And I gather that's what you're hoping to happen because you hate Obama.
Posted By: OMG on 2009-05-01
In Reply to: Yeah, well, unfortunately, with Obama in office, - Al Qaeda and Taliban just might win!. nm
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I hate to see this happen for so
many reasons. My whole family will suffer for this because we all are connected to GM in one way or another.
It is truly sad for the people who worked 30+ years and could possibly lose their pensions and health care. It is truly sad for the factory workers who are supporting kids and a wife but may lose their job. It is sad for the people in the dealerships who can't sell enough vehicles to stay afloat and all those people are out of jobs. I really do not want to see GM file bankruptcy, but we can't have them continually getting money from the government. For one, the government can't afford it. For two, it isn't going to help because the economy still stinks and people still aren't buying vehicles.
They just need to file and restructure things. I do really feel bad for everyone that will be hurt by this though. Like I said, I have many family members who depend on their job/pension/health care through GM. It is truly terrifying to think what may come our way when they do file, but for the country.....it is the right thing to do.
No, here's hoping Obama will undue the...sm
Damage the Bush admin. has done in cutting funding and throwing up roadblocks to anything that doesn't support their "abstinence only" idealogy - which has been a stunning failure though you'll never hear them admit it.
You won't vote for Obama because he's so liberal. I'll vote for him precisely because he is.
Yes, I am just hoping that Obama wont end up the
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster.
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster
See I too can keep repeating like you.
I bet no one is reporting the Oprah book clubs that gather
every week.
This is an attack against a Christian group, plain and simple. Once the Christians are sufficiently quieted, they will move on to the next group that threatens the reign of the government.
Should I report the Mormons down the street who gather every week?
Or what about the girl scout leader who has sleep overs all the time and meetings at her house once a week? And they sell cookies! That should definitely be considered a business!
Anyone trying to twist this around to building codes really needs to pull the wool off of their eyes. It's infringement on our rights, plain and simple.
Big brother is starting to look over EVERYONE'S shoulder. All of you who make excuses for it now, please remember this when they start infringing on your rights.
I wonder how long it will take before they stop letting returning soldiers gather together? Since they are also on the list of suspected domestic terrorists...
Oh and I remember how much the Jewish community down the street from where I grew up loved to get together on a weekly basis to socialize, eat, etc., wonder when they will be stopped?
I wonder how long it will take before we all have to sit at home with our thumbs up our butts before enough citizens get their heads out of the sand and tell government that enough is enough!
You're right but O supporters just hate anyone
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Do you know what will happen if Obama is elected as prez? sm
It will be an Obamanation! Or an abomination..You choose.
Actually, I don't hate Obama....I just don't want him...
to be President, because I think it is wrong for the country. That is the great thing about America...we can all have our opinions. You can say Obama's "former" pastor if you like. I don't think on a personal level Obama has changed his feelings toward Wright or the doctrine of his church. He went there for 20 years. The man married he and his wife and baptized both of his children. He called him mentor. He wants to get elected so he publically distanced himself. I don't say that because I hate Obama. I say that because that is my impression of his actions. Frankly, I would have thought more of him if he would just have been honest about it. But he wants the job.
Haggee is not McCain's pastor and never has been. McCain has been going to North Phoenix Baptist Church for 15 years and his pastor is neither of these men. Parsley is a friend from what I understand, but neither of these men are McCain's pastor and he did not have a relationship with them like Obama had with Wright. Haggee just came out and endorsed McCain, and when McCain heard the comments he rejected the endorsement, just like Obama rejected Wright. So I suppose they are even on that score. McCain never took "advice" from Haggee, that I can find evidence of. Haggee simply publically endorsed him.
I do have some good things to say about McCain. He is third generation military and both his sons are in the military; one is in Iraq as we speak. He is a decorated war hero. His family has a history of service to this country. I believe that is a very good thing in these dangerous times. He had some issues in his personal life as a young man, did things he is ashamed of...but so did Obama. McCain cheated on his first wife and Obama did drugs and drank as a teenager. Both have been honest about that.
I also think we as Americans need to get over the blame game. Oil companies are not responsible for the mess we are in, neither are CEOs and millionaires (of which both Obama and McCain are). Yes, there have been some crooked CEOs. But you never hear about the thousands of other CEOs in the country who are NOT crooked and people act like they don't care about those other thousands. Just lump all CEOs together and say they are corrupt. Is that really fair?
Are all millionaires really to blame? The Bill Gates Foundation gives millions every year to charitable causes. So do many other millionaires. The so-called millionaries, big boys and CEOs also pay 90% of the taxes in this country already. Don't you think that is enough? If the Democrats keep on like they are, taxing American businesses into oblivion, businesses will fail, people will lose jobs and jobs will continue to go overseas. When it gets too expensive to operate in this country because of ridiculous taxes, if a business is to survive it has no choice but to offshore. That just makes economic sense. Instead of "taxing the rich" so much and driving businesses and employment offshore, they need to incentivize them to stay here. Oh...I guess that makes too much sense.
I would hate to see Obama win
when he hardly has any experience at all himself and has associations with terrorists. Does it not bother you people that dictators WANT Obama to be our president? Does that not concern you? A man who says there are 57 states. You keep harping on McCain being old and SP being a "hearbeat" away from the presidency but don't you think that there is a greater risk of an assassination attempt on Barrack Obama being that he would be the first African-American pres and there are some crazy bigots out there who would refuse to let that happen. What then....you want Joe Biden in office.....a man who said Roosevelt was the president at the beginning of the great depression and warned people on TV when Roosevelt wasn't the pres at the beginning of the great depression and there was no TV back then. That makes me feel all warm and cozy too.
I don't hate Obama.....sm
But in case you haven't noticed (which obviously you haven't), your boy Obama is the fear monger lately.
He's very inexperienced, and it shows day by day.
By all means, keep on counting down with the others. It will all become clearer as the days go on.
Why do you hate anyone who disagrees with Obama...
and/or supports McCain? Why IS that? Why does he inspire that kind of vitriol? I am an American, just like you, I can have an opinion...I don't attack you and call you names...I don't make up cutesy little terms like McBush...I am just an AMerican, just like you, who has every right to support the candidate of MY choice. You act as if I have no right to do that, and if I do, I am your enemy. Read your words. WHY do you react that way? Do you honestly think I am your enemy??
why are you mentioning Obama - why do you hate him so much...
you have an answer for everything, and everything you do is great. good for you. I find your lack of compassion rather disturbing. you sound so cynical. I never mentioned if I am a dem or repub, but the more I hear from repubs the more turned off I am.
anytime anyone comes on here with a differing opinion other than follow the herd blindly people like you try to bully them.
this is my last post - you may have the last word.
I don't hate Barack Obama. I just don't want...
the Unites Socialist States of America, and he does. He and I fundamentally disagree on denying medical care to infants surviving abortion. I don't trust someone who has the kinds of associations he has...I think it speaks to an agenda that I don't think is healthy for America.
That being said, if John McCain was a socialist and championed infanticide and the worst thing I could find about Obama is that he cheated on his wife umpteen years ago, I would be voting for Obama. It is not the man, it is the ISSUES, MT Pockets...the ISSUES, and what I (I cannot speak for others) want for ourselves and our country, just like you do.
I don't "love" John McCain. I do admire his service and what he went through for this country. I do believe he loves his country. I can't truthfully say I believe he same for Barack Obama. Even that is no reason to hate him; he is entitled to have his opinion of America. I don't hate him.
Obama has friends who both hate the country and
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Not coming out with hate against Obama on this board? Are you serious!?
there's hate all over this board, whether it is because he is black, whether because people believe the anti-Obama stuff, or because he is a LIBERAL, oooohhh, bad boy liberal. As for Sarah Palin, I don't hate her, I don't know her. All I know is that she is a very poor pick for VP especially for a man who is 72. She has no credentials to do the President's job. Oooo, but Obama has no experience.... Well, he has been all over the world, has met with different heads of state, has been fully vetted, has lived a life that he knows different kinds/types of people, and he is very intelligent. In all honesty, Sarah Palin does not answer one question with the intelligence that satisfies me, and she dances all around the questions she does not know how to answer. If she isn't coached, she doesn't do very well. When she is coached, that is her pat answer for the entire episode of questioning. Not very smart, not good for America, McCain did not put Country First, he put McCain First. All a political ploy, and the right fell for it hook, line and sinker.
How about the hate spewed at Obama's rallies?
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What if Obama didn't hate people like me? (sm)
I like Obama as a speaker, I think Obama is very intelligent and educated. I think Obama is very attractive. I like a lot of the ideas he has. I just cannot skirt around the issue of those he has associated with and the church he attended for 20 YEARS! I find it hard to believe he is not racist against me, a plain old white citizen. I think it doesn't matter that I have friends of all races, and that I love someone of another race. All that matters to his minister is that I am white and that makes him hate me, and if Obama didn't also hate me, and those like me, then why did he continue to attend that church and listen to the acid spewing from his minister's mouth for 20 years? While I think it is horrible that our ancestors forced African's into slavery and treated them horribly, I didn't do it! I would never do it! I love everyone! Why do I have to be a victim of prejudice now, just because I am white? Why can't prejudice not exist either way?
I dont hate Obama, but he seems like a phony.
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Obama Haters will hate this post.
Remember Rush I-hope-he-fails Limbaugh?
All they want is fodder to support their ridiculous claims. They don't want to hear that he is actually succeeding better than expected.
That would explain why you slam Obama, hate Clinton
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People sucking lemons hate Obama.
Guess what...reality has already hit. Barack Obama was elected President of the United States, and he has already begun to undo some of the damage done by Georgie Porgie.
I hear there is a sale on lemons and sour grapes that you might be interested in!
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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You bet!! I was SO hoping it would go this way....
she is PERFECT.
Here's hoping
he does not get angry with her in public and call her the "C" word like he called his wife. He is well-known for explosive temper, we must remember.
You could be right, but I am hoping there is not that many demented sm
people out there. I would rather think someone is fixing the numbers up than think we have that many Americans who are haters.
I'm hoping too. Very exciting.
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I'm hoping for Romney
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would much rather see action that hoping a
action speaks louder than words, they say
Well....I'm hoping others thing so too
so McCain gets more undecided votes. LOL! I do believe he is a racist though....no doubt in my mind.
Here's hoping you will find your way
fear and dark foreboding. It does not sound like a very happy place. While erring on the side that change can be good, you may be in for a pleasant surprise.
They are hoping we are stupid....
and THAT's their vision of HOPE.
Hip hop, hip hop, tax cuts to the wealthy way on top, big corps are our friends, forget about the citizens. Yeah, we beat our chest and boast fake tans, cuz we want all the money, screw the little man. So what if we're on the take, let them eat cake. Drivin' my Benz, collectin' big dividends. We hate the poor, shove 'em out the door. No healthcare works well, may their bodies bloat and swell, with the dis-ease of the times, hit 'em with big fat fines. We will collect our swag any way we can, just gotta git rid of that magic black man. Hey, HO
Well, I'm not right-wing but you're right, Obama
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You're the one not getting it. Obama doesn't not have to do much of anything
in order to win over a "moderate muslim" because they are by definition open to Western ideas regarding politics and general ideas. They embrace a sort of liberal Islam in sharp contrast to the extremist or fundamentalist muslims who have zero tolerance and believe in and embrace the concept of Jihad against the infidels.
I'm not just talking about muslims who live in the U.S., but muslims around the world. For example, President Karzai of Afghanistan has been deemed a moderate muslim because of his political ideas which is why he fears violence against him from the extremists in his country.
Get it? Obama saying that he wants to "win over" moderate muslims is akin to a MTSO saying they want to "win over" Indian MTs to work with them. It won't be hard and will take very little convincing. Not to mention King Obama is the "world's president." Like I said, he's just posturing of the media. The liberal media loves him and his pretty speeches. Journalists have become babbling idiots since O burst on the scene.
So what you're saying is that what was okay for Bush is now okay for Obama?
What about that change we can believe in and choosing morals over fear, etc, etc.? It was a bad idea in 2000 and it still stinks in 2010 - doesn't matter who's doing it.
I think you're right about him not liking Obama...
but what could his plan be when he keeps making himself look so dumb? Do you think maybe he's trying to make Obama look bad somehow?
Kudo's to you. I was hoping you'd respond
to the tactics of those who try to silence others who don't agree with them.
Mom always told me you don't like the channel change it, you don't have to watch something you don't want to. Same with the posters. If they don't like what you have to say, ignore it and move on.
Life's too short.
Hoping she gets to go back to Alaska
Nov. 4 so that she can keep getting her tans....or therapy for depression, whichever.
Hoping you and Bill M. move there first,
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That's why I'm hoping McCain wins. Then - sm
nobody in America will ever ridicule anybody ever again.
Here's hoping Chicago workers' sit-in and
good things to come. As Bank of America acquires Merrill-Lynch (whose CEO has the utter gall to request a $10 million bonus pay-out after the ML sell-out) they are refusing credit to Republic Windows and Doors out of Chicago after receiving $15 billion in TARP funds. The workers are fighting back to recover the pay and benefits they have already earned and their governor is backing them up. Now that's what I'm talkin' about !
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw5QzWC86Vl8&refer=home
Here's hoping the feds will mobilize appropriate
keep their eyeballs unpeeled on such screwball organizations.
You are right, and I am hoping this may be the natural evolution......sm
of politics in this country. Back in Colonial America, there were the Federalists versus the Rebublican-Democrats, which turned into the "party" system we now have (love your comment about "party!"), big business and big money will always be in bed with the politicians, and that will keep propagating and feeding this political mess, but I have to think if the Libertarian or Independent parties were to have a strong enough candidate with a really well-crafted, timely, imperative platform, we could all vote with our pockets, one voter at at time, to strengthen a three or four-party system over time? Am I just wishing and praying, because I am seeing way too much back-scratching payola going on on BOTH SIDES of the aisles in Congress!
I was hoping to get the shrub out of office...nm
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Wow - I'm shocked. I guess I was hoping, for your
sake, that you weren't "fully grown" yet - it seems that something has gone terribly awry here in the maturation process. Not much more to say.
I'm hoping that some in Congress and the Senate
don't let him blindly lead them down that road. We have a national security force now, the National Guard, but of course, they're stuck fighting for our country since the draft was banned.
We need to get back to draft registration like it used to be, then our military will be good and the Guard can stay home and protect us like they're supposed to be doing.
You're not aware what Biden said about Obama?
There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden. Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words that "Americans are quickly realizing that Barack Obama is not ready to be President." His words. He stood on a stage shoulder to shoulder with Obama and said this very thing at the dem debates.
And, Biden's own words.
"I think he(Obama) can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......
"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."
About Obama's foreign policy he said..
"Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."
On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."
On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."
Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).
I mean, this is why the entire Obama/Biden ticket is such a joke...gotta wonder what is going on. Biden does not care for Obama at all nor his beliefs.
Biden thinks more highly of McCain than Obama and has said so.
Didn't you watch the democratic debates?
You're going to be blasted..you spoke against Obama
sad but true
You're right - Obama does look like a black Dickie.
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