ANTI-RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS are even more arrogant and ignorant.
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Anti-Semitism versus Anti-Zionism
I wanted to address an exchange below that occurred between myself and a couple of others on the board (just the big bad and another poster who did not use anything to identify herself) last night. In response to my post about the righteous prevailing meaning the Israeli's would prevail because they are the "righteous", just the big bad responded "So was Hitler righteous?" She was likening the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinians as being akin to Nazi Germany's treatment of the Jews. I then pointed out her anti-Semitic rhetoric. To which I was blasted for accusing an anti-Zionist as being an anti-Semitic.
I want to point out to many of you who hold strong opinions regarding the Israel/Palestinian conflict, there is a very fine line between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, a line that was very clearly crossed when just the big bag posted her Hitler remark, a line many have crossed in this discussion by likening the Gaza Strip to a concentration camp. When you say these things you have become an anti-Semitic. Below is an excerpt from an article written by Ami Isseroff:
If you judge a Jewish state by standards that you apply to no one else; if your neck veins bulge when you denounce Zionists but you've done no more than cluck "well, yes, very bad about Darfur";
if there is nothing Hamas can do that you won't blame 'in the final analysis' on Israelis;
if your sneer at the Zionists doesn't sound a whole lot different from American neoconservative sneers at leftists;
then you should not be surprised if you are criticized, fiercely so, by people who are serious about a just peace between Israelis and Palestinians and who won't let you get away with a self-exonerating formula "I am anti-Zionist, but not anti-Semitic" to prevent scrutiniy. If you are anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic, then don't use the categories, allusions, and smug hiss that are all too familiar to any student of prejudice.
I think that sums it up.
No dear, it's anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic.
Horrific is as horrific does. This long term occupation has spanned 60 years. The Holocaust spanned 12. Thanks to your Zionist government, its historic anmesia and its barbaric practices, the Jewish people have lost their exclusive claim to pain and suffering at the hands of state-sponsored terrorism aimed at the genocidal annihilation of an entire population. Your Holocaust was based on religious affiliation and racial purification. The Palestinian Holocaust is based on the ethnic cleansing of a pathologic nationalism that has been out of control for 6 decades.
You cannot declare yourself in charge of defining any other person's beliefs based on your concepts of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. I very painstakingly explained to you where I was coming from with that and how I make the distinction. It is the nationalistic fascist ideals that underpin the Zionist movement, not the Jewish people or their religious affiliation that are the targets of the hatred. In fact, they are also captive to their own Zionist leadership, but to a much lesser degree than the Palestinians.
The Holocaust is the only thing in recent history that can be used by comparison to describe the plight of the Palestinians. In fact, there is no parallel historical context that it can be placed in, other than perhaps the apartheid of South Africa. The most accurate description would be a combination of the two horrors.
Any way you slice it, you are trying to defend the indefensible and will never succeed in gaining any credibility, global tolerance of acceptance (except, of course from the US, who is using your country and your people for their own personal gains...better watch your backs) as long as you are the occupiers and the oppressors.
The Christian zealots don't give a s___ about the
opposing abortion so vehemently. It's all about control. It's all about fear. It's all about making people think twice about speaking out, for fear that the bible-thumpers' fingers will be pointed at THEM next.
If you guys put all that time, energy, money, and hot air into actually HOUSING, TAKING CARE OF, FEEDING AND EDUCATING all the lives you like to think you're 'saving', then you might actually be doing some good. But no, you prefer to just take the choice on that issue, and others, out of the hands of the individual and into your own.
Until you people start to clean your OWN houses (& those of worship, too), and take care of the myriad of things that are wrong with the way 'organized religion' is practiced worldwide, you will continue to be viewed as radicals, and as pure evil by those who see through your holy cloaks of 'righteousness'.
And anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage
will fix the economy? I think not. Besides anyone with half a brain cell knows BOTH of them will raise taxes on all of us. Forget tax breaks. How do you think the $700 billion and climbing is going to get paid....from money falling out of the sky????? Get real.
Anti-choice, anti-welfare,
No hypocrisy there?
Anti-gay/anti-abortion
I'm someone who believes in minding my own business. What others do in their family lives is none of my business. There hasn't been one single (or married) gay person who has ever hurt me.
On the other hand, the policies of the last eight years have hurt me a great deal. I don't have health insurance, so McCain can't tax mine, but he will tax everyone else's.
I want a President who can speak English (for a change), one who is intelligent and even tempered, and one who not only acknowledges that there is a huge problem with the middle class but whose entire platform has been devoted to solving that problem.
One day, McCain says the "fundamentals of the economy are strong." The next day, he's canceling a debate to rush back to Washington to fix the "crisis," except that he doesn't really "rush," and he didn't cancel the debate. He's running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
Obama's slogan has always been change, from the very beginning, and McCain has stolen that slogan.
I'm just personally sick and tired of politicians who are pro-corporations and anti-Americans.
Corporate tax breaks simply don't work. The beneficiaries of these breaks pocket the money. They don't create jobs; they outsource them. As MTs, we should know that more than anyone.
Obama wants to reward businesses who KEEP jobs in America. That's why I voted for him, along with the other reasons above, and that's why my daughter and son-in-law also voted for him, so he has received three votes from this household alone.
The "trickle-down" theory doesn't work and depends on the non-existent benevolence of greedy executives. It's time to try the "trickle-up" theory, IMHO.
Everyone is so upset at the thought of rising taxes. I wish someone would tell me just HOW we expect to pay for all Bush's wars, as this will fall to the next President, along with the present financial fiasco.
Arrogant, very arrogant...
Again your presumptions that you know best. What on earth makes you presume that the Iraq people are depending on us? Depending on us for what? They only thing the Iraqi people can depend on from the United States is more pain. What bubble are you living in?
I am confident that once we pull out the military and start sending envoys to help rebuild the country with monetary support under the direction of the Iraqi people, and not the other way around, we may find some kind of resolution, but not until then.
Your way of thinking only provokes further military action. If we are doing such a great job how did Sadar come into power with half his people in government? Boy, that military action sure is paying off isn't it?
The man is not arrogant. Why would
he admit to being a rock star? He's a politician, smart, and very easy on the eyes. George Clooney has been voted sexiest man of the year and does he go around saying it? In his time JFK would have been considered a rock star. Did that hinder his ability to run the country? Senator Obama is a popular man running for a very public office and the public likes him.
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arrogant?
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arrogant?
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This is so arrogant I don't even know
where to start.
The woman who posted yesterday that "God" told her to vote for Obama is EXACTLY like you. Exactly. Just someone so unevolved she needs the "voice of the chief" whispering in the ear because of a rudimentary inner voice.
Satan is just an externalization, a personification, of your own evil thoughts.
okay, not only negative but arrogant!
A bit of humility would be in order.
Good breeding consists of concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person. - Mark Twain
I don't think she's arrogant but pointing out the
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How arrogant to suggest she should go elsewhere.
His/her opinions are just as good as your's.
What an arrogant mofo.
Unskilled? As much as he is worried about healthcare you would think he would give some credit to those of us who make sure medical information is typed correctly. They don't care about quality unless the account complains. So because we are "unskilled" that makes it okay for our jobs to go to friggin India. To me...not only should that kind of information NOT go out of the country, but it is like he is picking and choosing which jobs are important and which ones are not.
Our jobs should be kept here not only because many people need these kind of work but also because sending pertinent information, like SS#s, out of country, to me, is a matter of national security. What an ars!
He is an insulting, arrogant man.
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Ah, but I believe Obama is arrogant enough
to think that he can successfully do what every European socialist society could not. They just lacked the secret ingredient - HIM! If something we do fails, we will JUST DO IT MORE!
Has that not been how the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, the War on Crime, the War on Venereal Disease, Outcome-Based Education, etc. have gone?
Dems Arrogant?
Past 8 years. Nothing says arrogance like George "Dumbya" Bush and Dlck (nuff said) Cheney!
Republicans (politicians - not party members) are the most arrogant bunch of hypocrites on the face of the earth!
What do you know about me? What an arrogant piece of work you are.
Guess what, we went to school and work our butts off and pay for everything we have. We're not rich either. But I don't hold disdain for those who made it bigger than I. It's a free country.
Obama did that to intimidate. He is arrogant.
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You left out the word arrogant.
I watched him get off his Air Force One plane last night. He looked so proud. Never waved, just gave the look, "ME, ME, ME."
His speech he made yesterday was horrible, actually terrifying. He made some want to run in fear, but run to what? After HIS speech yesterday (being realistic here) we are going down, all of us. Major trickle effect in our economy is going to occur. People will be starting to cut back on cable TV, not going out to eat, etc., and then those employees in restaurants and businesses will be out of jobs and it goes on and on.
I thought somewhere in the stimulus it will show a break for buyers to buy new cars. Who the heck has money to buy a 25,000 to 45,000 dollar car IF you are out of a job. Sure you can do that if you have a job, but NOT a job. You need food on the table instead. It just does not look good, especially after O's speech yesterday. He loves to make you run in fear and likes to threaten ya which does not work for me. I need positive remarks, not negative.
ARROGANT? The Decider had that down to a science!
Landing on that aircraft carrier with his fake package - hahahahaha - Mission Accomplished all right! See ya in the soup kitchen!
you are pathetic, intolaerant, arrogant, etc....
She is an US citizsen. like you, she is the supervisor, she did not ASK before if the office policies allow to put up a 3 x 4 foot American flag in the OFFICE.
Your are soooo wrong and stubborn and you do not even get it.
Yes, arrogant.. distasteful, yet I am not surprised
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Yessiree. The elite, arrogant, audacious,
racist, Muslim, terrorist, lying, liberal, radical, leftie, hate-mongering, socialist, Obotic, Kool-Aid sipping, Messianic, commies and their fellow comrades, followers of the Chosen One and all his worshiping sheeple sure are a bodacious bunch, dude.
Here's the deal. This is a political opinion forum. There are dueling countdowns going on and unless I missed something, I'm not breaking any rules by injecting a third countdown here.
Arrogant bullies - and I like your word "thugs" too.
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You sound arrogant and pompous - please read my message
Please keep an open mind and listen to what I have to say and try and see it how others do. I've been reading your previous posts and you sound like you are on a mission to save all the aborted babies (before being aborted). This is the way I feel...I believe in a higher power (our Creator). I feel so strongly that he is a powerful and just God. I believe that when a soul dies it goes to the other side and will live forever in a world of love and will be taken care of. I would rather know that a soul that has been aborted is now living on the other side with our creator in a life of love and compassion being taken care of by the people who have passed on before us. I would rather know they are there rather than having to spend an eternity in he!! on this earth. A baby that lives but was going to be aborted will never be loved the way a baby should be loved. For those with stories that their mother was going to abort but decided to keep you and you were born and you had the most loving family that is wonderful. But I think we all know very well that too many times it doesn't work out like that. The baby is born into a world where the mother blames it for everything bad that happens to her. I have a freind who's mother blames her for being born. She tells her if she never had her then her (the mother) life would have been so much better and she would have been able to accomplish everything she wanted to do, but society forced her into having the baby and now everything is my friends fault and my friend has never felt the kind of love most of us have when growing up. It is so so so sad to see and unfortunately it happens a lot. So as horrible as abortion may seem to some, I think its a Godsend to the unborn baby that is now in the heavens with our God. When being aborted the time length between life and death is short which is a lot better than having to live their whole lives (sometimes over 80 years) in a life of he!!
There are so many reasons that people have to have abortions and I don't think it is anyone's right to judge them for their actions.
I also believe after a person departs this earth and meets our Creator they will have to face some serious times. If you have an abortion of necessity that is one thing, but if you aborted a fetus that is developed or had been born already that is a whole other situation - again between the creator and the person.
I think its very very important that a woman is allowed to make a serious decision like this between themselves, their doctor and nobody else. No political figure or some religious figure giving their opinions of what should be done based on what they believe.
So, that is just my opinion.
And I think you have to read all of my posts, I am responding to arrogant inflammatory remarks, whic
Substantiation, no real substance, and yet these people are CHOOSING to start devisive threads with divisive remarks on this board, even making statements that historically are 100% inaccurate. Yes, I pray for unity, compassion, wisdom, etc., but the rabid Republicans on this board (and I do not mean all Rep., just a few loud ones), want to harshy judge and condemnn the new administration without giving things a chance, what would you call that? What about the "hit and run" posts by right wingers who continue to stir the pot with incorrect, slanted, and inflammatory remarks here? Fair is fair, I try to back up each statement I make with historical facts, I try to see both points of view (wow, I have actually agreed with Republicans on certain subjects!), but this board is not about me, or you, it is about all of us trying to hash out all the many struggles this nation now has, and with restraint, intelligence, and care look at each problem and try to help fix it. America comes first. Period.
Anti-Semitism
I would be mindful of how this word is tossed around. The Arabs are Semites too.
Not too sure. There have been a lot of anti-Bush sm
and military criticism articles the last week. I think they are feeling cornered.
Also, the US doesn't kill women and children??? It's just incredible to me that anyone cannot see what a total liar Bush is. Maybe that's why the media is finally getting some guts. Fallujah is proof they kill innocents, including women and children. White phosphorus was used in Lebanon too, apparently, although not reported very widely in the U.S. like everything else. Sane people see these horrific realities, and hopefully we are growing in numbers.
I suppose you are anti-gun as well.
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The anti-christ??
Please-with all the damage done by Bush, and Obama is the anti-christ to you?? He is a Christian man with a lovely, loving family, strong values, and wants what is best for America. And he hasn't even been sworn in yet? What is with you folks that see it necessary to act like Obama is the devil incarnate! I have prayed for my country, the my prayers have been answered. He takes office in January.
How did you get anti-welfare out of any of this?
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Anti-war people
All you anti-war people I would like to know what your position was right after 9-11? Were you antiwar then or screaming for the President of the United States to DO SOMETHING to protect us. That makes you hypocrites.
Shame on YOU, anti-SSM... it's not about
If the church is going to start dictating what the goverment does, then we d****d well better start TAXING them. Now THAT would be of help to the economy.
New Anti-Smoking Law
President Obama knows all too well how difficult it is to quit smoking, and today he addressed his struggle to kick the habit just before signing a law he hopes will help other people put out their cigarettes too.
"Each day, 1,000 young people under the age of 18 become new, regular, daily smokers, and almost 90 percent of all smokers began at or before their 18th birthday," Obama said today. "I know. I was one of these teenagers. And so I know how difficult it can be to break this habit when it's been with you for a long time."
The new tobacco law gives the Food and Drug Administration authority to regulate tobacco in the same way the government regulates breakfast cereals and pharmaceuticals.
"This legislation is a victory for bipartisanship, and it was passed overwhelmingly in both houses of Congress," Obama said today. "It's a victory for health care reform, as it will reduce some of the billions we spend on tobacco-related health care costs in this country."
Public health organizations and many lawmakers, several of whom joined Obama today for the signing, have been fighting for regulation for nearly a decade in hopes of helping an estimated 45 million adult smokers in the United States to kick their habit.
The law means the government will have the power to decide how cigarettes are advertised and monitor how they're promoted to young people. It means cigarette makers will be required to include new, larger warning graphics with more health information on their products and will be prohibited from using words like "light" and "low tar" in their marketing.
While the law does not have the power to ban cigarettes and nicotine outright, it does allow the FDA to reduce nicotine levels and harmful chemicals in tobacco products.
"Forty-five years after the first U.S. surgeon general's report linking cigarette smoking to lung cancer, the most deadly product sold in America will no longer be the least-regulated product sold in America," said Matthew Myers, president of Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, in a statement earlier this month when Congress passed the bill.
Within the year, a rule will also be reinstated that prohibits outdoor tobacco ads within 1,000 feet of schools and playgrounds, and bans tobacco brands from sponsoring sports and entertainment events, according to the law.
At the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, CEO John R. Seffrin said the changes "will finally put an end to Big Tobacco's despicable marketing practices that are designed to addict children to its deadly products."
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius also pinned high hopes on the effort.
"This legislation is a key part of our plans to cut health care costs and reduce the number of Americans who smoke," Sebelius said in a June 11 statement.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 440,000 people die prematurely from smoking each year, with an estimated 49,000 of those deaths due to secondhand smoke exposure.
"This legislation provides a tremendous opportunity to finally hold tobacco companies accountable and restrict efforts to addict more children and adults," American Heart Association CEO Nancy Brown said in a June 11 statement. "It has been a long and challenging process to move the bill through Congress but the determination of many concerned parents and supporters has never wavered."
She isn't just antiwar. She an anti-semite. sm
She is using her son's death as a platform to spout her left-wing lies and hysteria.
anti-semite? You are truly a wacko!
Anti-semite..oh please!! You fling your thoughts about jews around these boards all the time. How awful of you to accuse Cindy Sheehan of that. She is not anti semite. I truly believe you have a hang up or obsession with jewish people by your previous posts. Can we leave the jews alone..havent they suffered enough throughout time? Focus on the true issue..THE WAR IN IRAQ AND THE UNNECESSARY DEATHS IT IS CAUSING..
Your anti-Americanism is disturbing. sm
*Sorry arses* You compare the Revolutionary War to World War II. You call names and label. You are violently nearly out of control with your anger and your very wording borders on horrendously out of control. Do people really take you seriously in discussion. If so, why?
Zionism and Anti-Semitism
Zionism and Anti-Semitism
We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide. The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!
Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal to the country of which they are citizens. Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in. One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare. This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day.
Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine. They deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who, misusing the name of Israel our forefather, have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people.
It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation.
ANTI-SEMITISM BY POLITICAL ZIONISM
Although Zionists and others dispute it, the undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I. This aroused hatred of Jews in general among many non-Jews. While a prisoner in 1924 in the fortress of Lansberg on the River Lech, Hitler wrote his Mein Kampf. When he became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, he was assisted by Goebbels, Roseberg and Streicher. From them came the declarations, “The Jews of Germany caused the defeat of Germany in the 1914-1918 war; the Jews of Germany were responsible for the terrible conditions in Germany that followed the war; the Jews of Germany are foreigners and they wish to remain foreigners; they have no loyalty to the country of their birth; they are not human; they are filthy dogs; they have no right to intrude into Germany’s affairs; there are too many Jews in Germany.
As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)
Additional words from the vivid imagination of this dreamer, from p. 68 of Part I of his Diary.
So anti-Semitism, which is a deeply imbedded force in the subconscious mind of the masses, will not harm the Jews. I actually find it to be advantageous to building the Jewish character, education by the masses that will lead to assimilation. This education can only happen through suffering, and the Jews will adapt.
Hateful views of Jews as being subhuman did not have to be invented by Nazi theorists such as Hitler, Goebbels, Rosenberg and Streicher. This ideology was simply adapted from statements of political Zionists such as those found in the writings of the Zionist Yehezkel Kaufman in 1933.
In 1920 there were statements hostile to Jews expressed at Heidelberg University. These statements, arguing that Jews of Germany had caused the turmoil that followed the war; that the Jews of Germany had nothing in common with Germans, and that Germans had the right to prevent the Jews of Germany from intruding into the affairs of their volk were not made by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, but by Nahum Goldmann, who went in to become the President of the World Zionist Organization and head of the World Jewish Congress, and, indisputably, the most influential political Zionist in the world, second only to the Prime Minister of the State of Israel.
In 1921, Germans in Germany were told that:
“We Jews are aliens… a foreign people in your midst and we… wish to stay that way. A Jew can never be a loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people“.
Who spoke these vile words? It was Jacob Klatzkin, the second of two political Zionist ideologists in Germany at the time, where the Jews of Germany were enjoying full political and civil rights. It was he who had advocated undermining Jewish communities as the one certain way of acquiring a state. “They had no qualms concerning tearing down the existing Jewish communities.”
Who spoke in a public address at a political Zionist meeting in Berlin and declared that “Germany… has too many Jews”? Was it Hitler or Goebbels? No, it was Chaim Weizman, later to become the first President of the State of Israel. This address was published in 1920, and, thus, four years before Hitler had even written Mein Kampf.
How many Zionist Jews know of this vicious treachery uttered by these senior political Zionist leaders, these apostates from the Jewish People? At the Nuremberg Trials of Major War Criminals, Nazi propagandist, Julius Streicher testified: “I did no more than echo what the leading Zionists had been saying”, it is clear that he had told the truth.
In addition to Hitler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and Streicher, many other Nazi leaders used statements from Zionists to validate their charges against the Jews of Germany. Such are the efforts of Zionist leaders to this very day to maintain a high degree of anti-semitism in order to enable them, in feigned horror, to then point to anti-semitism to support their idolatrous and anti-Jewish cause. In 1963, Moshe Sharett, then Chairman of the Jewish Agency, told the 38th Annual Congress of the Scandinavian Youth Federation that the freedom enjoyed by the majority of Jews imperiled Zionism, and at the 26th World Zionist Congress, the delegates were told that the Jew is endangered by the easing of anti-Semitism in the United States “We are endangered by freedom” he declared.
Ben Gurion's Scandals
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As we stated earlier, Zionism thrives on anti-Semitism. Ben Gurion declared, “…not always and not everywhere do I opposed anti-Semitism”. Zionists regularly pull out their handy “anti-Semite” race card against anyone, Jew or non-Jew, who dares to speak out against the wickedness of Zionism.
During World War II, the Lehi organization, an offshoot of Begin’s Irgun that was headed by Yitzchak Shamir sought an alliance with Nazis! The following is a quote from the writings of the Lehi in their contact with the Nazis:
The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis and bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German position of power in the Near East ... The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side ... The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be in line with one of the recent speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which Herr Hitler stressed that any combination and any alliance would be entered into in order to isolate England and defeat it.
To those who assume that Zionists have been on the side of freedom and equality, these words seem strange. However, to those who understand the root of Zionism, which is the transformation and eradication of the concept of the traditional Jew and Judaism, these statements are not strange at all. They are to be expected.
The Zionists agreed with Nazism in general, even prior to the advent of Nazism. They believed that Jews could not, and should not, live in harmony in any other society in the world, and that should be removed from those societies for the benefit of those societies. They believed that the new Jewish existence in its own State would remake the image of Jews as “useless” and “parasites.” These ideas existed long before Adolf Hitler!
There is a huge amount of literature describing how the Zionists made it very difficult to save Jews during and after World War II. As various individuals and organizations were trying to arrange departures of Jews to western countries, the Zionists worked overtime to prevent this from happening. They expressed the opinion that building up the Jewish population of Palestine was more important than enabling Jews to go to third countries, and they insisted to western powers that Jews should not be accepted anywhere other than Palestine. Indeed, Yitzchak Greenbaum, a famous Zionist, proclaimed that “one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews in Poland.” The infamous David Ben-Gurion said in 1938:
If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.
Read about the brutal Zionist role in the Holocaust.
After the war, a Zionist “religious” leader, Rabbi Klaussner, who was in charge of displaced persons presented a report before the Jewish American Conference on May 2nd, 1948 :
I am convinced people must be forced to go to Palestine...For them, an American dollar appears as the highest of goals. By the word force, I am suggesting a programme. It served for the evacuation of the Jews in Poland, and in the history of the 'Exodus'... To apply this programme we must, instead of providing 'displaced persons' with comfort, create the greatest possible discomfort for them...At a second stage, a procedure calling upon the Haganah to harass the Jews.
It is ironic that the Zionists proclaim their State as the safe haven for the Jewish People, when since World War II no place on earth has been as dangerous for Jews, both spiritually and physically, as the Zionist state.
The Zionists worked relentlessly to create fear among Jews in the Arab countries after the Zionist state was established. Their tactic work most successfully in Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia.
It is common knowledge among Iraqi Jews that during 1949-1950 the famous Zionist, Mordechai ben Porat, who had the nickname of Morad Abu al-Knabel (Mordechai Bomber), was instrumental in seeking to bribe Iraqi officials after the creation of the Zionist state to pass laws to encourage Jews to leave Iraq. This was enhanced by the Zionists planting bombs in synagogues in Baghdad in March 1950. Information about this is readily available on the internet.
Read The Jews of Iraq by Naim Giladi, a first hand account of violence and intimidation of Iraqi Jews to leave their homeland.
The writings of Mr. Naim Giladi document in detail what the Zionists did in Baghdad in 1950 to provoke the departure of the Jews to the Zionist state. The Zionists do not care what effect their policies have on the Jewish communities of any country. When they accuse European nations of every sin under the sun, do the Zionists care that this will produce hostility towards Jews? No! Not a bit. On the contrary, as we have discussed, they thrive on such circumstances, clinging to the vain hope that these Jewish communities will rush for the “salvation” of the “safe haven” of the Zionist Paradise where Jews are in constant danger as the Zionist regime undertakes every form of cruel provocation against non-Jews.
Horrifying Accusations of Violence and Intimidation
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In more recent times the Zionists have sought every opportunity to encourage Jews to leave their home countries. Anytime there is even the smallest event of hostility toward Jews on the heels of Zionist policy, or if there are signs of economic distress and dislocation, the Zionists magnify it a thousand times, seek to ruthlessly humiliate the nations involved, and agitate for Jews to go to the Zionist state, the so-called “natural home” of the Jewish People. This has been the case in countries such as France, Argentina, Uruguay, the former Soviet Union and Egypt.
The promises of the Torah are always to be realized. This verse from the Torah demonstrates that those who are his enemies will pay a price when The kingdom of G-D will prevail.
Deuteronomy 32:43: Praise his People, O Nations: For he will avenge the blood of his servants. He will render vengeance against his adversaries and make expiation for his land and his People.
Sources:
- Guardian Volume two Issue 7
- Satmar Grand Rebbe Joel Teitelbaum
- The Jews of Batna, Aleria: A Study of Identity and Colonialism by Elizabeth Friedman.
- The Jewish Communities of Morocco and the AIU by M. Laskier, State University, Albany, N.Y.
- The Impact of Western European Education on the Jewish Millet of Baghdad by Maurice Sawdayee.
- Outcaste Jewish Life in Southern Iran by Laurence D. Loeb. Gordon and Breach.
- The Last Arab Jews. The Communities of Jerba, Tunisia by Abraham Udovitch and Lucette Valensi. Harwood Academic Publishers.
- The GENOCIDE IN THE HOLY LAND (available for purchase on the site)
- Ben Gurion's Scandals by Naeim Giladi (available for purchase on the site)
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Before I get labeled an anti-semite...
since I have already been branded with the B word...let me please invite everyone to read the entire thread between Maryland Gal, myself, and others. I have never, nor would I ever, compare any of the Jewish race to Hitler, nor would I compare abortion to what Hitler did (other than in the general sense I believe both to be murder). That being said, the point I was trying to make is that when morals decline and the moral compass turns and what used to be unacceptable and horrific becomes acceptable, people like Hitler can rise up and convince thousands of people that it is all right to exterminate a race of people simply because they believe them to be inferior or subhuman. It happened once and it could happen again. And it starts as people begin to rationalize things like abortion. And assisted suicide. And euthanasia (check out how Holland handles euthanasia right now today and you will see what I mean). That was my only point entirely. I certainly do not hate the Jewish people. I certainly do not minimize what happened to them, nothing can compare with how horrific that was. Many American soldiers died fighting to stop it. That is what America does. We point at what we believe to be wrong and say so. At least we used to. I am just concerned that the less we point and the more we turn our heads, the worse it will be for us, especially with the threat facing us today. And what Maryland Gal needs to understand is I am not pointing at her and I am not pointing at the Jewish faith. I am pointing at a practice I believe to be wrong, which I still believe to be wrong.
Yes, but there is a difference being anti-Obama...
because of his politics and where he wants to take the country than being anti-Obama because of the color of his skin. These "nuts" could not care less about his politics. If a black man (or lack woman for that matter) had run on the Republican side they would be in the same danger. This is about the color of his skin...and now that he has picked as his chief of staff a militant pro-Israel Jew...talk about inflaming the "nuts." Again, I do not say that Obama should not have chosen Emanuel for that reason, and I don't think he should hide in the shadows. However, I DO think he should listen to the Secret Service and do what they tell him. I wish him no harm and pray for the safety of he and his family, and for those who are charged with his protection.
Anti-Christian posts
And your post linking swastikas and racial slurs to Christians wasn't spewing hate? You'd better look in a mirror.
There are a lot of anti-smoking laws
I did not realize this was an old campaign. It seemed like a modern idea when the surgeon general came out in 1969 against smoking.
anti-obama question
Can I ask you anti-obama folks, why don't you like him? Is it something personal? May sound simple, but I don't get it. Do you feel he is not qualified? Too young? Not born in US? Wrong color? I am serious about this. What's your gripe?
Whose in charge of this anti-IQ crusade?
An ineffective tactic to use to try to excuse a sitting president's white matter deficit.
Because the repubs are anti abortion nm
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Yea, right...those anti-war Dems really stepping up
US drones have already bombed Pakistan, so no doubt Obama has already ordered that. The democrats squeal foul play until they're holding the bag and then it's a free for all with those bombs. Funny THEY don't mind bombing anyone. But, of course, Obama lovers will of course be able to justify HIS actions.....they always do. Can't blame this one on Bush.......
Anti Gay (and USA) Protests to Hit Key West
I read a daily blog on Key West real estate and today's posting happened to be on a slightly different subject.
Apparently Fred Phelps and his minions are planning on a trip to Key West to demonstrate their hate of not only gay people but the USA.
Can we take them down as the terrorist organization they are yet? One of his cohorts is already down there:
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The Key West community will meet tonight to decide whether -- and if so, how -- to respond to a nationally infamous man who hates homosexuals.
The Rev. Fred Phelps, head of the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, is scheduled to be in Key West on May 22 to protest the Gay/Straight Alliance at Key West High School. Phelps also is planning to demonstrate at the entrance to the island, in front of Sigsbee Park and at B'Nai Zion synagogue, according to a letter Phelps' daughter sent to Police Chief Donie Lee.
The group is planning an outdoor demonstration "regarding the judgment of God with respect to the dangers of promoting homosexuality, and the rest of the filthy manner of life and idol worshipping in this country," the letter states. The city does not require a permit for such assemblies.
Phelps' church is not recognized by mainstream Baptists and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League as a hate group. His "church" comprises mostly his family members, about 60 of whom are said to protest three times a day, with signs that read, "God Hates Fags" and other anti-homosexual slurs. The church also protests at military funerals, claiming the deaths are the result of America's tolerance of homosexuality.
The Rev. Joe McMurray, pastor of the gay-friendly Metropolitan Community Church, where tonight's meeting will be held, said he does not think that Anthony Charles Capo Jr., who often holds a sign that says "God Hates Fags.com" on Key West street corners, is formally connected with the Kansas group.
Meeting organizers will solicit ideas from community members and law enforcement officials, said McMurray. The gathering will include the police chief, Schools Superintendent Randy Acevedo and some city commissioners.
"We can come together and decide if there will be a response, and what it would be," McMurray said. "We'll also hear from law enforcement to see what they prefer in the interest of public safety."
The Police Department is developing an operational plan for Phelps' demonstration, but Lee emphasized that the general public should ignore Phelps.
"I know it's difficult and I know, firsthand, that it's an emotional issue, but as far as I'm concerned, that's the way to deal with it," said Lee, who is gay. Any demonstrations from counter-protesters would only make it more difficult for officers to keep the peace, Lee said.
Phelps' First Amendment rights allow him and his followers to express their opinions, and the police cannot arrest them for doing so.
Lee explained that if someone says something that directly creates a public safety issue, then the situation changes. He used the example of someone yelling "fire" in a crowded theater as an example that would jeopardize public safety and therefore be an arrestable offense.
"Short of that, people have the right to express their opinion," Lee said.
McMurray said he does not know what prompted Phelps to target the high school group in a town known for its acceptance of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people, and its official motto of "One Human Family."
"I don't know if anybody has the 'why' behind Fred Phelps," McMurray said. "He wants to come disrupt, create unease and disturb the peace in a peace-loving community, and he raises money by suing municipalities who violate his civil rights during protests. He intimidates communities."
McMurray and others hope to hear ideas that would turn Phelps' protest into something positive for the community. One option would be a fundraiser for every hour that Phelps is here. People could make an hourly pledge to local charities such as AIDS Help and the Gay and Lesbian Community Center, so the longer Phelps remained in town, the more money he would help raise for gay-friendly service organizations.
"This cannot be personal," said McMurray, who is gay. "Once it becomes personal, we're operating on his level."
J.T. Thompson, a graphic designer who founded the "One Human Family" movement, emphasized that confrontation with Phelps and his group will not serve any purpose.
"This guy earns a living making confrontations happen," Thompson said. "It will be a good day in the fact that we can unite people here. The meeting will gather input to unite the community in a peaceful, positive and loving response."
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