I'm assuming you didn't take courses from one of the better
Posted By: me on 2008-05-14
In Reply to: Newbie in Need of Mentor - Mildred Trent
schools as they help with job placement. Have you looked into companies offering menitoring programs. I would love to mentor a newbie, but I get paid to produce lines.
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You are assuming, of course, that MTs will do their
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She didn't say she didn't have the skills. She said she didn't have the experience.
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I didn't find it rude that you didn't agree with me. That doesn't
matter. We don't have to agree. What I found rude and condescending was the way you hammered away at how you had to have training, saying that anybody with common sense would know that you had to go to school to be an MT; things like that are what I found rude. Some of us did just what you said couldn't be done. Like I said, it doesn't matter if we agree or not. We all have our opinions and are entitled to them. Just don't try to tell me that what I, and others, have already done is not possible. 
Years ago you didn't need a certificate, didn't even
need experience, but things have changed. Unless your mentor is going to sit by your side 24/7 I would recommend finishing the class, because you need to have a knowledge base in place. I have seen recent posts though where companies willing to hire newbies will not hire those who has taken from the program that you are taking.
Why do we have to take more courses
Why should we have to take more courses when we just graduated to get hired somewhere. That doesn't make any sense. Are there any companies hiring new graduates without this retarded request?
best on-line courses?
Hi all,
I'd like to take an on-line MT course; can anyone recommend one over any others? I plan on doing an internship for experience when I'm done for a while so I can get an actual paid position. How hard will it be to start working from home as I have a 20 month old that I want to stay at home with.
Thanks!
To compare courses ...
Why don't you check out Andrews and MTec's websites to get an idea of how much actual dictation you should have had to transcribe. Radiology is mostly anatomy, so if you had thorough training in anatomy and physiology along with concentration on acute care, you had proper training for radiology, IMO.
Just like home MT courses, not all SM
community college courses/programs are created equally.
I respectfully disagree with you about community college graduates receiving a sub-par education. Some maybe, but definitely not all.
I attended an EXCELLENT program at Mt. Hood Community College in Gresham, Oregon. The program director is a CMT. We had 2 semesters of medical terminology, 2 semesters of anatomy and physiology, pharmacology, a medical calculations class, a medical ethics class, 3 semesters of medical coding, 5 semesters of medical transcription (we transcribed the beginning and advanced SUM tapes two times each), business communication (intense grammar course), a 360-hour externship at a local hospital or MT service, along with all of the general education courses needed to receive an associate's degree.
So, while some CC programs may not put out qualified transcriptionists, others do an excellent job of preparing their students to succeed. I tested with and was hired by Medquist the month before I graduated, and I started the Monday after graduation. Granted I was a newbie and was slow and made some silly mistakes (as all newbies do), but I had a solid education, which made a huge difference.
So if you are trying to decide which program to attend, make sure you do your homework (whether you are choosing a home correspondence course or choosing to attend a community college program). Find out what classes are taught, which transcription tapes they use, whether or not they help with job placement, who is running their program, etc. Knowledge is power! :) Good luck to all of you who are struggling with this important decision. 
Warmly,
Chickadee
Cheap MT courses
A course from M-Tech or Andrews may or may not get you a job right after completion, but that's not the only way to get into the field. I took the good advice of some very helpful MTs from this board and shopped around my area for a job. With my meager PCDI education that I studied over about a year and spent $795 for, I was able to get a position at my local hospital ($15/hour!!). I will be in-house for a while, and then I will have the option of working from home. You do what will work best for you, but I didn't have an extra three grand lying around to train for a job when I could pay out less money and then get paid to better my skills.
cheapie MT courses
Some, not all, seasoned MTs are not very helpful. They can be very discouraging and try to convince new MTs that unless they get their training from some expensive school like M-Tec or the Andrews School that they won't find a job; I wanted to train with one of the aforementioned schools but just could not afford it. Most of my MT training was on the job. In later years, I took a Medical Terminology course. Currently, I am enrolled in a formal training program, because I would like to become an RMT and eventually a CMT. This is how I found a recent MT job: 1) posted my resume on MT daily; 2) posted my resume on Transcription Matters; 3) company contacted me and made me an offer without my even testing with them; all this occurred within little over a week's time. I only have 4 solid years of MT experience (specializing in Urology, Rehabilitative Medicine, and Psychiatry). Hallejulah!
NO courses can offer certification
Just to clarify, there are no courses which can offer "certification" in medical transcription, so there aren't any "certification courses."
If you want certification, you have to take the AAMT certification examination, which, if you pass, will grant the CMT certification.
Other than that, you can take a course which will give you a "certificate of completion." And that is only worth the price of a piece of paper. Having that piece of paper is not what will get you a job.
What gets you a job is the ability to transcribe well enough that an employer doesn't have to train you all over again.
And then you have to keep it, so the transcription skills you pick up in school had better be top-notch or you'll be wishing you had just gotten a job at MacDonald's.
Cheapie Correspondence Courses
Hi everyone,
I really need some advice. I've looked into all sorts of different MT training courses - all I want (and need in the amazing job market in which I live) is a basic course to learn Medical Terminology and basic MT skills.
With this in mind - would taking a course like Stratford Career Institute's course, or ICS Canada's course help me get an entry level MT job? From there, would I be able to train on the job and take additional courses to gain more skills?
I am fortunate to live in a market where there are too many of these jobs and not enough workers. I even heard from one person that with just Medical Terminology you can sometimes get an MT job.
But, I thought at least one of these courses would teach me the very basics. Opinions?
Thanks,
Christina
They are legit, just not good. To take their courses you have to have
8th grade education, which should tell you they aren't that great right there. My teen son took one of their courses (not MT). It was very poorly written, if you flunk a test you can take it again and they will pass you, even if you flunk it again. There were lots of errors in it too.
I would look into a different program to take or try to find a menitoring program. It is difficult for people who have gone to some of the better schools to get jobs. Penn Foster does not have a good reputation so it will be much more difficult for you to get a job. I would try to find something local where you could work in-house for at least 2 years to get some experience.
MT schools are in the BUSINESS of selling MT courses.
Of course they are going to paint a rosy picture of this career.
Allied is not a very good course, and the MT companies know it. That's why they say they require 2 years' experience. (But they will waive that for grads of the better schools.)
Career step and Meditec-sister courses-sm
I understand these are two in the same course ran by sisters. One charges much more than the other. What makes Career Step any better than Meditec if the Meditec course is basically what Career Step is using to begin with, and the Meditec lady wrote the course?
People selling MT courses certainly aren't going to warn you
"Don't take my MT course, it's ***edited by Moderator*** and you won't be able to get a job afterwards." It's up to the person interested in becoming an MT to do some research about the job before plunking down money for training. If they do, they will learn that in order to be able to get a decent job, they need the kind of training provided at Andrews School or M-TEC, and not to try to save money on "cheaper" schools.
It's sad that people don't find out more about these courses before they slap down money
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The courses worth taking are M-Tec and Andrews. Their graduates
are usually able to get jobs without 2 years of experience that is normally required. Is if worth it? Do you have small children, a husband, do you want a social life - then no it isn't worth it. If you just want to do this PT, in addition to a FT job, it might be okay for a short time, but it gets harder and harder to make a living as an MT. A lot of companies use offshore MTs, they get the good work and the crap gets left for us, or it all goes and we get stuck editing it for pennies and you end up working for minimum wage. You'll also burn out in a short time trying to do both.
if there is just you and you don't care to have a life then it would be okay and if you have a knack for it you can make some decent money. If you are a respiratory tech in a hospital talk to people in your department. Maybe you can start out doing work-related transcription without having to go to school and you can get a small taste of what it is like to see if you really want to pursue it.
I didn't go to any of the BIG 3
And I did not have a problem either. I worked hard, got extra practice dictation and did a lot of extra work on my own. I got my first job, stayed there until I moved. They gave me such a good reference letter that I have had no problems landing clients since. Every single one has their own style and requirements, so the learning curve is always going to be there anyway. I interviewed a person who went to one of the top 3, and she didn't have a clue, by the way. It is all in how seriously you take the work, just like anything else.
didn't think of that!
Thanks! I just did it, and I think for the most part that did do it. I looked at EVERYTHING else! LOL
I didn't think so.
Can't hurt to ask.
I didn't about that.
Thank you Deb. That IS a very valid point. I appreciate your quick reply.
I didn't know....sm
I didn't know there was paid internships where you get paid for the work. I didn't have an AHDI approved school I don't believe so I didn't have that luxury. Wish I had though.
Didn't like my answer?
Didn't like my tone? That's just too damn bad. Get over it. I told you the truth. If you don't want to heed the truth, that's your problem, not mine.
Didn't mean to insult you . . .
I didn't mean to insult you. When I make suggestions like that, it's as much, or even more, for others who would read the posts later. Few people have that much money on hand--this is a topic that will be google-able for years. Maybe someone can use the ideas to finance their child's tuba lessons some day.
Look at it this way . . . you may have the money in the bank, but if you can get some cash by selling stuff you don't need, you'll have a roomier habitat and "free" schooling, too. Well, sort of free. You might not have to dip into savings that way.
It IS a lot of money. If it were me, knowing what I know, I'd feel a lot insecure about forking over that kind of cash.
but they didn't respond to me
They responded to a new MT, who responded to me. Therefore, they *did* read what I wrote correctly.
Kind of like W.C. Fields, a well-known atheist. He was found to be reading the bible and when asked why he said, "I'm looking for loopholes."
The MTSO found a loophole.
I didn't see it but for some reason
most of my posts and responses don't get deleted even when things get thick! I don't take it personally or think much about it when it does happen. I've seen things that seemed very benign get deleted, not just here but other places. Seems like it is just the way things work.
No, they didn't mind at all that I was new.
In fact, I think they preferred it. That way, they can train me to do things their way. And no, I won't be the only one transcribing. They have one Transcriptionist that has worked there for 6 years and I will be helping her out. I will only have to work in the office for approx. 1 hour per day and the rest at home. They said I could work as many or as few hours as I need to. I've thanked them very kindly every day this week for giving me this opportunity.
I hope you can find something soon as well. It is so frustrating trying to get the required experience.
The OP didn't say anything about any thing other than TV
As I stated before, I work when my little one watches certain programs; however, there are bigger issues here just as you brought up. What I got from the original poster was exactly what those fly-by-night get-rich-quick while you stay at home with your kids try to sell newbies and don't prepare a new MT for the REALITY of working from home, especially with small children. Had the original poster said "in addition to having puzzle time, block building time, playing in the sand time, what good programs will help?" I would have felt differently but that is NOT how the original post was worded.
I'm lucky because I have learning centers set up. I don't rely on extensive TV to get my work done. Plus I'm not a newbie with unrealistic expectations and a huge learning curve to face while there are 2 little ones vying for my attention. It is certainly possible to have kids stay home and work, but to rely heavily on TV IMHO is wrong thinking for the future of our children. I take advantage of mother's day out as I am single with a child who was dropped on my door by a mom who didn't want to play mommy anymore. I have a child with no social skills, who doesn't know what home cooked food is, who never before had a regular schedule, didn't know another child her own age...I could go on and on.
My point is that having a variety of activities, interactions, settings is much better for a child than relying on hours of TV (the OP mentioned morning shows plus wanted more suggestions for other times, which indicates wanting to have the TV babysitting them). If you don't see it that way, read the OP again.
My child can go outside and play on my patio and I can watch and talk to her from my desk. How could a newbie who needs no distraction do something like that. TV. My child can ride around the house, collecting pretend mail while singing and I'll join in while waiting for the doctor to flip through the chart. How will a newbie handle that? TV.
I think you and I are arriving at the same endpoint, but interpreting the OP with different POVs. You never addressed the OP's obvious lack of insight about ENTERING the MT at home world with stay-at-home children. I did.
Didn't mean to jump on you
I'm sorry if I was overly defensive - I'm just so very frustrated. I'm glad things worked out for you, and I feel that if things had been handled differently, I would have been perfectly happy finishing the course. My problem has not been with the content of the course, but with their lack of help when I begged for someone to actually check on why the materials never arrived. I asked nicely about 8 or 9 times before I finally lost it. And then, when I lost it, they punished me for speaking out. These are not the actions of a reputable business, and their lack of response now makes them look even worse. But again, I'm glad for you and good luck.
I didn't say I was just going to wake up and be an MT
I didn't just say I want to be an MT. I said I was starting school with Career Step. They train you to become a MT.
You didn't say what was difficult about it to be
able to help you.
I didn't indicate that anyone can do it. I simply
stated my experience. I thought that was the reason for this forum, sharing experiences and opinions.
Would you not be upset if someone that you didn't know,
had never met, knew nothing about you or your work ethics questioned everything that you are supposed to know to be able to accomplish you job? The whole tone of your post was condescending whether you meant it to be or not. Almost every sentence said *do you* know this or that and I could only assume that the *you* that was being referred to was me. Just because I didn't go for formal MT training doesn't mean that I have forgotten the basics of grammar. Believe it or not, nurses have to know where to put commas, too. We have to know all the basics of grammar. That's why we're required to take college-level English in our nursing programs. Having CMT behind one's name doesn't make one a good Transcriptionist either; it only means that person is a good test taker. Sure, they have to know the basics, but that doesn't mean they're perfect. Neither am I. I'm quite sure I make mistakes even though I strive to produce a quality report without mistakes. CMTs, just like the rest of us, are constantly learning, too, I hope. So, please think twice about how a post is going to sound before you jump on the bandwagon and beat someone down. Maybe you didn't mean to, but you did anyway. Have a wonderful evening.
Agree. Didn't go to either, but SM
those 2 are the only 2 schools I recommend to anyone who asks me about going into MT (if they insist on going into it even after I've told them the income is going down and not up).
You didn't offend me
Lynn, you wrote a lovely post. And if this board was for MTs only, I'd chime in with you about how I like working from home too. You did not offend me and I certainly do not think you are insensitive. I offer you and anyone else my apologies if what I wrote came off sounding that way. That was not the intent. You have nothing to apologize for.
I am mad at the way the companies play tricks on us and I was just trying to get people to see the other side of this coin if they haven't seen it yet and often newbies don't to the delight of the MTSOs. They love posts like yours. They think that is all we want, so that is what they emphasize when interviewing, and some people think they have found the perfect job only to realize later on that if they're not experienced and can't produce like the wind, all these goodies aren't worth much at bill paying time. If you've got a great job, good for you! I'm happy for you!!
Working from home IS great but let's do all we can to make it even better. We need to learn the other side's tactics and not fall for them to our detriment. I've bought into lies and suffered the consequences. If I can help prevent others from doing so, I want to.
I wish you and everyone nothing but success and the most this job can give you.
Mine didn't, but I am IC
so maybe if you are employed with this company they should be paying you to train.
I didn't think that was sarcastic.
Just stating the truth, which you know since you've been in it for so long. I've been doing this over 20 years too and it hasn't changed now, has it? Every Transcriptionist comes into this business with the bright idea "Why doesn't someone tell the docs to talk slower/faster/clearer/enunciate/speak English". Hasn't worked so far but I guess we can keep trying. 
Well, why ask if you didn't want the answer.
You asked why anyone would get into the industry now. Why ask the question if you didn't want to hear the answer. We weren't necessarily defending our jobs, but explaining why we do it. We make more than working at Wal-Mart and are much happier at home doing MT. If you were just trying to make a point, then just spit it out instead of asking questions you really don't want the answers too.
I agree about the post above, but many of us come to this field with our eyes wide open. I knew what to expect. I knew I would have to work hard to get where I needed to be financially and I have far exceeded my expectations. For some of us, MT does pay and pays well, better than any of the other jobs available in my small town.
You didn't say if you are an MTSO or IC or employee or what. (nm)
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I didn't use a dating website...
but I met my husband online in an AOL chat room. We now have 2 kids and have been together almost 7 years.
sorry, that should be Department-knew something didn't look right
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I didn't have the trouble you described after school.
The school itself was very hard and the work was similar to most of what I did on the job. There were some differences, of course, and I was very slow at first. My experience was different from yours though and the school was the biggest reason for the difference.
I didn't see YOUR name on this message, MTSO!
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I didn't ask about finding work.
I asked if anyone knew anything about Gatlin Education Services.
I didn't go to their website, but I knew they
probably weren't legit because they used 2 different names on 2 different boards to post about their "internship."
Just checked email, didn't see it
Thanks for the email. I just checked my email and did not see anything. I will keep looking, maybe there is a server delay or something. I really do want to know the real deal before taking the leap.
Thanks.
If you didn't go to one of the better schools your chances of
getting a job are slim. There are probably 100 schools out there, the majority of them fly by night places that say you can make $40,000/year, etc.....The training that you receive at most of this places is so poor that you (not you specifically) can't even pass the tests to get hired.
If you read past posts there have been lots of people who have been through some of these programs and after they start testing they realize they don't have enough education to get a job and they go back and take one of the better programs, who have a good reputation, and who usually offer job assistance, or they try to find a menitoring program.
I'm not saying there is no way you can get a job if you didn't go to one of the better schools, just that if someone went to Andrews or M-Tec they would have a much better chance than someone who took the At-Home Professions or similar course.
I didn't go to Andrews or M-tech
So no, you do NOT need experience in order to get a job.
I didn't know Allstate went out of business...sm
Do you know why? I did the AIM program and worked for Allstate too.
ShortHand is another good one. I didn't like IT; not simple enough for me! nm
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