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Anything coming from the AAMT holds no water anymore - they invalidated their status

Posted By: Marci on 2006-06-03
In Reply to: The worst schools would like you to think the approval process means nothing - I question your logic.

when they sold us out for the $$ in India. AAMT means another chance to screw MT's, that's all.


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The AAMT and the "Top Three" just feed each other - so-called approval by AAMT means nothing

a lot of community college programs are far better than the "top three." Just make sure you get plenty of actual dictation. If you don't have good grammar skills and aren't a literary-type person this may not be the field for you. I can't tell you the unbelievable applications I get for MT jobs - misspelled words, sloppy grammar, and how about those st*pid email addresses  THEHOT1@aol.com, etc. Sheesh. If you're one of THOSE, then be prepared to look for a   l o n g   time to get your first job LOL


Questions regarding IC status

I just received a position as an IC. I have never been one before so how do I figure taxes and such? Also, I have been told that I would be able to deduct a lot of things since I do this out of my home.  What are some things that I can deduct? I was guess internet service but couldn't figure out anything else.


Thanks for the help.


 


its employee status only -disregard my ? NM
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It only took me a couple of months to get out of unpaid status!
Great to get my foot in the door!
You are the One Coming Off as Rude.

How do you think it feels to mothers who work in-house to see you saying there's no way you'll work out of the house, your real job is a mom, blah, blah, blah??  You don't think they feel guilty at times because they can't find an at-home position or they can't afford to give up the in-house job and benefits? 


That's what irked me about your post.


Yes, since the 2008s are coming out now. Update them every
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Funny how you keep coming back and posting this - sm
Makes me think YOU are the "owner" of Proficient Transcription. Hmmmmmm...


Reading between the lines, the work is coming
from India and no experienced MT would be willing to work for peanuts to basically have to redo the report. 
I don't think so. Not anymore. Used to be
GREAT but you must understand, medical transcription is now available in a global market. The Internet has made it possible for every Tom, Rick and Harry in India to make their services available. These people are not dumb. They are very hard working. Most of them hold TWO master's degrees.  Now, granted their quality is not too good now... but just wait. Let them get a few years under their belts and you will really see India take off as competitors. Furthermore, on a DAILY BASIS, I hear from others in MT who lose jobs to voice recognition, which now works, and electronic medical records, a point and click system. My own service holds a physical therapy account that brings in $70,000 per year. Five people work part time on it and the department is now implementing a voice recognition system. Bye Bye Gravy Account. In the Big Services, i.e. Medquist, etc. they have gone to voice recog with back end editing. What it really means is the MT goes in and cleans up what the computer missed. Now it used to be you could get 9, 10, cents per line typing the report. But editing takes JUST AS LONG, only because it's "easier" you only make 5, 6, 7 cents per line. The customer gets it at a lower price, the service keeps its margin, the MT gets screwed. The only dictators left to do are the ESL, and what a bear. So if you want to invest $4000 to make $4 per hour, IF you land a job, be my guest. I have 20+ years watching this field, and it's on its way out. If you think things are bad now, check back in another year. They will be much, much worse.
When you don't hear from QA anymore nm
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Industry certainly isn't the same anymore - sm
I'm a +35-year MT and still going strong, had my own business, worked in-house for hospitals/docs, done it all, work for MTSO now, but just like other industries, a lot has changed and most not for the good. I have stayed with an MTSO for only a couple of reasons - My husband has been transferred many times over the years all over the country and this is one job that I can keep doing wherever my next address is . . .I can visit family and take my work with me when I travel. It is a very isolating profession to be at home, lack of social networking and getting to meet people in new areas.

I have numerous docs for medical conditions and not one of them uses a Transcriptionist anymore, all have their own laptops they carry around. So much is offshored, VR is taking over for many facilities, and many transcription services have been gobbled up over the years by larger ones, also much of it not for the good . .I am just hoping to hang on for 10 more years until I can retire, but I'm not even sure how much of a demand there will be for my years of knowledge and quality work - it's all about the bottom line for these MTSOs and medical facilities - I saw the writing on the wall about 20 years ago or so in Calif when managed care started. One doctor I worked 15 years for was very involved in fighting it with insurance companies as HMOs moved in, of course, to no avail. It all trickles down eventually. I know many people in the business and with whom I keep in touch, and we all feel the same way. It's just sad.

It used to be you could find a mentor to see you through the early years - I had one and that was worth more than my college degree in some ways. I still believe that work experience in-house for acute care/multispecialty is still necessary to gain a good grasp of what transcription is about, but I'm old school, and I'm sure some will disagree - I tried to train/employ new MT's for my business right as they were getting started, and 90% of them just didn't get it, no matter what their courses - an at-home transcription course or college graduate - I couldn't believe the lack of comprehension of the English language in most of them.

This has just been my own personal experience I'm passing along. Overall would I recommend this profession to someone looking to get started in it - NOT ANY MORE.

Disclaimed: Please excuse any typos/grammar errors to those who love to play transcription police - I'm doing this very fast, as I am in the middle of working and typing on a separate keyboard off to the side - always have numerous computers going for different things. I normally don't even post on here, but I happened to click on the wrong board and this caught my eye - I'm sure this subject has been brought up many times here.

I truly am empathetic to your situation and wish I could give you a more uplifting opinion. Good luck to you and anyone else in the same boat.


Legal aspects mean nothing anymore
India isn't the only place, how about the Phillipines. Yes, it's going there too. They're being trained specifically for this work, hundreds of them. So more and more will be going away from the U.S. Your medical privacy rights mean NOTHING in those countries. They can't be held to anything!!!!
Legal aspects mean nothing anymore
Yeah, I saw the Phillipines too. I can't believe the health care profession would be that careless with such an important subject. All the about the bottom dollar huh?
In my opinion, not anymore. Been in this 25 years.
It is all going to voice recognition, meaning that the only real transcribing there will be left to do are the horrible dictators (ESLs and NON-ESLs) who cannot be processed by speech recognition.

Between that and overseas workers, not much in the way of a future in my opinion. Glad I'm nearing the end of my career in it.


Med. Transciption not too good anymore? What next?
Hi,
I've been interested in going through Mtec and becoming employed as a Med. Transcriptionist. Howevever, looking at this board, it seems like things are doing too good for transcriptionists. If the future of Medical transciprion isn't doing too well, then what other sort of occupation should I consider that is similar?
oops!...can't take on anymore students/trainees ...nm
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Not a hard and fast rule anymore. Strictly up to QA and
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MT is not worth it anymore. Would not worry about past. Did need to give ID to be hired though.
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Most places only do the overflow or unwanted work from a facility, anymore. Once those
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A nurse does not have the proper training to be an MT, anymore than an MT could suddenly decide to b
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The AAMT.
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and since WHEN is AAMT the BE ALL of anything?

AAMT BOS

If someone tells you to use the AAMT BOS for a test do they mean just as far as grammar and spelling, etc., or do they mean there is a certain template and setup for the test?


AAMT BOS
Are you following the AAMT Book of Style?  I failed the first time I took it also and it was because I did not use this book.  I purchased the book and passed! 
AAMT BOS
I just did my externship at a site that would not let me use the AAMT BOS third edition. They explained that it has to be reviewed by their review board. They explained that those books are made to make them money. They do, however, standby the AAMT BOS second edition.

I was so excited to have the newest version, too! Oh well, I know there will be a day down the road where I'll be thankful in having it!


M-TEC is AAMT approved

M-TEC would get my vote, because they are the only school that has been approved by the American Association for Medical Transcription.


Have you contacted the AAMT yet? sm
Have you contacted the AAMT yet? They have a message board on their website, and I believe they have a totally volunteer mentoring program.

A lot of new MTs who ask for mentors in public forums run into people who want to be paid, or who want you to work for free, or goodness only knows what.

It is not necessary or desirable to pay a mentor.

If you go through the AAMT program, or at least ask on their boards, you'll be more likely to find an experienced, reputable MT who can mentor you without charge or obligation.

Good luck to you!

Redpen
Andrews School
Can you get a CMT from school or just through AAMT?
I had a gal tell me that other day she was going to finish school to get her certification.  She plans to use the CMT title when applying for jobs.  I always thought you had to take the exam through AAMT.  She is just going to a community college taking a med. transcription course.  Am I wrong or is she?
AAMT-approved
My school was AAMT-approved. But so far even the local companies in my area won't hire without experience. I live right outside of Nashville and have several companies including eTransPlus, Transhealth, and Spheris close by. Medquist recently moved. TransHealth was at least nice enough to reply back to my application. The others haven't done anything. Thanks for your responses.
Yea right... Just like the AAMT tried to pretend
they weren't involved in offshoring until they had no choice.....
When in doubt go my AAMT BOS, etc.

dangerous abbreviations.   They are looking more at if you can spell, have good grammar, and know the terminology.   Most companies use AAMT BOS, but there are always exceptions, so style really isn't an issue, unless instructed otherwise.


I've never had to do a retest so I'm not sure if companies change their tests periodically.   I have found that testing can vary greatly, from something an 8th grader could do, to something that I with 20 years of experience thought was difficult (though they tend to have varying levels of testing depending on experience). 


If you are wondering if you didn't test well the first time would it be beneficial for you to bone up on items you may have missed in hopes of getting them right a second time, I don't feel that is beneficial to you.   You might be able to pass the test, but you don't really know the information, and that will be evident in a short period of time.


 


CS is AAMT Approved
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AAMT BOS 2 and 3 difference?
I have the AAMT BOS second edition.  Of course, now there is a third.  I am starting to notice a few things different (such as numbers).  I want to know if I really need to buy the newest book or if there is a place I can download anything that might differ between the second edition and the third?  Thank you for any suggestions.
Just wondering why you are bothering with AAMT
They have no power to force a school to change its policies. They're just there to soak hardworking American MTs for huge membership fees so they can turn around and spend that money to support sending all our jobs to India and the Philippines.

In any event, M-Tec does have a tiered program for people with medical background. You might have better luck contacting the schools directly.
There are only two approved/certified by the AAMT.
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and there are 2 AAMT rejected for approval and won't
how is a potential student supposed to know to stay away from the 2 not approved?

AAMT has some gall.
Because no one cares about the AAMT. Except India.
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CS Has to have instructors or AAMT could not approve them
It's part of the approval process. It's a requirement. They have to have instructors who are qualified.
AAMT is not the BE ALL of the MT industry. Frankly, I think they're a

joke.  I also wouldn't recommend anyone to one particular "approved" school.  The best schools are Andrews, MTec, Career Step, and SETT.  Don't get hooked up with any school that you see on TV or read an ad in the paper that promises you can earn piles of money straight out of school. 


That's cheaper than AAMT. Is a 3-part test, too?
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You've been listenng to AAMT and that will depress anyone!
The truth is, we've always had changes and we always will. Becoming hysterical about it runs off all prospective MTs so that eventually employers will have to go overseas because all of the American MTs will have been scared off by messages such as yours.

Keep learning. Stay flexible. Be ready to make changes when it's appropriate to make them, not every time someone yells that we're doomed!
AHDI (AAMT) approved list
http://www.ahdionline.org/scriptcontent/mtapproved.cfm
I doubt its "the CMT exam" which AAMT has some organization
the test you are referring to is probabky your final exam there at the school and you will receive a "certificate" for MT, not the same thing. Also it cost $300 or so and you must have a minimum of 2 years experience working as a MT before you are even allowed to take the test. Go to the AAMT web site and look up the test certification requirements.
I'm guessing they mean the 3 schools listed on the AAMT site...
...as being AAMT-approved: M-TEC, Andrews and CareerStep. Please correct me if I'm wrong, you actual MTs... (I'm just another newbie thinking of entering training!) :)
Definitely check Word board(s) daily to see what you don't know. And you need your AAMT BOS II
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You say CS, is this Career Step? Is this one of the AAMT approved schools? sm
I know there are several, but can't remember their names. If so, you probably don't need to worry about a local college. The AAMT approved schools (I am not an AAMT supporter) will at least get you a good chance at a job, if you do well.

Don't worry about the grumblers. Complaining is human nature, I do it myself. If you get good training, work hard and are a flexible, fast learner, you can make a good living. Those of us from the old school miss the "gravy days," but they'll never come back. It's still a good profession, especially if you approach it as one, not a sideline. Good luck.
It is true. Those have tested and meet AAMT's minimum requirements
The Approval Process does mean something to me. It means that those schools have been tested and at least meet the minimum requirements, according to AAMT's standards. It doesn't say if they have gone over and beyond those minimum standards, but people in the industry know that already.
Accredited basically means they offer financial aid. Did you mean AAMT-Approved?
If it's an AAMT-approved school, you won't have a problem. Schools that provide financial aid are required to be accredited. That means their financial records are reviewed to make sure the government's money is being handled right. They aren't evaluating the value of the course or qualifications of the course to teach medical transcription.
Forget "approved" schools. AAMT set the criteria, then approved schools that didn't meet i
Stick with Andrews or M-Tec (both of which happen to be "approved") but forget about any others, they are not worth it.
Can't forget the AAMT Book of Style II! Gotta have it for style/formatting, etc. nm
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