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Don't waste your money on Penn Foster.

Posted By: If you want to work as an MT... on 2008-03-10
In Reply to: Thank you - Tasha

go to M-TEC, Andrews, or Career Step. These grads regularly finding jobs right after graduating. Most online companies that allow you to work from home will not hire grads from Penn Foster. You may be able to find in-house work, but since you stated your goal is to work from home, you should check out the 3 schools listed above. Otherwise, you are just wasting you money.


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Don't waste your money. It's ridiculous
to think that you'll get an education for $12.00 or $50.00.

If you are going to invest money in something, invest it in some legitimate tapes at Medword or HPI.
.. So others don't waste their time & money on the same course.
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Dont waste your money on TRSI
Terrible school that takes your money and doesn't teach you anything or answer questions. I didn't learn anything and still can't get a job. I'm going to have to start over and will probably to go to MTEC or Medline. Jeni
Most companies will not hire grads of the "cheap" schools, so it's a waste of money.
Their courses are crap, and the people who do the hiring know it. They don't teach you anywhere near enough for you to be able to work at home on your own.

Also, you will have very little time to study/learn (or work, for that matter) with that many children. You need it quiet, and you need to be able to concentrate. You can't do this job with children running around, or on your lap, or at your feet. You have to do it when they are sleeping, or at school, or have someone watch them (which will most likely cost you money).
Penn Foster?

Hi,


I just came across this wonderful site!


I'm  planning a career in Medical Transcription & would like to know if anyone could recommend an accredited online/correspondence school. (if there is one out there) 


I've received mailings from Penn Foster - formally Education Direct.  Is anyone familiar with them?


Thanks for your time,


Christy


I have seen ads for Penn Foster as well..
but as far as "accredited and reputed" schools. There are 4 or 5, which you can see here:

http://forum.mtstars.com/schools
Penn Foster

Thanks for the info, I had a feeling she should look further.  I had already given my recommendations, but she chose to go this way.  Luckily she had not paid yet, and is now going to re-think this carefully before jumping in again.


Thanks again!



penn foster
what does everyone think of them? are they a good school for MT? i came across them but i am not finding anyone saying much about them..so was wondering what everyones opinions were on them! thanks
penn foster...

I took my training from there, it was actually Eduction Direct when I started. Am not impressed at all with what I recieved to try and get a job in the "real world." If at all possible, I would have my friend try to get into another training program even if it is more expensive. I've read a couple listed here..andrew's and another one-can't remember the name. I'm just happy I didn't foot the bill for the course as I got it through a job retraining situation. I'm doing general transcription while trying to get more training for MT.


Hope that helps.


Penn Foster

Hi,


Has anyone out there graduated from Penn Foster Career school and had any trouble getting work?


Thanks!


Penn Foster
Hi, I am also a soon to be grad of "Penn Foster". As we all know now, its subpar. I'm wondering if getting my RMT would help with future employment? Any thoughts?
Penn Foster
I, too, recently graduated Penn Foster and am having difficulties finding employment. It seems everyone wants 2+ years experience or graduation from a different school..I wish you luck in finding employment.
Unfortunately, Penn-Foster
will not prepare you for the demands and competition of today's MT world. I do not think many MTSOs take it seriously. You would be better off to take your loss and enroll in Andrews or M-TEC. You get what you pay for. There are too many well-trained MTs out there looking for jobs, many with decades of experience, competing for the little work available. Unfortunately, I do not think Penn-Foster is going to give you what you need to compete in the reality of today's MT world. It may not be a complete waste of time and money, but it surely leaves much to be desired.
Christy - Penn Foster
Hi Christy,

When deciding on what school to attend it is very important to do a lot of research. There is a list on this board under "schools". There is a lot of information out their and questions asked about almost every school there is. Read through the web sites, contact schools directly (several so you can compare), then get a list of employers and contact them to see what grads the will hire. There are other websites you can also get infromation on MT Chat and AAMT. It is important to do the research before you decide on what school to attend. In the long run it may cost you a lot more if you try to save in the first place. Choose wisely! Good luck.
Penn Foster transcription
Try Career Step, M-Tec,
or Andrews School for MT training. they are AAMT approved and will help with employment.
Penn Foster Grad

Hi :)  I graduated from there this year.  It is difficult to get a job in Med Transcription if you didn't graduate from the Med-tech, Career Step, or Andrews.  Penn Foster has ads from MRTservices and MediVoxx on their website.  You might want to try one of those.  However, they didn't work out for me, and I tested with both. 


I think MRT was having human resource problems because some new girl took over the position, made me resend all of my tests and then never got back to me.  The first person I was in contact with said I had done well on them.


MediVoxx is a pain to apply for.  I never got my interview, and I think that is partially why I "messed up" on my test.  I didn't do that bad.  For instance, she marked me off for putting "she's" instead of "she is."  Then, she marked me off for putting "Marsha's" and then corrected it by putting "Marsha's" right next to it.  I was wondering what was wrong what the correction was.


I think that the course was good except for the ACTUAL transcription part, which is obviously the most important.  That part was very unorganized, and I didn't like most of the instructors, especially that one guy.


I think I found a good place to work.  I'm doing more testing on Monday.  Email me for details.  I don't want to put it on here. 


Also, you might want to try Focus Infomatics.  I tested there last week, and they called me, but I'm more interested in this other place.  Plus, the posts on here about Focus scared me.


Absolutely do not take Penn Foster.

You only have to have an 8th grade education to make you eligible for their courses, so that should tell you right off the bat it can't be that good of a program.  My teen son took a course through them (not MT) and it was very poorly written and the information wasn't always accurate.


It is a cheap program, but you get what you pay for. 


Trying to say this gently. Penn Foster is

probably one of the worst schools.  I have not seen their MT program, by my 15-YO took one of their other courses.  The only requirement needed to take any of their courses is to have an 8th grade education.  From my son's books that I have seen they are not well written.


I would recommend trying to get an in-house position, taking another course, or find a legitimate menitoring program. 


 


 


I did the Penn Foster route too!
I did the course and I found employment within 1 month of grad. You just have to apply, apply and apply!!! Good luck to you.
Penn Foster grad
I took the Penn Foster course and was hired by the first company I tested for...they knew what school I attended because I put it on my resume. I agree that some schools may be subpar, but that doesn't mean the students/graduates are subpar. If you work hard, you will reap the benefits- no matter what school you attend.
Any luck with Penn Foster?
Has anyone graduated from Penn Foster and had any luck finding a job?
I graduated from Penn Foster sm
I recently started my first MT job after graduating in December 2008. Because of this course, I felt right at home with transcribing hospital reports, which seemed to surprise my new employer. Penn Foster taught me the basics, and I've been able to apply what I've learned to looking up unfamiliar words, etc.

Good luck with whatever you decide!
I'm a Penn Foster Graduate sm
I graduated from Penn Foster in December 2008 and found an MT job within two months after graduating. Before you consider your education from there a total waste, my suggestion would be to apply to some of the companies who don't require two years of experience and see how you do on their tests. If you aren't passing them, then you probably should consider additional education.

If you pass them and the only thing stopping you is lack of experience, you might want to give it a bit of time and continue to apply to every company you can find who will take on a newbie.

Good luck to you!


I would not recommend Penn Foster. In order
to take any of their courses you have to have completed 8th grade, and that is about where the courses are geared to.  My teen son is taking an automotive course through them and he knows more than is in the books and he has found many errors in the books.  They emphasize that the testing is open book and if you do poorly they allow you to test again.  I don't feel like you learn much this way.   While the school itself is an accredited school in most states, I feel like it would be a waste of time and money for MT. 
Penn Foster Career School

I am asking on behalf of a potential new Transcriptionist student about Penn Foster Career School.  Does anyone have any positives or negatives about them and their medical transcription training?



Thanks in advance!


penn foster - questionable practice
I did take a freelance writer's course from penn foster and I found the course not very balanced. There were mainly mutable choice open book questions (for a writer's course?) that were too easy and most of the relevant info I found in other sources.

The other problem with this course was lack of writing for it, lack of practical lessons in the course. The course was designed as a half hearted reporters course that assumed the writer has a college level writing ability. (I had high school level from 17 years ago)

The other problem was lack of professionalism with grading the manuscripts and fuzzy grading system. The Editor (mystery editor-would not disclose who, where or what qualifications the editor had.) was NOT a professional, missed basic mistakes and went out of her way to find mistakes that were not in the script. If she did not care for your story you a poor grade a failed it. (Only 4 manuscripts [test] were required out of 14 test total.

When I called for help, the man on the phone said he could only answer questions from the text book, he could not tell me who graded the manuscript, he said they were sent off campous but would not say where. He then stated, that I would not want to talk to the editor anyways.

I researched the accreditation--which means noithing but they filled out forms and paid a 1,000 dollar or less fee and garentee the MININIMAL standard.

They are a real school, that just moved to Scottsdale AZ by the way, but they operate at a min requirement.

The price is double what the course is really worth, save your money and go to a local college.
Penn Foster transcription program....sm
Has anyone been through this program and if so, how prepared were you for a career in this industry?  I have a neighbor that just told me she has signed up for this and based off of what I've read on their website I'm concerned that she may be wasting her money as there's no mention of actual transcription time - it just talks about learning terminology stuff. 
Is Penn Foster a good school?
I completed MT course at Penn Foster Career School and I'm having trouble finding my first job. Has anyone had experience with this school?
Unfortunately there are NOT as many opportunities as impled by Penn Foster.
It is not a very good school, does not teach you all that you need to know, and most MT companies are aware of that. Sorry.
Penn Foster stinks to put it mildly - sm
Everyone recommends the 3 you mention, years ago (8) I did CAI, a little more affordable, not a bad program though a lot look down on it as well, a little more affordable than the others as well. You will be able to bring in some extra cash, and if all 6 kids in school, I would say $1-2K a month in the long run. Starting probably $600 or so if you work hard. It won't make you rich unless you have you own accounts and a lot of MTs working for you. I have a very busy schedule, only 2 kids and only bring in $1500-1800 a month, but I have a lot going on, I am sure I could get that up to $2500 if I didn't have life happening all the time. But avoid Penn Foster, AT-home professions, etc. Those programs are a joke. I worked with a lady who did Penn Foster, boy was she bad, she did not last long where I worked as she did not listen, made the same mistakes over and over again, etc. I looked over their course and could not believe how bad it was from the decription on the internet, total joke. But MT is a good job if you are looking to supplement an existing income, this what I do, no clue how I would live on $1800 a month, but I would if I had to I guess. As for finding work after, no it is not easy, you have to be persistent and apply everywhere basically. Took me 2-3 months to find a job after I was done my course, I just applied everywhere I could and eventually found 2 places (1 was clinic, the other acute care, the best of both worlds) that would take me and I ran with it, put in my 2 years and have since worked at about 5-6 other places, think I have my niche now, but will probably shoot to get my own accounts soon and get a few MTs working for me so I don't have to work so hard (I hope).
Penn Foster requires an 8th grade
education to take their course, which should tell you a lot.  They are poorly written and your chances of getting a job are only slightly better than if you had not taken the course.  Basically you've wasted your money - in this case you got what you paid for.   I don't mean to sound so harsh, but if you did research before taking the course you would have been much better off.   Your best option at this point is to see if you can get an in-house clinic position or either take a menitoring program. 
I've never heard anything good about Penn Foster
The only time I hear about them is when someone who took that course is complaining they can't get hired.
Penn Foster isn't a good school/program. I would
suggest finding a mentoring program of find an in-house position. 
This post is definitiely an advertisment for PENN FOSTER!..NM
NM
They changed their name from Education Direct to Penn Foster to mislead people ...
when too many people found out what a worthless course it was. She needs to get her money back, and save up enough to take the course at Andrews School or M-TEC.
Allied is no better than At Home Professions or Penn Foster. Not a good school. NM
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Penn Foster & PCDI can't help with job placement because it's too hard to find jobs for their
Not being mean, just honest. There's a reason they won't help with placement. They take your money for their course and don't care if you can get a job afterwards or not. And most people can't, because they are not trained well enough by those courses.
Definitely, go for CS. Don't waste your
money on Andrews. You won't need hand holding through the sciences and vocabulary, and I'm sure you already have all the books you need. Why pay for a bunch of unnecessary materials that you are just going to skim over.

I was in the same position, and chose a less expensive school and have done just fine, and probably better than most.

They will try to sell you the more expensive schools here in a minute. Keep in mind that you don't know who is posting here, if they are school pushers or just school cheerleaders who are brainwashed.

CS will work great for you.
Don't waste your $ on AHP.....sm

I took their course and will not recommend it to anyone.  First of all, they fail to tell you is that most companies won't hire you if you don't have at the very least 2 years experience not including school.  And a lot want even more than that.  It took me almost a year to find a job and for many others I've read about a lot longer.   If you research on the boards you'll find that's a very common problem.  However, you'll also find a "few" who found jobs right away.   By the way, I'm not trying to be discouraging about becoming an MT, just stating that AHP made it sound like you'll get a job right away and you'll be rolling in the money in no time.  HA!


The other thing, and this is what really, really has me so irked about them is that they teach you using standard cassettes for dictation.  There are very few doctors who use them, or mini/micro cassettes, anymore.  Most have gone with the  MTSOs.    That being said, they teach you absolutely NOTHING about the MTSOs, the platforms, expansions, templates, standards, etc.  Come to think of it, I don't even know HOW they dictate.   I think some use their cell phones or something portable.  All I know is it's not a cassette player.   I have absolutely no idea.   Not that it's really important but it would just be kind of nice to know.   T


They also don't teach you about ASR, VRS.  There was 1 little bity paragraph about it in course 5.  All it said was basically that it exists.   AND...at the company I work for, the MT's pay actually decreased (by about 30%, I believe) when they got put on ASR. 


As far as the med term, A&P and other subjects......medicine has come a long way from when those lessons were printed! 


Oh, I did get a chuckle when they said you could use a typewriter if you don't have a computer.  


Another thing, the tapes they give you are  everyone's "dream dictators."   If I could have those docs every single day my line count would be through the roof!  I'd be rich!!   AHP mentions a little something about ESL docs but don't tell ya anything about the American docs who dictate like they're are in the Indy 500 for dictation (it sounds something like this:  dflhofhdfhdkljoehkej....), nor the docs who think it's okay to dictate in the middle of the cafeteria during lunch hour, the ones who carry on conversations with other people while dictating, so you're wasting time which is money to you, or the docs who dictate while driving.  That one's fun.  You get to listen to their radio, the wind from the windows, a train, screaming kids in the backseat, the spouse in the passenger seat talking loudly on the cell.   Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, when it comes to dictating, these people with these 10 years + education and fancy degrees lack common sense when it comes to dictation.  (By the way, you even get an occasional doc who doesn't think you can hear the grunts, gas and plops when they're using the freaking bathroom!!!)  You'll here slurping from drinks, burps, blowing noses, passing gas, hacking, gum chewing/popping.  That's just to name a few. You name it, we've heard it.   Don't get me wrong, we do get those perfect dictations also, but not as often as we'd like and not often enough to make the kind of money we'd like.


That's just a few of the things AHP doesn't teach you about.  There's a lot more you'll find out when you get a job.  I think a major factor in myself getting a job was my 10+ years of experience in the medical field.  Don't take this wrong.  Like I said, I'm not trying to discourage you from becoming an MT.  Some love it, some hate it.  I actually like it.  I just would encourage you to at least research other schools (even your community college, which call it medical language specialist instead of medical transcriptionist) before you decide. It may cost a little more, but it's worth it in the long run.  This is definitely a case of where you get what you pay for.  Besides, a lot of the employers take into account where you got your training from.  I guarantee, if they had a grad from AHP versus a grad from Andrew's or MTec, they'll hire the the one from Andrew's or MTec first.  


Oh, AHP doesn't help you find a job either.  They give you a little packet about making business cards, talking to local docs, etc.  Pretty much stuff you learned in high school when they were preparing you for the work force. 


 


You get what you pay for. Don't waste $442. You'll need it. SM
You can't learn MT for that.
Don't waste your time
Focus is known to hire new MTs, but then they rarely have work available for these MTs. Currently, they have hired a lot of people from my school and have postponed training because there is no work available. I would look elsewhere.
Penn

Thanks for the advice. Has anyone heard anything about Penn Foster? I have also been checking on this one.


Thanks Donna


Penn Fostetr isn't worth the time. Their

classes are geared to an 8th grade level, so basically you would be throwing your money away.   The better schools cost more because they offer a better education and you have a better chance of getting a position as a newbie, though it will still be difficult.  If you take the Penn Foster class it will end up costing you more because you'll need more schooling if you expect to get a job.   Why people are even looking at this profession anymore is beyond me.  


Money

 


What are the chances of making $35K yearly and still having your wits? That is really what I am concerned with. I live in South Florida and am considering this profession. I would like to make enough to supplement husband's income of $85K. However, I don't want to be so stressed out that I can't enjoy life, either. Is there a happy medium here?


money

Those are good ideas.


Its not that I don't have the money, I just have a hard time spending large amounts.  I can fritter away $100 here and there at Target and Walmart, but, phew, a $1500 check is hard to write. 


We actually have enough money in savings, IRAs and investments to live at our current standard for at least 18 months without either of us working.  Not that I would want to do that, but it could be done.  So, its not that I don't have the money, its just a matter of spending it. I'm sure you can tell that since we have almost 2 years of living expenses saved up in the bank (and we have about 30-35 yrs to go til retirement), we are kind of tight with spending money.


Thanks for the suggestions though. I do need to have a Yard Sale, as much to get rid of stuff as to get some cash on hand. I have a pile of childrens' clothes to take to the resale shop for some cash too.



Where is the money at?

I was wondering...do MTs make better money working for someone or having a business of there own?  Just wondering.  I realize being new I will not have my own business for a couple of years but will I be able to make a "living" until then?


Big name=big money when you-sm
can get the same elsewhere at much lower prices. This board and its members often advocate only three schools that charge more than the others and don't offer a lot more. Most companies don't even know these names and could care less as long as you have a certificate and are certified. If you look into these higher priced courses, the only thing different is that they might use the more expensive transcription tapes, that's about it. These courses, all of them, are basically taught by sending you a few books then it's up to you as an individual to make it work. You will see members of the big three schools advertising their wares left and right here and everywhere they see someone looking. They are out to make a catch, so don't be fooled by the nonsense you here about their grads being the only ones being hired out of school. That's total bull and being said their by their little advertising cheerleaders, as well as the owners themselves who have no pride or too much. They order a bunch of books, sell them to you at twice the price and sit back and rake in the profits.
The money isn't what it used to be, and
job security isn't what it used to be.

It might still be a good career for somebody who is especially suited to it. That is, someone who has outstanding skills in written English and has the time and money to to to one of the best schools (Andrews and M-Tec are two two IMO, and cost about $4000. Some people have reported it took them 9 months to graduate, just to give you an idea). He or she must be interested in constantly researching new things and learning every day. You need a great work ethic, especially if you end up working at home. It isn't easy to sit at a computer at home working when there are so many things at home calling for your attention. You need to be able to invest in books/CDs, computers, and equipment when necessary. There are many factors to consider. You should go to Monster.com. I think you can take little tests there to see what kind of work you are suited to. You'll be happier in your work if you choose something you will be good at.
No money for us
Simple....corporate greed. Make more money sending work abroad. It'll turn around, may take a while but once the first big law-suit happens, it'll turn around.
I never said she owed me any money.
nm
Before you spend your money -

Do tons more research before you spend your money, please!  I went to MTEC, graduated in 9 months, and have been working from home for more than 8 years now doing acute care.  I had recruiters banging down my door to test and was offered positions after every test I took.  The little medical backround you already have is nowhere near enough to be an MT, so get a SOLID education so you will not come back here at the end begging for someone to hire you for 2 cents a line.  Best of luck!