she was in Mexico for treatment for cancer, BUT...
Posted By: sm on 2006-02-03
In Reply to: Coretta Scott King died in Mexico, while being treated. ---what does that say about - medical care in United States?
From what I heard on GMA a few days ago, the clinic she was in was deplorable. There was even an article about it on the Watchdog website, AND the man running the clinic was NOT a doctor. So, what does that say about the person or persons who took this woman there for treatment?
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It's Laetrile and it was supposedly used for cancer treatment
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What about Mexico?
Mexico is our neighbor next door and how would you feel if they started shipping our transcription to Mexico, just like it goes to India? Would you then feel the same way about your Canadian neighbors? It's just something to think about--not trying to start a ruckus here.
I can tell you what it's like in Mexico...
I've been to the clinic w/ my hubby before when he was sick...the facilities are overcrowded, you can't make appointments, and they give antibiotics for EVERYTHING. One doctor told my husband that he had a bacterial infection w/o even taking cultures. This is the place you go when you have insurance, by the way. The private practices are better, but I'm not sure how much better.
I personally will NOT go to the doctor here except in emergency!!!
WVM Mexico for one
treats you like crap if you do not understand them even if you are a tourist. I am talking outside of the "touristy areas", the real Mexico that is two blocks behind the waterfront hotels?? I have been there three times for a month each time and I was not an American tourist. I was there with my Mexican husband living and interacting amongst the REAL PEOPLE who live there, not the ones working in the tourism industry. They are no different than here. The business interactions are worse but instead of me boo hooing, I understood exactly where they were coming from. It is no different when we are in other people's countries especially if you want to become a citizen there. Their rules are so much stricter than ours in most other countries and that is the way it should be.. We are not strict enough at all here. It's is awful some of the people we accept here as Citizens who are unwilling to assimilate. I can't stand reading all of this. It makes me sick how ignorant some of you all sound. I did not expect so many negative reactions to the original poster. It actually scares me here the ignorance. Why don't you get out of this country for awhile and see what the rest of the world is like!!! Same with Canada!! They treat you different there too because they know when you are an American. We stand out like a sore thumb up there!! I did not get offended and I have been up there several times because I used to live in Washington state. However, I bet if you assimilated and adapted to their culture as well that they would welcome you. So this has nothing to do with race or anything else like that!!!
This might work in Mexico
This might work in Mexico, since all (yes, ALL) gas stations are owned by the same company. But in the US...no way. There are too many companies, the hurt wouldn't be big enough even if you could get it going on a national level.
JMO
Cozumel, Mexico
Quiet, peaceful, and very relaxing. The ocean is unbelievable and very warm. Very romantic!!!
TMJ treatment
I have had TMJ for years. I had an appliance that I wore for years, and it helped, but was nothing permanent. I don't remember everything I did, but quite a few things. This year we started going to a chiropractor, and one of the things he has worked on is the TMJ issue. He uses some kind of a little tool on the jaw, gives it a click or two, which pushes on the bone at the joint, and this has helped more than anything I have done over the years. My daughter also has TMJ, and this very simple treatment has helped her, too. I don't know if all chiropractors do this or not. He isn't a go-in-and-have-your-back-adjusted-because-it-hurts kind of guy. We started out seeing him three times a week, and are now down to twice a week. He has helped all of us (hubby, daughter, grandson, too), and we consider him a big part of our health care. Knowing what I know now, I'd certainly opt for this very simple treatment before I did surgery, braces, appliances, etc.
QA Treatment
Well said MTheaded.
Mexico is a 3rd world country-- that's why all of them are here
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There is no apparent accountability in Mexico.
Many people go there as a last resort, when all traditional treatment has failed. I think it was Steve McQueen who went there for "coffee enemas". I've never heard a success story yet. I don't think it speaks bad our healthcare system, although Lord knows it needs fixing. Have you ever watched the news when they are in third world countries and you have 20 patients in the same room, no equipment, usually only the most basic medications, little if any skilled medical personnel. When I was in Brazil years ago, they had 2 woman in labor in the SAME bed.
OUTSOURCE OF DMV RECORDS TO MEXICO
Check this out - it seems that the outsourcing is growing and growing. Now the DMV in Orange County, California is outsourcing to Mexico. It seems they are blaming the media for publicizing this, but not admitting to the potential for danger that this poses. See the link below:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/27/outsourcing-dmv-data-to-mexico/
Her life in Mexico is irrelevant. She is still an
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aggressive treatment sm
You are correct. I hope I never get that QA person!
I wish you the best of luck with your treatment.
I worked with a lady who underwent treatment for a lung mass and she worked up until she got too tired, but bounced back really well once the treatment was over. She came back really strong. There are so many new modalities to treat it. As far as your work, I am wondering if you could try to do as much as possible and find someone in your area to assist when needed. The reason I say this is because this will keep you sort of balanced. You don't want to give up your clients because they will be support as well. You may just want to mention it to someone you trust at the practice, and I think you'll be surprised at how supportive some offices can really be when you are dealing with these types of issues as an independent. Take care and God Bless!
Who is dishing out the bad treatment?
Sometimes I have to remind myself that those persons at these companies who treat/treated me badly are not the owners. The recruiters, QA, trainers, account reps, supervisors, unpleasant person who answers the phone, etc., are usually employees as well. Whenever I have experienced foul treatment at a company, it has come from these other employees. Whenever I have actually had contact with an owner, they have generally been very nice and respectful. Of course, I'm not referring here to pay rates and benefits, just attitude and respect.
I don't understand your question at all. She was being treated in Mexico
so what does that have to say about the US? Makes no sense.
New message on New Mexico state board nm
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I hope you're OK and are looking into treatment.
I had a bit of a cancer scare myself about a month ago on top of losing my job the month before that. The doctor said I'll probably still need surgery but the condition isn't malignant. I'm getting rid of things left and right and trying to figure out what to do with my life now. I even gave up on two of my hobbies because I never have time for them. Well, you take care of yourself. {{{{hugs}}}}
Just Finished Treatment for Sciatica
I was diagnosed with sciatica/piriformis syndrome about a month ago. My physiatrist sent me to physical therapy for Graston therapy and iontophoresis. I was to the point where I had to sleep in my recliner with a heating pad on my hip. Of course, this is the result of sitting for too long......a battle wound common to the medical transcriptionist.
The Graston therapy is pretty painful and you really wonder how it could possibly help. The iontophoresis consisted of a patch with two large circular pads connected by an electrode. The pads are soaked with dexamethasone. The patch is then stuck to the butt for 24 hours. It's painless, except I pulled off a couple of layers of skin when I removed them. I had this done about 5-6 different times over a three-week period. I was also taught some gentle stretches to stretch these muscles, which I haven't been too diligent about doing.
Bottom line is that I completed my PT about two weeks ago and I haven't had any pain since then. I hope you get some relief for your condition. I know how very painful it can be.
or "more agressively treatment"....
that hurts my ears! LOL
Why I deserve more money and better treatment as an MT...
I do NOT transcribe "medial sonoscopy."
Good Lord.
Bush is speaking tonight on Mexico border at 8
I just heard on TV that Bush will be speaking at 8 pm on ABC insteady of Oprah's Legend Ball, and when he's done, last night's Grey's Anatomy will be rerun and then the 2-hour finale from 9-11 pm EST.....
So if ya missed it last night, you'll get about 3 hours tonight of the Season Finale.......
Symptomatic treatment is the only thing you can do, and watch for
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I'd give the kids the same treatment on their birthday....sm
that should get their attention!
Sounds like you are giving them star treatment!
Good job!
But be sure to drink lots of fluid after a treatment and...
you might get on a good calcium with magnesium supplement to aid in good healthy of your bones. My chiropractic treatments have decreased tremendously since I got on the drinkable kind! Good luck......there's enough pain in the MT world these days without pain in one's body, too!
Coretta Scott King died in Mexico, while being treated. ---what does that say about
Thanks for the replies. He is looking forward to the Tacos in Mexico! He is a great kid. Will Pray!
NM
i have telangiectasia on face. laser treatment - very painful...but works
what could be more unsightly that broken veins on the face? well, lucky me, i have them. eveyr few years go in for treatment. electrical zaps to destroy broken blood vessel. Hurts like the dickens though. Can't use pain relievers because it causes constriction of blood vessels, they told me.
Meant to say normal treatment for woman in Amish comnmunity. nm
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cancer
My husband might be diagnosed with oral cancer. He has had a lump in his cheek for awhile and wasn't really concerned about it until he went to the doctor for a check-up. The doc is sending him to have it looked at more thoroughly. Any words of encouragement or anyone that has gone through this. Thanks
Cancer
Please let me know if you need any moral support and feel free to write me. Read my post on MTStars.
Margaret
cancer.
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cancer.org
They have a great cancer drug list. I really like oncology except when my doc does a weeks worth of dictations all in one day.
why so much cancer?
Did you know about the atomic bomb testing/nuclear bomb testing done around the world? Well worth researching. I was shocked to find out that it was more than originally led on, well over 700 bombs and I cann't remember if it is just our country or if the numbers were world wide. Then we have companies that polute our water, our land fills, our air... We have paved roads that are giving off gases constantly into the air, not including the vehicles that give off gases continuously, encircling the earth. Do you know about the carcinogens in the plastics that hold bottled water? Chemicals added to food is going to build up in the tissues... Deodorant is not safe, either, and we don't stop there with hygiene chemicals...
cancer sites
I usually use the NIH-National Cancer Institute site. It has listing of clinical trials, types of drugs, different types of cancer treatments. I also depend heavily on the Oncology Word Book by Stedman.
Okay, my experience with cancer
Rather I should say my husband's. He was diagnosed 6 years ago with stage III colorectal cancer. Very advanced out of the bowel wall. They did not think they could cure it, but did say maybe remission. I was floored and in tears always. My hubby was a young man, 50. He had been misdiagnosed by several other doctors and it had reached a very large size by the time it was found. It was found by a doctor I did transcription for. This was God's intervention, because I feel this wonderful doctor was put in our lives to save my husband. He came and asked me several times to do his transcription and I was so busy I turned him down, but he was such a nice man, I finally said okay. Well I was talking to him and I mentioned my husband's problem and he said to bring him into the office. This doctor found the cancer on my husband's first visit. We had a wonderful surgeon and a wonderful oncologist. (By the way, all except the surgeon were ESLs so I love doing ESLs now, have a soft touch for them.)
My husband had a very large cancer. They were very concerned. We sought alternative therapies, in addition to traditional therapies of chemo and radiation. He had a 6-hour surgery, blood transfusions twice, blood clots, DVT, abscesses, etc. It was touch and go, I felt. Like being on a rollercoaster. We prayed and prayed. We spent lots of money on alternative therapies that we researched on the internet. Also he had conventional therapy, except had to stop the chemo because of low blood counts.
Well my hubby is still alive today, no sign of the cancer. In the doctor's consultation letter he uses the word "amazing" about not finding ANY sign of cancer during the surgery. Everything was just dead tissue, they could find no viable cancer, just friable tissue. I really believe that with the help of prayer, the angels, God, alternative and natural therapies, plus excellent regular medical treatment, a positive attitude and creative visualization (which my husband also used) that it saved his life. We moved 3000 miles after that cancer to where we always wanted to live in the mountains on a farm, both our dreams. I feel like I am living in heaven. I don't get too worried about what is going on at transcription companies, just do my work, because are so much more important things to concentrate on.
Very little gets either of us down anymore because we learned the hard way what is truly important in life. My three children have their dad still and I still have my husband.
Good luck and I am praying for you. Remember, cancer IS curable.
Cancer - moody as all get-out and
sometimes very touched and concerned about my transcription patients. Even though I know they are totally in another part of the US.
Leo. On the cusp with Cancer.
Very appropriate!
Cancer ..... Leo cusp nm
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Just had a doc say a guy with gastric cancer was...
admitted to the OB/GYN service. (I didn't miss something in my training, did I?)
does anyone know if bone cancer is always..sm
metastatic or can cancer originate in the bone?
Breast cancer
Does any one on this board know where I might find a sample report with regards to breast cancer? Any tips greatly appreciated. I want to be sure to get all of the stages ect. right on and though I have MT experience this is my first shot in the area of breast cancer clinics.
Breast Cancer
Thank you for your kind thoughts. I was diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma. I had a sterotactic biopsy last Wed. I had one 4 years ago that was clean and assumed this one was too. Yikes!! That didn't happen. I was given an option of mastectomy or lumpectomy and radiation. That's the good news, as the tumor is less than 5 cm. I'm really scared. I recently moved to Virginia (about 60 miles south of Roanoke) so I haven't made any friends and no close family nearby. Luckily, I'm close enough to the local hospital and work at home to be able to go for the daily radiation treatments for 6 weeks. Surgery is scheduled for next Friday and then the wait to find out if the cancer has spread, what type, the extent of the treatment, etc. I really do appreciate everyone's kindness and prayers. I will also buy a copy of the book tomorrow. Also have a really good to reason to march with all the "pink" ladies now :-) Bless you all for your kindness
Breast Cancer
Thank you so much for your words. Of course, I was so unprepared, and my world is not what it was 4 days ago. My only son is graduating from college on the west coast in mid June (I'm on the east coast) and it will be cutting it close to get my tired butt on a flight, but I'm determined to make it :-)
cancer terms
http://www.onelook.com
http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/
It won't take cancer to quit smoking. Try
ASTHMA, a common problem for smokers. When you can't breathe when there is a strange odor around such as perfume, you won't get near a cigarette because if you do, you won't be able to breathe. You will cough, and choke and gasp for air and feel air hunger when you sit down. It is not a fun way to live, and I absolutely LOVED my cigarettes, a real hard core addict to nicotine.
Yes, Libra, with Cancer rising.
for lung cancer in 1980.......nm
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A breast cancer warning sm
Let me tell you a true story. I am hesitant to tell it because I want every woman to have a mammogram and to be tested as often as possible. In 2000 a surgeon I had trusted for 30 years read my path report of a biopsy he did for a suspicious small lump. The pathology report came back as "atypical ductal carcinoma insitu which some may call atypical hyperplasia." This surgeon literally yelled in my face "You have breast cancer and that breast has to come off." Due to the fact that friends of mine had suffered lymphoma and other complications from mastectomy, I asked him again if mastectomy was the only answer. He was extremely stern with me and said it was, and my only other alternative would be lumpectomy with radiation and he would not guarantee it. Due to other problems of health issues in the family (serious) I wondered about my ability to type or transcribe again. I even asked him to keep it from my husband until I decided what to do and he called my husband in his office (my husband was very ill at the time). I called my health care provider and asked about a second opinion, they said get as many as I was comfortable with. I was referred to the head of oncology at another facility (IMPORTANT) and he referred me to a breast surgeon. I told her that I had read Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book and I read about surgeons leaving "dirty margins" from the first biopsy and questioned if lumpectomy would be just as good as mastectomy. I told the second surgeon (a breast surgeon) I had heard of a physician from "Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book"who practiced at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee. The new breast surgeon did the second operation which was removal of the rest of the "dirty margins" and my slides were sent to Vanderbilt. Their opinion was that no further treatment would be necessary. The breast surgeon called a tumor board meeting and it was their opinion that they were not sure if I did indeed have "breast cancer." The radiologist who was at that tumor board meeting said she would not radiate me since they were not sure it was cancer, as if I did get cancer back in that breast, she could not radiate me again. By the way, the first surgeon whom I had trusted for 30 years told me to "to go ahead and listen to your neighbor and your hairdresser and you'll be back here with more cancer and it will be too late for you then because we don't know what's in the rest of that breast!" He also was very angry that the other doctors told me I had every right to have a plastic surgeon present at operation to install Expanders should I decide to have a mastectomy and want plastic surgery down the road. He was very upset with that and upset at the fact that I would have had my own plastic surgeon of my choice. He wanted that mastectomy done "last week" were his very words. Well, it's 2006, I have had 6 month mammos on that breast and yearly mammos on both breasts since 2000. I did have a needle aspiration for the tiniest lump in that breast which was benign, then I had a stereotactic biopsy on that breast because I was watched closely for 5 years, that biopsy was insufficient for diagnosis, so I underwent another surgical biopsy in 1/05 which turned out to be "atypia." So, whether I am a fool for not having the mastectomy, I can't really say, but I can say that I did question, read, study, make my own decisions. I did not have a mastectomy in 2000, I still have that same breast (a bit smaller, but who cares?) and I still have negative mammos every 6 mos. except for the two ? findings later on. I refused tamoxifen for my own personal reasons, although it is the treatment of choice. I am very, very reluctant to tell this story for fear of just one woman letting a cancer go undetected. On the other hand, I am telling it here (now for the first time) because I want women to know they have a right to make a decision with regard to their own bodies and ask intelligent questions. You have every right. Just be sure you get many high-level opinions. By the way, I did get put on a lot of prayer lists as well. I do believe God helps those who help themselves. I will never be sorry for the chances I took and the choices I made. I hope that trusted old surgeon is NOT right (my new breast surgeon says he is from the "days of yore"}. The important thing is to get tested, get more than one opinion and please, please, if you believe, pray, and talk, talk, talk, and read, read, read. Learn when to say "yes" and learn when to say "no". I hope I didn't scare anyone, but there is hope and help out there for those who are willing to use their intelligence. For any of you who think I did it for cosmetic reasons -- absolutely not! I would not have even wanted expanders for further plastic surgery. I am a grandmother, not interested in body beautiful. I was the sole source of income due to an unfortunate circumstance with my husband and we would both have been "down" at the same time. I did it because I had to at least ask what my options were. So far, so good. Please pray that I did the right thing and please know that you too have "options" to consider. Please be sure to go to a "different" facility for a "different" opinion, not the same as the one who diagnosed you. I sure hope this helps someone some day, but please, please if the second opinion says the breast must be removed, then you will absolutely have to listen and you will do fine. My new breast surgeon said if it were ever necessary, she could remove both breasts, freeze and save the nipples and do a reconstruction for her patients if they desired it down the road. There are tons of new options for us out there. But ASK!. My message to you is GET CHECKED, and make those checkups regular, there are clinics that will take you for free. I hope if they do find something, you have as good a result as I did. Please go, and please ask questions and get other opinions. Good luck and God bless. Hope I helped someone today but I really, really do not want anyone to miss anything that could kill them, so be aware that this is only my story, but it's true and it may give someone else with atypical ductal carcinoma in-situ some help, hope and understanding.A mastectomy is not a bad thing, not in today's world, but I want you to know that there are tons of options for you and I hope you take advantage of the best ones for you, God forbid, you every need that kind of help. You may E-mail me but I won't "practice medicine without a license," I just want to share my experience and strength with you and urge you to get tested soon!
I know what you mean, I lost my dad to lung cancer....sm
about 9 months ago and then my 12-day-old grandson passed away the day after my father passed away. It seemed like for the next month or so every day I typed at least two terminal cancer patients and several sick children. It is hard not to get emotionally attached sometimes.
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