ACORN gets bashed because they are a FRAUD!
Posted By: and admittedly so, smartypants. nm on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: This is the reason repubs are trying to bash Acorn sm - you probably voted for BUSH
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ACORN has already admitted to fraud.
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Yes, O and his friends ACORN are a fraud, but at
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Acorn voter fraud in Detroit...
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383
Google ACORN and voter fraud....
they have a political arm who Democrats use to register new Democratic voters. Problem is, they use illegal tactics to do so. Four under indictment in Missouri from 2006; right now Detroit is investigating voter fraud because of fraudulent registrations, all submitted by ACORN.
Obama used to be their lawyer back in Chicago. He trained their operatives during annual conventions. That is a matter of record. He failed to publish $800,000 in donations from them, recently corrected by his campaign.
ACORN bribing voter fraud with cigarettes
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Google voter fraud 2000, voter fraud 2004 and
The pubs have been down this road before.
I know I will be bashed for this but am going to say it anyway.
And, before I go further, this is happening on both sides. I am an ind. and am still undecided which way I am going, this is just an observation that I started with last week and it is finishng up this. It has been going on for years, it is nothing new.
The candidates say children are off limits, and they should be, I am not disputing that at all. Yet, they have no problem "pimping" (I know not a very good choice of words, but somewhat apt) them out to meet their needs.
Last week, Obama's kids were up there and Biden's family too; though his children are older - does that make them fair game then, but either way the grandkids were on stage. Now, we see Pallin's kids up on stage and I am sure tonight McCain's kids will be front and center.
I don't think anybody should be attacking these kids, but why is we cannot ask any questions at all about the children or the candidate and their spouses about how they are going to balance work and family life, but they think it is okay to bring them up on stage and say, "See, what a happy and beautiful family we are."
The hypocrisy of the politicians is so thick, I need a scalpel to cut it. Again, this is on both sides and has been going on for election after election. Again, we should not be probing into these kids lives and attacking them, Chelsea Clinton unfortunately had it happen to her and now Bristol Palin is going through it.
It just begs the question of if you don't want your kids brought into the political rhetoric, why bring them out for all to see on a huge political stage, in front of millions of people.
HYPOCRISY!!
Oh, and I still don't know which way to vote.
I'm sure I will get bashed for this
but as a believer.....your comment really sent chills down my spine and not in a good way.
"The sleeping giant is stirring and a youthful new leader has emerged to restore us to the greatest nation in history."
I may get bashed for this
Here is what I am thinking - and remember- I am canadian so my perspective is looking from the outside in.
I think this entire campaign is showing that perhaps the USA is really not "the greatest country in the world".
This campaign seems to be showing people for what they really are. I get CNN and I get Fox - I get the perspective from both sides as well as being accessable to everything on the net. I have never seen so much hate - not since the historical events of ww2- and the effects of this I see every day.
I thought the US was a country where if you work hard enough you will be rewarded.
It breaks my heart to see a candidate being judged by the colour of his skin - not for his education or his person - but the colour of his skin. It breaks my heart that racism is alive and kicking after so much recent history.
In my opinion - Barrack Obama and his lovely well spoken wife would be a breath of fresh air that America needs. The US needs to regain its reputation as the greatest country in the world - he is intelligent, has worked for everything he has earned - is young, fresh and vibrant - he would be a hero to those who need it most - you can come from nothing and work your way to something.
You don't have to be an old white man from an "old boys" club that has been hired to be a puppet for the big businesses of the west.
S0orry if I offended but I really need to say this- the entire campaign is on every news channel in the entire world - all eyes are on the US and it is not playing out very nice - it has become sad and pathetic.
I know we get bashed for
fear mongering on here, but I truly am terrified of what has become and what is becoming of our great country. Other than storming D.C. with pitch forks and torches....I really don't know what to do. I can write letters as much as I want to any given politician and they are still going to do what their party wants them to or do whatever special interest group wants them to do. Our government is so corrupt, in my opinion, it isn't funny. I truly don't think that we have seen the worst yet, but I fear we will. I just keep hoping and praying that I'm wrong!
I'm not MT and I haved not bashed
and you just called me gay (below) like some kind of fifth grader that doesn't know what to say when they aren't intelligent enough to debate...real mature.
Seems like y'all are obssessed with calling people you don't like gay like John Roberts. I thought you all supported gay people. I guess not.
I'll probably be bashed for this but
from experience, I know Phila. is very racist(black against white). I've been called all sorts of names when I lived there. Couldn't wait to come back home.
Bush Bashed by Republicans
At the same conference Karl Rove's comments were leaked, President Bush was bashed for two full days, according to participant Robert Novak. He was taken to task on his handling of stem cell research, population control, the Iraq war and, especially, Hurricane Katrina. The critics were no left-wing bloggers. They were rich, mainly Republican and presumably Bush voters in the last two presidential elections.
Though the conference sessions were off-the-record, Novak says the admonition says nothing about personal conversations outside the sessions. Nor do I feel inhibited in quoting myself. Even if I am violating the spirit of secrecy rules, revealing criticism of Bush by this elite group, and the paucity of defense for him, is valuable in reflecting the president's parlous political condition.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire says a Bush adviser frets about increased 'cutting and running' by Republican candidates through the 2006 elections.
They do try to talk about the issues and get bashed for
their opinions.
I, for one, thought it was funny. Before the election, I also stated that if O was elected, I would be quitting my job 'cause I was tired of working and wanted some of the free money. That was also a joke. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't work. Workaholic, ya know.
And when things are pointed out, people are bashed.
What's the use? Anyone who doesn't believe the O will do what he states is bashed. It was a joke (maybe), but jeez. Get a life.
Most OPs know he is a fraud. SM
A statement from the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council |
© Indian Country Today February 04, 2005. All Rights Reserved |
Posted: February 04, 2005 |
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Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, and Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa -- Guest columnists
Ward Churchill was scheduled to speak at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y.on Feb. 3. His appearance was canceled by the college after he caused a public furor over his loathsome remarks about the 9/11 tragedy in New York. AIM's Grand Governing Council has been dealing with Churchill's hateful attitude and rip-off of Indian people for years.
The American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council representing the National and International leadership of the American Indian Movement once again is vehemently and emphatically repudiating and condemning the outrageous statements made by academic literary and Indian fraud, Ward Churchill in relationship to the 9/11 tragedy in New York City that claimed thousands of innocent people's lives.
Churchill's statement that these people deserved what happened to them, and calling them ''little Eichmanns,'' comparing them to Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann who implemented Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate European Jews and others, should be condemned by all.
The sorry part of this is Ward Churchill has fraudulently represented himself as an Indian, and a member of the American Indian Movement, a situation that has lifted him into the position of a lecturer on Indian activism. He has used the American Indian Movement's chapter in Denver to attack the leadership of the official American Indian Movement with his misinformation and propaganda campaigns.
Ward Churchill has been masquerading as an Indian for years behind his dark glasses and beaded headband. He waves around an honorary membership card that at one time was issued to anyone by the Keetoowah Tribe of Oklahoma. Former President Bill Clinton and many others received these cards, but these cards do not qualify the holder a member of any tribe. He has deceitfully and treacherously fooled innocent and naive Indian community members in Denver, Colo., as well as many other people worldwide. Churchill does not represent, nor does he speak on behalf of the American Indian Movement.
New York's Hamilton College Kirklands Project should be aware that in their search for truth and justice, the idea that they have hired a fraud to speak on Indian activism is in itself a betrayal of their goals.
Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, is chairman of the Board of the American Indian Movement. Nee Gon Nway Wee Dung, a.k.a., Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa, is the National executive director of the American Indian Movement. For more information, write to Ministry for Information, P.O. Box 13521, Minneapolis, MN 55414; call (612) 721-3914 ; e-mail aimggc@worldnet.att.net or visit www.aimovement.org. |
Fraud ??
This article doesn't mention fraud of any sort. We will have to see how it plays out.
Do you really want to get into campaign fraud?
You really don't want to, because the left has a corner on that market One example is the DNC registering dead people in Detroit. You know, we could tit for tat all day long about these things, but the conspiracy that elections are fixed is just that, a conspiracy.
Your energies would best be served by trying to help the the schizophrenic Democratic party finding a unified vision and an action plan other than dissing the Republicans. It's not our fault you're losing it's yours. The article you posted proves that energies are being wasted on the wrong things. But really, I don't care if you lose just so you do.
It's called fraud
I happened to get a call from the police in Arizona a few months ago. I have always lived in Ohio. It seems someone (several someones actually) had LISTS of people across the country of personal info, account numbers, passwords, email addresses, etc. pretty much everything you need, even machines to make the credit cards and license IDs. Arizona puts the fraudsters away just for having this info without your permission. Apparently they had a large fraud bust out there and they don't waste their time on proving what they did with it. YEA ARIZONA!
Joe the P is just another repub FRAUD
just one of many many many and the sheep who won't open their eyes to the mess the repubs have made will never learn
Voter fraud by democrats ...sm
Being a big problem is a huge myth put forth by repubs. Don't believe Fox News and the like. Just Google it. The extent of the problem has been wildly exaggerated. (I wish I could find the link I had on this because it was nonpartisan, but I didn't save it.)
Now if you want to talk about voter suppression fraud OTOH, the Repubs are experts on that. Here's one article:
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Using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, the GOP has propagated the myth of voter fraud to purge the rolls of non-Republicans.
Read it at:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting
O is not under investigation for voter fraud
First of all, "voter fraud" is a bit hard to prove BEFORE the election. ACORN has been targeted by right-wingers for the past 38 years, since the day of its inception. While I do not condone it, this comes as no surprise that poverty-stricken workers who are paid by the signature and have quotas would turn in falsified statements. Barack Obama did not tell them to do that.
Nobody is swallowing anything, including your deluded ramblings. Those soup kitchen patrons, rock concert audiences and homeless are American voters with much more human dignity than you are able to display. We do not live under a Nazi fascist system. Their votes are equal to yours.
The kind of hatred you hold says a lot about you. You have a flock mentality. Original thought or ideas are beyond our grasp. It takes a lot of energy to harbor that kind of hate. Your life will be cursed until you let that go, and your campaign will be doomed to failure if you give Americans so little credit as to think that anyone in their right mind would want to join you and subscribe to such trash.
By the way, just how is McCain going to fix that pesky economic crisis you are trying so diligently to avoid acknowledging?
Voter fraud does not register with SS# and
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If Obama is discovered to be a fraud later, all his
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Obama being a possible fraud as president
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Food stamp fraud
Please don't think I am accusing everyone who gets public assistance of this. Many people who get the assistance really need it, and I have a friend who is an example.
But there is also a subculture involved here. People can qualify for food stamps who have undocumented income, under-the-table earnings, and even money from criminal activity. They don't actually need the food stamps to eat, but they get them.
Back when food stamps were actual coupons, there used to be a thriving black market in buying and selling food stamps for a percentage of their cash value. Then the money could be used for tobacco, alcohol, drugs and other things. Maybe the new debit card system put a stop to this, maybe not. The money goes into your account every month. All it would take is lending your card and sharing your PIN number with someone. My friend has never been asked for ID.
And if the object of this assistance is to feed (and I think by that we mean nourish) people, is it right for parents to stuff their kids full of twinkies, chips and Pepsi with the food stamp money? What the kids need is nourishment, not junk. What we end up with is another poorly nourished, hyperactive generation that cannot concentrate and learn in school, then cannot hold down an adequate job, and the cycle repeats itself.
In the county where I live, if you are on public health assistance and get pregnant you have to comply with a whole host of requirements. Parenting classes, classes on prenatal nutrition, classes on how to take care of an infant, regular checkups, drug tests, classes on contraception, etc. You should consider this a job. We are paying you to have a healthy baby, and these are your duties. Women scream about this being degrading, and an invasion of their privacy.
But honestly, if you accept the assistance, why would you assume there should be no strings? Why would you assume you don't have to jump through some hoops to get it? Do you expect to be left alone until the day of delivery, get a free stay in the hospital, and go your merry way? Can't we assume that since this is your second illegetimate pregnancy, you don't really know what's causing it? Or you forgot and need to repeat the class?
These types of assistance are supposed to be an investment society makes in improving the situation. Used properly, they can be. But often they are considered just another entitlement. *Just gimme the money and get outta my face.*
GAO Report indicates possible 2004 election fraud
GAO Report indicates possible election fraud
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lyn-l...-c_b_11483.htmlPowerful Government Accountability Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman October 26, 2005 As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.
The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the Government Accountability Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage. The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its thorough, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as conspiracy theories adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House. Nearly a year ago, senior Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers (D-MI) asked the GAO to investigate electronic voting machines as they were used during the November 2, 2004 presidential election. The request came amidst widespread complaints in Ohio and elsewhere that often shocking irregularities defined their performance. According to CNN, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee received more than 57,000 complaints following Bush's alleged re-election. Many such concerns were memorialized under oath in a series of sworn statements and affidavits in public hearings and investigations conducted in Ohio by the Free Press and other election protection organizations. The non-partisan GAO report has now found that, some of [the] concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes. The United States is the only major democracy that allows private partisan corporations to secretly count and tabulate the votes with proprietary non-transparent software. Rev. Jesse Jackson, among others, has asserted that public elections must not be conducted on privately-owned machines. The CEO of one of the most crucial suppliers of electronic voting machines, Warren O'Dell of Diebold, pledged before the 2004 campaign to deliver Ohio and thus the presidency to George W. Bush. Bush's official margin of victory in Ohio was just 118,775 votes out of more than 5.6 million cast. Election protection advocates argue that O'Dell's statement still stands as a clear sign of an effort, apparently successful, to steal the White House. Among other things, the GAO confirms that: 1. Some electronic voting machines did not encrypt cast ballots or system audit logs, and it was possible to alter both without being detected. In other words, the GAO now confirms that electronic voting machines provided an open door to flip an entire vote count. More than 800,000 votes were cast in Ohio on electronic voting machines, some seven times Bush's official margin of victory. 2. It was possible to alter the files that define how a ballot looks and works so that the votes for one candidate could be recorded for a different candidate. Numerous sworn statements and affidavits assert that this did happen in Ohio 2004. 3. Vendors installed uncertified versions of voting system software at the local level. 3. Falsifying election results without leaving any evidence of such an action by using altered memory cards can easily be done, according to the GAO. 4. The GAO also confirms that access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network. This critical finding confirms that rigging the 2004 vote did not require a widespread conspiracy but rather the cooperation of a very small number of operatives with the power to tap into the networked machines and thus change large numbers of votes at will. With 800,000 votes cast on electronic machines in Ohio, flipping the number needed to give Bush 118,775 could be easily done by just one programmer. 5. Access to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords. So even relatively amateur hackers could have gained access to and altered the Ohio vote tallies. 6. The locks protecting access to the system were easily picked and keys were simple to copy, meaning, again, getting into the system was an easy matter. 7. One DRE model was shown to have been networked in such a rudimentary fashion that a power failure on one machine would cause the entire network to fail, re-emphasizing the fragility of the system on which the Presidency of the United States was decided. 8. GAO identified further problems with the security protocols and background screening practices for vendor personnel, confirming still more easy access to the system. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05956.pdf
The purpose of investigating voter fraud...sm
It is not to be able to go back and forth, but to get to the core of the problems and solve them. On this board, you will see articles about voter fraud against liberal voters. That's not saying it doesn't happen on both sides, but which do you think WE are concerned about.
Stay tuned - vote fraud. sm
There are reports from polling stations from volunteers observing vote counts for Obama and Paul that state people from the Clinton camp were throwing them out. 16 precincts in Iowa are still missing. Sutton County NH reported 0 votes for Ron Paul and people coming forward to say they voted for him. I smell a rat. Paul and Obama will not get the nomination because they will not let them.
Explain what you want fixed? The voter fraud
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I am ready to talk voter fraud with a pub
You can cry wolf 'til the cows come home on this, but it's not going to change those poll numbers except maybe in a downward direction. People are fixated on the one topic your candidate refuses to talk about. Your smear campaign is so intense that we all have smear fatigue by now and even if you could dig up any sort of legitimate attack, nobody outside the choir is listening. Don't you get that?
Have you heard him condemn election fraud?
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Obama is a fraud and a radical, but the people will
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Illinois isn't the only state with political fraud
The U.S. Attorney brought a case against former Sen. Vince Fumo of PA. He was found guilty today of 137 counts of corruption! They are holding the bail hearing now to see if he should go straight to jail. Even the governor was supoened to testify.
Sure wish they would start an investigation against him, too, as he probably did the same things, especially with the way he takes care of only certain groups. Hope this link works.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20090316_Fumo_judge_allows_Twittering_juror_to_stay_on_panel_.html
Cutting waste, fraud and abuse...They should be
Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud
Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud |
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| ALEXANDRIA, Va. A former government contractor was charged with fraud Tuesday for handing out top access ID badges in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone (search) to an Iraqi girlfriend and others not entitled to have them.
Thomas N. Barnes III, 48, of Fort Worth, Texas, a former employee of contractor DynCorp (search), was arrested Tuesday morning at Dulles International Airport (search).
Barnes was freed on his own recognizance following a brief initial appearance in federal court. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Thursday. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison.
Attempts to reach Barnes were not immediately successful Tuesday.
According to court records, Barnes produced access badges for people authorized to enter the Green Zone, where security is especially tight after militants vowed last week to launch an attack in the zone.
DynCorp administers the badge program under a $7.7 million military contract. Greg Lagana, a spokesman for the Irving, Texas, company, said Barnes was fired and withdrawn from Iraq, and the company is confident that Barnes' actions were an isolated incident.
People seeking access to the Green Zone, or International Zone, apply for a badge and undergo a security check. Applicants cleared for access then receive a badge in one of eight colors to reflect high or low-level access. |
I beleive this fraud exists, and we are up the creek without a paddle until... sm
it is investigated and rectified.
If the voting machines are republican owned then you have republicans getting 83% of the vote even in heavily democratic areas. There is definitely a problem and this needs investigating.
Ruling on Ohio voter fraud.....hmmmmm
http://thurbersthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/breaking-federal-court-says-ohio.html
So voter fraud in ང doesn't count?
Voter fraud of this organization is only the tip of the problem. This is a corrupt organization in so many other ways, it should be very troubling to everyone but because so many of you who want Obama in office regardless of the consequences don't even want to hear the involvements he is in, is the very reason we are on a path of ignorance.
This organization is involved in so much garbage it should be shut down altogether and probably will after the election but as long as Obama is still in the running, no democrat wants to actually go after them for obvious reasons. But even the democrats will go after them when the election is over. Many of them despise this group.
One that doesn't care if it takes voter fraud to
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Pubs wrote the book on voter fraud.
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Ridiculous. Robin Hood Obama is the fraud here.
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"who cares"? If he is lying/fraud, I care.
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Obama campaign launches voter fraud web site
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-campaign-launches-voter-fraud-web.html
Explain this: credit card fraud from Obama campaign
ct 14 2008 12:00AM http://sayanythingblog.com/index.php
Keep a close eye on your credit card bills this election season lest you end up paying for a contribution you didnt approve to a political candidate you dont support
A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam
Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month ? a $2300 donation to Barack Obama?s presidential campaign. The Larman?s say they don?t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they?re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook
They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud
?(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,? said Steve Larman. ?It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.? The Larman?s don?t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans
?They (Chase) kept on asking me ?are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama?,? said Rachel Larman. ?And I repeatedly said ?Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site?.?
Chase dropped the charge from the Larman?s card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it?s too late.
This wasnt just some random prankster. $2,300 is the exact amount of the maximum any individual can give to a federal candidate for office
He has shown a short-form fraud piece of garbage. I
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Sham: a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax. No spellcheck needed.
Maybe you should stop worrying about petty bunk and face the issues.
SHAM!
Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud ...sm
Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud
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NORTH Kansas CITY, MO. -- A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam.
Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month -- a $2300 donation to Barack Obama's presidential campaign. The Larman's say they don't want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they're not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.
They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.
"(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this," said Steve Larman. "It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations."
The Larman's don't want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.
"They (Chase) kept on asking me 'are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama'," said Rachel Larman. "And I repeatedly said 'Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site'."
Chase dropped the charge from the Larman's card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it's too late.
"You always get emails saying be on the lookout," said Rachel. "So I just wanted to get the word out, that there's someone out there perpetrating this against people, and to pay attention."
The Obama campaign said they were aware of the Larman's story, but did not have any comment.
Megan Cloherty, FOX 4 News
I do. Leaves the door wide open for blatant health care fraud..
ACORN
I heard on the news that ACORN also received some money in the bailout package, put in by democrats!! Guess who was involved with ACORN...
ACORN
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now....... the nation's largest community organization of low and moderate income families working ...
Don't be fooled by the last part about working. While they have done some good for some people, they are mostly about getting votes. They have had many of their people indicted for voter fraud. THey are up again for investigation for this very same thing. Obama has thrown over $800,000 to them to help hire more people to get on the streets and coerce folks into registering to vote, even if they are already registered.
They have been found to fradulently doctor papers to appear as a registered voter, including deceased, homeless, even nonexistent names and addresses.
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