biggest bunch of bunk and lies
I've ever read. It's just hilarious how far people will go to try and discredit the very successful Limbaugh. Predictable drivel from the liberal press.
Biggest FLIP FLOP of all time...sm
So does Bush think there should be an exit strategy or not?
He's a joke!
My biggest problem with the 'pubs is you guys ain't
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Haha! It always seems the people with the biggest flag-
That is the biggest load of crock I have ever heard
I have heard a lot in the 8 years that Bush was in office. I am a proud Liberal and for the record, we don't "promote" abortion, we believe in a woman's right to make her own choice about her reproductive rights. No one is "pro-abortion!" 
No, the biggest charlatan has been the outgoing President and his administration..
Good thing Obama has a tough hide - the names people have called him could leave another man weeping- yikes! The biggest charlatans have been the ones elected to run this country into the ground for the last eight years..who lied time and time again about matters of 'national security', who have continued to send troops to Iraq to fight Georgie Porgie's 'personal vendetta war' people who have blatantly robbed us of our jobs and savings to fatten their personal coffers and those of their buddies...i could go on but it makes me madder than he!! to see these lying criminals who have done these things and hear the garbage cranked out by the media that we are supposed to take as gospel because THEY told us so therefore it must be TRUE...what really stops me in my tracks when people DEFEND GWB as if he didn't KNOW what was happening in his own administration. And guess what? I'm not a dem and not a pub- i'm in the middle and it truly breaks my heart to see what has happened to our country in the last eight years; it's downright digusting and criminal.
My biggest concern is National Security. Obama
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If your biggest concern in life is the Palins, consider yourself blessed. nm
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You "watcher", the biggest purveyor of hate on this board
I don't recall Clinton using taxpayer money for expensive little sex jaunts to ANOTHER COUNTRY!! Duh! I'm sure the good people of South Carolina don't appreciate their stupid hypocrite of a governor, the same governor that wanted to turn down stimulus money for their state, the same governor who also had the gall to to be all self-righteous about Cllinton, the same governor that ignored his own children on Father's Day, lying, deceiving and cheating them. But no, you with your ugly hate-stirring atitude have to turn it around and blame everything on OUR PRESIDENT once again. SMOKESCREEN? YOU SERIOUSLY NEED A THERAPIST!!!
The biggest welfare in US history is the Wall St bailout under the leadership of
in us history
Biden is the biggest fool out there this campaign, wins hands down.nm
Evil constant attacks on Palin are about to bring the biggest backlash
I believe you may have cost yourselves the election with the horrendous extent this was taken to.
Labor Department's report of 533,000 job losses in November — the biggest job loss in 34 years
Getting worse every day.
You do not know how to debate
you are the biggest hypocrite ever. I was debating with you, but just because you didn't like what I said you said I was attacking you.
Again, you're are a sad individual....hateful sad individual.
As far as I see it, there is no debate.
This country has gone to the dogs. We are now just another *invading* country, with no morals, no Constitution, nothing of which to be proud. We have a lying, warring regime taking us down with them, taking our freedoms, spitting on the Constitution, tearing the very fabric of this country, and you see nothing evil about that? That, my fellow American, is what I cannot comprehend. Furthermore, Iraq was not our enemy. The Bush Family MADE him our enemy so that our very DEMOCRACY would be eroded to the point that we won't even recognize by the time he is out of office. And you don't see any EVIL in that? WAKE UP, Smell the coffee, or even the stench that wreaks from this regime.
Debate
One of the biggest problems that we have today is our inability to have intellegent discussions. The previous commenters irrational, over-wrought statements, frought with conspiracy theory, does an excellent job of proving that point. There is plenty of grist for calling those in power to task for their actions and decisions without foaming at the mouth. Oh, how I long for the days of the old boy's club of the congress before the eighties when people of conscience could disagree on substance, still be fast friends and treat their political opposites with respect and decorum. I'm contuinally amazed how the most vocal and extreme ascribe nefarious motives to others. This seems to be, almost exclusively, an affliction of the left. Without this intellectual pollution, we might be able to actually find common ground.
Debate me...
First it was that **we couldn't debate,** now it is ** persecution.** When did I say I was persecuted. I merely said the Crusades have been seen in a negative light for as long as I can remember and suddenly they are being seen in a good light. That's all, kaput, the end. Martyr...don't think so.
I don't know how you can live with such disdain for all liberals and all Arab peoples and have any peace or joy in your life. That is a full-time job, being angry.
debate
Hillary all the way -
No need to debate this...because I see it as the same and you do not....
I listened to AL Franken on Air America quite a few times...that was mild, and it was not a joke. He meant it when he said it. I find that offensive. You do not, probably because Ann Coulter did not say it talking about Democrats. Face it, if Ann Coulter had made the same comment Al Franken did, substituting Democrat names and Democrat for Republican, you would not say Ann Coulter was obviously joking and ignore it. That is what I am talking about...you can see exactly what Ann COulter did wrong, but blow off Al Franken as obviously joking. I just don't get that kind of rationalization, sorry. No offense meant...just don't understand it, and it seems so prevalent on the left side of the house. I mean, I can say Ann Coulter was wrong and that both statements by both people were offensive and wrong. You can agree that what Franken said was tasteless and classless, yet he gets a buy as *obviously joking." I just don't get why you can't just say both were wrong and leave it at that...Coulter has to be worse and Franken gets a buy.
Debate
Once again, this is a subject I feel very strongly about. I applaud anyone who broadens their education by learning a foreign language or learning anything new for that matter.
That being said, I believe that anyone who wishes to immigrate to THIS country should wish to embrace our language, our customs and our way of life, not the other way around. I am speaking here of the illegal INVADERS. I imagine that those who become citizens through legal channels, most likely learn English. I am sick to death of hearing babbling everywhere I go, to the grocery store, to restaurants, everywhere. My ancestors immigrated LEGALLY from Ireland and Germany. The other side of the ancestors were herded up and driven to a reservation like so many cattle. I live next door to the Cherokee Nation and not once have I heard them speaking in their native tongue outside of their Powwows, although they strive to keep the language alive. They don't require a press 1 for Cherokee on every telephone message system.
If this language issue isn't enough, it infuriates me that the Mexicans can come here to OUR country and march in their demonstrations while waving their MEXICAN flag.
Unfortunately, the reason we have to learn THEIR language to commuicate is most likely the majority who enter our country illegally are ignorant in even the most basic education and thus not likely to be able to learn a foreign language i.e. English.
You are correct, if we aren't willing to stand up for the heritage of our country; we may as well learn the language as one day we will most likely be part of Mexico and Spanish will be the official language.
debate is on
per debate commission and Obama. Let's rock.
debate
i will probably watch on cnn. i do not want to miss a word or a fumble/jumble confused silly look on anyone's face. I am my own best commentator and so will listen to the commentators after the debate.... one candidate is really not overly intelligent. i will see how well he was briefed...looking forward to the comedy !
I too think that this debate could have
been more indepth and not just the same old ho hum we have been hearing since the start. Then again, it was only the first debate and hopefully they will get better. We have a right to hear specifics from both candidates. We have a right to see them put on the spot to see how well they handle themselves. I want specific questions directed to each candidate and I was specific answers with details. I don't want just a pleasant little Q&A session of fluff.
On the debate....
I was kinda struck by how Obama kept harping on the 10 billion a day (was it?) spent in Iraq...but talking about more troops to Afghanistan. Three brigades I think he said he would send. Okay. So, we are just going to transfer the 10 billion a day to Afghanistan instead of Iraq. Still going to spend it, just in a different place. I was almost yelling at the TV at McCain...ASK HIM ABOUT THAT. lol.
All kidding aside....what I took away from it was Obama leans heavily on Joe Biden for the foreign policy stuff because he is just out of his element. I thought Obama looked uncomfortable, and I got really tired of the smirk after awhile.
On the other hand...in all fairness, John needs to drop the "Miss Congeniality" line. I was talking to the TV again..."we know, John, we KNOW." lol.
I think what makes Obama dangerous is his world view. I do not say that to be mean....I just don't think he is realistic about it. On the one hand he praises General Petraeus (that he got right), and turns right around and won't own up to the fact that the surge worked (even though O'Reilly got him to admit it). Just goes back to the war was wrong. The country is still divided on that. You can't turn back time...and to lose it now would be wrong. Petraeus DID say Obama's plan for a timetable was wrong. I would think more of him if he would say "okay john, you were wrong about the war, but we're there and can't change that. And I was wrong about the surge." I know...dream on...lol.
It was a little alarming to me, facing what we are facing with this "rescue" bill, he STILL talked about spending bazillion dollars. He would not, when pressed, name ONE thing he would put on hold. That just makes NO sense to me, with the "rescue" bill, the deficit, owing money to China yada yada....and wants to fund that stuff with stiff taxes for business...in a down economy. Sorry, I think that's NUTS. Sorry....that also tells me he is either not real smart, or trying to get the vote of people who can't see past "he is going to lower my taxes and give me free health care." I really don't think he is not really smart, so if he gets selected he will be saying "I wanted to do these things, but the economy won't let me."
I have heard people talk all morning (on the Dem side) about how he mentioned the middle class and John McCain didn't. Frankly, the way it appeared to me, was Obama was pandering to the have nots and McCain is not going to promise something he knows he couldn't deliver in the economic situation we find ourselves in. I thought it was kinda patronizing actually. McCain understands that small businesses and yes, nasty corporations, drive this economy and employ a huge number of Americans. In an economic downturn higher taxes on businesses does not work.
Another thing I think McCain should have JUMPED on is that Obama supports the Hank Paulson rescue plan endorsed by Bush and John McCain doesn't like it as it stands. Obama is siding with BUSH! Oh well....lol.
in this debate
the results would be the same no matter who the moderator or modulator or referee or interpretor was.
Debate
After watching the debates I have finally made up my mind. We can not afford to have the angry, unstable John McCain in the White House. He was not only angry, he was sarcastic. My husband and I kept laughing waiting for him to explode. I happen to live in a state that is leaning toward McCain. I notice on the local TV station's forum, 5 people who have been avid McCain supporters have said they changed their mind after watching the debates. It was evident that Obama was angry a couple of times, and I don't blame him but he never lost his "cool."
The race issue is going to play a part in this election but I wonder, has anyone considered that Obama is both black and white? Maybe, just maybe, he could be the one to finally put the race issue to rest. Many blacks will vote for him because he is "black." Many whites will not vote for him because he is "black." Ridiculous. He is equally black and white. Since Lou Dobbs is not running in the first place, he has no chance of being elected. I have decided I will take a chance on Obama. If he turns out to be the worst president in history, well, I'll come back and say I helped elect him. The only real issue I have with him is that of his church affiliation. I noticed that was not brought up in the debate so I can only assume that McCain has investigated that thoroughly and found that there is nothing there that would benefit him.
And as for "Joe the plumber"........I have no doubt that with his notoriaty he will own his own plumbing company but what about my son, "Bill the plumber" who also aspires to own his own plumbing company? My son, "Bill the plumber" has been inclined to vote for McCain but doesn't think either candidate will help him own his own company and neither do I.
I didn't hear anything about "Jane the MT." What about all the MTs who can't find a job? That might be a good talking point.......did anyone notice that Obama wants to reduce medical costs by putting medical records on the internet? Can anyone say bye-bye medical transcriptionists? Of course that is already in the works so really won't make much difference.
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I agree. McCain cannot hide his shifty, deceiving body language. He blinks more often and quicker, and he doodles on paper rather than being comfortable making eye contact with Obama.
No one in this world can perform miracles, per se, but I feel that Obama has integrity and diplomacy and really wants to try and better the multitude of conflicts this nation is under, in a realistic but motivated fashion.
Actually during the last debate
He said "when I am president" quite a few times. Just FYI.
Thanks for the debate, its been fun
I think we both have valid concerns. Here's hoping things turn out better than they are now.
Almost a different debate entirely
This thread was started with no differentiation made between Radical Islam and the more moderate practitioners. Do you believe that evangelical christians are a religion? How about the fundamentalists? I personally consider all of them (radical, evangelical, fundamentalists) to be a religion, albeit one that may not necessarily hold the same values as the broader category they fall under.
Why won't you debate the issue
because you can't back up what you are saying, I assume. You just point fingers and call names like that's winning a debate.
They don't want debate or dissent, although....
that is the biggest cry from the left, that dissent is good. Unfortunately they only tolerate dissent that THEY agree with. I actually find it quite boring to simply say on my own board and preach to the choir. That's what's fun about politics, the debate and the banter. But I see far less tolerance for differing opinions from the liberals in this country even though they claim to be all for choice and dissent and all those other nifty little words they volley about.
There are several topics of debate
that have attempted to be started on the CON board. Unfortunately, no one seems interested in engaging in an intelligent discussion there. Instead, they apparently prefer to come here and vent. I have no idea why you're congratulating me. I don't believe I've chased one LIBERAL away from the LIBERAL BOARD.
And I obviously don't deserve any congratulations for chasing the CON trolls from this board because they've entrenched themselves here and won't leave. Maybe your congratulatory wishes should instead be directed at them.
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