I respectfully disagree--Allied has a GUARANTEED...
Posted By: floridaprincess1969 on 2008-06-27
In Reply to: Obviously you're not going to believe anybody unless they say what you want to hear. - deb
...lifetime job placement program. Any of the MT schools iare what you make of it and how you work it. I have already been offered a position and I haven't even finished the Allied course yet. Just sayin'.
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I disagree. Allied has a pretty decent program.
It's not a guaranteed job
Read their website carefully. The job with the transcription company is not guaranteed! It's subject to your ability to produce work of adequate quality.
Since there are no known students of this program, there is a lack of evidence on which to base any expectation that you will succeed.
I can also share that you may be stuck in more ways than one. In order to move on to another job, you will need not only experience, but specialty transcription training. That's not included in this school's basic program. (It costs extra. The amount was not stated that I could see.)
I disagree 100%
I went to a crappy school (didn't know any better until after I paid for and started the training). I studied hard, found as many sample dictations I could on the web (in addition to the ones included in my course), did everything in my power to learn what I could. Interned for 3 months (2 months during training and 1 month after - was offered the internship because I did so good on the homework). I sent out probably 30 resumes, passed tests at 98% or better...no one would hire me without experience...until the day I sent out a resume to a company who was hiring with "a minimum of 3 years experience." I included a cover letter begging for a chance, explaining what a fast learner I am. They hired me at 8 cents a line with incentives on top of it. After 3 weeks I got the okay to submit directly to the client, I was (and still am) praised repeatedly for the quality of my work. My second pay period I was the 2nd highest producer of 16 MTs on the account and the 3rd pay period I was the highest producer on the account. After 3 months I got a 1 cent raise. In short, got my certificate in March, got hired in April... and here I am at 9 cents a line and they tell me I am one of the top 4 MTs in the group. The lesson here...if you KNOW you can do it then you can! I say apply...ESPECIALLY if you went to one of the top schools. They can only say no. Good luck to you!
Sorry - I disagree
I disagree since I have seen both sides. The younger ones, below 30, might be okay with this but those over 35 do not like this. Another thing there is too much standardization and the insurance companies are cutting down on payment, etc. when a note is so standardized that it does not show the 45 minutes spent with the patient they will pay at the rate for a 20 minute visit which makes a big diffence in payment. Anytime Medicare or an insurance company can cut down the payment they will which then costs in rebilling cost. I work right where the billing is also done when I work on the EMR's, typing directly into them, and I hear what is going on. Also legal wise, the docs are finding out it is not good. Like I said the 5 docs in this clinic would rather pay me $18 an hour to type into the charts than take the 2 to 3 hours it takes them to do them along with the procrastination. Most of them dictate while driving home -- they have good machines, easy to understand and this is not a problem for me, and by the time they get home, their chart notes are done and they bring me the tape the next day, I do them and chart notes are done within 48 hours. Anyway it works for them. Trouble is now they want me 40 hours per week but cannot give up my other accounts. Started out doing just 10 to 15 hours per week -- 2-3 docs, to get out of the house, then 20 to 25 wtih four and now they want me full-time for the five. But I make too much off of my own personal accounts and cannot do it so they are looking for someone else.
Also, I have been approached by two other clinics to help out with their EMR's as they are having the same problems. Patients are speaking up and telling the doctor, hey I am paying for your service, look at me when I talk with you and don't be typing into that darn computer. But then this is just my side of it. Patti
I disagree.... sm
I went through CAI and got hired with MQ after I graduated. They are acredited with the New Jersey Deptment of Education as well. I don't see why everyone is so quick to disregard this program.
(Read this quick, because my posts about being a CAI grad get deleted rather quickly, no matter how much that fact is denied!  )
I disagree.
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I disagree with you
I totally disagree! I am not new; I have 22 years of experience as a medical transcriptionist. I think of "newbie" as a somewhat affectionate term. It is used in many other fields as well. I don't find it at all demeaning. When I am posting, I do not want to have to write out "new transcriptionists" all the time. Let's hear from those new to the field, though - do they mind?
I disagree
M-TEC and Andrews are the best schools out there. If you have a decent GPA upon graduation, you are pretty much guaranteed a job. Quality MTs are desperately needed, and these 2 schools produce quality MTs.
Actually, I disagree
"Spelling correctly should be second nature for an mt, whether it is an email or a quick response to a post."
If I'm sending an email to my boss, you better believe I spell check it. Taking a test for a job? Obviously that too. Posting on a forum? Not on your life.
I do glance at my posts 90% of the time to see if I catch obvious errors, but I could care less if my spelling skills impress strangers on a gab forum. Not to mention, in our profession of using typing shortcuts all day, I'm lucky if I remember HOW to spell these days.
I disagree...for me anyway :)
Working two hours before getting up is not at all burdensome on my body. I guess it depends on who you are. I've been doing this 11 years and have had no problems. Two hours FLIES by for me still to this day. If you're somebody with back problems, etc., then yes, I would say every hour get up and move your body. I do ankle circles and stretch my leg out while sitting in between reports to keep the circulation going in my legs. :)
Sorry got to disagree
No disrespect but I do not think that is fair or all the way true. I feel it is more frustration than complaining. To spend thousands of dollars on school to constantly be told 'No' or 'You need experience' can be frustrating to anyone. I mean we are human and not fortunate to have had a job as a MT for 25 + years as yourself (congrats btw) so please be a little more open minded and understanding what us newbies are going through. No need for you to complain due to your resume, but us newbies are trying to get there. Just a lil bit more positive feed back would be helpful.
I totally disagree with you
I took Allied's course and I have two jobs. I applied with over 100 companies, and all of them allowed me to test. It was my decision on whether to take their offers or not. Some of the tests I did not pass, I cannot lie about that. But I totally DO NOT blame it on Allied.
For people to post on these boards saying that they HAVE to take the M-Tec or Andrews course is just insane. I do agree that there are some schools that do not prepare you. All of the jobs saw that I took the Allied course and still let me test.
I do not know why people are so quick to judge or try to bring new MTs down.
I disagree that 6 cpl is tops
I am also a recent CS grad. I was offered several positions and only 1 paid less than 6 cpl and that was for an extern position. The rest of the offers were 6.5-7.5 cpl. I hate to see grads who take jobs for less than 6 because they think that is all they are worth. There are better jobs out there.
I do think the main problem is your line count though. Even at 7 or 8 cpl, you won't make much money if you are only transcribing 100 lph. I would look into ways to increase productivity. Are you using your Expander to its fullest potential? Are you staying focused your whole shift? Are you finding you spend a lot of time researching? What is it that is keeping you from making more than 100 lph? I have been working for 6 months doing acute care work and average 150 lph, but can hit 200-220 on a good day.
I disagree 100% with your advice.
Every hour take a 15 min break? OMG! It will take them all day to get their work done!
A 5-min break after working solidly for 2 to 3 hours is more effective.
Books go out of date every year. However, having a handful of great reference websites keeps you in the know at all times. Do stay away from chat boards while you are working.
If it takes more than 4 letters, make an expansion for it but only do a handful each week. Write them down and put up so you can see them. Don't do anymore new ones until you've actually memorized and easily incorporate the current ones in your work. Using Expanders must be as natural as typing the words themselves.
Totally disagree
Congratulations should NEVER be spelled incorrectly by an MT. We are grammar and spelling specialists, are we not? In my opinion, if you are not able to put together an e-mail with correct spelling and grammar, you are in the wrong business (and I don't mean a little typo). From what I've seen, there are plenty of people in this business who should not be because they can't use the English language properly. That's the basis of all other MT learning and skills. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
I disagree. I've been in a
position of hiring and training MTs and I've worked with several Career Step grads. Some were very good and some not so good. I really think the bottom line is the actual MT. They will get out of any program what they they put into it regardless of the money they spend. I've worked with Career Step graduates who had absolutely no grammar skill whatsoever and were still communicating like a teenager on IM, but they heard that Career Step gets them the job. It may get them in the door, but staying afloat in this business is a whole different story.
Not that I disagree with you totally, but (see inside)
there just aren't many hospitals in many areas any more where people can work. Many of them hire services.
Graduates of Andrews School and M-Tec seem to have no problem getting hired or keeping their jobs at home right out of school. "Grads" of the "matchbook" schools are the ones who need all the extra in-house assistance.
I disagree. Newbies deserve respect too.
You get what you give in this world! I don't care who you are or what you do, and I especially don't care what your position is and how much money you make, everyone deserves to be treated with respect, even newbies!
disagree with scam part about equipment above...sm
keep in mind that if you are applying to a company who is hiring independent contractors, that the IRS definition of employee vs. contractors hinges on three main areas, one of which is how much control the "employer" has over the worker. If the employer is providing equipment to get the job done, the IRS tends to look upon this as more of an employer-employee relationship. So if you are applying for a job that is independent contractor status, remember you are self employed and have to provide your own equipment.
Employee vs. Independent Contractor Status is a hot area of IRS Audits.The IRS, state taxing agencies, as well as the Departments of Labor (which are responsible for Unemployment tax collections) have been stepping-up their audit activities. The purpose of the audit is to misclassify a subcontractor as an employee. The taxing agency can then collect the taxes which "should have been withheld" as well as large fines, penalties and interest. So if you want to be an IC, expect to provide your own equipment.
Disagree. MT is dying. Get out and don't loook back.
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I have to disagree. I think it's a great field and I make
Disagree. We have a gravy account that we, as IC's, provide our own equipment and pay for
a token to get into the software. Big deal. You pay $150 for a C-phone and $150 for the token but then you make scads of money! So would weigh the ROI (return on investment). Not a hard and fast rule to never buy equipment you can't use on another account.
Allied
I am halfway through my courses with Allied and feel like I'm learning a lot. I hope you find a job fast. :)
Rhonda
Allied
I am halfway through my classes with Allied and have been happy with them so far. Before signing up, I called many times with questions and everyone was very helpful. Once I paid, I had all my materials within a week and they even called to make sure I got them and everything was there. They have called a few times since to see if I had any questions and how I was liking the class. They called a couple of weeks ago to congratulate me on passing my terminology class and wished me luck on the transcription course. If you want to email me privately, I can give you the name of the person that I deal with. He's been very helpful to me.
Allied
Thank you so much for the response. I am just so frustrated and can't wait to get a job. It is great to hear someone else went through Allied and did find employment. Thank again.
Allied
I am currently enrolled with Allied Schools in California. I know that there is more than 1 location for Allied. Will employers hire you even though you haven't completed the course work?
Allied
I graduated last March from Allied (Laguna Hills, CA) and paid the 900.00 for their "career assistance". I am STILL unemployed and quite frustrated. They are great at keeping me posted and send plenty of links for assessment tests, but all of the links they send me clearly state that you need 2 years of experience to even be considered for employment. I was recently told that they had a partnership with a transcription company that had agreed to hire new graduates. I was so excited and faxed all of the necessary paperwork only to be told that the response was "overwhelming" and now the company has decided to put together a recruiting team to design assessment tests that the graduates will have to pass. I have asked repeatedly for a position as an intern and will work for little to no pay as long as there is a job waiting for me at the end of my internship. I still am waiting for word on an intern program although I was assured 4 months ago that such programs would be available to me if I was interested. My advice is hold onto your 900.00. As for the training, you're right, it's too late. I wish I had paid a little more money to a school that had mentoring or intern programs available to their graduates. Hindsight is always better! Good Luck and please let me know if you find anything.
How do you know about Allied? Did you go there?
How do you know about Allied? Did you go there?
Allied
Sorry if this is a repeat post--I am actually almost done with Allied's MT program. the only complaint I have about them is the VERY LONG turnaround time in the grading of the transcription assignments. I am already a RN, so it isn't so difficult for me; I am already familiar with the terminology. They are very attentive, they check on me often, and they produced a fantastic resume for me. I also have a lifetime of job placement services if needed. So for me, it's worth it. It is just taking longer than I had originally anticipated.
I went to Allied
I graduated from them over two years ago and had a job within a month. My MTSO has told me many times that he is so glad that he took a chance on hiring a newbie because I am one of his best transcriptionists, and he just hired another newbie. You get out of any course what you put into it. Allied is fine, you just have to put the time into it.
Allied
I went to Allied too, I am really unhappy, I paid the extra $1000 for the job assistance and well, I could really use that $1000 since I have no job yet. I test all the time and the only company that wanted me so far is a scam operation and I ended up loosing a lot of money. They say they provide jobs for life. Well I'm still alive and waiting. Good luck to you.
ALLIED
Okay, so I am about 85% done with the Allied Business School Medical transcription course. I have done very well and gotten pretty much 90% to 100% up until this point, whereas now, as it is getting increasingly difficult am struggling through getting 80% to 90% when I'm lucky. But here's my question to you all. I have been reading through the posts here on Allied and needless to say, it has NOT been encouraging. I realize that with any message board there is a lot of negativitiy if you are searching for it. I have learned a lot. I quit work almost 2 years ago to be at home and concentrate on the studying. We are in desperate need of my income in our family and I am beginning to worry that I made the wronog choice in choosing Allied. They told me that there was job placement with benefits upon graduation. Now, I read here and see that I may have been misinformed. So, what would you do if you were me? I in now way would quit at this point after investing over $3000. But, should I search for further study or just hope that I can find work and if not, try Walmart? I plan on really going all out, but we can't afford an additional 2-year-long search for employment after taking 2 years off for study!
I like Allied
I feel like I am learning alot and they are always quick to help and/or assist. I am annoyed with the long waiting times for grades.
I also took the MT course from Allied
Are you talking about the Allied located in California? If so, I just graduated from there in December. The MT course can be difficult. The more you do, the easier it gets. If you ever have any questions, please e-mail me. I will try to help. My e-mail is gaburick@hotmail.com.
Allied
I really feel mislead by Allied as they gave me the impression that they would place me in a job when I had graduated. So far they have not done anything to help other than make a resume
Yes, I graduated from Allied
I graduated on Aug. 3, 2006, and it only took me a week to find a job. I just found a list of MT companies, applied, and tested at every one that would allow me to. You know, a year later, I don't work from home anymore, but I work at an Air Force base hospital making a lot of money. Just stick in there and apply everywhere you can.
I also graduated from Allied... sm
I found a full-time per diem position fairly quickly at my local hospital. However, they downsized a few weeks later and the four of us in per diem positions were let go. So I can TOTALLY relate to your frustration, as I am now also again looking. Hang in there, the jobs are out there.
I'm not an Allied grad, but if they can't/won't help you get a job
after they "supposedly" trained you to be an MT, you sure as heck do NOT want to give them another 900 bucks. There is no way that is going to help you find a job.
Allied/New Grad
I wouldn't pay them another 900 bucks. They should have given you a business communication class that would have helped you to write a great cover letter and resume. You can get some good advice on Career Builders and websites like it on how to write your cover letter and resume. Did you do an externship/internship? If you did not, you should definitely gain some experience that way first. Your school should be able to help you out with that and should have done that for you.
Also, don't wait until you graduate to look for work, the sooner you start the faster you will work. Just don't give up! I graduated in December and just now got hired by some one, and I graduated with high honors. It can take awhile, but my understanding is that now is the "season" that the MT business picks up, and you are more likely to find a job now than later. Good Luck!
Allied Medical Schools
Yes, I am trying to find out if this school is a good school or not. Can someone give me some info on this school if possible.
Thanks
Allied Business School
Has anyone out there actually graduated from Allied and found employment? I finised their medical transcription program on 10/25/07 and have yet to get any kind of job offer. I have sent tons of resumes with no luck. I am so frustrated I can't even begin to tell you. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I just want to find somewhere to start. Thank You. 
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
 Has anyone else out there taken MT courses from Allied Business Schools, Inc. - and if so - have you had any trouble finding a job?
Allied Business Schools
I also graduated from Allied and I have had a terrible time finding employment. I graduated in October and have yet to start working.
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
I graduated from their course in Aug. 2006. I found employment within two weeks, of course, with no help from Allied. I went to Google and found as many transcription companies as I could and applied to all of them that would let me. I did a lot of foot work.
Just keep testing, and eventually, you will find employment. I know it is rough to get started, but it will eventually pay off. I just got a job working at a hospital on an Air Force base (coincidentally the same base my husband is stationed at), and I didn't even apply for the job. The staffing company that has the contract found my resume on Monster.com and called me. I don't work at home anymore, but it is a steady paycheck.
If you are this new to the business, then you might want to consider working outside the home just to get your foot in the door.
Hope this helps! If you have any questions, you can e-mail me, and I will help you out in any way that I can.
Allied/ Soon-to-be new graduate question
Has anyone had any experience with Allied? I am completing my training through them and although they have been very helpful, I have regretted my decision to go to school there (after reading numerous message boards, they simply are not the best school but it’s too late now!) Anyhow, I am looking for anyone who is currently going though OR graduated from Allied's MT program. I would love some helpful suggestions on how to get a job after graduation (the famous question!) Allied suggested that I pay 900 bucks to be placed in their "lifetime career assistance program" which assists you with your resume and helps you find a job. Does anyone think it's worth the $$$? Has anyone graduated from Allied and found a job? If so, please respond!! ANY SUGESTIONS from MT's would be greatly appreciated-I feel like I'm in the dark and don't want to make another bad decision!!! Thanks a bunch!
Can someone that graduated from Allied please respond...
Can someone that graduated from Allied please respond... I really want to here from current or graduated students.
Thank you.
I'm a trainer at my Job and I get Allied grads
Lynette,
I've found the key to making it work for Allied grads is to follow up with a good internship and job training placement.
We do this at our company and we have Allied grads who work out fine. What they seem to need is 2 to 3 more months of hands on training to be ready to produce valuable work.
There is no reason to give up or quit and spend $3400 with Andrews to be able to retake APT (anatomy, physiology, terminology). And I believe Allied uses the SUM material for Beginning Med Typing- SUM has been around for decades I think.
A recent trainee of mine went to Allied and followed up with internship at Med Workshops. The internship made it happen for her. She is now doing fine and going on 1-1/2 yrs employed with us.
I want to go a little further on this subject:
Tuition is going to have to go down in the current economic climate. $3400 and up for tuition is just too steep for most people. Even the best schools will be hit hard by the reduction in discretionary spending.
Allied Medical School....
I have been taking the MT course through Allied Medical School.. Anyone ever heard about them? Also, they allow you to take the quizzes and test online open~book...will this hurt me in the long run? And, how do I become "certified"? Will I have to go take a certification test somewhere???????????
Allied doesn't care if you learn anything OR if you get a job. They just want their $$. nm
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I've seen many, many Allied grads who can't find a job. sm
I also know many people who hire MTs who do employment testing, and "most" Allied MTs can't pass the employment tests. That's why many companies just say they require 2 years' experience and won't even test Allied grads.
Check your Wal-Mart or McDonald's for Allied grads...
You'll have a better chance finding them working there than working in MT.
You're welcome.
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