Response for Teresa - please see inside.
Posted By: Endiqua on 2005-10-30
In Reply to: Newly Graduate from Medical Office Occupations - Teresa
I'm not sure what "Medical Office Occupations" is, but if it's a school for medical transcription, they should give you some idea of how to find a job. If they can't help you find a job - then I hate to tell you this, but you're going to have a hard time.
Frankly, it is VERY difficult for someone with no experience to find a job unless they graduated from Andrews, MTEC, or Career Step. Some have found they can only get local in-house jobs at the beginning (and are lucky to find those).
When you say "no one will listen to you" - who exactly do you mean? Have you applied at any of the companies mentioned here? Taken any transcription tests?
You never know who is going to be on boards like this - recruiters, small MTSO owners, etc., and I would recommend making sure your posts are professional and reflect good English skills.
Read these posts and go through the archives for more information, as well.
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I quit my stressful job to do MT full throttle. My hubby and I planned it for months. In MHO, MT is not something you should squeeze in at the end of your day. There is FAR too much to learn not to be able to give it your full attention. I looked at it like a job to learn. When I was not working on the course itself I was looking at message boards, seeing if I could figure out the answers on the word help boards, reading the AAMT magazine, you name it. I breathed, slept, and ate MT. Now, not everyone is as anal as this, but for me this worked. I had numerous job offers before I even graduated based on my test results, so I feel I got out of it what I put into it! Good luck to you. 
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NM means "no message"
LP is a new one. I don't know what that means or I even saw that before. Hope this helps!!
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Just about anywhere you ask, you will hear that Andrews School, M-TEC, and Career Step are the best, and the only ones worth the money. Many companies will waive the 2-years' experience requirement if you graduate from one of these three schools.
Good luck to you.
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I know you don't want to hear it, but you are wasting your money if you choose one of the cheaper schools. You will not be able to get a job afterwards. Most of the big companies will waive the 2-years' experience requirement if you go to Andrews, M-TEC, or Career Step, but not for the other schools. You get what you pay for. Those 3 schools will also help you get a job after you graduate.
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Northeast Transcription email gail@ntitech.com - they were looking for new grads. Focus Infomatics hires new grads, I think. Good luck and keep trying.
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Precyse Solutions and Spheris take MTs with dial-up. Precyse Solutions is smaller with about 300 MTs and Spheris has about 1000.
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Any purchases:
computers
equipment
desk/chair
books
supplies
Gas for any deliveries or pickups to customers.
A percentage of your rent or mortgage and utilities IF you have a separate room dedicated to work.
Telephone and Internet expenses if applicable.
Maybe that will help you get started. It is best to ask an accountant. :)
Thank you for the response
Thanks for that response. I also posted on 2 other MT message boards and got the same response you gave me, I will hold off on doing that for now. I'm still pretty new at this so I was getting frustrated with my slow speed. But, I think I just need to be more patient with myself, I do have a good Expander program that I use.
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I was looking into Career Step and M-Tec. After researching both, I'm not sure which one to choose.. I take it you went through Career Step.?
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Executive Transcription Solutions is the company. Thank you all for your help
Thank you for your response
I emailed Linda for information. I have heard something about a sallie mae foundation (spelling??) somewhere at one time. Can anyone help on that subject? Where do I find out the information ????
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Don't give up. Have you tested on some of the online sites? All I can tell you is that it can be done. Test, Test, Test if you haven't already. Email your resume to everyone, even those who say they require 2,5,10 years. I probably have not received responses to half of the emails I have sent out. I am a newbie, too, but I now have a PT and FT job. Good luck to you!
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"I never said MTec was dishonest. The gist of the post was that an MT training school could not give objective advice to a person considering purchasing their product. The OP was simply told to take this into consideration. Surely no one can disagree with that statement?"
I think I can disagree, Jo. I absolutely can (and do) give objective advice about the profession and would never mislead a prospective student into thinking that choosing M-Tec will guarantee them job placement or an easy ride to success. I have turned away many a prospective student and probably terminated an equal number for lack of progress or poor scores.
I have been an MT practitioner since 1971 and have worked in hospital medical records, radiology, you name it.
I currently own and operate a home-based MT service with 15 clients and 6 ICs. While that is small potatoes compared to some, I do it to keep my hand on the pulse of the industry. I experience every change this industry has made, right down to the EHR, VR, point-and-click templates and offshoring. I live it just like everyone here, and I have been just as frustrated over some of the changes as many of you here. I have not noticed any changes in the industry as a whole in terms of companies hiring qualififed MTs for entry-level positions, whether it be part-time or full-time, unless you want to talk about the growing requests for entry-level MTs recently?
I tell anyone who asks of my experiences with my service switching to an EMR-based system, but I will also tell you about our 96% placement rate for our graduates. These are figures that can be checked with our state board.
I feel confident that I can speak with authority on any MT-related issues without bias -- those are just the facts! :)
Does this mean I won't be happy to talk with you about the pros of enrolling through M-TEC? Naaah -- I have to be honest -- I think our course is one of the best on the market, and many employers and happy graduates would agree.
Thank you for your response.
Thank you for your response, Melissa. As before mentioned, I'd had trouble grasping the full concept of verbatim transcribing - especially when changes would have to be made for appropriateness without changing what the dictator said. Currently, the QA in my internship just sends back short responses (Nice report, uploaded; this word s/b another word, corrections attached, uploaded; etc.). The feedback is nice, but I didn't always know why one word should be another word when I typed what the dictator said. Those words could very well be word agreement. I hope I have the right understanding now. Thank you again for your response, it helps.
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Dianne,
Please be reasonable. You enrolled on August 10 using our 7 month payment plan. You paid $399 down and then on August 18 you paid an additional $554.24 to have your second shipment sent. As stated our on site, materials are shipped usually within 2 -3 business days from enrollment, and then take 5 to 10 business days (a total of up to 13 business days). When you contacted us yesterday, the materials had been 14 business days. Obviously, there was a delay, but, unfortunately, we have no control over the postal service. To compensate for this delay, your dictionary was ordered through Amazon to be delivered the following day. It was brought to my attention this morning, that according to the tracking #, your first shipment arrived yesterday morning. The same day you started voicing your complaints everywhere. I don't understand why you are continuing to do so when we have done everything possible to correct the problem. You have been doing so well with your testing, and with your medical background, I am sure you will continue to. To compensate further for this delay, which fortunately did not prevent you from continuing with the course, we would like to offer you a free upgrade to the Expert edition. This edition includes additional dictation, additional online modules, our Work Placement Program, and the ability to enroll in our Internship Program. If you decide to withdraw from the course, please contact me directly and I will start the procedures. I also wanted to inform you that we are looking into an alternate shipping service to prevent this from happening in the future.
Sincerely,
Amy Rudd
School Director
Virtual Learning Center
Response
1) It is not OUR responsibility to check out your career choices for you and warn you.
2) If you'd bother really checking around and talking those who work for the virtual companies, you would have learned this BEFORE you made your choice!!!
My goodness. Don't you realize that companies SELLING education are in business to make money? Of course they're not going to tell you, "Come! Take our course! Spend your money and time! But you'll be hard pressed to get a job, may never get the WAH opportunity you want. But hey! Don't let that stop you! Just write out that check and you'll be well on your way to your DREAM (as in not gonna happen) job!"
Does it not make sense to you that anything with a get-rich-quick scheme is just that, a scheme? What profession can you train in a year or less and come out making $40,000 from your home?! Sounds like a scam BECAUSE IT IS!!!!
So, here. I'll tell you straight up:
You're in stiff competition, sweetie. Those of us with years of actual inhouse acute care experience will always beat you out for a job because we worked INHOUSE and gained ACUTE CARE EXPERIENCE (heck, any experience is better than none) and didn't expect the top pay, top positions, top anything to start.
You've also got competition from technology (speech recognition) leaving you with the icky dictators (and as a new MT, you have difficulty doing the good ones most of the time).
You've also got competition because it is just cheaper labor to send work to India. Besides, India is working their daytime hours while we all sleep -- because no one wants to work other than M-F 8-5. Also, with the severe shortage of experienced MTs capable of producing high-quality high-production work that isn't dependent on 100% QA, sending out is a viable option.
You have been told.
Thank you for your response!
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Thanks for your response!!
very helpful :P
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Tell the doctors to take some responsibility, to speak English and those who do, speak clearly and with a little more respect to the transcriptionist. We ARE NOT DOCTORS. This infuriates me !!! This is bullsh_t.
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That is a somewhat difficult comparison because very few people, if any, complete more than 1 of the courses you mentioned so they would not be able to give a fair comparison of job search results. I can say that I see very few M-Tec or Andrews grads complaining of an inability to find that first job.
Perhaps another question you might also want to ask is whether the grads were able to hold onto that first job for the 2+ years that is the typical minimum experience requirement for the industry. While I know more CS grads than I do Andrews or M-TEC grads (because I went to CS), I know very few CS grads that did not spend at least a portion of their first post-grad year job-hopping. I only know 4 CS grads (including myself) that are still with their initial employer after more than 2 years.
The third thing might want to inquire about is the type of position (clinic versus acute care)graduates from each school are able to obtain and what grads from each school can expect in regard to starting pay. At the CS student forum, I have seen grads profess to be willing to work 1-3 cpl or even for free just to "get their foot in the door" because they have not been successful in finding a job.
Heck, I don't see why not...see inside
It'll at least give you good experience in testing. However, actually getting the job is a long shot unless you ace the test or have a good MT education to your credit.
Well, there's this link inside, too...
http://archives.mtstars.com/main2005/32964.html
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I see typos.... see inside
You need to check for spelling errors yourself. See below.
Before you hit the send button, Char, you might want to stop and give some consideration to your audience. Many of the people who read this board are people who hire MTs. If your post is sloppy and full of ignorance, you will be dismissed as a sloppy, ignorant MT, and any potential employer will not give you another thought. If your post is intelligent, well written, and error-free, you just might be contacted by someone willing to give you a chance. I have contacted three newbies who posted intelligent comments in complete, accureately-spelled (accurately)sentences on this board. I hired one of them. I would have been happy to hire the other two, but two other MTSOs had (2 had) had the same idea after seeing their posts and beat me to it. Think about that the next time you want to post something incoherent and badly spelled because "it's just a message board". A sloppy, incoherent post might (be?) hilarious to you, but to someone assessing your suitability for employment, it's just really depressing.
I start Jan 8.....more inside
I start with the tech call on the 8th, training on the 9th, and begin work on the 10th. Any insight no how to start off great? Any recommended reference books? Are you employed with them?
Jill
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Maybe this will help.
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See instructions inside.
At your desktop, right click and choose Properties, Advanced, under item at the drop-down arrow select window, click on the drop-down arrow by color 1, and either choose one of those colors or select "other" and you can create whatever color you want. It will have no affect on your document, just your screen.
I used to use light purple, now I use light blue. I change colors just to alleviate boredom. :)
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I am a CS graduate, and if I had it to do over, I'd choose Andrews School or M-TEC.
Almost all of the books you receive from CS are written by the lady who started the school. The other 2 schools use real reference books that contain a LOT more. That's one reason the other 2 schools cost more.
Also, the other 2 schools have real instructors who go over your work and point out errors, and help you along. At CS, your work is "automatically compared" against the same report done at some unknown time and place by some unknown MT, who may or may not have done it correctly. All you get is a comparison between the two, it only shows the differences, like holding two pieces of paper up to the light to see if everything matches. Whenever there are differences, it's up to YOU to figure out which one is correct. The only time a real person actually looks over your work is when you take your final exam (which over 50% of students fail the first time they take it, and that statement comes directly from CS itself, not from me).
Yes, I did get a work-at-home job after graduating from CS. But I feel my first year of work was a lot harder, I spent a lot more time looking things up, there were a lot of things I would have learned at Andrews or M-Tec that I didn't learn at CS.
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If she's already made her decision, I suppose this doesn't matter much.
But the fact is, if she takes the course from Andrews or M-TEC, she will indeed be able to pass most TRANSCRIPTION (not typing) tests right out of school. Many companies will waive the 2-year experience requirement for grads of those two schools because of the excellent training. Also, she should not need an internship if she takes the course from Andrews or M-TEC.
I have been trying business with no response
I have taken one test and did not pass because they wanted a 98% accuracy and I believe that I had a 94%. All the other companies that I have applied at tell me that they want experience or I keep bugging them to take their test. I am now cold calling doctor offices to see if they need anything. I know 3 people in this field that work from home and they did not have trouble finding a job at all. They all started about three years ago though.
Thanks for the tactful response
My grammar may be a bit rusty, but you could have left the laughing smiley out and still have made your point, in a much nicer way.
I was merely expressing frustration that people discount all of the time one spends studying to prepare to do this kind of work. I was trying to explain to my dh the other night why I wanted to attend a good MT school, and his response was "What's so hard? The Dr. talks, and you type". He figures that with what I know already, I can learn the rest (in his opinion, not much more to learn) on someone else's dime. The only thing that got through to him was that I could not get hired to work from home for a national with the training I currently have, and that I could make more money right off the bat if I did complete the training. He still won't accept that the training is necessary to do the work, but has to accept that to get hired at a better wage, I will need better training.
I apologize if I misled you to infer that I felt I was totally qualified to be an MT and scoffed at anyone who was less qualified than I. I also apologize if I led you to believe that I don't have respect for how difficult the work is. I am terrified of failing at this and want to go through a good program, and hope to do so soon. I am qualified enough to satisfy this one particular employer, but just barely. I am in no position to train someone or try to get them hired, and I would never suggest that the path I took to get this job is a recommended way to do it.
Well, I am off to practice and study some more before starting work next week.
I will be more aware of my grammar when posting on this forum. Would you recommend the Gregg Manual as a good reference or is there a better one out there? Can we make peace?
Frustrated response
Medquist will hire you out of school as well as Spheris. Go to Mtjobs.com and click on the red bubble (search jobs) good luck
another good response!!!
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I posted a response to her too (sm)
Someone else responded to her original post and gave her constructive information regarding her grammar. She then turned around and told that person to kiss her you-know-what, etc. Then she kept complaining that people were offending her and wanted posts deleted. The administrator did so and also deleted her offensive post. What goes around comes around. The administrator admonished us not to treat her badly. When she used offensive language to the first response she was asking for it. Of course, that is just my opinion. Are we still allowed those? We spend so much time trying to send out perfect work that when we are posting on these boards it is easy to get lazy and not proof as well. It is just in our nature that these errors would jump out at someone else reading them. We do get paid for that, after all. Of course, there is no need to criticize each mistake made on this board although, as I stated previously, when you come here with an attitude you can be pretty sure that you will get it back x10.
Peace out....
Got a response from Medware
I received a response from Medware with their employee screening info as well as a few transcription "tests". Looked it over and filled out all of the info as well as did the tests and sent it back. I did a search on this company and got a mix of people who loved working for them and others who did not. Any input would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks!
Jill
Response to M-TEC Question
Hi Daphne,
I took the Tier 1 Premier Program a little over 2 years ago. My experience with M-Tec was wonderful. I also had no medical background. It is a very comprehensive course, but I truly enjoyed it and learned so much. You asked if Tier 1 Premier was necessary. My advice to you is if you want to work from home, you should definitely take the Premier program. If you take the Basic program, you generally have to work onsite somewhere until you are ready to work on your own. As a student at M-TEC, you will have your own personal instructor assigned to you to answer any questions along the way. This is a great school. Not only is your instructor available to you, but the directors of the school are also very accessible. The student forums are very supportive too. There are many companies who will waive the 2-year experience requirement if you are a Premier graduate of M-TEC with a decent GPA. You really can't go wrong with M-TEC. I think it was worth every penny.
response to jenn
Good for you!
However, I've been in this business for more than 20 years. I've seen plenty of nurses think they can and are doing a great job and simply cannot do it.
It amazes me how much they don't know.
In response to your question
They clearly are a SCAM. Don't be tempted to buy their equipment. They rip people off their money without providing them with real training and guaranteed employment.
In response to mentor help
I definitely am in need of a mentor. I graduated over a year ago and I am about to give up. I have had a few close calls, but did not come through. Any help will be Great, Thank You!
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Hi Winnie, -- first of all why do you want to be an MT? Stay at home mom with young kids? Promises of $40k-100K a year -- if so, you are thinking the wrong career -- when I worked outside the home, I was able to take daycare as a tax deduction as well as private schools -- give it a second thought cause the great tremendous money isnt here and I have been doing this for over 30 years
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Ditto what Misha said and more - see inside
I transcribed and did QA for more than 4 years before returning to just transcribing. I can tell you hands down that the best MTs were the ones that already had a very solid backround in English and a huge love of learning before they spent big money to attend a GOOD school. IMHO, MT is not easy to learn unless you put forth a lot of effort, and if you struggle with English then you may not learn as many medical concepts as you need to, which in turn will make you struggle on the job. I saw this time and time again as my company shuffled people in and out who could not cut it. I may also add that some of these people who did not make it were from the Big 3. It is not for everyone. I agree that the big money is not really there these days.
Not that I disagree with you totally, but (see inside)
there just aren't many hospitals in many areas any more where people can work. Many of them hire services.
Graduates of Andrews School and M-Tec seem to have no problem getting hired or keeping their jobs at home right out of school. "Grads" of the "matchbook" schools are the ones who need all the extra in-house assistance.
I use the ABCZ method. See inside.
http://home.earthlink.net/~agjon/abczrule.htm
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I have had to delete part of this thread due to vulgarity, which is unwarranted.
Please understand that responses from all perspectives may be posted but civility and respect still can be demonstrated.
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Newbie/Student response
I am not yet a professional MT, as I am still in school and have been unable to find employment, but from what I have learned so far in school I understand that paying attention to details is one of the most important aspects of being an MT. If this is actually the case, why would anyone take a possible employment opportunity so lightly as to skip directions or misspell words on an application? For those of us who are trying very hard to find work, this is rather insulting. An MT is supposed to be proficient in grammatical skills (!!!!!), so anyone applying for a position should have enough respect for himself and the company that he is applying to that he would at least read the instructions on the application. I am not trying to be rude or cruel in any way, but I just feel that so many errors on an application would most likely discourage an employer from hiring the applicant.
Another thing, when looking for employment last night I accidentally stumbled across an Indian transcription company. On it were many testimonials from employees and hopeful employees of the company. There were so many misspelled and out of context words in these statements! I know that my grammar has a long way to go; that’s why I keep and handbook by my side when I am trying to perform professionally. Why is it that so many companies prefer these people that can’t even use English well over Americans that are studying to perfect the use of our native language? I am having a hard time finding any company that is willing to hire a new-grad, so all of the bad grammar coming from the Transcriptionist on that site hit my mean bone. Please don’t think I am a bitter, sarcastic person because I am not. I just find myself a little erked at offshore companies. I know that I will find I great opportunity soon enough.
Wow!!! Great response. Would hire you myself if I could!!!!!!
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I posted my response to you above accidentally.
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Now that's what I call a response to a question!
Finally, someone who answers a question instead of nit-picking apart someone's question because they didn't use correct grammar or punctuation. Bravo to you for offering up some good, helpful advice!
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