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that is a ridiculous comparison!

Posted By: comparing apples with oranges on 2006-01-17
In Reply to: This is changing the subject a bit, but..... - mini-dachsund lover

dogs, birds, cats, etc are all different animals that required different diets and have different needs. You can't even compare 1 dog breed to another b/c every breed has its different needs, so that being the case, how can you possibly compare dogs to birds?? That is just ridiculous.



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Thanks for the comparison..
They sound one in the same.
A little comparison.

Option A: National: Two hours of emails, faxes, unpaid headers, using expander.  Total income $9.60 in two hours.


Option B: Small MTSO: One hour of straight typing with only one researched name and address.  No emails, no faxes, paid headers, no expander.  Total income $20.00 in one hour.  I just wish they had more work!!!!


Comparison
I think there are some variables here. Our company went to VR and there are some who are making more and some less. I am one of those who is making less, but I made a good salary to begin with and am a fast transcriptionist. If you do a lot of editing when you do straight transcription and put in lots of punctuation, and edit A LOT, changes are VR is not going to work for you. I love it, but then again, it all depends on what platform of VR your company uses.
what a perfect comparison
If I had pictured you as anybody that would have been the perfect choice, quirky, funny and cute in the boy next door way.
I posted a comparison...

within the last week here on the Main Board (MTSO ratings) that shows how the clients of some of the top MT companies who offshore rate the quality of both onshore and offshore transcription.  There really was not a big difference, according to those clients, between the quality of both. 


Cents pay comparison for VR editing
Non-VR (IC) at 10 cents/line x 200 lines/hr. = $20 / hr.
VR editing (IC) at 5 cents/line x 400 lines/hr. = $20/hr. (a 0% increase)*

Non-VR MTSO charge at 15 cents/line x 200 lines/hr. = $ 30/hr.
VR MTSO charge at 15 cents/line x 400 lines/hr. = $ 60/hr. (a whopping 100% increase)

If you deduct the $20 to the MT from $30, MTSO still makes $10 per hour per MT.
If you deduct the $20 to the MT from $60, MTSO now makes $40 per hour per MT.





(of course these figures do not include MTSO overhead and other costs)

*Note: VR editing requires MTs with extensive experience for detecting and correcting errors.
Looking for conversion/comparison chart sm

I'm getting paid gross lines right now and my company is going to be using new software which will use 65-char lines.  I'm looking for some sort of chart that shows the difference in $. 


Any help will be gratly appreciated. 


Thanks


office lighting comparison
Everyone's talking about the compact fluorescent lighting saving hundreds of per year in energy costs.  That's swell, but I have tried using these bulbs in my office, and the lighting is not at all adequate.  In my experience, the CFLs do not come close to light output of incandescent (standard) bulbs.  I'd have to buy extra lamps with CFLs to equal the amount of light I need and can get through standard bulbs.  I have my office lights on for 10+ hours a day.  I turn them off when I take a break, of course, and at the end of the day.  However, my power bill is through the roof already, as Ameren has dumped another rate increase on Illinois.    So:  Need the best lighting option for the lowest price possible.  Any ideas?
Wow, I did a line count comparison...sm
what one of my accounts paid me for and what my other account would have paid me for with their counter and only came up with a 15% difference.  A 50% difference is pretty hard to stomach.  I have no ideas except for some really crooked software.
Great comparison! Just like dogs, we have to train our men!!
It might take years, but it does pay off in the end!  Been training mine for 30+ years now, and he's about halfway there! But I would sure boot his butt out if he cheated - and he knows it!
I work for both ... my comparison (LONG READ):
HOURS/CLASSIFICATION:
MQ: You have a choice of FT with full benefits -- 39-40 hours producing average of 150 lines/hour minimum; FT with limited benefits -- 39-40 hours with less than 150 lines/hour average but more than 100 lines/hour; PT with limited benefits for 8-16-24 hour schedules all averaging 100 lines/hour.

Spheris: FT is 37 to 40 hours a week, with 10,200 lines required by payperiod's end. PT is 20 to 36 hours a week, production is 5100 lines/payperiod minimum.

OVERTIME:
Both companies structure overtime the same way; averaged in the same manner; requires approval, must be in addition to 40 hours WORKED (PTO, DT do not count).

SCHEDULES:
Both require a schedule with the offer of "flexibility".

TIME:
MQ: Time sheets are used; MTs fill them in manually and submit.

SPHERIS: Galaxy is used -- you clock in and the system punches your time for you. Day's end, you see how much you've worked and allocate your time accordingly (productive time, PTO, meeting with mgrs, etc.).

BENEFITS:
MQ: You see the benefits in the Harmonization booklet. The employee's cost of insurance benefits is assigned by the state you live in (as well as which/if coverages are available to you).

SPHERIS: Med/Den/Vision are offered. Employees all pay the same amount for amount of coverages (EX: All employees wanting EMPLOYEE ONLY coverage pay the same; all wanting EMPLOYEE+ONE CHILD pay the same). It is available to all employees. Cost is not region-specific.

EQUIPMENT:
MQ: Use your own or they will provide. The current rental charges will no longer be effective in January; as well, the internet reimbursements will not either. I don't know if there will be a deposit for those just coming into the company after Jan 1.

SPHERIS: Must use their computers. No rental fee but there is a refundable deposit. You can pay it at once or have it taken out in 6 paychecks. Refunds to you when equipment is returned in good working order.

PTO:
MQ: You see the new PTO offered in the plan and can read online the PTO calculation formula.

SPHERIS: Same type of calculation formula; averaged quarterly and you receive a notice of what your new downtime/PTO rate is and what period it covers. Limit is $20 an hour tops for PTO. Lowest is $7.50. Amount of PTO depends on status and length of service and ranges for FT from 11 days to 21 days a year and PT 2.5 to 7.5 days a year.

HOLIDAYS:
MQ: You can read in the Harmonization booklet.

SPHERIS: Thanksgiving and Christmas are designated holidays. If you are scheduled to work on it, you can take PTO instead. If you work it you will earn double lines those days.

QUALITY:
Both require 98%.

PAY CYCLES:
MQ: Pay WEEK is Su-Sat; pay PERIOD is bimonthly 1-15th and 16th-end of month with paydates on 10th and 25th. Direct deposit available.

SPHERIS: Pay weeks are same as pay periods and are Su-Sat with every other Fridya as paydates. Direct deposit available.

BASE RATE:
MQ: With the new plan, you have your current base rate and it is the same on all work (unless you do part radiology or ASR).

SPHERIS: Your base rate depends on the level of the account you type on. If you type on a really easy account, you will get less pay; more difficult accounts, more pay. Each account level has a new-hire hourly associated with it. Levels go from level 3 to 10 with line rates 0.065 to 0.102. With Spheris, if your production earnings do not add up to at least minimum wage for the hours you worked, they will pay you minimum wage. However, you will not stay with them long if you cannot produce enough to keep you off the minimum wage payments.

INCENTIVE:
MQ: We know that incentive is achieved on a daily basis -- after you produce 1200 lines. Tiered so that you earn incentive ONLY on the lines produced AFTER 1200. It barely puts change in your pocket for mid-range producers. Only rewards high producers.

SPHERIS: Incentive is base on each week's production (Sun-Sat). So you can have a really bad week and only get your base and then next week have a great week and get incentive. Once earned, incentive applies to ALL lines typed and ranges depending on FT or PT status. FT: 5200 lines start at 0.002 and increases up to 7000+ lines getting 0.015 cpl incentive. PT: 2700 lines = 0.001 and increases up to 7000+ lines = 0.015 cpl. Whatever incentive you earn that week is applied to ALL LINES PRODUCED THAT WEEK. Spheris also has special teams that pay higher base rates.

SHIFT DIFF:
MQ: 11pm-7am = 0.01 and 3pm-11pm = 0.005

SPHERIS: 4pm-8am CST daily = 0.005.

NO WORK AVAILABLE:
MQ: This is not specifically addressed per se; however it is not listed under downtime definitions at all. I doubt MQ ever pays for no work situations.

SPHERIS: Has a policy: "MTs will not receive compensation for "No WOrk Available" situations. If an MT runs out of work, the MT should immediately notify their Supervisor or follow th eout of work situation guidelines for their team."

Hope that helps.
My comparison of homeschooling to MTing at home.
"A full-time job isn't finished in 3 hours (like the abbreviated day many homeschoolers boast about). It's about being there on time, sticking to it even though you may not feel like it, and getting along with people you may not care for, and avoiding those who are not good for you."


DANG! And that's why I got into medical transcription. LOL I didn't want to work fulltime or stick it out in an office. And that whole getting there on time thing, oh, I've never been good with that one.
What a dumb comparison - apples & oranges
Geez. A lot of people can't spell, and they sure as heck don't belong managing a QA department for medical transcription - correcting other people's mistakes!
Anyone using DirectTV- what are the pros and cons in comparison to cableTV? nm
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I have the most recent version of Corel WP, but it pales in comparison to (sm)

Microsoft Office Small Business 2000 (MSWord, Excel, Outlook, IE5.0. ) This software works as flawlessly as the day I purchased it.  Patches never required.  No hang-ups or crashes.  The only alteration I have made to it, is that I am running the most current version of IE.  However, most of the time I use a tabbed browser for my web experience. 



Editing at home is tough. No comparison to the office, and much, much harder
than transcribing at home, especially with kids.  Wish I could help, but I can totally sympathize with you!
That is ridiculous
Sometimes people are not where they want to be but where they HAVE to be.  If I didn't have to be sitting here listening to these idiot dictators, believe me I wouldn't be.
ridiculous? no ....
I don't think my complaint was 'ridiculous'. What is ridiculous is receiving pages of scribbles in the mail on a daily basis - half of which I can't even read. THe other MT's in the company warned me already about this QA dude - he's a bit of a nut case.
No, I never claimed to know everything; and I'm open to hearing specs of individual facilities; of course!. My gripe was the pettiness of it all ... but I thought that was obvious in my post, MS Busy MT'ing. Maybe you're the one that doesn't know it all !
That's just ridiculous. nm
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This is getting ridiculous.
Now there's a job on the job seekers board looking for an IC MT to do acute care with ops for 7.5 cpl.  IC!!!  With ops!!!!  Give me a break.  That's equivalent to about 6.3 cpl after paying self-employment taxes, not to mention overhead.  Their website says "HIPPA" instead of HIPAA, too.
That's ridiculous!

BUT!  We are supposed to transcribe his work with a smile on our faces....GRRRR.......  I swear they just don't THINK!!!  Good luck with that one. 


That is ridiculous. Don't come WHY?
Looks like at the very least he enjoys his peace and quiet away from family but then maybe there is more to this than meets the eye.
That's ridiculous

I also have a 4-year-old and the whole point of preschool at this age is the social interaction, then the academics come in to play.  She still has another year of preschool before Kindergarten, doesn't she?  Maybe you should consider looking into another preschool.  Sounds like the teacher is the problem. 


Oh please, how ridiculous!
It was her sister for crying out loud! And I can't even believe the OP was questioning this. Extremely odd! ;0
Ridiculous
That is really time consuming.  But that is my opinon.  What you could do is to by sylcount and save each patient as a file and then count them and they would list each file out by the patient name.  You could do an extension or by their name do cn for chart note, lt for letter, etc.  Then on your invoice if you do totals by doctor, Dr. Smith total lines, Dr. Jones total lines, etc. and attach the print out from Sylcount that would show each file by the patient's name and the line count.  I thought it was bad when I was subcontracting and I had to break out chart notes from letters/consults/x-rays by date and doctor.  This again makes me thank my accounts as I just keep an Excel monthly line count by doctor, highlight the docs, attach to an invoice that has total line counts done in Quick Books and hand it in and they pay.  Some accounts don't even want the daily break down by doctor just each doctor and a total line count.  Have never been questioned once over my line counts.   If this is a sudden change then I would tell them that there would be an hourly rate to figure this out and keep track of the time it takes.  But again, one of the simplest programs that would do this for you would be Sylcount.   Good luck. 
Really ridiculous especially when...

typing into the hospital system because all they have to do is type in a few things and get this information. 


That's ridiculous.

Is it ridiculous
to list a Brainbench certification for medical transcription on your resume?
Ridiculous
Sometimes I wonder how much nicer this industry would be without all the control fanatics.  I wish they could just be shipped out to some island to battle amongst themselves, play those control games that they enjoy so much, and leave us to complete the work in a rational time period without all these ridiculous rules.
Seems ridiculous
As much "fixing up" we do of what is actually dictated, I think it's pretty crappy if you get points off for simple punctuation.

Just think if we all left everything completely verbatum (especially those dictators who say coma every other word or say to put periods in the middle of a sentence)!
the start up $$ is ridiculous

That's what I think is so sinful.  They sucker you in telling


you can be an employee, you can make 12,000 a pay period


easY!


None of that is true.  And then you are left trying to figure out


how to pay the insurance, pay for the computer you sunk money


into buying and meeting their requirements, reference books,


the whole 9 yards.


And do they have a conscience about leaving a mom and her children


with no food?   I really doubt it.


And NO a new MT is not then ready for the next job because


all over again he/she will have to INVEST in the new stuff that


THAT particular company to meet THEIR peculiarities.


I'm sick of transcription now.  When they sent us home - that relinquised


the responsibility of these nationals from providing equipment and


turned all the $$ over to profit for them and ate $$ out of our income - not to


speak of the extra utilities run while home.  This computer heats up


my house terribly in the summer - it helps in the winter but it still makes


a considerable dent in my bill compared to my neighbors who work during the


day. 


Ridiculous complaint?

Busy, you should really try to be a little kinder.....or read her complaint a little more closely.  I think her complaint was not about CONSTRUCTIVE feedback.  If she gets hard copies she can't read, what good are they?  Just how ridiculous this QA thing can get; one of the editors in a company I worked for corrected my "40-year-old black female" to 40-year-old Black female."  No problem, if that's what they want, that's what they get.  I corrected my Expander to "Black."  Editor #2 comes along and corrects me saying "black or white" is never capitalized.  I fired back a very disgruntled e-mail and said editor #1 had corrected me and that I KNEW black was never capitalized but if they wanted it capitalized, fine with me but somebody needed to get their sh*t together and figure out what they wanted from me.  At least with that company, editor #2 had some sense, she sent back a very nice e-mail saying that to appease editor #1 to go ahead and capitalize it until I was off QA and then do it whichever way I wanted and in the meantime she would not count me off for it.  At least editor #2 had some sense but ridiculous?  YES, indeed. 


Busy, if you're working for both MQ and Spheris, I assume your experience is about the same as mine.  I worked for MQ and for Spheris when they were Edix.  Once I was off full edit (in a very short time), I never heard anything from either company QA again so I assume they were happy and I went right ahead doing my best.


Ridiculous, it you can't at least make 10 cpl

why not stick to your guns and work in something else for a while?  Who can eat as a newbie at 3 cpl.  If you work at McDonald's you would at least be able to eat!


No wonder the market has gone into the toilet.  It is full of workers who won't stand up for themselves!  If the docs want someone cheap, they get what they pay for.  I am also sick and tired of typing record reviews with mistakes from EMR and dirt cheap workers included.  But they do get the medical words most of the time.  Forget the easy words like seat, it's sit, and that drives me nuts !!


The docs will never get sued like that, so don't count on that one!


No, the whole thing is ridiculous.

I agree he shouldn't have taken the money at all, but it shouldn't have been offered or put him in the situation at all.  Despite whether or not the incident was handled perfectly, it is unfair that he was expected to wait for treatment because of disputes over who pays.  He was unable to reach his employer, everyone was gone, small company.  Reports and money can be figured out later, not when he needs immediate treatment for possibly broken bone or at the very least a nasty effusion that needs drained and could later affect his tendons.


The system is definitely broken.


I'm sorry but I think it is ridiculous for "businesses"
I know I want itemized statements for services. Wouldn't you?

Your own bookkeeping and accounting does NOT give you direct pay, true. It is part of running your business.

Where do charges stop? Do you need to be paid to get out of bed in the morning? To walk to your computer? To turn ON your computer? To load your programs?

Something, ladies, you simply have to do for yourself.

to me, your response is RIDICULOUS!
"American workers are pricing themselves out of the market with both their hourly wage demands......." This is YOUR statement. How else am I supposed to see it?? BTY, I am NOT whining, just stating the FACTS (as I see them). You had your say, and I had mine. Grow up!
Sometimes I think some of these doctors get more and more ridiculous ...

by the day.


I feel for you in this and will be sending positive thoughts your way that you'll get through the rest of the day without becoming too overwhelmed and stressed out.


That pay is ridiculous even for a newbie
If you graduated and did well from a good school (such as M-Tec or Andrews) you will have no trouble finding a decent job for decent pay. Starting pay for newbies should be in the 7-8-cents a line range. No lower than 6.

At 4 cents a line,at 100 lines per hour (typical for a newbie) that's only 4 dollars an hour. At 150 lines per hour it's only 6 dollars an hour.

I think this company is trying to get someone who has NO actual MT experience and may be desperate to work at home--maybe have skid-by skills.


No. Not for PT, not for FT, not ever. That kind of pay is beyond ridiculous.
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Okay, I just started SR, but come on! This is ridiculous. SM

First, this is an American, clear as a bell dictator.  Dictation does not come more straight forward than this guy:


SR:  This is a vaginal lady


Actually dictated:  This is a 51-year-old lady


Somebody explain to me how SR is such a wonderful tool?!?!?!


I am doing SR on Dictaphone EXText and it is just awful.  Reports are just full of this kind of crap.  I was just wondering does the Dictaphone SR server "learn."  I know there are some SR programs that learn after the same correction is made consistently.  The SR server will then auto correct itself.  Is this true with Dictaphone?  Because I have been doing SR for a couple of months now and it hasn't gotten any better and I'm making the same corrections over and over!  I might as well be transcribing!


The ridiculous part
... they should know I am smart enough to know the difference. This makes me think that they are concerned about me getting information they would rather I did not have.
That's ridiculous, since you have been working
for about 3 years.
MTSOs work together with MT schools which do anything possible to lure people into their training programs.

Just keep looking and testing until you get hired.

As far as I know one can only get 'additional taining' through an internship (there are very few out there and they ask for a fee and do not pay for work doneduring the internship)) or to register into a complete program.
There are no short 'refresher courses.

If I were you I would ontinue to apply. And don't let 'them' tell you that you are not good, you are good, they only want your money.
That's absolutely ridiculous. Why don't they fix it?
Are you pretty sure from past experience that it's not just ''saying'' it wrong on the results, but if the post does get 10 actual Thumbs Down, it's still automatically deleted?

We should really test it out with this post. Come on, folks, vote only Thumbs Up for this sucker, and let's see if it gets ''automatically'' deleted or not. (Vote on the original post, of course.)
No ONE should do VR for that ridiculous price.
Mine is 4 cpl and with straight intermixed you can make a decent salary.
Simply ridiculous. There are many people here who

have entered viewpoints on certain subjects.  It is an insult to MTStars for you to entertain the notion that only one person would post here with views different than what you would like to see.  Get over yourself and have a nice day for a change.


 


Maybe things have crossed over to ridiculous

They better soon get some work or everyone will quit anyway. This is getting ridiculous. There is no
doubt they have some agenda with all this continuous hiring and no work.
You're ridiculous. He's an adult and she can't do that.
She can talk to him, keep the lines of communication open with him, pray for him, but she has to decide what consequences she is willing to accept by where she draws her line of acceptance.

You cannot make decisions for grown children.

What a hateful parent to even try. Counsel them with a tender heart-to-heart but try to force them into living like yourself? HATEFUL.


Out of curiosity, what are the ridiculous demands?
Just curious what they might be. 
That kind of inflexibility is RIDICULOUS! nm
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Small MTSO here - 6 cpl -- ridiculous

I as a small MTSO would be so embarassed to offer 6 cpl to anyone.  Could not believe what I read.   At the most I take  20 - 25% of what I charge clients and pay the IC the 80%.  I even do the pick up, QA, billing and delivery of finished products.  But to offer 6 cpl is a slap in the face.  Even newbies I offer 7.5 to 8 cpl and start them on the easiest accounts.   Hopefully she can sleep at night and look at her face in the mirror.