Why doesn't someone give some good reports on other schools
Posted By: MT on 2006-07-03
In Reply to: There's some MT's that can't even figure out - No schooling
One person on this board constantly rips the so-called Big 3. Instead of doing that, why doesn't she bring some good facts forward about her own school. That would be more productive.
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You can't give an average. Radiology reports
are typically under 10 lines and you can do 100 a day. I do Op notes for a hospital and can have reports that are 25 minutes long. I also have a lot of ESLs and if I have a day where I have the really bad ones or the bad American dictators I don't generate as many reports. If you are doing clinic work you would probably be able to do more reports than acute care, especially if you have the same doctors, because they you could set up macros for them. I generally do 40 reports a day, have done as few as 28, as many as 72, but that doesn't really tell anyone anything.
It really isn't a very good course and doesn't
prepare you enough to get a job. Most who take it have difficulty passng testing with companies and end spending more $$ to take another course of a mentoring program.
AHP doesn't have a very good reputation. SM
I have heard from many MTs who have a VERY hard time finding a job because major companies will not usually accept a newbie from that program. Some smaller MTSOs or offices might, but why make things more difficult? I recommend checking out Andrews, MTEC, or CareerStep. I have no bias towards any of them, just have heard good things about those 3.
Good schools??
How do you determine what is a good reputable school and which one is a waste of money & time?
Thank you!
The Good Schools
Andrews and M-Tec. Career Step is also considered to be a good school. Andrews and M-Tec are the gold standard, the Harvard and Yale, of MT training. Their graduates have no difficulty finding work because employers know those schools turn out job-ready MTs.
There are only two very good schools M-Tec and Andrews.
There are only two schools approved by AAMT. Do you want to work for a national at home? If the answer is yes, then you need to go to a school that is acknowledged by the big services as the best. If you want to work at your community hospital, then you need to go into the community hospital and ask them where they would recommend you get training. Most likely they will not have heard of Andrews or M-Tec, but they may hire from your local community college and then you would be okay with going there.
Accreditation with on-like programs is not the same as with college education. What you are asking for doesn't exist with an excellent program. Places get accredited for their state, but this doesn't mean that they necessarily know anything about MT or even teaching MT. They have the money, and ability to fill out the forms that the teachers have credentials and they use basic materials.
Figure out who you want to employ you and back track. Being able to investigate is a skill necessary for being an MT. Good luck with your decision.
Those aren't the only good schools
I was hired at a national straight out of CS. In fact I had 2 job offers within a couple weeks of finishing the program with zero medical experience prior to that. You don't have to spend a fortune to get a good education.
Good schools to attend that you will not have problems with and
likely be able to get a job upon graduation.
Andrews School - www.andrewsschool.com MTec - www.mtecinc.com Career Step - www.careerstep.com SETT - www.settinc.com
Don't fall for the fly by night schools. What are fly by night schools? Generally, those that advertise all over creation trying to drum up business. Those that rent out halls in hotels and have conferences promising that you'll make a ton of money the first year. Any school that promises you big bucks straight out of school. Those that run TV ads offering every "degree" under the sun including medical transcription. Those that make you buy their expensive players and footpedals before you can get started. Those that you find a zillion "testimonials" posted on every discussion forum available.
While you're researching the schools, be sure to get a good resume sm
and keep it updated at the local hospitals, services, etc. If you are really interested and have some training, you're chance of hospital work is better than having none. That is the best training ground you can find. Years ago I started at a local hospital with a semester of medical terminology. Those breaks are rare now, but you might get lucky.
In all honesty, though, you will probably have to take a "legitimate" course. I wish we could get the word out nationwide. I also know people who paid their money and still had no marketable skill. Good luck.
Good MT Schools--CareerStep Medical Transcription Program
Hi--saw your message and I am a graduate of a really good MT school--CAREERSTEP.
Just type in www.careerstep.com and check it out!! It is really a good school and they have either textbook and tapes method or online course--2 types, I believe--Gold online and Platinum online. Goodluck!!!
There is plenty of work, I agree. Grads from good schools
Reports
On average, how many blank spaces does the average entry level MT leave in a report?Anyone!!!!!!!!!
VRA reports
Can anyone tell me exactly what VRA stands for? I know it is supposed to be voice recognized something, but I have technology stuck in my head and can't get beyond that. Thanks for your help
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sample reports
Does anyone know of a website that offers a good variety of ortho and/or physical therapy reports? Most websites I find only have a few, if any. Much appreciated!
I've also done quite a few reports
But haven't stopped to count them (at least until now LOL). I know in my last lesson there were 7-8 I did, plus partial reports to reinforce terminology, etc. The current lesson I think has that same amount, I preparing for the mail-in test now (yes, it can be e-mailed, I just prefer mail for some archaic reason). I'm just now in lesson 3 of course 3, so I'm right about halfway through I think.
Question about QA reports
I have been working at my first job out of school for about a month now. Just recently, I have noticed that all of my reports are being sent to about 4 different people, including the owner. Is this normal? I have been told I am doing just fine, but it makes me nervous that all of these people are looking at every report I do. I guess it wouldn't bother me if they had done this at the start, but I'm not sure why all of the sudden they are doing this. Maybe I am just being paranoid. Thanks for listening!
maybe your reports are too hard
I am new too, but I know the answer as well. And I just type office notes right now at my first job going on 4 months. Hmmm.
Depends too on how much repetition the reports have, sm
I think I would like to see and hear samples before I could figure it out. What happens if the tape is 54 minutes...do you carry over the 6 min extra to the next tape? Or is he saying If I give you 3 30 minutes cassettes a week, it's $60, whether they are full or not. Again if he says a bunch of the same stuff, it could be good! Just use the heck out of your word expander.
No kidding I did 20 reports tonight SM
I do at least 30 reports per day and usually more like 40 or 50 - they are just office chart notes averaging 1 - 2 minutes per dictation, but still.....
It is really terrible that a school takes advantage of someone like that - I know now how many reports I do in a day, but someone who is not even a student yet and researching schools might not even think to ask how many reports are given for practice.
20 reports and they consider you an employable transcriptionist?!?!?!?!
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I recently had missing reports,
but I found out that I had not signed in or out correctly so the reports for that day were not counted in the total "clocked in" amount. They were accounted for and paid, but just did not show when I checked my status. With this company, I have to clock in and out. What got confusing was that sometimes the platform did not ask me to clock in, although I always exited and logged out. Maybe your problem is as simple as mine was, just a thought.
I see you only transcribe 100 reports with that school ...
not nearly enough. Also, the fact that I have been unable to find anyone who has heard of it means that most companies do not hire graduates of that school. JMHO.
Is there a way for you to print sample reports?
I used to print samples when I was a newbie starting out in radiology 19 years ago. I found that if I did that, and then did handwritten notes on the samples, it made it better. Put them in a notebook with dividers by either dictator or specialty, account, or whatever makes it easier.
For some odd reason, I still to this day when learning a new account print out samples and make handwritten notes. I tend to bring the notebook out, flip it to the dictator I'm working on and it gives me a sense of security.
I also handwrote (I'm only 37-years-old) drug names on a sheet of paper. I guess I'm from the old school, but handwriting things made me remember better. I remember also needing to remember MD or DO for physicians and just as a pick-me-up - there was one his name was First I. Last, D.O., F.A.C.C. and we used to call him DOOFUS (behind his back of course)!!! Just trying to make you smile!
It will get better. You live and learn!!!! Believe me!!!! Hang in there!
what type of reports are you typing?
I do alot of psyche and some of my reports range from 150-450 lines per report. So when you look at it like that it is not bad. On the other had if you are doing radiology that would be totally different. Again some of mines average from 15-30 lines. That is with a 65 character line.
Your experience transcribing reports in school
does not count as the type of experience they are looking for. The only way you are going to get a job is to keep testing, and ACE those tests. Eventually someone will offer you a position. That is what I did when I finished school to become an MT. But, you cannot list your *school* experience transcribing as experience when applying for companies because they will not accept that. We were all newbies once and it is a hard field to break in to. Keep applying, sending out your resume, and testing. That's the only way to do it other than trying to get a job at a hospital, clinic, etc. working outside the home.
what is the difference between clinic and acute care reports?
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HIPAA is a joke. These reports go to third world countries. nm
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Forget "approved" schools. AAMT set the criteria, then approved schools that didn't meet i
Stick with Andrews or M-Tec (both of which happen to be "approved") but forget about any others, they are not worth it.
Just keep saving his/her stuff as shortcuts/templates. After about 10 reports, you'll have
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Um, no. Actually, it doesn't.
In any event, the OP knows what MTSO means. She wants to know how to find one. This was in the message.
So what? That doesn't mean we have to be members. I'd
rather not be involved in an association at all than a two faced one like AAMT.
So you got lucky. Doesn't mean everyone will. nm
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Thank you. It doesn't hurt to
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That doesn't sound bad at all (see msg)
What I have seen for new MTs is about 500-600 lpd for the first couple-few months.
I work an 8-hour shift with a 30-minute lunch and two 15-minute breaks (I'm an employee). I start getting slower around midshift or a bit after that point. I have found it very helpful to have a timer on my desk and take a break when it goes off, whether it be my 15-minute break or a 5-minute one to stand up and stretch. I usually have my timer set at 2 hours. It's a pretty nifty digital timer that has hours/minutes and minutes/seconds (your choice) so you can set it for more than 90 minutes, although 90 minutes might be good for you since you're still new.
We don't request work at my company; it's already there and as soon as I submit a job I grab another one which helps me stay focused and not want to take a break.
I don't know if I was helpful in any way, but don't fret about speed; it will come with time.
CS doesn't even supply you with real
reference materials, except for the dictionary and drug book. All other books were written by the owner, who was trained by her mother, who taught herself.
I would rather have had real instructors instead of an "automatic grader" and real books instead of "home made" ones.
Form doesn't matter. I just do
it all is the usual format, headings capped and then just type. I make paragraphs if needed. Be sure and check for grammar (see your original post) because bad grammar will surely count against you, probably even more than a blank will. Just do the best you can with what you have to work with. If you don't pass it will at least have given you some experience and you have an idea of what to expect on the next one.
It doesn't sound familiar and
I don't see it in my Stedman's ENT book.
Sorry.
Sounds like my DH, doesn't care that he - sm
is leaving behind a wife and 2 kids(me and our children)---and I presume you have at least 1 child from your name. I hope you had life insurance already in place since no one will undoubtly touch him now. ---Good luck in your new job.
Andrews doesn't grade that way
The "high honors" bit doesn't apply to Andrews. They don't grade that way. It isn't just their top students who get jobs, but every graduate.
They begin the first day coaching you to achieve work that is good enough to be marketable. Their students go for 98% accuracy. Any time a student has trouble getting there, they do extra dictation to improve. The instructors work with them on this. Andrews doesn't use computers to grade or just sit students down with answer keys and expect them to grade themselves.
Andrews works with students until they are ready to graduate. When an Andrews student graduates, they are able to do work good enough to get a job with a national.
There isn't any make-or-break final at Andrews, either. Their students know exactly where they stand from the beginning, so there are no surprises at the end.
I so agree! Doesn't matter to me what school...sm
what matters is how you do on grammar and such and then the test files. I can spot a good Transcriptionist a mile away and it has nothing to do with the school listed on her resume.
Um. What? Your message doesn't make any sense.
Why should any MTSO be expected to hire someone who is clearly unqualified. Why should someone who broadcasts his or her poor skills in the initial contact be given "equal opportunity" with someone who really is qualified? It takes time and money to test and set up a new MT for work. That's time away from earning and money out of the MTSO's pocket. You think she should give that clearly unqualified and incompetent applicant a job? Why? It's not going to work out, as any experienced MTSO can tell you. You can tell from the initial contact when you've got someone who will not be able to do the work, no matter how much you try to help her or how many chances you give. It's not a matter of just being new, it's a matter of wheter the applicant is qualified, regardless of level of experience. New people with good skills will know enough not to make egregious errors in their communication with potential employers. Those people get hired. Those newbies get the opportunities. They deserve to get the opportunities because they can do the job. The unqualified, poorly trained newbies make their incompetence clear very early on, and MTSOs have learned to identify and eliminate them "right off the bat" (or bet, or whatever you think it is). Get down off your high horse and understand the needs of the person doing the hiring. Your message makes it clear you know nothing about the MT business or how to run any business. No one deserves a job just because he or she wants one. An applicant is going to have to show some potential before an MTSO is going to take a chance and make a job offer.
Doesn't work in Word XP (2000)
Dern it lol. I was told this answer a long time ago and was so greatful to finally have it, but have lost it..literally!
Well now I'm confused. She doesn't even make sense. nm
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I'm an employer and I say it doesn't matter where you go to school.
I'm impressed by an applicant who shows the ability to follow directions, troubleshoot and stick-to-it-ness. I have seen crap come out of the big three and I have seen crap come out of community colleges and matchbook schools. I have seen superb MT's come out of community colleges and I dare say matchbook schools. As a matter of fact, I didn't even go to school. I was a paramedic and just applied for a job typing x-rays. So I say it matters more what your natural abilities are. If you a linguist and type like the dickens, and know the medical field, you don't even have to go to school.
I'm saying a certificate doesn't sway me either way. Performance does. nm
Yes, new MTs have value. Doesn't mean companies should lose money on you, though.
There's an extremely high cost to mentoring/training new MTs. You've come into MT work with the wrong expectations, I think, regardless of where you got your direction.
It still doesn't sound like you're getting the point
It would be great if we could just do our job, but when you're thrown into a national workpool where some MTs are getting 45 different clients with 45 different client profiles to try and keep straight on any given shift, that's next to impossible. I don't think any of the MTs want to be nurtured, but some simple respect would be a step in the right direction.
What else do you want to know? Some of the service areas have gone through numerous production supervisors in a short amount of time so that an MT may never know who they are supposed to report to or direct questions to, especially if a PS doesn't answer e-mails. (I am fortunate in that I have a PS who is very good with communication).
Add to the national work pool the fact that daily bonuses that a lot of the MTs depended on as part of their pay were done away with and with very little notice . This was replaced with a quarterly bonus, the formula of which is so convoluted and confusing, I have no idea how it's even calculated. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, confuse them with BS, I guess.
This is the "real deal" from where I'm sitting for the next 2 weeks before I go elsewhere.
Exactly. Just because you get a certificate doesn't mean you're certified.
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Allied doesn't care if you learn anything OR if you get a job. They just want their $$. nm
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That's because CS doesn't have an entrance exam, they will take money from anyone
regardless of whether they have a snowball's chance in you-know-where of ever making it as an MT.
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