Affirmative Action has served its purpose. There was a time and place
Posted By: Lu on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: Oh, BTW, you mean that Affirmative Action - sweetpea
for it and that time is gone. Affirmative action leveled the playing field quite nicely, but now serves to tilt the scales and make white people the minority. It needs to be done away with. It has run its course.
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Oh, BTW, you mean that Affirmative Action
that also protected you (I'm presuming) as a woman? Is that the one you mean?
you do know what Affirmative action is dont you?
My father, the most qualified (HE WAS TOLD) was passed over for the job and it was given to a minority...
dont be so blind that this doesn't happen...
talk about fair. yea how far is that.
A time and purpose under heaven.
Politics and religion don't mix. The days of the Christian Right stranglehold on our secular republic are numbered. The resurrection of the old cultural liberalism can't get here soon enough to suit me. According to the latest polls, it seems I am not alone.
Supreme Court will not take on BO's Birth certificate . Time for you to take action!
I stated in a previos post a few days ago that BO birth certificate case would not be heard by the Supreme Court. As many of you have said the judges and the Supreme Court are suppressing evidence as to the real situation that many of you do have extemsive, and true facts about. Clearly from your in depth knowledge about this situation, a cover up is occurring, not only by the Federal courts, but by the Supreme Court as will.
As in my previous post I strongly suggest that with the real evidence that you posses, that you most simplyt take action now, and save this country, not only ultimately disallowing Obama to be president, but to ultimately perform the ultimate patriotic duty for yourselves, as well as performing the highest civic duty that you likely will ever do in your lifetimes.
There is another current legal case in the works regarding this serious situation. Thus far the costs for persuing this matter are over $30,000 dollars. This can be found by doing a Google search, donations are badly needed, and if you people will make substantial donations regarding this, the higher the likelihood that the case will be placed in the hands of a federal judge.
The other possibility here is to start as a group, a collective case, pool your resourses to hire an attorney who speecialises in these matters, pay the retainer fees, the attorney's hourly fees regarding the case, and get the case filed in the Federal courts. The fees for doing this are not cheap, but you are MTs and make high paying salaries, so $20,000 to $30,000 should not be a problem here. Even the appeal process that is likely to occur is not out of your range as MTs, as it really only costs about double the amount of money to do so, as again the total expenses regarding filing an appeal would likely only be about $50,000 to $60,000 dollars,, and the beauty of the system is that if you are ultimately successful in winning the case, and you likely would be with the real facts at your disposal, the court costs are covered, and you would become true national hero's!!!!!
I don't understand that with the true information that you posses, why you are not persuing this instead of writing about on message boards.
With the true facts that you posses it is quite likely that you will ultimately win the case, would have completed the highest of civic duties, and will be held in the highest of esteem for finally exposing a person who has committed a terrible fraud, not only to the election process, but also to the federal judicial system, and ultimately going as far as perpetrating that fraud up to and inc;luding the Supreme Court.
I laud you in advance for having the fortitude for persuing this, and look forward to saluting you as well all of of the other American people, for performing the highest civic and patriotic duty that one ever could. It's people like you, that never give up, and get to the bottom of such an important situation. You are the true American heroes.
with designated time and place
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Enthusiastically affirmative on that one. nm
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Served Today
http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/berg-v-obama-update-friday-september-5.html
and perhaps the country would be better served...
if O had stayed in Chicago. :)
And who never served in the military
and is on record as despising it? Class? Obama!
Has McCain really served this country
all his life or has he served himself? I am sick and tired of these career politicians. My opinion is that McCain will be the next Herbert Hoover if he is elected. What Obama will bring if he is elected I do not know but I do know that either politician who is elected, and one will be, they had better be a rocket scientist if they hope to save this country. Again, I'll take a chance on the unknown versus the known. I was going to do a write in for Lou Dobbs but the last few days he has really started to show that he is really a McCain supporter and I have lost a great deal of respect for him and his "telling it like it is" Mr. Independent.
As for Obama's birith certificate, I wish people would get over that. Donchathink if there was anything illegal about it the McCain camp would have ferretted it out? I do. Nothing but stupid rumors. I'm far more worried about Palin's air head than I am about Obama's birth certificate. Not to mention the question of McCain's judgment in selecting her as his running mate, which IMHO he selected her not for the "good of his country" but thinking she would get him elected. What does it say about him that he had only met her once? twice maybe? and really didn't even know her. His first major decision even before he was elected tells a lot about how he would run the country.......business as usual...do what's best for his big business cronies and to he11 with the American people, same ole, same ole.
And for the Democrats..........they don't have such a hot record either, passing the bail-out and trying to ram illegal immigration down the throats of the American people regardless of what the PEOPLE want.
Flame away, I'm in an unusually grouchy mood this morning.
AND YOUR PURPOSE FOR DIGGING?
Do you really want to know the truth, or are you anticipating finding something to nail us with? If that is not your motive I apologize in advance. If it is, why don't you go on over there and straighten it all out?
Don't you think that our soldiers have a handle on this? If anything, why not investigate a population of people who would ALLOW AND ENCOURAGE children or teenagers to do these crimes? What kind of people would allow orphans to go homeless and go hungry? What kind of morals and integrity must they have?
Bottom line, a bullet or projectile kills humans just as dead if shot or left to explode by a 15-year-old as by an adult. They are lucky to be in that school and be helped by Americans or anyone else.
They are clueless on purpose ...
it's almost laughable.
She also served in city council and mayor...
and on term as a governor gives her one year more governing experience obama has. And she DOES mean change from Washington politics...she is fAR removed from that. She has a reputation for reform, took on the good ol'boys in her own party and won. Those wanting change should be happy to see her.
She has an 80% approval rating in her state. That is unheard of. SHe must be doing something right, because not only Republicans live in alaska.
She is pro life. That is true. But you on this board have told me repeatedly I should not be a one-issue voter. So, lead by example.
How can one doubt that McCain served our country?
Did you miss the part where he was a prisoner of war and served our armed forces? Anyone related to a military member knows that they make less money than their civilian counterparts and, in exchange, get the honor of putting their own lives in danger to serve this country. I am sure that McCain did not want to be a prisoner of war and I can bet that it was not exactly self-serving. If you do not like his politics, fine, but don't cheapen his sacrifices to this country!
I don't think it serves any purpose to continue this. sm
Suffice it to say, I can't imagine how I would feel were I in his shoes. Israel is facing some pretty terrible prospects in the days ahead. Anyway, I'd say it's time to let it drop. It's funny, as I am posting this, I see over to the side on the right under the ads by Google, Christian Jewish tours. I have always wanted to go. I have friends who have gone with their churches. I may never get the chance.
This is off the deep end and it serves no useful purpose
If that is what you want to believe, so be it. I agree with absolutely nothing you have said and I also feel confident that I understand exactly what he meant and who he is.
This statement was put on here for the sole purpose . . .
of inflaming those nut jobs that would actually believe this garbage!! If it wasn't such a pathetic attempt, it would almost be hilarious!
The purpose of investigating voter fraud...sm
It is not to be able to go back and forth, but to get to the core of the problems and solve them. On this board, you will see articles about voter fraud against liberal voters. That's not saying it doesn't happen on both sides, but which do you think WE are concerned about.
The purpose was made crystal clear in the post.
It was very clear. Don't know how to make it any clearer.
There is no defending this action. SM
But what makes you think this guy is a conservative? Did he say that. I read this and I don't see him making a statement. Your signs don't even begin to measure up to mine. I would have thought the cesspool DU could have come up with better than that.
would much rather see action that hoping a
action speaks louder than words, they say
It is words. When he puts that into action....
I will begin to trust him. His actions will dictate what he meant by that...and if it was just words or sincerity. Since almost everything he is for I am against, I don't see how he could hear my voice, with all due respect. But time will tell. His actions will determine what he meant.
If you are not pro-military action in Iraq (which lead to war)...sm
Then we are on the same side of this debate.
Spreading the wealth in action...love it!
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I am telling you the action is on the Faith Forum
The election is over and Christmas is probably not coming. They are all getting ready for the end and it is very interesting. I myself hoard spam just in case, and water, and cat liter, but not much else. Good Luck!
Insanity is performing the same action repeatedly
and expecting different results. What makes you think the Supreme Court is going to find any differently than every other court... He was born in Hawaii & is a citizen, and nothing is going to change that no matter how many stars you wish upon.
People's United Means Action
I had heard it before but didn't know what it meant.
You would prefer he not have staff on day 1? Or have a plan of action? sm
He has done nothing that previous Presidents-elect have not done in the days between election and inauguration.
Yeah right. Served under Reagan, Bush I and Bush II
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There's a place for everything!!!
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she did go to the right place
they had her husband listed but not her. she went on the county website and found her active status after she got home but now it's too late because of the provisional ballot being accepted.
You ought to see the place now.
The people who bought it left the barn fall apart. They tore down the summer kitchen (2 rooms, 1 up, 1 down) and "canning house" (24 x 40), and never took care of the orchard. It looks like a dump...and it breaks my heart. Everything was in good shape when we tried to buy it.
Probably the same place she gets
It seems to be of comparable quality.
Web site best place.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
Mouse over the issues and a drop down list will provide you with lots of links that should keep you busy. You can also check out some of his better speeches if you like. If you are interested in being conversational and social and an Obama party, this is the place for you.
As you have already discovered, this chat room is the last place to look. The web site simply lays out the platform and policies in Obama's own words, without bias one way or the other..simple straight talk.
If, however, you are interested in getting kicked out of the party and labeled a right-wing fringe element, then go to the other links on black liberation theology. You are free, of course, to read about it and come to your own conclusions. But if you do explore that issue, please read the website throughly before deciding whether or not you think he subscribes to that theology. I can tell you categorically, none of his supporters believe the propaganda suggested to you in the other posts in this regard. It would be interesting to ask others at the party what they think about the assertions that Obama embodies those beliefs.
How refreshing to find a voter as open minded as this. Good luck with our research. Feel free to email me with any questions you may have.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
System in place........
No more taxes? Would be nice, but have to have some system in place to run schools, hospitals, keep infrastructure up to date, etc.
That is what your state is supposed to be responsible for.....not our government.
that's okay - I just said we needed something in place nm
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And, according to the Q'ran there is a place
in h*ll for all who are not Muslim, including you, if you are not Muslim.
Wanna dispute that?
there is already some provisions in place -
I already had my preexisting conditions covered because I had had continuous coverage for 18 months before with another company - so it can be done already in some cases. Why would it be impossible to make it a law in every case?
That would be the US Senate....same place as McC
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put this in the wrong place--sorry
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I only everybody would think like you, the world would be a better place,...thanks,.....nm
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You nut jobs can have this place
Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain. If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud. Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs. I think they are professional political pot stirers!!!
BB, you don't think religion has a place anywhere! LOL sm
You do know I'm just kidding, right?
Warren did take a biblical stand against gay marriage and homosexuality, which does surprise me, considering what "The MESSage" says, but as much as I disagree with him on a lot of things (not necessarily environmental) I have to agree with his stance regarding what you refer to as alternative lifestyles. According to the Bible, homosexuality ranks right in there with all the other things you mentioned. I won't go any further into that because this is not the forum for it. However, I do think that Warren's watered down style probably fits in more with Obama's idea of religion that, oh, say, Billy Graham might. I just wonder if Rev. Wright got his feelings hurt because he wasn't chosen. He was, after all, Obama's religious mentor.
Thanks. If I want entertainment, that would be the place, but
I would find two-way conversations between opposing points of view aimed at defining differences, finding common ground, and respectful exchange of reliable and verifiable information which is SOLUTIONS oriented much more challenging. Any ideas?
Why the name calling? Isn't this a place where...
...people can feel free to express their opinions? Your post was just plain rude. 
Most abortions don't take place......... sm
at 1 day after conception. So that line of thinking is just ridiculous.
Now, let's suppose you kill a 3-year-old or 10-year-old or 15-year-old child. Would you be guilty of murder in that instance? I thought so.
He said lobbiests would have no place
in his administration, and it is filled with lobbiests.
He said Americans would have 5 days to view the porkulus stimulus $700B package and we had none, but it took him 4 days to sign it when it passed while his lazy behind went on a mini vacation.
He said his administration would be the most transparent of all, but it isn't. He even signed the budget bill with its 9000 pork items behind closed doors, very unlike his public display of "transparency" in using all those other pens he writes with to destroy the Constitution. You can, however, go out online and read each pork item line by line, and see how we are transparently wasting money.
He campaigned on hope and change, yet his administration is nothing but Clinton re-treads, crooks, and tax evaders.
However, you have to give it to him. He is fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises. He's paying back the homosexuals, the baby killers, the communists, and George Soros and whoever else he is beholden to who want to ensure the demise of the U.S.
For your own survival, remember this term: Cloward-Piven Strategy. Go here to read more about Obama and manufactured crisis. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
This is not conspiracy. The facts presented are documented, and you should be very, very afraid.
Of course, conservatives (not to be interpreted as Republican conservatives) researched and knew all about Obama and his agenda before he won the election. We did our homework. The above article will give you a very close glimpse into the mind of an evil man and his evil compatriots, his associations that the MSM and far left liberals said was not important. Who you pal around with is significant. Didn't your mom tell you that birds of a feather flock together?
They're all over the place in FL. nm
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You don't get your news from the right place
There are legions of moderate Muslims and clerics, both here and abroad, in Europe and the Middle East, who have spoken out against terrorist activities. Now if all you watch is Fox, you understandably have not had that news filter down to you. Many in some of the hard-line areas of the Middle East (I guess you'd call it their Qur'an Belt) have risked their well-being to speak out against the atrocities. Unfortunately, there, like here, people with a moderate view are drowned out by those with the more radical religious beliefs.
Falling all over the place.
What is happening with those repubs?
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