what is the .065 cents per gross line equivalent to in 65 character lines?
Posted By: ann on 2005-12-27
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Would it be about 8 cpl 65 characters or higher?
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$.06 gross line / .70 = approximately $.0857 cents per 65 character line.
A gross line is anything on a line versus 65 gross characters per net line the other way. You make more money working for the gross line than for the 65 gross character line, as long as the line rate's OK.
65 character line versus gross lines versus pay by word
I am checking into other options for transcription. Can anyone tell me how to compare all of these types of lines & also payment per word? I know companies use different scales, so I wondered how they compare. I have been paid on a 65 character line with spaces, but I may be making a change in the future - don't want to get burned.
Thank you in advance!
Aaahhhh, now I get it. Gross lines vs. Character lines. I guess I've just been conditioned to
think in terms of character lines. One of the perils of working as an IC for somebody who defines what a line is versus owning your own company and defining it yourself. After working for someone else for 15 years, maybe it's time to bust out on my own.
Are your lines 65-character, gross, or
other? Just curious as I do clinic work and in my area the going rate for gross lines is about 12 cpl, but more like 15-17 cpl for 65-character lines. I have heard (don't really know how reliable it is) that hospitals are charged up to the 22 cpl range. (I assumed that was on 65-character lines.)
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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Curious, do most IC's usually charge by the gross line or 65 character line?
Thank you~
65 gross character line
Could someone please explain to me how this works. I have been an MT for 7 years with the same company and have been paid by # of total bytes divided by 72 x 11 cents per line. I am now moving on to a new job which pays by the 65 gross character line and I'm not sure how to figure this out. Would appreciate any help. Thanks so much.
8 cents per line 65 character
At 8 cents a line, to me, that should be just straight typing. No looking up - leaving a blank, and no struggling more than 1 time to make out what some doctor is mumbling. I am sorry, please don't tell me I have a bad attitude, but each and everyone of us is worth more than 8 cents a line. When we were paid (in the past) at a higher rate, it made up for the researching or trying to figure out what the doctor is saying. I had been out of this work for quite some time. Worked in a hospital for 22.00 an hour for years, worked part time for a service for about 9 cents a line - maybe 3 days a week for 4 hours a day. I did not pay attention that closely then as I had the hospital job. But now, working 8 hours (or more.) This is complete and total B.S. This p_____s me off so bad. But I have to do it in this economy, I am not in a position to do anything else. Everytime I try to really pick up my speed - as there was a time I could about 200 lines or more an hour. (I cannot do it anymore straight through 8 hours.) The QA people find something (a comma or whatever) and then I get nervious and slow way down. I know they have a job to do, but come on. There are some, but very few, doctors who care where a comma goes. Give me a break. It just infuriating for everyone that does this. I had a few doctors on my own accounts years back, but they would not pay on time, regularly, etc. Anyway I just had to vent.    
8 cents per line 65 character
At 8 cents a line, to me, that should be just straight typing. No looking up - leaving a blank, and no struggling more than 1 time to make out what some doctor is mumbling. I am sorry, please don't tell me I have a bad attitude, but each and everyone of us is worth more than 8 cents a line. When we were paid (in the past) at a higher rate, it made up for the researching or trying to figure out what the doctor is saying. I had been out of this work for quite some time. Worked in a hospital for 22.00 an hour for years, worked part time for a service for about 9 cents a line - maybe 3 days a week for 4 hours a day. I did not pay attention that closely then as I had the hospital job. But now, working 8 hours (or more.) This is complete and total B.S. This p_____s me off so bad. But I have to do it in this economy, I am not in a position to do anything else. Everytime I try to really pick up my speed - as there was a time I could about 200 lines or more an hour. (I cannot do it anymore straight through 8 hours.) The QA people find something (a comma or whatever) and then I get nervious and slow way down. I know they have a job to do, but come on. There are some, but very few, doctors who care where a comma goes. Give me a break. It just infuriating for everyone that does this. I had a few doctors on my own accounts years back, but they would not pay on time, regularly, etc. Anyway I just had to vent.
Gross line versus character line....Sm please
I am thinking of taking a job that pays by the gross line and not a 65-character line. I have never worked this way. Does this literally mean if there is one little word on a line you get paid for it? I have not pinned her down on a line rate but I am just thinking I am going to be comparing apples to oranges and am wondering how to accomplish that.
Thanks for any help!
A gross line IS a gross line regardless if it's 90 characters long or 1 character long... SM
I'm very sorry that your lines are 90 characters line and you get paid by gross lines. You are cheating yourself - that's not my fault. You cannot change the definition of a gross line. So I gues I'm not understanding what you are trying to say. Now if you are trying to say that your line equals 90 characters and that's how you figure your lines, than you are not using gross lines. You have defined a line to be 90 characters, whereas most MTSOs define a line as 65 characters. If that is the case, then I must say again, you are cheating yourself.
So which is it, do you get paid by gross lines or by a 90 character line?
You get paid 7.5 cents per 65 character line
I got this calculation by taking 10,000 for the character count including spaces and divided that by 5 and got 2000 (your word count). Then divided that by 1000 (you said you get paid per 1000 words), and got 2. I took 2 and times it by $5.75 and got $11.50. So for every 10,000 characters with spaces you get paid $11.50. To translate this to a 65 character line, I took 10,000 and divided it by 65, and that rounds to 154, divided by $11.50 and got 7.5 cents. This is decent, but I think you should ask for a raise if you have been with them for five years. Anywhere from 8 cpl to 10 cpl is the norm.
Need opinions. Is 8.5 cents a 65-character line.. sm
with spaces considered a fair rate for experienced MT? The work is for outpatient surgery centers and employee status. Miminal benefits are offered. I realize pay scale is often lower for non-acute care work but just not sure if that is a decent rate or not. Thanks for any input!
I was referring to gross 65 character per line with spaces, sm
but again, it was very grueling, but possible. Granted, I had no life besides the keyboard.
Line rates gross versus 65-character
I recently had a call for family practice dictation and I offered 12 cents per line. Have always charged by the gross line and was charging 14 cents, which I thought was too high, so lowered it to 12 cents. However, the more I am reading I see that 65 character seems to be the way everything is getting billed. I also realize at 12 cents per line I lose a lot going to 65 character lines.
I also realize with family practice that they might have a lot of times where there is one or two words on a line and probably wouldn't be too happy about paying for gross lines.
I guess I'm looking for advice on charging. Is charging for gross lines unheard of anymore? I have already quoted the 12 cents, so that will have to be my charge. But as far as gross or 65 character, I haven't been asked that yet but would need to have that absolutely straight with them before starting. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I know I'm a little behind the times and am trying to catch up and stay competitive also.
Thanks!
65-gross line vs.65-gross character line
Can someone explain the difference between these two? I am assuming that the gross line is better than the gross character line. How much better is being paid by the gross character line than just by the standard 65-character line? Does anyone know how much difference it would make in dollars and cents?
Thanks.
There is no such thing as a gross 65 character line! OMG! No wonder MTs are making peanuts SM
Some MTs can't even define a line.
A gross line is a any line with typewritten characters on it no matter how long or how short.
A 65 character line is just that - a line with 65 characters on it.
WOW!
I agree with Tinks....no such thing as a 65 character GROSS line....unless
you just so happen to type 65 characters during on that particular line. LOL
A gross line can be a full typed line or it can be one word on a line to complete a sentence that began on the prevous line. But it gets counted as an entire line.
Question versus gross lines versus 65-character lines....
I have always charged or been paid by 65 or 60 character lines or per letter or space typed, but have never been paid or charged per gross line.
What is the advantage of this? If I were to charge 11 cents per 65-character line including spaces, what does this figure out to for an average line rate and how do you do this calculation?
I'm wondering if it is financially beneficial for me to bill by gross line or to keep it the way I have it. I do know some accounts will only pay per 65-character line, as this was the deal my first own account I recently acquired. They were adamant on a 65-character line, but didn't specify with or without spaces and I personally would never not charge for spaces.
Thanks for explaining this. I appreciate it and hope everyone has a speedy day.
But that's a GROSS line, not a 65 character line.
So a newbie would have no problem at all hitting 150 lines per hour. A gross line is any line with a printed character on it.
Which is better? Gross line or 65 character line? It's
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gross line and character line
I am an IC currently doing one doctor who pays me by the hour but I will be starting another doctor soon and he will be dictating differently so I was going to charge him per line. What is the difference of charging gross lines or per 65 character line?
How much is 6 cents per gross line? nm
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OMG 12 cents gross line.. do they need help?
that would absolutely smoke a 65-character line count by probably 30% depending on what you were typing ... oooh numbering meds, PMH and PSH.
Sweet. Where do I sign up?
14 cents gross line, no less! nm
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Gross line, also including blank lines because my line rate is so low. It all works out in the wash.
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Being paid 11 cents on GROSS line is what helps here, plus
Work my buns off for 50 hours a week! Get a grip, people. It IS possible with the right pay, overall good accounts, and working hard.
make $20 an hour plus 4 cents gross line
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Gross line is actual lines. sm
9 cpl if count is by 65 chars is not too much, IMO, for an experienced MT. If counting by gross lines, 7.5 c on a gross line equals about 9 cpl on a 65-char line, so if they use gross lines, it might sound low per line but it equals out in the end. A gross line is any line on the page. In other words, you can use your finger and count each line on the page that has words on it, and that's your line count. Most don't count blank lines. However, a lot depends on what they are including in that line, regardless. Are spaces included if 65-char line? Does the line count software count formatting changes (such as bold, underline, etc) If so, that will increase total line count. If not, it will decrease it. Gross line is usually a better deal unless the company is using a size 9 font or something or decrease the side margins. 11-12 size font with 1" margins is good with gross lines. The only thing that affects gross lines is the side margins or the font size. With 65-char line, font and margins don't affect it, which is why most go with that now. You take total characters (incl spaces if they pay for them, as someone else said) and divide by 65 to get total lines. Another thing to ask, if they use templates or normals, are the lines in those included? If not, that decreases total line count, too.
It's really hard for someone to say "this is the rate you should ask for" though, because there can be so much variability from company to company as far as what they count as a line. Also, is it clinic or acute care work? If clinic, generally easier and same docs all the time, so even at a lower line rate, you might make more in the end if you use expander, normals, templates, etc. Is there a platform or can you use Word and your own expander? If acute care where you have different docs all the time, a lot of ESLs, clunky platform, no Expander program, etc., it might slow you down so even with a higher line rate, you might not make as much in the long run. Therefore, you have to take all of that into consideration to arrive at what line rate you should charge or ask for ... almost have to adjust to each different company or client, really. For clinic work, 8-9 cents per 65-char line can net some good pay. For acute care, you might want more like 10-11 to get the same pay. Hope this all makes sense!
Chars aren't counted in gross lines. If you have a 4-line paragraph...sm
you have 4 gross lines, no matter how long or short the sentences are. A heading on it's own line is 1 gross line. A signature on it's own line is 1 gross line. The date at the top of a document on it's own line is 1 gross line. Anything on a line going from margin to margin is 1 gross line, no matter how few or many characters, or if there are spaces or not, even if there's only 1 character on that line like 'A' for instance. Does this help? :)
Two companies, both 65 char lines including spaces, one pays 0.10/l and the other 8.5/gross line. n
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Paid hourly, req'd 1000 lines, anything over 1101 was 0.04 cents a line
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Quick question! Is 10 cpl with benefits at 74 character line better than 9 cpl at 65 character line?
Thanks
Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
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What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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A gross line is anything on a line is a line. A line set at 65 characters means it sm
has 1-inch margins on each side. The maximum number of characters on that line would be 65 and that includes spaces. If there is 1 character on that line it is a line.
A standard 65-character line usually consists of 65 characters with spaces unless, of course, the employer does not pay for spaces and then it would be 65-characters without spaces.
20-character lines.
it's the only explanation.
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These are 65-character lines,
Now there's an idea. The 30-character line.
Gross lines include all lines containing
printable characters, so a full line and a line with one word on it are charged equally. Straight lines are basically the same as gross lines, but with this method of counting the blank lines are counted as well (again, equally). I have only had one company pay this way, and they are a middle man. I would think the charge would be about the same as for gross lines, and that not too many offices will want their lines counted this way (the one I worked on was probably inherited from someone who had counted the lines that way, so just continued).
My hospital uses 90 character lines.
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1,100 65-character lines in four hours.
I was doing 1,100 65-char lines in four hours. Unemployed now and big nationals don't pay enough. Why do all the great accounts go to VR or newbies and I get stuck with ESL garbage?
Gross line means anything on a line is counted as a line.
You can get an idea in the difference using documents you have already created, assuming you're working in Word. Simply open a document and check the properties. Click on the statistics tab and you will see the number of lines as well as characters with and without spaces. If you're currently getting paid by the line and a line is 65-characters with spaces, do the math and see how that number of lines compares with the number of lines in your stats.
One thing to keep in mind: if you have a blank line between paragraphs, instead of hitting the enter key twice, format your document to give the appearance of blank lines between paragraphs.
A gross line is any line with typewritten characters on it - no matter how long or SM
how short. So your gross lines may be longer than 65 characters, but you get credit even for a line as short as "Sincerely,". If your gross lines are not being counted that way, then you are not being counted on gross lines and are probably getting screwed. I'd look into that if I were you.
Fresh out of school 13 years ago I made 8 cents gross/clinic/no ESL
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Thirteen years ago made 9 cents gross/clinic straight out of school
No, it is 65 character lines including spaces. The only canned text is my own.
I get mostly the same dictators on the same account every day. I do have carpal tunnel starting, so, gotta get it while I can.
IC, by line, 68-72 character spaces/line
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New England, 16.50/hr, 8 cents a line after minimum line count..
full benefits available with general contribution by the hospital before you start paying for them, retirement, 403b, all benefits, and working at home as an employee, BUT, you have to live local to the hospital.
What's the diff between a gross line and a 65-char line?
Mebbe just got my first OWN ACCOUNT YAY! He said to charge him the "going rate" since I pay him that. This could be the start, baby! (I hope)
A gross line is any amount of characters on a line
for instance...
MEDICATIONS:
Effexor
Prevasid
A 65 character line without spaces is black marks on the page only and 65 w/spaces is everything... tabs, spaces, numbers, letters, bold, etc.
gross-anything on line counts as line,even one word
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