Amazing, huh? Big companies down to individuals

• Distressed Homeowners Get New Options - Backwards typist
  • This says it all.... - sm
  • And we bail out Wall St. who created this mess..... - sm
    • Stop playing the blame game! - Reality Check
      • If they weren't qualified - how did they get the loans? - sm
  • Screw them if they bought more than - sm
    • Good point, I agree with that...nm - van
      • only those who 'overloaned...nm - van
        • Here is responsible lending practices - see inside
    • Granted, there are people who bought more house.....sm - m
      • I too agree with that, however, - sm
        • Not ALL of us! - FL
        • Sadly, common sense and good behavior...........sm - m
          • My comment is to anyone - sm
    • I agree 100% - Veronica
    • Then you were one of the smart ones. - Backwards typist
      • Don't blame it on the lender.... - van
        • YES - BLAME IT ON THE LENDERS! - sm
          • Agree!! My DH knows a couple - truthbetold
            • How can they sign somehing they do not understand?....sm - van
              • Bait and switch............ - sm
          • And people who had no business owning a home jumped in; not - sm
            • Why were LOSERS given the loans? - sm
              • Because....if people cannot keep up with their - van
              • Perhaps they are stupid then... - sm
                • Still don't understand........... - sm
        • I agree SM - No Name
      • Regular people with a subprime mtg - Human not perfect
        • This is exactly what we are talking about.......sm - van
          • No pity - Human not perfect
        • PS - Human not perfect
          • You have my support, Human........ - sm
  • I found something about that on MSNBC also..sm - MT and worn out
    • Keep looking for info. I just heard that - Backwards typist
    • Amazing, huh? Big companies down to individuals - all paid for by the FEW responsible left -sickenin

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if one of your most pressing concerns is that the large corporations are being abused by government, keep reading.  Have you seen news reports on the executives are given huge million dollar bonuses and pensions? A lot of them "earn" them by closing facilities, firing workers, destroying unions, downsizing or removing benefits from workers.  Our benefits go down; corporate execs compensation are sky-rocketing.  The history-making profit of the oil companies this quarter in the billions?  Do they still need more tax breaks?  Sorry, my sympathy and concern for the well-being of these corporations is minimal to none.

 But if you really want to protect the corporations, vote McCain!

do it again and again for the next 2 years because that is how long it is going to take car companies to make a good economy vehicle.  If government bails them out, next will come airlines and so on.  We do not have enough money to bail them out for the next 2 years.  Those companies BURN money each month. 

Do not get me wrong, I do want the American car companies bailed out.  I WILL ONLY OWN AMERICAN MADE CARS.  NEVER will buy a foreign made car so I can help the car companies stay in business.  Geesh, I am from Michigan, born and raised there for 18 years.  Most of my family is from Michigan on my mother and father's side.

If the car companies fold, we could have the Great Depression or close to it.  Shoot, Toyota and Honda, etc., could buy our car companies and now will be foreing made cars only.  It is a mess, chaos mess.  What I do know is most of my family in Michigan blame the American car companies.  My cousin just took early retirement from them 3 weeks before the US financial mess.  Thank God he did.  A 3 car companies had years to design and make cars better than Toyota, but did not.  Some of my family members blame the gas companies for jacking up the price of oil which is what started the car companies to have problems.  If only the oil companies did not raise it to 4.00, our 3 American car companies just might not be in the mess they are in.  So now my family believes it should be the OIL COMPANIES to bail them out since they started the mess with high gas prices.  Family actually do not want the government to bail out car companies because the costs will be from you, me, and the USA and will go on and for the next 2 years.  Family wants them to stop production, think about what to build next and then start building it.  The 3 car companies need to make what consumers want and need. 

It is a mess and horrible.  I personally do not want so many jobs to be lost.  It is such mixed feelings.  I just want new jobs created NOW.  Drill, drill, drill, and create new technology and start building and working by all of us coming together and creating new jobs and what we really need for these new jobs.  Hope this all makes sense, I am really tired from a long night of working. 

I didn't specify who I was talking about when I said there are some people on this board who distort the truth and make things up.  But the ones I see doing that the most are the ones who posted a reply to my observation and were on the defensive when the did. 

that a lot of our "laws" are laws that are also spoken of in the Bible?  Wonder if that is a coincidence?

I've heard that most prisoners "get religion" when the are incarcerated.  I have heard they embrace all kinds of religion including wiccianism (if that's a word).  I don't know if this is true or not but lacking anything better to do at the moment, I think I'll research it as it strikes my interest.

Who said anything about the US being the head of that one-world government?

I have no idea.  I didn't.  I said under the same rule -- not necessarily under US rule.

I don't believe that the US will even exist as we know it by the time the one-world government comes into effect, much less have any power in a one-world government.

One can only hope.

And it is not based on speculation. It is based on the book of Revelation.

Why is it that when someone on this board says anything about relgion having a negative impact on legislation you guys get all upset, but when we look at the future of our government it's supposed to based on a 2000-year-old ghost story?   Why don't we just start looking into crystal balls.

I think this lends a great deal of credance to the theory that this election was engineered from the get-go and Obama was manufactured for this from birth.  Probably the scariest thing is that over half the people in the US will never believe this, even with documentations staring them rignt in the face,  and will just holler "sore losers" even louder than before.

I found this post there interesting:  "Not directly related to the original subject of our thread but the Reverend Joseph Lowery is going to be giving the major benediction at the Obama inauguration. Although the NY Times and Washington Post will not mention it, Lowery was the recipient of a free trip to Lybia courtesy of Muamar Qadafi and Lowery took the trip at a time when Qadafi was openly calling for attacks on America. Lowery’s junket was courtesy of the Lybian dicator who ordered the bombing of a disco in West Germany where American GIs hung out. An African-American was murdered due to Qadafi’s terrorism. And Lowery did not make a peep of protest. I can’t help but wonder why the NY Times won’t touch the issue of Lowery getting a nice goodybag from Qadafi. And Lowery’s comments about Israel and essentially about American Jews are vile. He is like Reverend Wright, albeit with a braver personal life story. But Lowery needs to be exposed for what he is."  But of course,  he is ONLY giving the benediction, so no need for the rabid right to get all bent out of shape about it.  Still, the left hollers about Warren and his biblical stance against homosexual marriage, probably the only  truly biblical stance the man has, but it's a start.

I would say that America has made a huge, huge mistake, but I think Obama would have gotten in even if every voter had voted for Santa Claus on a write in.  We are in big trouble, folks. 

...Barney Frank, who helped orchestrate the whole Fannie/Freddie fiasco, and later denied there was any problem (saying the agencies were were doing a splendid job) is now denying any responsibility.  Now he's saying the republicans caused it because it exploded on Bush's watch.  And now Frank is screaming for government oversight of banks who made *risky loans*  which dem-sponsored policies forced them to make.  It is so machiavelian!  You have to give them points for turning this whole thing to their advantage.  Now under the guise of fixing Bush's mess, they can slip in the whole laundry list of social policy changes they've been panting after for decades.  I am in awe. 

I remember some talk before the elections that younger voters only get their "news" from Jon Stewart and "The Daily Show."  I never agreed with that assessment because in order to "get" Stewart's sometimes subtle comedy, one had to know the real story in advance.

This is the first time I recall watching the "Daily Show" where I didn't laugh very much.  It seems that this IS the one time that Stewart actually did report some pretty important news that no other "mainstream" media source was able to do.

To me, this was probably the most important news story to cover (or try to understand) what happened to the economy.

It's a shame that it took a comedy show to do it!

that would go out of business if the auto industry tanks, not to mention the auto workers themselves (what's left of them).

I don't think it would be a good idea. They stated 3 million people would lose their jobs if they let the industry tank. That would really throw us into a depression.

all 3 didn't  just hit bankruptcy level at the same time.  As a matter-of-fact I seriouisly doubt they are even in a financial crisis.  I think they've been working up to this panic for the past 6-8 years.  Unfortunately your husband and other companies that have supplied the big 3 are going to suffer.  I think this is all a smoke screen and what they REALLY want is to get out from under their union contract.  Do you really think if that happens they are going to lower the costs of their cars?  Nope.  They'll take as many billion as they can wanagle out of Bush and then file BK which will let them out from under their union contract.  Then miracously they'll recover.

As for people and their big Hummers, SUVs, etc.  That is a bit on the "look what I've got" front.  I think those Hummers are undoubtedly the UGLIEST things I've every seen.  I know a couple of people who bought them with payments approaching $1000 a month and they worry how they're going to pay their gass bill.  BOOHOO!!!

Things are going to get rough for all of us.  Even if Obama does what he promised, it probably won't be in his first term.  It will take him that long to undo 8 years of Bush....not to mention Clinton before him and Big Daddy before him.

taken down with them, though. They don't deserve it.

GE stock on Friday was only $.10 a share. So sad. Other stocks are just as bad and some of them were good ones before all this started.

What's the difference who says no?  Some insurance companies pretty much say no to everything but wellness visits - and that's simply so they can find out if you develop a condition, so they can drop your coverage on a threabare excuse, or jack your rates to the moon so you'll have to drop it.  Then no other company has to cover you due to it being preexisting.  I don't want to pay for insurance that only covers me if I'm not sick!

At least if there was universal healthcare, even with a wait, they'd have to treat you eventually instead of NEVER.  And do it for free.

...involved in the transcription of patient notes?

That just doesn't make sense.

(The link to the Hannity & Colmes interview referred to is http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/FetzerHannityColmes200606222.wmv).  I would definitely recommend watching this. 

There are a lot of *coincidences* here, it would seem. 

Regardless of your position on this topic, you cannot help but admit that a major coincidence (at the very least) took place on the morning of June 23, 2006.

It all began on the evening of June 22, 2006, when Hannity & Colmes (on the FOX/RNC Channel) had a guest on by the name of Dr. James H. Fetzer (see endnote). Fetzer is a member of 9/11 Scholars for Truth. Due to some unexpected initial confusion on the part of the hosts regarding their chosen attack theme (they got their facts FOXED, as Fetzer said), Fetzer was given a rare opportunity to answer an open-ended question -- almost without interruption. As the lawyers all say, Never ask a witness any question to which you do not already know the answer.

Colmes asked Fetzer something to the effect, So can you give us one piece of evidence that would tend to point toward 9/11 being an inside job by the Bush Administration?

While Ollie North (who was guest hosting for Hannity) was apparently still lost in confusion, Fetzer had a rare opportunity to speak a few full sentences without hostile, obnoxious interruptions. He said (and I'm paraphrasing here again), I point you to Secretary of Transportation Norman Minetta's testimony before the 9/11 Commission. Minetta said he had encountered Vice President Cheney in a bunker in Washington, DC, at 9:20 AM, on the day of the attacks [forty-three minutes earlier than Cheney said he had arrived]. Every few seconds a young man would come into the room and say, 'Sir, it's 50 miles out. Sir, it's 40 miles out. Sir, it's 30 miles out,' and so on. Finally the young man asked the Vice President, 'Sir, do the orders still stand?' Cheney replied gruffly, 'Of course, the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?'

Fetzer went on to explain that only later did Minetta learn that the young man was referring to Flight 77 approaching Washington, DC, and the orders the young man was referring to were obviously orders NOT to shoot the plane down. That's why the young man had finally asked if the orders still stood, to which Cheney replied that they did. Shortly thereafter, Flight 77 (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) struck the Pentagon.

Obviously, the producers of the Hannity & Colmes Propaganda Hour had not anticipated such a damning bit of irrefutable evidence to escape over their airwaves to their glassy-eyed, drool-chinned audience.

Here's the Real Kicker... The very next morning, less than twelve hours after his 9/11 testimony had been unexpectedly exposed to the FOX faithful, Norman Minetta resigned as Secretary of Transportation.

What an unbelievably amazing coincidence of timing!

Just for the sake of argument, let's say Minetta's timing was truly nothing more than a coincidence. If so, then he couldn't have picked a worse time to announce it (unless it was his relatively subtle way of sending a message to the masses). Or, if he was forced to resign by Bush/Cheney (for whatever reason), they couldn't have picked a more self-incriminating time to make it happen.

There has been barely a peep about Minetta's resignation in the mainstream media. I saw the same, generic, non-informational, totally uncurious five-second clip about it several times, but there has been absolutely no speculation as to why he did it (although his recent back surgery is implied to be the main reason). That's incredibly unusual behavior for our babbling heads, isn't it? Other high-level resignations in the last few months from the Bush Administration were the subject of endless babble among the MSM elite.

A Final Thought I can only imagine the sudden conflicting thoughts of at least five out of every one hundred Fox viewers who had heard Fetzer mention Minetta's damning testimony just a few hours before Minetta resigned. What must they have been thinking for a short time before their self-hypnosis kicked back in?

Click here to download the clip of the four-minute interview (in Windows Media Format). An AVI version is here.

[Note: James H. Fetzer (FM) Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, a former Marine Corps officer, author or editor of more than 20 books, and co-chair of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.]
Source:  http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=consp_911&Number=284742411#Post294752412

what a gift to our country at this tumultous time.