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'and a very apt description of where they are heading! LOL nm

Posted By: sm on 2009-04-29
In Reply to: Yeah. Their **big tent* is now about the size - and smell of a **porta-potty**.

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We are heading toward a civil war of a magnitude we cannot foresee

Never in my lifetime have issues gotten so ugly/hateful.  This will be the first illegal election in history if Sen. Obama is elected.  People do not care that he does not meet the requirements to be President.  They will go against the constitution just to get him elected.  Why?  I know there are a lot of people who would like Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for President.  If Obama who is not a native born, and is possibly not even a US Citizen can be elected and have the constitution violated for him, then we should be able to do it for Gov. Schwarzenegger.  There are so many people who will say we have to protect the constitution, yet they’ll turn a blind eye when it comes to electing someone who is not an American born, and who is possibly still a citizen of Indonesia (forget that he is Muslin, I don’t care about his religion, he may possibly be a citizen of another country).  We have a candidate who is so busy running around like a chicken with his head cut off suppressing the truth from Americans, and there are Americans attacking others (no that that girl with a B in her face – I hope she is prosecuted for what she has done), but others who attack (verbally and physically) anyone who is not allowing this lie to proceed.  Mr. Obama was supposed to be checked out thoroughly before he could run and the DNC failed to do that.  Mr. Obama is calling for the health records of all candidates, yet he won’t release his own.  Sorry but a one-page statement from his doctor saying Mr. Obama is healthy, that's all you need to know, with no details whatsoever (and from someone whose parents died at a young age and he smoked his whole life and took drugs and drank) the American people have a right to know this – especially since their side is pushing to have Palin & McCains “full” records be known to the public and people are screaming and shouting its their right to know the full health records of the republicans, shouldn’t that go for Obama too?  Then there is the issue of his school records.  Why is he desperately trying to suppress those.  Most likely it will show he is a citizen of Indonesia and never became a US Citizen.  You know if a democrat president is elected fine, just let it be a legal one.  Follow the constitution and not this love-fest everyone is sharing towards Obama.  Some good democrats that would make fine presidnets are Richardson & Kucinich.  I'd even be okay with Edwards.


But I say we are heading toward a civil war because we have people already threatening that if Obama does not win there will be “riots in the streets like we haven’t seen”, but if he is elected and it is illegal there will be riots of another kind.  You are going to have so many Americans angry and disenfranchised with the government that if you thought the Boston Tea Party was ugly this will be worse.


Then we have the issue of the every day American citizens.  We are suffering.  There’s no doubt about it.  We are heading into a depression (do not blame Bush for the whole thing as it started its downward spiral under the Carter administration and continued through the Clinton administration, and yes some republicans are to blame), but Americans are suffering.  We are losing our jobs, our homes, cannot afford to send our kids to college, let alone buy gas and groceries or go to the doctor.  More and more people’s savings are being wiped out and their retirement plans are worthless.  Yet the politicians (both republican AND democrat) are getting richer and richer.  The latest saying in the Washington political scene is “if you were not a millionaire before you came in you will be one when you leave”.  Politicians are no longer working for the American people; they are working for themselves and their rich friends and against us.  They don’t care about us - they don’t care one iota.  They have made so many loopholes to protect themselves and have lied so many times they are covering their lies with lies and saying exactly what they think we want to hear.


All I say is if Sen. Obama is elected, the election will be a fraud, the office of President will be a fraud, and with the three branches of office (house, senate, and president) ALL being democrat, he will not be impeached for fraud and they will continue on with their illegal activities.  And the country will see a civil distress.  Why should we abide by laws when our government doesn’t.


People need to wake up.  The constitution is being violated and they are all okay with that.  It’s all very sickening.  I just think its disgraceful that people would rather see our country destroyed than to elect Senator McCain.  Sure I wish it was someone else (R. Paul, M. Romney, D. Hunter or any of the others, but its not).  If McCain gets in don’t worry, it will only be four years and then another election will be held and maybe this time a candidate will be chosen on the democratic side that is legal.  That is of course if the Mayan calendar is wrong.


Not as scary as the the aircraft carriers now heading for Iran.


http://www.rawstory.com/


US military, intelligence officials raise concern about possible preparations for Iran strike


05/11/2006 @ 10:53 am


Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna


Use of Iraq terror group bypassed Congress, sources say


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Concern is building among the military and the intelligence community that the US may be preparing for a military strike on Iran, as military assets in key positions are approaching readiness, RAW STORY has learned.


According to military and intelligence sources, an air strike on Iran could be doable in June of this year, with military assets in key positions ready to go and a possible plan already on the table.


Speculation has been growing on a possible air strike against Iran. But with the failure of the Bush administration to present a convincing case to the UN Security Council and to secure political backing domestically, some experts say the march toward war with Iran is on pause barring an immediate need.


In March/April of this year [the US] was pushing for quick closure, a thirty day window, says a source close to the UN Security Council, describing efforts by the Administration to shore up enough support to get a UN Chapter 7 resolution.


A UN Chapter 7 resolution makes it possible for sanctions to be imposed against an uncooperative nation and leaves the door open to military action.


The UN source also says that a military analysis suggests that no military action should be undertaken in Iran until spring of 2007, but that things remain volatile given this administration’s penchant for having their own way.


Strike could come earlier than thought


Other military and intelligence sources are expressing concern both privately and publicly that air strikes on Iran could come earlier than believed.


Retired Air Force Colonel and former faculty member at the National War College Sam Gardiner has heard some military suggestions of a possible air campaign in the near future, and although he has no intimate knowledge of such plans, he says recent aircraft carrier activity and current operations on the ground in Iran have raised red flags.


Gardiner says his concerns have kept him busy attempting to create the most likely scenario should such an attack occur.


I would expect two or three aircraft carriers would be moved into the area, Gardner said, describing what he thinks is the best way air strikes could be carried out without disengaging assets from US fronts in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Two air-craft carriers are already en route to the region, RAW STORY has found. The USS Abraham Lincoln, which recently made a port call in Singapore, and the USS Enterprise which left Norfolk, Virginia earlier this month, are headed for the Western Pacific and Middle East. The USS Ronald Reagan is already operating in the Gulf.


In addition to aircraft carrier activity, Gardiner says, B-2 bombers would be critical.


I would expect the B-2's, the main firepower asset, to be flown on missions directly from the United States, Gardiner explained. I would expect B-52's to be flown in strikes from the UK and Diego Garcia.


Finally, he added, a large number of cruise missiles would be fired from the carrier support ships.


Steven Aftergood, senior research analyst at the Federation of American Scientists, says that the B-2 bomber is capable of such long range activity.


The B2 bomber was designed, with the Soviet Union in mind, for intercontinental operations, Aftergood said. With aerial refueling, it has a range of up to 10,000 miles.


Like Gardiner, Aftergood has heard similar claims with regard to a June strike, but has not been able to confirm them independently.


Intelligence sources confirm hearing the allegations of a June attack, but have been unable to fully confirm that such an attack is in the works. Both the New Yorker and the Washington Post have previously reported that the Pentagon is studying military options on Iran.


All sources, however, agree that given the administration’s interest in regime change, an attack on Iran is likely, regardless of international support or UN backing. Furthermore, all sources agree that Gardiner’s scenario is the most probable, including an estimated duration and pause assessment.


Gardiner believes that the entire initial operation could run quickly, roughly 24-72 hours. Most of the strikes would be at night, he said. The Iranian nuclear facilities will be targeted; more important however, a major effort would focus on Iran's capability to retaliate. The US will target missile facilities, air bases and naval assets.


After the initial effort, there will be a pause during which time the Iranians will be told that if they retaliate, the air strikes would continue, he added.


The Pentagon did not return calls for comment.


Advance teams under way; Congress ‘bypassed’


As previously reported by Raw Story, a terrorist organization known as Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK) is being used on the ground in Iran by the Pentegon, bypassing US intelligence channels. The report was subsequently covered by the Asia Times (Article).


Military and intelligence sources now say no Presidential finding exists on MEK ops. Without a presidential finding, the operation circumvents the oversight of the House and Senate Intelligence committees.


Congressional aides for the relevant oversight committees would not confirm or deny allegations that no Presidential finding had been done. One Democratic aide, however, wishing to remain anonymous for this article, did say that any use of the MEK would be illegal.


In addition, sources say that a March attack that killed 22 Iranian officials in the province of Sistan va Baluchistan was carried out by the MEK.


According to a report by Iran Focus filed Mar. 23, the twenty-two people killed in the ambush included high ranking officials, including the governor of Zahedan.


Hours after the attack took place, Ahmadi-Moqaddam announced there was evidence the assailants had held meetings with British intelligence officers, the Iranian news service reported.


Radical Shiite cleric Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi also claimed the people behind the attack were the same as those behind a spate of bombings in Iran’s south-western province of Khuzestan earlier this year and in 2005, it added.


Military and intelligence sources say that MEK assets were responsible for this attack, but did not know if the US military was involved or if US military assets were part of the ambush.


One former high ranking US intelligence official described the use of MEK as more of a Cambone operation than a Department of Defense operation.


Undersecretary of Defense Intelligence Stephen Cambone, a stalwart neo-conservative, is considered by many to be Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s right-hand man.


During a White House briefing in early May, outgoing press secretary Scott McClellan denied that the administration was using MEK, among several other terrorist organizations named, for ground activity in Iran.


There are numerous reports about low-intensity operations ongoing in Iran from three different places -- PKK going over the border into Iraq, the MEK southern border of Iraq into Iran, and also certain operations from Balochistan involving also the Pakistanis, a reporter asked. Does the U.S. have a policy, given also reports which I know you won't comment on, on possible special forces operations in Iran?


Our policies haven't changed on those organizations, McClellan said. They remain the same. And you're bringing up organizations that we view as terrorist organizations.


We would never cooperate with them, in terms of— the questioner continued.


Our policy hasn't changed, McClellan replied.


Military, intelligence community alarmed


According to a New Yorker article by veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, other activities aimed at intimidating and agitating Iranian leadership are also underway.


One military planner told me that White House criticisms of Iran and the high tempo of planning and clandestine activities amount to a campaign of ‘coercion’ aimed at Iran, Hersh wrote.


The increase in violence on the southern border of Iran, the movement of aircraft carriers into the region, the insistence of Iran’s leadership that they intend to be a player on the nuclear stage and the Bush Administration’s focus on regime change make military and intelligence sources nervous.


[President] Bush thinks that history will judge him as a great leader, not unlike Winston Churchill, one former high-ranking military intelligence official remarked.


For now, Gardiner and others remain on the sidelines as the Administration plots their next move.


Obama heading the Fiscal Responsibility Summit is like
Yup, bout sums it up right.
Good description of her.
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Sally, that was the best description of her
'SLUG' - harhar --- LOVE it.
side kick better description

"They" are banking on people's inattention.  Using the technique of repeating a slogan until it sticks.  I think the real problem in our political system is that many voters are too passive to really research and think, just watch the attack ads and go with the slogans.


 


Good description of them - dim bulbs
That's for sure. Right on.
Best description of the Samunist I've read yet.

I love your very spot-on, colorful description!!
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Your description reminds me of our current lousy
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