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When you hear "big 3" in that post sm

Posted By: clue on 2009-03-12
In Reply to: graduated almost a year ago from a "Big 3" and nada - mkj

it has to be Career Step - Andrews and M-Tec students identify their schools.  As I have said forever, CS students have a harder time.


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Notice that nobody promoted any "Big 2" or "Big 3" schools in that message
In fact, I don't see that much promotion on the boards of any specific school. I just see people fighting an invisible war against those awful "Big 3" schools. Count the messages.
The "big 3" are ...
Career Step, M-Tec, and Andrews.

I myself am a graduate of Career Step. If you would like more information, feel free to email me. :)
"big 3"
They say that Career Step students are considered without any experience. I know it is teaching me a lot

YES. Career Step is considered one of the "big three"

M-Tec and Andrews are also in there.  Any school that advertises on matchbook covers or has mostly other nonmedical related courses is NOT good.


The VLC is most definitely NOT one of the best schools out there.  Some people are just promoting it to suit their own purposes.  Read the archives of the board.  Nothing good about them.  Has anyone actually met one of their grads who has gotten a job at home right out of school?  Don't forget about their digital photography and basket weaving courses.  I guess those are fallback careers for their MT grads?


graduated almost a year ago from a "Big 3" and nada
I graduated almost a year ago from a "Big 3" school and have had no luck. I am thinking I have to go for my CMT to get a second look. Ridiculous!
Until every American MT is working who wants to, and is qualified, for a living wage and affordable, quality health care benefits, NO MT work should be going outside the US. Get on it, Obama!
I hear ya...

I'm new too and typing clinic notes only for an ortho clinic.  I have about 2 wks under my belt and what I found to be very helpful was that the QA person would point out to me some of the common phrases used by the different docs. He even made a list of terms the podiatry doc uses often.  There are a few new MTs on this account - perhaps that is why he made the list. Not everyone will have this resource, but you can slowly create one yourself.  I keep a notebook next to me and write down the phrases that I have gotten stuck on. 


I have found that going back and listening to the unclear parts after finishing the report helps, and sometimes I hold the ones with blanks in them until I am done the batch for that particular dictator. I then go back and by that time, my ears and brain have adjusted to that person's style and I can hear things I did not hear.  I am lucky that out of the 6 or 7 dictators, only one is ESL and I have gotten used to the regional accent of the other one that was hard at first to figure out. 


Good luck. I don't know what is expected of newbies, and I would bet that it differs from place to place.  It can be overwhelming at first getting up to speed.  My first few days were simply awful. I am sure if you work hard and get good QA feedback, you will find that you get used to the account and your blanks will go down quite a bit. 


Hear! Hear!
MRS is absolutely right. Anyone offering to perform skilled work for free undermines the economic base of the whole profession.

Please reconsider, if not for the sake of the rest of us, then for your own sake. There are any number of unscrupulous people who would be happy to take you up on your offer and string you along at no or very low pay for a long, long time.

If you have received a good MT education, with a little time and effort invested in the job search, you WILL find paid employment. It seems hopeless when first attempts meet with rejection, but good training and persistence will pay off. You do not have to work for nothing.
Sorry to hear that
Sorry to hear that. I personally would not all the negativity get you down. I think they just are unhappy and are just trying to share their sorrow.

Good luck in what you decide to do.
I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but here goes...
I only hire new grads from M-TEC, Andrews, and Career Step (sometimes). Of those grads I've hired, they were ready to hit the ground running even without experience. Granted, they made mistakes and were not as good as someone with years of experience, but they definitely heard more than 3 or 4 words out of each sentence.

You probably don't want to hear this, but you likely received an inferior MT education, and that is going to hold you back from being successful. If you are truly driven to succeed in this business and want to treat it like the career it is, your best bet is to get a better education. I know M-Tec has a course (by the way, it's "course," not "coarse") for people with prior medical knowledge, and maybe one of the other AAMT-approved schools do as well. If money is a concern, I also know there are payment plans and loans available.

I strongly urge you to look into more education before trying another MT job. The path you are currently on is designed for failure.

Anybody ever hear of TTS, LLC
Are they a good company to work for?
Sorry to hear that

The lack of new MTs to fill the shoes of those who leave will cause companies to continue to look for oversea's MT's. This will probably continue to make the wages drop for those still trying to thrive on a MTs pay. As for me, My degree was obtained through the University system, why would I pay 4,000 more for one online. It makes no sense. Good luck to you all ...I hope things work out well for you ..as they evetually will for me.


I hear ya...

I actually researched this profession for a few months before actually taking the plunge into extra school.  I have an extensive medical background.  But I started by calling different hospitals, transcription companies, etc, around the state that I live in.  They all told me the same thing, experience, experience, experience.  So I asked them what would make me hire-able without experience.  A few of them gave me names of medical transcription schools that they would waive the requirement for.  I followed up and am now extremely happy with my choice. Being a lurker here, I know that many people who are extremely bright and smart cannot get hired because of lack of a certain certificate from only certain schools, which I think is crazy to limit the hiring process based on that only.  BUT what matters at the end of the day is who signs your paycheck.  So instead of standing on my soapbox and shouting all that is wrong, I bit the bullet and enrolled.  I am only a few weeks away from graduation and every graduate from my school has been able to find a quality job in a matter of days or a couple of weeks. 


I hear you!
Were we separated at birth or what?!?  I used the word "pest" when I emailed my mentor last night!
I hear you.
Good luck to you.. I am a new graduate with one year experience.. and finding NO luck... I always wonder how the people in this field break in.. and I think the only answer I've found is persistence... majorly.. hopefully before long we'll both find our way in.
When you don't hear from QA anymore nm
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Same here. Took me two weeks to hear anything
I still work there today. Just took a little while to get things sorted out, I guess. Call them! What will it hurt?
Also still waiting to hear...
I sent my assessments back on Friday the 28th and haven't heard anything yet. They were very quick to reply after I sent my resume and sample transcription. I was hoping to hear something soon, but I'm sure they have tons of people to sort through.
Now that's good to hear!

As in any profession, you will come across people that feel they are greater than thou.  You've made the right choice.  Now, take that education and go with it!  What I have found is that it is not so much being corrected by QA, it is the manner in which it is done.  I always felt I'll take all of the advice I can get, but only use what I need, and let the worthless advice come in one ear and out of the other!  TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS!  When it is all said and done, you are helping people even if it is behind the scenes.  Proper documentation to a caregiver means the world and do not ever forget that! 


So sorry to hear about your husband.
Have you tried your local hospitals or do you need to work from home? That would be one of my suggestions since it sounds like you are not a newbie. That is how I got my job. I had gotten several calls from potential employers here, but only one solid offer. Unfortunately, it came after I started the job I have now.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
Obviously you're not going to believe anybody unless they say what you want to hear.
So just go ahead an spend your money, and then come back here like all the others and complaint that no one will hire you without 2 years' experience, because NOBODY will waive that experience requirement for graduates of Allied. MANY places will waive that requirement for Andrews and M-Tec grads, and let them take their employment test (which they will most likely pass). The companies know that grads of Allied can't pass the employment tests because they are not trained well enough. So if somebody comes on here and tells you Allied is a great school and they had no trouble getting a job afterwards, go for it. Maybe you'll be one of the RARE lucky ones. Just don't hold your breath.
I hear you, Sasha!!
I have had the same issue.  I graduated in November from one of the top 3 schools, only to find the same thing as you - testing with so many companies I have to keep a log to keep them straight, no responses from e-mails, "we'll be hiring in a few weeks" responses, "you need 2 years of experience", etc.  I graduated with a 95% average and thought I would get a much warmer response than I have.  Granted, the economy does affect some, but I would not think it would affect all.  I landed a phone interview with a national, but the message boards are making me a little paranoid about even thinking about it.  I'm in the same boat as you, Sasha!!
Thank you! I am so glad to hear
that using the pinkie to shift will not interfere with the program.
please e/m me -- my post didn't post.
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Hear ya loud and clear!!
I am also having trouble getting my foot in the door anywhere. Frankly, my toes are a little sore!
Sorry to hear that. I hope you can find one
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I'll believe it when I hear from others getting their money.
nm
Gotta know your stuff or you'll have to look up everything you hear. Must
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Sorry to hear about your lost business. We aren't seeing that.
I'm seeing more business than ever before. I hope yours will pick up. Don't get discouraged.
But didn't you hear? Goji got her refund!
Yeah, I ALMOST believe it!


Anyone hear of TTS? (Transcription, Technology, and Support
I have been offered a job with TTS and can't find any info on them. They are located in New Hampshire. They had  a job posting on the job seekers board here so I was hoping somebody had some information. Thank you!
Glad to hear such good news!
I am happy for you and your family, and I hope he continues to improve.
As you'll hear 1000 times, there IS no school that SM

can offer an MT certificate. You have to take the test through AAMT.


Also, what offices and hospitals want? A person who can sit down and do their work without a lot of discussion or BS. Just get the work out, make it correct. I was in a hiring position for several years at the largest hospital in my state. I didn't care about certification. I cared about test performance.


Of course a CMT behind your name means A LOT. That test is very difficult and, for the most part, if you have passed that test, no more discussion is necessary.



You will hear responses from both ends of the spectrum and everything in between on these boards. (s
Personally, I LOVE MT. I went to The School That Dare Not Speak Its Name (not one of the "big three") and I had a job before I finished my course. I have had plenty of work since then working for a local service.

I only work about six hours a day. I could work more if I wanted, but I have children and would like to spend my time with them. I make about $1500 a month, which was what I needed to make to supplement our income.

You will read here about people who say they make $60K a year, and you will read here about people who swear they have no work and that the end of the world is nigh. Take it all with a grain of salt.

For what it's worth, I love what I do. I spent six years in college getting a BS and an MA, and I will never use them again... I love MT! Good luck, and feel free to email me if you like. I think you'll be just fine.
It makes me livid to hear the line of BS these schools are handing out-
such a disservice. Why are they misrepresenting what remains of the MT field? Cha-ching!
I'd also rather hear from a successful employer with a good plan for continued success
Success breeds success. When I look for a leader or mentor or someone to give me advice, I look for someone who has been successful. That person will have to be able to identify his or herself and have verifiable proof to back up their claims. There are ways to do that. Blind posts on message boards don't do it.
Just type what you hear. Lots of things are repeated in differnent notes.
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I never hear of those who attended decent schools unable to find work
You can pay now or later.  I had job offers with every company I tested with when I graduated from M-TEC, which was more than 8 years ago.  I have worked from home since day 1 doing both clinics and mostly acute care.  I do not know of anyone who graduated with me who has ever had problems finding a job.  Employers are catching on as to which schools offer enough training so that the grads actually have some experience under their belt or are worth bringing up to speed.  I also did not have to start out at 6 cents a line.  That is absolutely insane.
Where should I post it?
Is there a section on MT Stars that you post resumes or are you saying to just post it in a message? Thanks
I appreciate your post and I do
recognize what has been happening in the field.  As you stated, many MTs are allowing it to happen which is sad.  There is no way to go up from there and they don't have a clue to recognize that.
sorry..about my last post..
I thought I was answering on another string of posts.
In regards to my post
I never said MTec was dishonest. The gist of the post was that an MT training school could not give objective advice to a person considering purchasing their product. The OP was simply told to take this into consideration. Surely no one can disagree with that statement?
they won't let me post to you...
e-mail me.
Thanks for this post.
I have another six months before I reach that "two years experience" everyone seems to want. I did bite the bullet and settle for a less than top paying job to be working and getting that experience straight from training. My outlook was the same as yours. I am glad to know I'm in good company. I thought your post was very nice.
Very useful post. I wish
this post would automatically pop up every time somebody came here asking about schools, and whether the extra $1000 or whatever is worth it.
i only got about 2/3 of the way through your post.....
and thought there are much better ways for you to do this. Here are some suggestions that might save you a little money.

1. Try finding another internet provider. I pay $30 per month for my high speed.

2. Do not spend money on books anymore. Use reliable web sites. This is the beauty of Internet. In the old-days when we worked on-site and there was no Internet, we had to rely on books, but nowadays you can have the AAMT Styleguide on your computer, and there are so many reliable web sites for surgical instruments, medications, etc.

3. Can you possibly e-mail your invoices. This will get it to your provider quicker, and hopefully a paycheck back to you quicker, i.e. no paper or ink. My printer has been out of ink for 2 weeks. I do everything on line now, and never print anything anymore.

3. The cabinet was a one time purchase, but will be a tax write off.

4. Talk to your husband about the importance of your job and income. I hate to work when my husband is home. Some times I need to, and he and the kids all know that mom is working and cannot be disturbed (for the most part).

5. I hear you on the CPA thing. Mine charges me so much money to do my taxes. I am seriously considering disolving my corporation and going back to using my social security number. I really have not seen any perks there.

Anyway, hope some of these help.


I said in my post that she can't get
a TRANSCRIPTION job with just a coding education.
Thank you for this post
The office that I work for is going to EMR soon. I was so afraid I was going to lose my job. I'm still not exactly sure what I'm going to be doing, but I have EMR training starting next week.
Any certain post, or are you seeing many? nm
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there must be at least 10 different MTs who post with the
username 'anon.' This 1 is a new 1, still in the 'basic program?'
post your resume
when you are ready. Some companies do hire newbies even if they do not post.
post resume
there should be a link at the home page of this site.