show me an offshore MT/QA that can do correct grammar and I will eat my hat and yours!!! nm

• All our jobs, not just MT's are in jeopardy.. - dinosaur
  • All About Offshore - AnnieK
    • show me an offshore MT/QA that can do correct grammar and I will eat my hat and yours!!! nm - old ears
      • You would have to do a lot of hat-eating ... - AnnieK
    • It is because the US wants it handed to them. Nobody wants to work 3rd shift. - lazy US (hear me out)
    • As editor, I have yet to see offshore work with correct - grammar and sentence structure. Hi IQ doesnt = goo
      • High IQ doesnt = good MT. - nm
        • Grammar & Other Things - AnnieK
          • Oh really, now, then how - edit
          • Possibly, but they are the exception, - not the rule!
    • Annie K-I take issue with your comments...sm - dinosaur
      • Offshore Can Work - AnnieK
        • To AnnieK - looftm
          • My hospital sends their work to a company - that offshores to S. Africa -sm
            • My involvement in this discussion ... - AnnieK
          • Of Course You Can ... - AnnieK
            • Maybe you're too sensitive - looftm
              • Play The Ball, Not The Man - AnnieK
              • Arrogance, not arrogancy - nm - looftm
            • To Annie K - anon
        • Offshore can work? Obviously it can and does....sm - dinosaur
          • I think mismanagement is a HUGE factor, here! - no mssg
          • Thanks Dinosaur, I Do Understand - AnnieK
            • If you get more per line in your own country, then - why even ACCEPT American work?
        • Oops - horrid typo - AnnieK
          • Don't worry-I'm not the grammar police...(sm) - dinosaur
  • Get the facts - Debbie
    • Hold on before you take that survey! - Anon
      • I took it - magsMT
      • Umm, I took the survey and it had no questions that - asked for personal info. (nm)
  • Good post! What I find especially ironic - Margaret
  • Well-said! You are a good spokesperson for - - sm
  • People are already aware of this and - happy MT
    • If you can't outsource, then bring them here - Glory1863
      • I think some of that is due to lack of training as well- - Margaret
        • About 5 or so years ago, India was using American MTs to train them! - sm
          • As well it SHOULD! 'Bout TIME, too! - NoMsg
      • The point of the article was that outsourcing isn't working - happy MT
        • sorry, meant offshoring isn't working, not outsourcing - happy MT nm
          • I think it is important to point out that offshoring isn't just a MT problem... - Tinks
            • The linked article is about offshoring more than MT - sm
              • If there will always be work, why are the unemployment and - S-msg
                • There will always be work for MTs in the US. Just think, - sm
                  • But the problem is, as long as the offshores - sm

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Thank you. 

Goldbird

Some of the stuff I saw from subcontractors during testing made my jaw drop to the level of my fanny in utter disbelief!  We are talking about the use of grammar equivalent to what a sixth grader knows.  It is unbelievable  - that and things they don't even take the time to research. 

My personal favorites?  

"skin graph" 

"dorsalis peterson pulses"  

How about accuracy and grammar? Medicatios, etc. Sometimes the dictator will not even dictate if the report remains the same from last visit - What happens in this case??  

Thanks  

The use of commas depends on whether the clause is restrictive or nonrestrictive.  If it is nonrestrictive - that is, it may be informative but not necessary to the meaning of the sentence, then it is set off by commas.  On the other hand, if the clause is restrictive - that is, its use is imperative to the meaning of the sentence, then no commas are used.

Example:  That is the dog which ran off with my sandwich.   Restrictive because "which ran off with my sandwich" is necessary to the meaning of the sentence.

On the other hand:  That dog, which is wearing a yellow collar, ran off with my sandwich.  "Which is wearing a yellow collar" is not necessary to the meaning of the sentence; thus it is nonrestrictive and requires commas.

This subject can confuse a lot of people, because all they remember is setting the clauses off by commas and forget the restrictive and nonrestrictive rules.

English is a growing, changing language, and sometimes what were rules 50 years ago are no longer the rules for today.  We may argue against that - that grammar is grammar and should remain - but if that were the case we would all still be writing like Shakespeare or the early constitutionalists.  Look at their writings and decide if you would like to still have to write like that. 

Fewer commas is the trend for today, and I guess we will have to embrace the fact that time doesn't stand still for any of us, nor does the English language. 

First of all, a coma is a medical condition.  A comma is a punctuation mark.

Yes, you are correct about independent clauses being set off by commas.  However, the tendency in medical dictation/transcription has been toward simplifying the language and grammar, to the point where many doctors don't even dictate complete sentences any more.  Punctuation of all types is avoided unless absolutely necessary.

We old school grammarians can have kind of a hard time letting go of the rules we learned when studying grammar and the English language.  It is a whole new world out there, and it seems the motto is "adapt or step out of the way". 

If you do know grammar, it isn't a part-time thing, it is part of your daily life and the way you express yourself. I'm not talking about colloquialisms or "natural speech", I'm talking about things like - and I quote - "how little we (the transcriptionist) is getting paid" and "make us or brake us". To name just two instances.

I have NEVER posted a "grammar police" message before, but since the OP specifically said that these letters must be well written and well edited, I felt it was pertinent to bring up the subject.

If you are going to ask others to use correct grammar, you should do so yourself. It's as simple as that.

I make mistakes in posts from time to time.  I am just disappointed and frustrated by the "holier than thou" attitudes of working MTs and then they don't even use proper grammar in their posts.  I don't want this to turn into a negative thread.  What companies hire experienced MTs and actually care about grammar?