well, I guess we all disagree at one time or another--sm
Posted By: ks on 2006-12-29
In Reply to: Edit - sorry. Every single employer wanted me to have my own copy of the BOS2.Need coffee. - Laurie
but I did not say hate the BOS, I said hate the AAMT that produces it. Very few people have any respect for that organization any longer, but continue to buy the book from them, which is still feeding the monster, as I put it. anyway, that is just my opinion. NONE of my employers, or any one that I have ever tested with, used the BOS. I know what the book is. I have seen it and still think that it is just guidelines and nothing is set in stone. MOST doctors have their own preferences anyway, which have nothing to do with this book. I have many many reference books, so it is not that I don't believe in booked reference material. I have spent a good amount of money on them and have no qualms about continuing to do so. they are all invaluable, simply as reference material. I simply object to the AAMT, which has *shot the american MT in the foot*. but that is still just my opinion. enjoy your coffee.
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I disagree...just because you are in a certain profession doesnt mean you cant have time off..sm
My mom has been an RN for over 40 years now and I have several family members in some of the other professions you mentioned above. A certain profession does not mean you have to work certain days/holidays. If you have vacation time you are entitled to use it whenever you wish. I used to work in a physicians office for 10 years and I always put my vacation time in for my two weeks in December in January. Other employees put their time in for summer. So while they are out having fun with their time off in July I am not crying and moaning because they are having fun in the sun while I work to cover them. It is the same thing no matter when your time off is scheduled. It has nothing to do with what field you work in. If you want time off at Christmas be a little more organized and schedule your time off way in advance. And no I dont think I am the only one with a family who would like to be off for the holidays. I just make it a priority to take my vacation at that time. You enjoy your time when you want and I will enjoy my time when I want.
I disagree, first off, I have a heck of a hard time hiring qualified US MTs
client ready work. Then, when I do hire MTs I constantly run into the problem of how they only want to work part time or can only work 2 hrs on this day, an hour here, or an hour there, or the next problem is consistency. Out of the blue, oops, can't work today, or I lost connection to the Internet yet they're too stupid to go offline instant messenger. One MT owes me money because I was nice enough to help her out (yeah I know my fault) and she screwed me over. Such drama. It's a CONSTANT battle to find good US MTs.
Agree and disagree -- there is a time and place for discretion -- but it should be with the approval
I used to do shift assignments many years ago ... first off, there are times when you have a newbie (or not so newbie) who will literally take hours to do a few OP reports, when what you need is TURNOVER, VOLUME, SPEED .. in those cases, it may make sense for the overall picture to assign someone new (or ailing) some "easy" work to clear out a worktype ... Ditto, I don't have any problem with requesting (and having request granted) to do certain report types or this-not-that when there is a request for extra hours. If you've already put in your shifts doing luck-of-the-draw, spending extra hours doing the dregs feels like punishment ... and if you're doing an unfamiliar worktype on overtime or extra, your reports will likely be a burden to QA ... net gain lessened.
There are all kinds of cherrypicking possible depending on the configuration of your job -- switching worktypes, switching accounts, taking a "break" are all ways to pass the exhausting and frustrating on to somebody else ... Oh, and no, I make myself NOT do that ... easy though it appears to be for most people to get away with it.
I once had a coworker (whom I liked) who explained that she HAD to cherrypick because otherwise she couldn't reach her line count within her 8 hour workday ...
Peeps?? Well, I guess it is almost time for
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I guess it is time to make a stand...
I just received my first subscription via E-mail to Advance Health Magazine.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO ADVERTISEMENTS IN IT FOR HIRING INDIA MTs?
These are about 1/4 of a page size. One is from CBAY, which is Spheris, which is their 100% India company. Bragging a 30% decrease in costs to hospitals.
This not only threatens American MTs with losing jobs outright, but it also UNDERCUTS us. This is why we are making less money, less benefits, and needing to work harder.
I sent an E and cancelled immediately. Actually, I had been considering it for a while because of a bit percentage of their Medical Transcription articles are pro- undercutting American MTs, anyway, just like AAMT.
In my opinion, WE ARE BEING SOLD-OUT, AND BEING SOLD-OUT BY AAMT as they push harder and harder to make money any way they can, even by supporting Indian MTs, who are probably being told they "have" to join their organization...
They have been trying to force American MTs to become certified to fill their pockets and position themselves for the future as a monopoly. However, it seems American MTs are not as easily led as in India, so they flip-flopped. If you can't beat them, join them, right?
I am so disgusted. Last month they had an article from someone encouraging companies to hire American MTs and I was so hopeful, but this made me sick, to get it in my E-mail.
Time for me to make a stand. My job is worth fighting for and I need it...
I guess if there is a 10th it's time to replace my 8th!
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Busy..yes that I am LOL. I would love some MEEE time, but I guess I will have to
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Guess what? When he's at work all day at HIS job, he's not spending time with the family
Grrrrr.
I guess I don't understand the purpose of a time stamp
being put throughout a document? Can someone explain why this would be needed?
Guess they'll be in with food poisoning next time
since they ate that gangrene...bwahahahahaha
mine sucks snot all the time...allergies I guess.
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Thanks for all the feedback...time to kick it into high gear, I guess..nm
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Thanks ... guess I'll have to check it out some time ... like I need to find more ways to goof of
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If it's different for each report, my guess (only a guess)
would be no. I think the macro would work if it was the same each time, but not sure if it will if the documents are different each time.
I disagree
Edix/Spheris pays a bonus based on production and QA. The MQ office I worked for didn't give a rats bottom about QA, it was LINES LINES LINES and they paid production bonuses. My company expects the lines with NO bonus, NO shift differential, NO weekend differential, and NO OT. What you download you are expected to do, doesn't matter if it's 200 reports, you better have them done.
I have to disagree with you.
I think that people actually like it. That is the thing. I care a lot if the people are fat and ugly. It is such a weird concept to me. Being extremely thin and beautiful, I can't stand that. I mean, what is the harm in getting plastic surgery or gastric bypass? It will be a very hard thing for me to do.
I would have to disagree with you...
I have lived in California for most of my life and now for the last 6 years have lived in New England. Yes, it's expensive but not nearly as expensive as California, especially Southern California. For instance, a small tract house with 1200 square feet and no yard whatsoever, lined up like sardines in a can, will run you about 450,000. We have a 4 bdrm 3ba, in ground pool,1.4 acres, 2,300 sq ft house worth 300,000. The reason most of theNortheast is so expensive is the high tax burden, with the exception of New Hampshire,which has the lowest tax burden of all 50 states. One thing that is horribly expensive is college tuition, even community college is ridiculous compared to California.
I disagree with you. SM
As the other poster said -- if they're all that concerned, they need to (a) watch who they hire (b) provide the equipment.
No way on this earth I'd grant that kind of access to my computer. They'll have to find another way to calm their fears.
I disagree... (sm)
I believe Silent Type is a totally family based, oriented firm and found them most pleasant to work for before starting my own business.
I disagree
I have been an MT for a fair few years. One of the reasons I chose this career was because of the "bright" outlook. I believed that there really was a shortage of MTs in this country and jobs aplenty. Plenty of MTSOs are hiring, but trying to get my own account has been like pulling teeth. I have had to move out of my city, then out of my state, and now am calling surrounding states looking for work. I have excellent qualifications and reasonable rates, and I can tell you, nobody is interested.
I disagree (sm)
My husband loves it when I tell him I pretend that he's naked.
I mean, wow, lighten up. I doubt ilovejackbauer is some kind of pedophile so I'm sure it was just a harmless suggestion. This world has gotten way too sensitive.
I have to disagree with
I worked set hours at home with an infant that I was nursing...yes I did! When he needed a change or to be nursed, I took the few minutes, changed him, latched him on, and continued working. It's hard, but not downright impossible. We are women, we can do anything we set our minds to. Good luck to the OP!!!
Disagree - that's all!
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I have to disagree
My live-in BF's exwife used to do the online game instead and he hated it. No time with him or daughter. He is now pretty much doing the same thing to me with his model airplanes and helicopters. When he works on them and deals with them he does it and nothing else. He is very single minded. If not flying it is working on them, surfing the net for them, talking about them, etc. I have just about had it as well. He says that at least he does not go out to bars and drink. Well if you are not spending time with me and kids and not helping me do things around the house so that I am tired and stressed it is all the same to me. I have been there on both and just because they are not cheating, drinking, drugging, etc does not mean it is okay. If you need attention and help you need it no matter what their reasoning is or hobby is in this case. You have to balance your time. I say what if all I did was play my games or shop or go to the bookstore and had no time for anyone or house work. I have to balance it so that we all function relatively well. It should be equal play time for both of you and equal other stuff too.
I disagree
It involved her when her husband decided to share the info with her. AND they involved him when they brought him into their little THANG. Don't for a minute think it is innocent, or else she would have called his wife to ask where he was at. I think if the OPs husband doesn't set his friend straight about not wanting to be involved in this crap then he is not beyond suspicion. JMO.
And, do you want some unwritten code making a fool out of YOU if your man should decide to start doing the same and his friends (your friends also) know about it!?!?!?!?!?! Come on.
Sorry disagree
Your creditors have the RIGHT to not work with a credit counseling agency. I tried this route also before Chapter 13 and several chose not to work with them. Most of the major ones do but some do not. This is a profitable business that is paying your bills for you working out a credit plan for you and if you miss ONE payment they have the right to drop you and many will. They also monitor the usage or your credit card use, etc. Again, there are always two sides to everything but some of my creditors did chose not to work with the agency. I was told by one of the biggest Credit Counseling Agencies that though most "do work with them, some chose not to and they do not have to as you are the one that agreed to pay back the debt not the credit counseling agency." But they do have to accept a Chapter 13 order. So again, look at all the facts and make your choice. The biggest agency I talked to was the higest for their fees and really did not save me much with my payment but the interest and late fees stopped. Also if they negotiate a plan to reduce the balance due -- beware that if a credit card compay writes off any amount of the debt -- say that they will settle for 50% of the $10,000 that you owe, then they will issue you a 1099C - cancellation of debt - for the $5,000 that you are not paying and you will have to include that as income on your taxes for the year. So there are several pitfalls with some of these agencies, just ask the right questions and do some research. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Patti
I would have to disagree with you
I just took a job that offered me 7.5 cents per line to start. I just finished my online training for MT at the beginning of August. It can happen, although I applied to every company I could find. I did the legwork and now the offers are rolling in.
disagree
depends on the companies ethics, method of counting, etc. I can do mooocho lines on escription platform but suck on any other platform.
I disagree with others, I think 12 is low
Some MTs make that from a service so you can imagine what the service is charging and they are paying it. With picking up, delivering, printing? 12 cpl is selling yourself way short IMO. Not to mention bringing down the rates overall for others. I would not do it for less than 14 cpl. And if they won't pay that, work for a service that will pay you 10 or 11 cpl, without all the headaches.
I disagree with you
You are very opinionated.
I disagree. sm
I've been in both situations - one punitive, and one that rewards MTs extra efforts. Reward is far more motivating than punishment. Punitive management styles just make employees tense, demoralized, and even more apt to make further mistakes. If it goes on long enough, they become resentful and angry. Ultimately they leave. The way to keep good employees, and to turn marginal ones into better ones, is to reward them for a job well done.
I disagree
...if you Google "new hires" every instance that comes up seems to related to new employees. This was also heard spoken by the Human Resources department.
Diane
I would have to disagree.
an IC work a set schedule. Unfortunately with this OP being an employee, she must adhere to the strict work schedule. As an IC, you are not required to work set hours, and if you are being told to do that, then you are an employee and not an IC. Someone on this particular board posted a link to a court action suit brought against a company classifying an employee as an IC, but was in the wrong because that is considered control due to the fact the work was required back in 24 hours. Believe it or not, but I read it myself on this board.
Think about it as a plumber. When the IC plumber comes to your house, gives you an estimate, do you say to him, now I want this work completed at such and such a time (strict schedule)? No, the plumber tells you I'll be there between the hours of 9 and 5, and the work can be completed in such and such amount of time given there is no unforeseen problems, etc.
Now with MT, the usual TAT is 24 hours, but as an IC, you should be able to transcribe that work within that amount of time, but not work a set schedule even if that means typing for 15 minutes, take an hour break, and then type for 15 minutes.
I am soooooo glad the company I work (only one) as I have my own accounts, knows the true meaning of IC. A lot of these MTSO's do not know the true meaning.
Furthermore, the accounts I have on my own do not require 24-hour TAT, so that is also something an MTSO will play on when in all honesty they actually have 48 hours or even 72 hours to complete the work. I'm there, I'm doing it, and I know it to be true! My accounts are happy with 48 hour TAT. I QA my own work, which is also another problem in this field. If there were not so many chiefs making demands, I think the Indians could have more time to do their "hunting" for their bounty! 24-hour TAT should be for STAT requests only.
I'd have to disagree.
I am my own team. I am not part of anyone's team because if I was, then I'd get the benefits "the team" gets. With that said, yes I will charge for faxing and taking the time to do things other than typing. And, NO, in 10 years, the physicians I type for ask no questions as they charge fees for their different services as well, filling out workers' comp forms, etc.
So I encourage transcriptionists to charge as such. If you price your line rate high, they will outsource to a large company that they can pay less, so this may work for you, but not necessarily is the norm. JMO.
I disagree.
For example, Medquist requires 150 lines per hour for full time with benefits, which is a 1200 line 8-hour day, and that includes ASR. There are high producers who are hitting those numbers, but they are the minority, especially now. Your numbers are great and certainly what I aim for, but may be daunting to someone just getting started if they think that is the norm.
I'm getting paid!
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I have to disagree with you a little on this one...sm
I don't think our profession was "dumbed-down" by people who can't (or won't) do ESLs. It has been dumbed down by the big companies who make the rules and know nothing about actual transcription.
If the companies would tell the clients they need to make their doctors dictate clearly, this would be a moot point. The companies need to come down on the clients and the clients need to come down on their doctors. Dictation not clearly dictated is 99.9% of the problem in any of the transcription I have seen or done in my 17+ years of doing this... both MT and QA.
If you can't understand the doctor due to a heavy accent, background noise, poor quality equipment, or whatever, you can't transcribe an accurate report.
I have seen a lot of changes in the technology of our profession over the years and by all rights we should be making tons more money because of the advances that have improved our production... but why is it our wages continue to go down?
Part of the problem is companies not paying higher line rates, cutting out headers, footers, cc's, etc., but I think the biggest problem of all is how sloppy dictation has been allowed to get by all the doctors, but mostly because of all of the ESL doctors we have these days. It used to be that you had one or two on a large account and now I can honestly say that I bet I transcribe probably 80-90% ESLs and many different nationalities.
Yes, we all need to learn how to do some ESLs, but for crying out loud, the companies need to make it a little easier for us to learn them! And just for good measure...since I'm blithering away for nothing anyway...(teehee)... why do WE have to learn them?... why don't they have to LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH?
Sorry if I offended anyone... I'm just tired of not hearing a clear-speaking doctor, whether it be a language barrier, a mushmouth, dictating in a busy hallway full of barking dogs, whatever... I'm just sick of it. It didn't used to be this way. Doctor's used to be polite when they dictated and it showed in their reports.
have to disagree again
I have no help from anyone.. There is no husband in my home to help with my children. I only have on in school, and then still have an 18 month old who is at home full time. I dont believe in allowing others to raise my children, when i am home and perfectly capable of caring for them. Some days, my youngest will sit on the floor by my desk and "work" with me, using an old keyboard i have.
Some days, my children are content to watch TV in the other room, some days they arent. It is a matter of what you as an individual are willing to do in order to make things work, that is all.
And I disagree with you
My two IM's prior to using my company, did use a call in system for several years but after coming to me he told me he would never go back as there was no comparison as to quality, TAT and their satisfaction, I have talked to them several times about digital as I am set up to do digital and do it for overflow to an old MTs that I used to work for, but they prefer the tapes. So be it. If it makes them happy, that is fine for me. They are stand alone doctors, and they do not like the large companies. I know that they have been called, e-mailed, etc. but they chose to stay with me. Like I said, I am not cocky, I appreciate and count my blessing but if they chose to stay with tapes that is fine. They need the chart notes back on sticky paper anyway so I would continue to deliver and the office staff is overworked enough and would not put it onto them to print the notes. I actually like getting out and delivering and talking to them. My surgical oncologists do not even have a computer in the office to do the scheduling, they use an old fashion appointment book and write in their schedules. And I have talked with them about digital but they like it. Only have 5 more years before I retire so we will see what they do. And my price is fair, they pay on time, never a bounced check so we go on as such.
Sorry disagree
#1 - I have a back up computer, transcriber, printer, you just plan for this. You have to be ready for all and everything. I have been down only one day for computer problems in the past 3 years and that was because one acount I send out via internet, Comcast was down for 12 hours. But if I am, I make it up over the next few days, the work is still there to do.
#2 - When I am sick my accounts are very understanding and though it does not happen often it does but no problem. Work is there the next day. And they do not rush me to get it back.
#3 - My docs provide me with free care and samples of prescriptions. Saves a lot on my high deductible. Plus my insurance premiums are paid through my company. Deductible.
#4 - I contrbute off the top to my retirement fund.
#5 - I do depreciate my house as I know I will be in it for two years past retirement.
#6 - Holiday/vacation/sick -- I average those into my cpl and charge that. And I charge a reasonable rate to my clients. They have all been with me for over 10 to 18 years. Suppose they could leave suddenly but then your hospital based job could be gone in a flash also, that is life.
#7 - Again I pay less than 10% to taxes and that is with 15% for social security. And I make good money, I would LOOSE money to work inhouse in a hospital and I have figured it out when offered a job. I would not have the lifestyle that I have now and I am single supporting myself with a house payment, etc.
So to each their own, like I said.
You can disagree...but
you obviously did not read my post. The *first* thing I said was to get medical attention. Regardless of what you may think, I am very fond of depression myself. I was diagnosed with clinical depression (yes, the kind where you don't get out of bed) at 17 and have struggled with it since. I am 26. I have also been diagnosed with OCD. Trust me, I know depression. I have been off an on antidepressants since 17, at which time, they saved my life, literally.
There are other aspects to depression, though. If you are not willing to take the steps to get help and take control of your life...then it will contine to get worse.
The main point I wanted to address in my post was a person needs to take care of themselves...take care of the basics. That is a daily choice, although a very difficult one to achieve with depression, BUT not impossible.
My advice:
1. Get seen by a doctor.
2. Get a job.
3. Make the daily choices necessary get the first two things done.
Disagree, disagree, disagree
LIke I explain to my accounts which I have had for the past 20 years, I allot so much time per day for their account. If they do not give me consistent tapes, then I cannot use that time and carry it over to the next day when they decide to double up on their tapes. I am relying on that dictation for my pay. Just like when a patient does not show up. But again, my accounts were obtained and we went over everything and they are considered "daily accounts." I have had a couple and when they drop down to nothing, I will inquire as I need to know if I need to search out another account to supplement my income. I would just nicely ask when I could expect dictation as I need to make out my monthly schedule, etc. Also if they are not going to use me on a daily basis then I need to reasses my TAT and my price. But to me, you need to find out what is going on unless you are happy with it this way. I do not like the unknown, and need to know what I will be receiving daily so I can plan out my schedule and time. I do not think you were out of line and once I even asked if they wanted their letterhead and envelopes returned as it was apparent that they were using a different service as I had not received anything for a month. So if it was up to me I would find out either through the doctor or through the manager. Maybe someone in the office is sending it to someone else and the doctor thinks you are doing it and so that is why he looked at you funny. Anyway the call is yours, but I would definitely want to know what was going on. Let us know what you do and find out.
Disagree!
I won a gift card from that site and received it, $50. My experience was great!
I would disagree that it's
possible to do that many lines on full edit consistently. If that included quite a few blanks-only or experienced MTs maybe, but 4800 lines of full-edits a day on new MTs? Not gonna happen if you want quality. QAs need to be paid hourly rather than production anyway if your ultimate goal is true Quality Assurance rather than quantity, and 3 cpl like I read somewhere above is laughable.
Yes, of course! That is because I disagree...
And I, along with others here, are sick of listening to the whining. If you think you can make changes in the MT industry, then go for it! This is not the place where those changes will take place. You need to create your own site where you can explain what you believe is happening to the industry and direct people to that site. See what feedback you get. See what changes you can make with NON-MTs, okay.
I disagree also
Have you known anyone that has taken either one of these courses? They're not easy, by any means. And all we are trying to say is that they DO better prepare you for MT and they DO get your foot in the door a HECK of a lot easier than going to a "local" college! If you already have a job lined up and someone to mentor you after you go to the "local" college, then more power to you! But if you don't, you just wasted money there! Good luck trying to find one of these MT companies to hire you w/o experience! You may get a lucky break from a small company, but "may" is the key word here! And most people do not want to wait forever, hoping they will get hired from someone! And no, getting that "piece of paper" does not make you a great MT, but the education that it took to get that paper is far more than any community college will teach you! You say you are a good MT, and no one is saying you aren't. But you were probably hired way back when, when companies didn't require a lot of schooling! That doesn't really fly nowadays. So please, stop trying to discourage newbies here! Let them decide for theirself. By the way, "online" schooling is the way of the future, and many people are getting jobs from their degrees from UOP or wherever else!
I disagree
A semicolon marks a separation when a comma is inadequate and a period is too final - that is what is written in the BOS 2nd edition. A semicolon is used to separate 2 independent clauses, which does not apply here. It is also used to separate items in a series if commas otherwise are used, see BOS for complete explanation, and that also does not apply. A comma would be correct substituting the word "and" in my opinion. If you have the BOS, then look under "semicolon," and you will find the full explanations.
I disagree, too
The way I check to see if one is needed is if the two statements can stand alone as a sentence but are very dependent on one another. The above needs a comma.
I disagree
I worked for a small company for about 3 years. The woman that owned the company pretty much cut and pasted her contracts together from various websites. With all that legal mumbo-jumbo no one ever questioned her and she held it over her MT's heads as far as "sticking to the contract." Don't let these companies intimidate you into thinking you don't have a leg to stand on. It's all B.S. - contracts are broken all the time, especially when you begin to question the company's integrity and business ethics, which is why I was fired.
She could give no reason (work-wise) why she fired me so I'm going through unemployment. Her contract said "MT is responsible for social security, unemployment, etc." but like I said this was cut and pasted from websites. Yes it's time consuming and can be a pain in the ______ BUT when possible we need to do something about these companies.
I could have gotten unemployment but wanted to work instead so right there tells you the contract is questionable. As my friend chef Ramsey would say "shut her down." She should be out of business in about a year, the other girls are slowly finding other work and some are considering taking legal action.
You can get free legal consultation and I suggest you use it. Go to as many lawyers as you can (1st hour free) and gather all your info.
I disagree
This is not an easy business - it doesn't matter whether you're an MT or an editor. There is a lot of pressure to get things right and we all have to deal with some very confusing situations. It's extremely hard to get started in this line of work and getting different information from the people who are supposed to be helping you sure doesn't help matters any.
I think the OP's frustrations are very valid ones. I've been at this for 18 years now and I still get extremely frustrated - not as much as I used too, but it still happens.
We were all new once and there was a time when we all had a tons of questions. Some of us, myself included, were lucky enough to have guidance that made sense and helped us get on the right track - but obviously not everybody is that fortunate.
I think being frustrated shows a willingness to want to get it right - something that's sorely lacking by overseas MTs and computer software. As far as I'm concerned, an MT who doesn't get frustrated is an MT who doesn't really care one way or the other.
This field needs more people like the OP of this thread because it's obvious she wants to do a good job and just wants someone to be consistent in helping her achieve that goal!
Disagree with you
My experience was very similar to the person you responded to - the people that had been there the longest did the least work for the most money. Of the top 3 in longevity - the lead worker spent the majority of her time playing politics, reading her personal email, and refusing to impart any of her superior knowledge in fear someone might dethrone her. Another had tried to cut it at home, and came crying back - she couldn't handle any ESL, and the docs there were very easy. The third was so insecure (after more than 10 years on the job!) she even asked the newbies for advice on the simplest things, and after numerous doctor complaints about her work - made this statement "how could my reports be full of errors when I use spell check"? Ever hear of the Peter Principle - it was in full force there.
I love production - I work hard and get paid way more than I ever could in-house. The only thing I don't like about it is all the freebies they expect - unpaid emails, unpaid downtime, things like that should be factored in if its part of the job, IMHO.
I disagree, yes...
I am not the person you are replying to, but, yes, I disagree. I am wondering what skill level you are speaking of? Does MT require a degree, even a 2-year degree? Sure, we spend years learning on the job, but so do many professions that require a 2-year degree minimum. Yes, we have many skills, but, again, so do many other professions that require at least a degree. I went to MT school for 4 months -- yes, 4 months -- and I was able to land a job that paid decent. Fast forward years later, I made 56k last year as an MT (not with my own accounts). So, tell me one profession you can think of (not owning your own bussiness) where a person can make 56k working from home with 4 months of formal education?
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