And I guess I'm the sheeple people serpent leader. LOL
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-03
In Reply to: Now I have to be a serpent sheeple..LOL - Just the big bad
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Now I have to be a serpent sheeple..LOL
divided we fall, people; no matter who the leader will be,
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Like the serpent
your bad leader is anothers good leader
There are many bad leaders of countries..It is not our place to invade and take over the countries..Heck, lots of the world think we have a bad leader causing bad things in the world..Would we allow other countries to invade America and take us over cause Bush is a bad murderous leader? We had NO RIGHT to invade Iraq, none whatsoever..and who decides who is a bad leader? Your bad leader is a wonderful leader to another..We need to take care of America..and these hurricanes show that..My mother always told me charity begins at home.
Well....I guess people from
WVA should remember this and vote against him when they get the chance!!!!!
I guess these people have to be added to
the list of liars that includes Pres. Bush don't we....if this was all a BIG LIE then the dems were in on it too LOL
Guess what - those people are Americans too -
they may be down and out, but they still have the right to vote and maybe if McCain would get down and dirty with them they would vote for him? Thought about that?
Guess other people see it too - see message
Wish I had found this link when I submitted the original post.
http://186-kps.com/blog/2008/11/07/obama-ego-the-office-of-president-elect-wtf/
So I guess your okay with insulting special needs people
by calling Bush "retarded". Have you addressed the people on the other side to ask them to stop calling Bush retarded because of the lack of compassion for the people who really are special needs. My best friends brother was born with mental retardation (yes I know they use another word nowadays) but he gets offended when he hears people calling Bush retarded. But I guess your okay with that. Only on your side do you want it stopped.
You said it alright, there is ignorance in some posters.
I am not offended by any of it. You want to call Bush retarded fine (sure he's one fry short of a happy meal), you want to call people kool-aid drinkers that's fine too because they are. But you don't see me up here asking people to please stop and be nice to only one specific side.
The Jonestown tragedy (and yes it was a tragedy, just like Waco and Heavens gate and all these other cults), and I have great compassion. But that happened in 1978 - 30 years ago. Would be nice if you could use some other excuse to not want to hear people being told they are drinking the kool-aid.
By the way "drinking the kool-aid is not just specific to Jonestown. The saying "Do not drink the kool-aid" does, but the phrase "Having drunk the kool-aid" or "kool-aid drinkers" also means being a strong believer in a particular philosophy or mission - wholeheartedly or blindly believing in its virtues.
From Wikipedia - The expression also refers to the activities of the Merry Pranksters, a group of people associated with novelist Ken Kesey who, in the early 1960s, traveled around the United States and held events called "Acid Tests", where LSD-laced Kool-Aid was passed out to the public (LSD was legal in the U.S. until 1966). Those who drank the "Kool-Aid" passed the "Acid Test". "Drinking the Kool-Aid" in that context meant accepting the LSD drug culture, and the Pranksters' "turned on" point of view. These events were described in Tom Wolfe's 1968 classic "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test". However the expression is never used figuratively in the book, but only literally.
I do have to laugh at your last paragraph because you must realize that I too find myself "fortunate not to come into personal contact with people such as yourself" (whatever that means), but if it means you don't want to know me personally then I'd just say I feel the same way.
Compassion goes both ways.
My last suggestion then if you want to continue coming would be just to skip over the posts you don't like. I do that a lot and it saves on the frustrations. There are people of all cultures that come to this board and speak their minds (on both sides). Both sides insult the others and that's just the way life goes.
Knew such smart people here could just get by with (sp?) and guess what?
it worked.
So I guess people's death bed wishes are obsolete once they die? sm
You are really sounding very disgusting tonight. I hope you are not really this evil in your daily life. God help your family members if you are.
re sheeple
When I saw the "sheeple," I naturally thought about Savage's soundbyte when referring to all of us basically waiting for the shoe to drop. He's used sheeple for years, and now he puts the sheep noise with it. While it's horrible in reality, it's funny to hear on the radio.
This is a huge mess. Bush actually tried to get this thing under control 14 (I believe that's the # I've heard repeatedly now) since 2001. That I believe. But this latest move about the bailout is just nuts, regardless of whose mouth it comes from. The perception that Wall St. is a bunch of Republicans is actually false. I do care, but also don't. Both parties have spent a ton too much. That's why the Rs lost elections in 2006, and rightly so. But now the Dems deserve the same thing.
I'll never understand when people, regardless of side, allow their party to go unchecked or WORSE YET, unpunished. Y'all, we don't have that kind of $ to bail out any politician(s) for this crap! Have you noticed that neither party will ever allow term limits to be voted for? Gee, I wonder why... Also, 8 years with any prez is beginning to be too much. It's inevitable that the news becomes stale, the homeymoon is long over, etc. I think 6 would be more realistic for all involved. For some reason "they" never ask me! All joking aside, when voting in Nov., I so hope Americans will punish everyone who's spent like drunken sailors. That should just about clean out, what, 75% of the Hill?
Giving an R or D a free pass is no different than building a home with only 3 sides or no roof.
Thanks for the vent.
From this sheeple s/m
I'll start worrying about one old woman about the time they start deporting ALL the millions of other illegals in this country. Is it barely possible that maybe Obama isn't that close to his Kenya relatives? I guess not, that wouldn't fit in so well with Obama being a terrorist. I may be a "sheeple" but I sure as heck am not a witch hunter!
sheeple
While I was out driving in my car....er...pickup truck awhile ago I was thinking: Okay, I got this image of a sheeple being 1/2 sheep, 1/2 people. Then I got to wondering which end represents the "people" half. Maybe that half is the a$$ end of a sheep.
This Sheeple is awake. s/m
Socialism..........what do you think is going on right now? Oh yeah, I know.......dubya says it's only "temporary."
This sheeple will party on down!
 Hey guess what....the term *tribe* was used as a reference to survivor...not a racial slur unless you're looking for it...
I think I'm a gourdpainter sheeple
Aww, boy wonder's sheeple get their panties in a wad when he is criticized...
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Sheeple, wake up or put your socialist hats on!
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This should be mandatory Obama sheeple reading...nm
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If f the Hufpo, MSNBC, Daily Kos bathrobe pundit sheeple
did they manage to pull off the 7.2% margin/192 electoral vote mandate in Nov and what does that that say about all you Bush babblers who couldn't figure out how to outsmart them?
WHAT A LEADER!!!!
Did New Orleans Catastrophe Have to Happen? 'Times-Picayune' Had Repeatedly Raised Federal Spending Issues
Even though Hurricane Katrina has moved well north of the city, the waters may still keep rising in New Orleans. That's because Lake Pontchartrain continues to pour through a two-block-long break in the main levee, near the city's 17th Street Canal. With much of the Crescent City some 10 feet below sea level, the rising tide may not stop until it's level with the massive lake.
New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.
Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.
Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.
Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: No one can say they didn't see it coming. ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation.
In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.
The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs.
There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:
That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount. But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said.
The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it's too late.
One project that a contractor had been racing to finish this summer: a bridge and levee job right at the 17th Street Canal, site of the main breach on Monday.
The Newhouse News Service article published Tuesday night observed, The Louisiana congressional delegation urged Congress earlier this year to dedicate a stream of federal money to Louisiana's coast, only to be opposed by the White House. ... In its budget, the Bush administration proposed a significant reduction in funding for southeast Louisiana's chief hurricane protection project. Bush proposed $10.4 million, a sixth of what local officials say they need.
Local officials are now saying, the article reported, that had Washington heeded their warnings about the dire need for hurricane protection, including building up levees and repairing barrier islands, the damage might not have been nearly as bad as it turned out to be.
By Will Bunch
Philadelphia Daily News.
AND THIS IS MY OWN TAKE, THE REASON PEOPLE ARE DYING BY THE MINUTE, NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO SANITATION, NO COMMUNICATIONS - IT IS ALL WRAPPED UP A WORLD AWAY IN IRAQ. THERE IS STILL ONLY ONE ROAD INTO NEW ORLEANS, THE REST HAVE TO COME BY CHOPPER, BUT BOAT. BUT WHERE ARE OUR CHOPPERS, MANPOWER AND BOATS? THEY ARE OVER IN IRAQ WHEN WE NEED THEM HERE, YESTERDAY. DID YALL CATCH THE STUPID SOB BEING INTERVIEWED BY DIANE SAWYER ON GMA? HE SAYS ALL LOOTERS SHOULD BE DEALT WITH AGGRESSIVELY. IN MY OPINION THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOOTERS WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND A BOTTLE OF LIQUID, OR FOOD, THAN THOSE WHO ARE LOOTING GUNS AND JEWELRY. HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH AN IDIOT? IS HOPE IN SITE?
Fox was the leader with
pushing the Rev garbage and trying to drum up the Ayres story. They are devoted to destroying his candidacy. I have seen them throw slurs at him in just mentioning where he was campaigning in a day -- little asides. They did that story about Obama throwing flags in the garbage. I don't believe any non-republican should appear on their network. I believe they have a right to do whatever they want on that station, but don't lie and say they are impartial. I believe that people who like that kind of stuff (The Factor and Ann Coulter) should be able to watch it; just don't go spreading the distortions as truth. Palin is not answering to any journalists. If she is qualified she can handle Chris Mathews just like every other politician. Everyone has to go on Meet the Press - people want to see her speak.
I think Andrea Mitchell is a repub - I'm not sure - but she would definitely give Sp a fair shake with fair questions.
I would not say that O is a non-leader
but I think it is time for some action, especially in the Gaza Strip. Saturday Israel was again massacering Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
This instead of accepting a 2-state solution Netanyahu agreed a couple of days ago!
Leader?
Of course he's no leader, he's a follower. Look at all the low lifes he was hanging out with, sitting in church with... please!! This guy is a joke.
He has never had 1 executive job in his life.... never!!!
You're right...anyone thinking he's a leader is definitely dreaming!
He knows nothing about executive decision making...AT ALL!
what do you call a leader
who keeps proposing things -- put off convention, put off debates -- and everyone just ignores him and goes about their business. Not much of a leader.
what do you call a leader....
who puts his interests above those of the country?
I was a leader in the Army
Serving in the Army, I know what it is like to be a leader. It not something you learn overnight and doesn't come automatically. It takes years to become a good leader and your actions determine whether or not you are one. A leader exhibits certain qualities (confidence, self-discipline, and intelligence to name a couple). To be a good leader you must listen to many. Communicate with your peers for advice to make the best informed decision. You need to back your people up. You need to stick by them and stick up for them. You need to treat them with respect. You need to be the first to put your foot down on enemy territory and the last to take your foot off. You need to have a vision and see the big picture. You need to communicate effectively and find common ground to work together. You need to be able to motivate and inspire, and most importantly hold yourself to the highest of standards. And you never ever quit. Quitting is not an option. I could probably go on at length about being a leader.
The post above has nothing to do with being a leader. Putting off a debate in the times that we are going through so that you can go back to Washington to do your job and help to fix the problem is the responsible thing to do, which goes to show again that Sen. John McCain is a truly responsible leader. He is putting the American people before his own self interest. This crisis must be resolved before anything further can go on. How do you expect to tackle any of the other issues if we can't even get our own country back on track.
Sen John McCain is a true leader. He is telling us it should not fall upon us to bail out the execs while they walk away with millions, and he is the first to put his campaigning on hold to do this. This is the same courage he showed when he was in a POW camp and would not leave before the other soldiers in the camp. Sen. McCain stands up for what is right and will not quit until a solution has been set. He and Gov. Sarah Palin have proven they are not afraid to go against the "good ol boys", while Sen Obama goes along with the good ol boys. If Sen Obama would let the people know that the money he received as a kickback from FMFM he would be paying back would give me a little more confidence that he does care about the people, but Obama, Dodd, Kerry and others (and yes some republicans) are not about to hand back any of the money.
Sen Obama is a smooth talker and that is about all. He tells you what you want to hear but he does not follow through. He is just one more politician giving us a line of hooey thinking he has us fooled (obvious he does have some fooled) but luckily others see through him.
Also, not sure what TV station you watched but Sen McCain did not put off the convention. It went on just as it planned to exactly the dates it was supposed to. Just like the Democratic convention.
What I want is a leader who understands
Palin flunks that test on multiple levels. She does not even have a grip on the duties of the office she is running for...much like Cheney. VPs take over in the event of the death, resignation, or removal of the president. They preside over the senate and break tie votes. They act only as an agent for the president and do not hold any EXECUTIVE powers. They preside over and certify official electoral college vote counts. On some occasions they are called upon by the president for advice, meet with heads of state (God forbid) and attend state functions and funerals. That ALL they do. There is no "flexibility" conferred by the Constitution in this regard, despite her claims to the contrary. She has already shown herself to be interested in MORE than what that office has to offer.
In terms of troopergate, the investigation was not a popularity referendum on the brother-in-law or the trooper she fired for not firing her brother-in-law. Palin clearly had a conflict of interest regarding the outcome of her sister's divorce/custody proceedings. It is customary in the US court system that the outcome of divorces and custody matters are decided in the family civil court system...not at the heavy hand of the governor's office exerting influence and abusing the of power of the office to influence the outcome of the decision. That is what she sought to do when she tried to get her brother-in-law fired....influence the custody decision. She sought to bypass the legal system and take matters into her own hands. That, my dear, is abuse of power. Laws apply to all of us all the time....not just when they suit us, and Palin showed complete disregard for the system and for the people who voted her into office when she decided to assume the role of judge, jury and executioner.
Seems like the investigation saw it that way too. This is a character issue that goes straight to the essence of integrity and judgment...Palin flunked, and in view of her previous record, this comes as no big surprise. It was not the first time she abused her position and if elected, it will not be the last.
And a leader who is actually not intimidated when
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Another outstanding leader of the GOP!
South Carolina GOP activist and former chairman of the state elections commission Rusty DePass has apologized for saying a gorilla that escaped from a zoo was an "ancestor" of Michelle Obama.
The controversy started when FITSNews, a local politics Website, obtained a screengrab of DePass's comment on Facebook.
After an aide to state Attorney General Henry McMaster detailed the escape of the gorilla from Columbia's Riverbanks Zoo, DePass responded with a comment: "I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."
DePass later admitted to WIS News that he was referring to Michelle Obama and said, "I am as sorry as I can be if I offended anyone. The comment was clearly in jest."
DePass, who was a county co-chair for Rudy Giuliani's 2008 campaign, supported the push to impeach President Bill Clinton in the late 90s, writing in an op-ed for The State, "Do Republicans have higher moral standards than Democrats?"
Agree also. He is a leader who wants everyone to
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So sad..we need a foreign leader to help our poor
Venezuelan heating oil will be distributed to poor
U.S. communities via the
Venezuelan-owned oil company Citgo.
Credit: Venezuelanalysis.com
<http://Venezuelanalysis.com>
Caracas, Venezuela, November 18, 2005—The
Venezuelan-owned and
U.S.-basedfuel refiner and distributor Citgo will
begin distributing discounted heating oil to poor U.S.
communities next week. Rafael Ramirez, Venezuela's
Minister of Energy and Petroleum, made the
announcement yesterday, saying that the measure is
meant to show Venezuela's commitment to disadvantaged
sectors in the United States.
Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez had originally
announced the measure last August, while the U.S.
civil rights activist Jesse Jackson was visiting
Venezuela.
The launch of the discounted heating oil program is
meant to coincide with the Thanksgiving holiday and
will benefit communities in poor communities of
Boston, Massachusetts and of the Bronx, New York.
The first phase of the program will begin in Boston
and will provide 4.5million liters (1.2 million
gallons) of heating oil at discounted rates, which
will mean a savings of approximately $10 million.
According to the Venezuelan government, the discounts
will be achieved by eliminating middle-men and
having Citgo deliver the heating oil directly to the
communities.
Accordingly, the plan does not involve any losses to
Citgo itself.
The logistics of the plan will involve non-profit
community organizations, which will help with the
selection of beneficiaries, distribution, and billing.
Heating oil costs are expected to reach historical
heights this year, which means that many poor
households might have to go without heat, despite
limited state programs to subsidize heating oil for
low-income
families.
Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's
state-owned oil company PDVSA and operates five
refineries and licenses 14,000 gas stations throughout
the U.S.
A great leader, they must be joking. sm
He is considered by most to be a dictator. I am sure his 20 supporters on Republican board will not agree with me.
Spoken like a true leader...nm
YOU NAILED it, mostly but bush is NO leader
he is a puppet put in place by the powers that TRULY run the country - and he is merely advancing U.S. imperalist foreign policies.
THE COMMENTS HE MADE WERE DONE ON PURPOSE: He was putting the world on notice of our (US) intents.
When RICE says "Iran is an obstacle to US goals" the translation is this: IRAN IS IN THE WAY OF U.S. HEGEMONY.
If Americans don't wake up soon to what THEY ARE PAYIN FOR WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS they are going to be paying the price for tolerating a corrupt goverment that will be checked by other major powers (like China), to who?whom? we are the MOST indebted.
In the words of our fealess leader.
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Because he's a leader, not a follower, he has brains,
he is his own man. That is why, no matter how loud you scream and how indignantly you protest, people are simply tuning out on this negative sludge. We want to see McCain develop some backbone, drop the school yead bully routine and talk about some issues. It's not too much to ask, just 3 weeks shy of the election.
Doesn't make him my leader.....
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Sounds like a cult leader.
No votes for this man from me. He is up to no good.
Begs the question. How much of a leader can he be if
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No. He looked very insecure. He is the leader of the
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Please - Rush is NOT a leader of the pubs!!!
At least not in my opinion and many others that I've talked to and chatted with on here. He's a voice, but only one of many, just like the dems have Pelosi and Olberman and Charles "Americans don't care about the pork" Schumer. So please stop with the whole Rush is our leader and we blindly follow.
That's because Obama is an intelligent leader (for a
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Obama is a smooth talker, not a leader.
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No, I equate him with a false teacher/leader
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Look to the leader of USA for past 8 years GW BUSH nm
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Where? Who? Our country has no real leader at the moment.
Not Bush.
Not Obama.
Nobody.
Nada.
Zilch.
Oh, wait, maybe Pelosi...she's got a lock on the purse strings...yours and mine, although you don't know or care......ugh....
Like I said, no real leader anywhere in sight.
Least you forget.......obama is your glorious leader
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Obama Wimps Out With Chinese Leader
What didn't he mention in his meeting?
1. China's outrageous increase in human rights violations. (Hillary forgot about this also, though.) Umm, I thought this was supposed to be the liberals' big beef with China.
2. China's recent call for a new "world currency" to replace the dollar.
3. China's recent criticism of massive increases in US debt.
4. China's recent military moves, including confrontation with US warships in international waters or massive buildup of forces across from Taiwan, increases in military spending, etc.
No, no. None of that! Just "Let's get together for a kumbaya party, Comrade. I'm having a new Party Worker's suit made out of taxpayer skin that'll knock your eye out!"
Sorry - we didn't elect him to bow to the leader of another country
If he's an american citizen he should not be bowing to the Saudi leader, or the Queen. He doesn't bow to G. Brown, or the leader of France, Italy, or any of those other country. You bow to someone if you are a servant to them.
He is not doing what we elected him to do and we certainly didn't elect him to bow. I feel sorry for you.
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