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Actually new stuff, you just don't like to see it. n/m

Posted By: just me on 2008-11-29
In Reply to: Very NOT interesting, same old tired stuff. n/m - gourdpainter

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This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.


Really, is this the best stuff you can come up with over here? How about some

I don't know why you say some of the mean stuff you say, so....
who are you to determine who is a straight thinking person?  I think what he was getting as is simple.  It is a FACT, like it or not, that African-Americans make up a huge portion of our jail population, much more than their 13% representation in the population would expect.  Saying that a black person has a lower IQ because they are black is racist.  Stating a fact like 70% of black children are born to an unwed mother, while sad and startling, is simply a fact and not a racist comment.
Since you take this stuff so seriously
look at who is #2---but again, I guess the Google fairies have worked their magic in putting these people under the word miserable.

so it's stuff everybody already gets anyway...
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Same here. Cant take any more of this stuff on TV.
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I think BB get all this stuff from
moveon.org or something.  Sounds a lot like that sort of thing. 
Even if he did say that stuff...
who cares?! Is Bush in the White House now? No! Whatever lame remarks Biden might have made to him when he was in the White House really don't matter any more. He's just trying to puff out his chest because he has nothing else to do since Obama is keeping him on such a tight leash.

Unfortunately, like so many of the rest of our "leaders," you can't believe a thing that comes out of their mouths.
LOL! Who comes up with this stuff??
I have to forward this to my husband now; he loves a good joke!
This stuff was not broadcast
 because anyone believes Bush is a groper or is worried that he has a potty mouth.  it was published and broadcast to show how inept he is out of his element - the ranch.
bored with this stuff, onto something new
Mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears is out promoting new book. In a Newsweek article, she points out the hypocrisy of her daughter being criticized for being a pregnant teenager and she being called a bad mom, but Bristol Palin is commended for valuing life and her mom is made out to be a good mom.

Not a fan of the Spears, but I thought she had a valid point.
don't make stuff up. You don't know that, and neither do I...nm
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Truly scary stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU
of course he would say that stuff - he was running against him! nm
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More dumb stuff.
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Interesting stuff...

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html


Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...

Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...



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Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...

...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/b]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...

...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism.

Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...



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In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners.

Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page..."

Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...

tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...



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In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago

Co-founded?...

Wonder who co-founded it with him?...



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William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament.

Okaaaaayy...

So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...

Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...



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GRANT SUPPORT

Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.

Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000
Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...

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Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....



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Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999
There you have it folks...

Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...

But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?..."

Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...



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At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.”
When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...


Thanks - it too me a lot of deletions and stuff
I didn't want to offend anyone because I believe we all have rights as human beings to believe whatever we want to believe - I have a mormon sister (who grew up with me in a methodist church) and she keeps pouring on me how her religion is right and anyone who is not mormon will not be on the "higher level" after we depart and then it will be too late. HA HA HA But then again I have an aunt who feels that because we are not in the charismatic movement we are heathens. HA HA HA. Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at it.

That's too funny about the guy telling God to get his act together. God's probably up there saying "who died and made you boss". HA HA
Believe it or not some of us 'uns still eat that stuff
which is why we won't go hungry.  'Course ya gotta be a Hill William (classier version of Hill Billy) to appreciate them thar vittles. LOL
I think he has his stuff altogether, and if I were you
would not worry 1 second about his getting the big head. There have been others before him (say Kennedy that I remember well before he took office and while in office) and the same thing you are seeing, the adoring audiences, etc. were very apparent then also. Obama has a lot of sense going for him- nah, would not lose any sleep on such a trivial issue. The country is so glad to be rid of Bush that people are tremendously overjoyed about this new fresh face. I think he will be a tremendous president.
This is scary stuff.
I'm totally out of the loop on this one. When did this come about? I'd like to read up more about this.
funny stuff
"Well who wouldn't want to teabag John McCain?"

OMG I just totally lost it when I heard that! ROFLMAO !
Granted, noone wants to see stuff like that, but...(sm)
these people are not strangers to violence and humiliation (including the civilian population).  They also saw what their own countries have done to prisoners (again including their own civilian population), which, as has been pointed out numerous times on this board, is just as bad, and probably worse.  I think that has to play a role in it.  We're talking about a different culture with different views of punishment and "rules of war."
The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.

I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
They are anal about typos and stuff, Rep. sm
It messes up their notebooks.  When challenged they have two strategies:  Call you a liar or say you aren't worth their time to argue with. Pretty consistent and predictable. 
Wow. This is pretty scary stuff.
Guess there aren't too many logical conclusions that can be drawn from it other than the obvious.  :-(
I read all that hot air, digg stuff
of whatever Brunson posts. What are you afraid of.
And stuff the pockets of the weathiest
Slash and burn. It's what they do.
As will the stuff that piles up on the other side....
when the debates start. We'll see how it all plays out, and how all of America perceives it, not just we on this board. That will tell the tale. Yes, she did say he was the man she admires most in the world. If I recall, as a young man, Obama snorted cocaine and drank heavily, by his own admission. Michelle still loves him. In my mind, both of these things are in the past, in their youth, and nonissues.
Please stop smoking that stuff...
it is interfering with your cognitive ability to THINK. This crock has been refuted A LONG TIME AGO. Please get with the program.
Wow....that's good stuff....and he does explain it....sm
very well, so that you can understand it.




Pretty ugly stuff for someone . . .
who is so fond of mudslinging!!  He is a desperate man who would rather incite hate mongering than address the real issues at hand!!
This stuff has happened at both rallies, just not
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The stuff from China may be cheap
But it's junk! When I got married, I got an electric can-opener as a gift. (We're talking way back in the dark ages...the 70s). Anyway, it lasted almost 20 years til it quit and I had to replace it. Guess how long it's replacement lasted? Less than a year. Ditto my other appliances. Sure it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.

Add to that the recalls caused by the poisons in pet food and baby formula, all the leaded paint scares from Chinese toys....

We're better off without them. Buy American! You might pay more, but the stuff lasts longer and you're helping to keep our people working.

You ar right, Kaydie. How can people SEE this stuff
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The stuff in that article has been refuted...
and so far as I know has not been endorsed by known communists and terrorist organizations (Sal Alinsky's son and Hamas). In the questionable associates column, Obama is way ahead in "tics." Just being honest here.
have you actually read what it said, or just the out of context stuff? nm
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thanks for the link. interesting stuff.
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My sister believes this stuff
My sister's church tells her this stuff to scare her and get her tithe. Let me tell you in the 80s she was no saint. It makes me feel bad for her that her church makes her so afraid and discourages her from thinking for herself.
Pretty scary stuff

Emanuel reveals plans for mandatory induction for all young adults into a civilian force.  - Sounds like the draft to me.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80829


 


my job has already been affected since this stuff started -
I am already down about $1500 a month in the last 3 months. I know what is going to happen - but I don't think I should have to keep helping bail other people out!

Is anybody helping bail me out because I cannot pay my mortgage this month? No - because I was responsible... is anybody helping me out because I can't put gas in my car this week? No, they are not. Is anybody helping me out with the power bill, the water bill - are they going to pay my cable so that it is not turned off this week? No they are not.

It is time to stop bailing these companies out and let them figure out how to straighten their messes out on their own.

We are just giving these companies more money for more of the same and I for one am tired of doing it.
Very NOT interesting, same old tired stuff. n/m
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I think this "O lover/worshiper stuff
comes from little chicks who aren't dry behind the ears yet.  I think the rabid Republicans are far more vocal than the avowed Democrats.  The person who called me "stupid" above makes me laugh.  A couple of things I've heard in the past few days although I haven't taken time to really research what is going on..........Caroline Kennedy to take Hillary's senate seat???  Chelsea Clinton taking the seat?? and....horror of horrors, out of Bush's own mouth, the possibility of his brother Jeb being elected to the senate.  I would say I am an equal opportunity politician hater.........Democrat or Republican.  We do not need Caroline riding into office on her legendary name and as for the Clintons and Bushes...well, I've had a belly full of both of those names. "Obama" is a welcome change of name although I am not happy with all the Clintonites he is appointing and I suspect he's affiliated with the politics of the Clintons and Kennedys.....maybe even with the Bushes. 

How anyone can defend the Bush administration is far beyond me.  I heard D*ck Cheney tonight, from his own mouth, when it was stated by a news talk show host that 2/3 of the American thought the Iraq war was wrong.  He gave his EVIL grin and said "so?"  Ain't that special!!!!!  That is exactly what we've had for the past 8 years from this administration and the last 2 years of the Democrat led Congress....."this is what the people want....." and they say "SO?????"  One would think that it's about time we have a change in leadership.  But then I guess some would consider that though to be "stupid."
Mundane Governor Stuff
I'm thinking MS Palin's probably pretty peeved to have to deal with such mundane stuff as Alaska's state budget, especially with the fall of the price of oil. Don't worry, Sara. OPEC's planning on holding some back, so the price'll shoot right back up.

How do you keep 'em down on the farm after they've been in that spotlight?
I really wish you would quit this childish stuff.
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Geez...where do you guys get this stuff?...(sm)

The middle east is simply hoping for a break from the Bush policies, as well as policies previous to Bush if the truth be known.  For example, the majority over there would like to see us quit pampering Israel (and rightly so, I might add).  They would like to see the US treating them like people instead of just putting in dictators that we like. 


Obama hasn't won these people over yet.  They are simply waiting to see what he does.  They understand the concept of actions speak louder than words.  So actually, they are just giving him a chance to show what he will do -- unlike pubs here in the states, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he has won them over.  He has a long way to go to get there.


I buy the cheapest stuff on the shelf....
sometimes, you have to decide between food and "luxury" items - like paper towels. So, I will choose food over most anything when the purse strings are strangling us. So, I know where she's coming from. And, we have no debt. Filed bankruptcy last summer due to astronomical medical bills.............and would not be able to afford meds otherwise...........
With all the supply and demand stuff...
...I'm guessing the price of tea may have increased since yesterday.
With all the supply and demand stuff...

...I'm guessing the price of tea may have increased since yesterday.


I noticed yesterday that several food items went down in price.  (Maybe others went up in price and I didn't know it because they wouldn't be items I would normally purchase.)


Things like butter being $2.00 (last week was $2.68), bread $1.12 a loaf (last week was $1.36 a loaf), American cheese $2.38 a pound (last week was $3.36) -- stuff like that.


With all the supply and demand stuff...

...I'm guessing the price of tea may have increased since yesterday.


I noticed yesterday that several food items went down in price.  (Maybe others went up in price and I didn't know it because they wouldn't be items I would normally purchase.)


Things like butter being $2.00 (last week was $2.68), bread $1.12 a loaf (last week was $1.36 a loaf), American cheese $2.38 a pound (last week was $3.36) -- stuff like that.


She is picking at Old Testament stuff
which if she read the Bible all the way through she would know that the coming of Christ fulfilled all the Old Testament requirements and therefore we are not required to have a "fattened calf" for sacrifice, etc.


AMEN!!!!! This is great stuff.
I live in Michigan...we have the same problem. The illegals get free bennies, free health care, free breakfast and lunches, etc. They protested a couple of years ago to get the driver's license tests in Spanish. Excuse me?????? If you can't read English, you don't need to drive.

I type mainly ED reports and when you put in demographics for insurance, what comes up?? Nothing, nada, zero. And our hospital is REQUIRED to get them a translator. No matter what language they speak.

Again, AMEN!