Aha...

Posted By: Observer on 2007-10-03
In Reply to: It common sense - if we can afford one - we can afford the other (kam) nm

common sense---Congress. Common sense---Congress. Never the twain shall meet, until politics and power become secondary to the will of the people. And I mean BOTH sides of the aisle.

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Senate passes Children's Health Plan - Great news imo! (see msg) kam
- Backers of vetoed SCHIP bill say it is - misunderstood. (kam) see msg
  - This does not tell the whole story either... - Observer
    - I want to correct myself on the above... - Observer
- So now with my taxed insuring kids -- I can supervise their lifestyle, eating habits, etc. - Patti
  - To me $1000 health insurance premium is a lot - (sm) kam
    - Cheaper plans -- $107 to $220 - Patti
      - Great solution. Skip healthcare for the parents. - kam (sm)
    - So you are saying... - Observer
      - Yes, I think ALL kids deserve affordable healthcare. - kam (sm)
        Okay....so where does it end? - Observer
        It can end with affordable healthcare for kids. - kam (sm)
        You did not answer the question... - Observer
        Yes I did, and I never said I wanted free... - kam (nm)
        It would be wonderful if it was that simple.... - Observer
        Fair enough, but we need a more immediate - solution to a huge problem (sm) kam
  - You hit the nail on the head...YES! - Observer
    - Addendum to above post... - Observer
- I'm sad but not surprised. Bill was vetoed by Bush. - (sm) kam
  - Wow, that is HARSH...... - Observer
    - We will never agree on this issue. - (sm) kam
      - I sleep very well at night, thank you. - Observer
        I don't care how much the parents make per year... - kam (sm)
        Okay, I finally get it... - Observer
        No, you are not even close to getting it. - kam (nm)
        I am not the only one not close to getting it.... - Observer
        Also, do you acknowledge that the Iraq - war costs more than the healthcare would?
        Not thinking logically....you have room to talk.... - Observer
        It common sense - if we can afford one - we can afford the other (kam) nm
        Aha... - Observer
        Scaring them away? What, you can't hold debate with Republicans? - nm
        No, it is just annoying to me to come here - kam (sm)
        Hope you get to read this, as it is far down - DW
        I agree. - kam (see msg)
        With all due respect, and I am sincere in that.... - Observer
        No point in arguing with you though. So your - comments will be ignored by me from now on (kam)
        I got it...your way or the highway, (sm which I don't suppose I care if you read or not) - Observer
        Just an fyi...I am not a Republican. (nm) - Observer
        Same here, but the poster mentioned Republicans so that's why I - made that post. (sm)
        I really don't understand that, either.... - Observer
        You didn't answer MY question. - kam (nm)
        If you are talking to me... - Observer
      - Maybe the tobacco companies have - purchased the President's vote?
        Sigghhhhhhhh.... - Observer
        The cost of S-CHIP for an entire year equals - the amount we spend in Iraq daily. (sm) kam
        You bet the government could come up... - Observer
        So pretty much Jesus would be like, - sorry kids, you got crappy parents-ur on ur own!
        Let me try this one more time...sigh... - Observer
        Average family on S-CHIP makes around 40,000 - - not 80,000 - I believe 80,000 is just New York
        You are correct about the $40K.... - Observer
        This section of this article clarifies the - income issue somewhat (kam) sm
        Correction: The cost to cover Montana kids. - kam (nm)
        Republicans and Democrats worked together on - this bill (kam) sm
        I didn't *demonize* anyone..... - Observer
        You keep saying I don't want affordable health care for children... - Observer
    - Pardon the typo in the post above.... - Observer
- More food for thought. Another - NY Times article (sm) kam
  - I would just like to know - DW
    - SCHIP program - Observer
      - Did Bush actually say he was against this bill - because of illegal immigrants? (sm) kam
        SCHIP and Illegals - Observer
- And pay for it with cigarettes? - Lifelong Democrat
  - How about knocking some of those able-bodied adults on welfare... - Observer
    - It's very difficult to qualify for welfare these days. It is the rich getting - richer and the poor poorer.
      - Not really sure what you mean by difficult... - Observer
    - Yet you are strongly pro-life - don't you care - what happens to the babies? They need healthcare!
      - Yes, I am strongly pro-life... - Observer
        But while you are awaiting the perfect bill - children are suffering (sm)
        They are looking at raising taxes on cigarettes... - Observer
        Sounds like you have compassion for everyone! - nm
        What is not compassionate about that? - Observer
  - I don't think most smoker's will quit just to - save money, so I think it's a great idea but...
    - If the cigarette tax would completely fund... - Observer
      - If we can find money for an expensive war - we can find money for healthcare (sm) kam
        healthcare a problem prior to THIS war and they did - pretty much nothing for just about 4ever...n/m
        I will try this one more time... - Observer
- My big concern is what is attached to that - bill that we don't know about.....nm
  - Where's the concern for the dying US children? - No bill is perfect, but all kids need medical care
    - Sigh....Republicans are not against insuring children... - Observer
      - Agree illegal health care has got to go! - Lifelong Democrat
        illegal health care - MTinIL
- Many Republicans support the bill, but - Bush said in the past he will veto it. (sm)
  - Yes - Easily

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