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per page is better with rad than per line - sm

Posted By: rad on 2005-10-11
In Reply to: Radiology rate ? - Boo

Per line means you will work your hiney off just to make any $$. Per report is the best way to go. I was paid $1.40 per report. I averaged about $33-35/hour and worked 3 hours a day.

If I worked onsite for a radiologist I was paid $88 (EIGHTY-EIGHT) for 2 (TWO)hours onsite.




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Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
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Hi all...if you had an account with progress notes where you use a previous visit note for the patient and then only change the date and the vital signs on the new note for the patient, would you charge by the line for those reports or by the page? These are physical therapy notes where the patient comes for HUMS therapy just about every day to every other day of the week, so everything in the note stays the same except the date and vitals. Thanks in advance.
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It can be anywhere from 40 pages to 75/80 pages depending on the length of the report.
page v. line count
I'm basing that on 1200 lines per day!
Per page versus per line
Does anyone know how to compare a per-page rate versus a per 65-character incl. spaces rate?
Question regarding IC pay by line vs. by page...

I am a Southern California IC for two chiropractors and soon starting a third chiropractor in a few weeks.  I charge $1.50 - $3.00 per page.  Usually the notes are 10-25 gross lines and sometimes (1-2x/wk) a  60+ line report.  I do approximately 150 reports a week total with the two chiros.  So after paying gas, paper, ink, taxes, etc., I feel like I am making very little for what I am putting out. 


So now I am considering charging by the line, but worry on how much to charge.  I print out all reports, pick up and deliver 2x/wk, and pay for all materials including disks for backup.  I feel I should be making more, but worry what to charge.  Does anyone have an amount that sounds fair?  I was thinking in the lines of  .16 or .17 per line, does that sound right?


TIA~


 


paid by page or line
wondering how many people out there get paid by the page instead of by the line? I am getting paid by the page (varies from 1.50 to 1.80 a page, and half that for less than 15 lines on a second page). Welcoming any insights to what others are getting.....thanks!
I get paid by the line. Pay by the page is a ripoff sm

I do a lot of MRI/CAT scan/neuroradiology, etc.  These are sometimes long drawn-out reports and sometimes go to 2 to 2-1/2 pages. 


Most companies that pay by the page only pay at most $2.00 a page.  You can make more by the line. 


Thanks! I have also noticed that some radiology is by the page and not the line... sm
is there a specific reason for this?

TIA
ICs -- what are your rates right now? what are you charging per line, page, minute, etc?

I'm trying to get my own docs and want to set rates that are equivalent to everyone else so as not to undercut and lower our industry standards. But, I can't seem to find out what rates are locally, soooo, as much input as possible would be appreciated.  Anyway, I know that local family practices have been quoted by the hour, by the minute, by the line, by the page, and so on.


I don't really want to do by the minute -- it makes them feel like they have to dictate at sonic speed. Some of them balk at by the line because no matter what you tell them, they feel like they are penalized for having nice formats. They balk at by the page because they think you will extend it to 2 pages for more money. Then there are the ones who gripe about hourly rates because they feel like you will type slower to make more money. I actually typed a sample tape for a local practice a year ago and based on my rate the office manager figured it up PER PATIENT and said it was too much!! 


I know family practice docs and nurse practitioners don't make that much money but dangit I gotta feed my family too.


So help, please!!!!


 


 


I'm paid by the hour, but by page or line are both common.
I work on-site, which is why I'm hourly. I also think working on-site with the actual paperwork in front of you makes for the best quality. Otherwise there would be sooooo many tech errors or dictator mis-speaks that I wouldn't be able to research from home that it would drive me crazy. But lots of MTs do it, of course.
I know that for the hard page break, what about moving to the next line while keeping the justificat
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Personal page/web page resource
Paula,

Thanks a lot for sharing these great websites!
Yep, $2.00 a page and the page has about 30-40 lines on it nm
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NJ $3 page, though I have heard as low as $1 page.

When I worked for a national, up thru 2 years ago, I was getting $1.75 page and heard they got $4.


A gross line is anything on a line is a line. A line set at 65 characters means it sm
has 1-inch margins on each side. The maximum number of characters on that line would be 65 and that includes spaces. If there is 1 character on that line it is a line.

A standard 65-character line usually consists of 65 characters with spaces unless, of course, the employer does not pay for spaces and then it would be 65-characters without spaces.
Anything on the line makes up a line even if just one letter or number. Every line of print is a
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Gross line means anything on a line is counted as a line.

You can get an idea in the difference using documents you have already created, assuming you're working in Word. Simply open a document and check the properties. Click on the statistics tab and you will see the number of lines as well as characters with and without spaces. If you're currently getting paid by the line and a line is 65-characters with spaces, do the math and see how that number of lines compares with the number of lines in your stats.


One thing to keep in mind: if you have a blank line between paragraphs, instead of hitting the enter key twice, format your document to give the appearance of blank lines between paragraphs.


Gross line, also including blank lines because my line rate is so low. It all works out in the wash.
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$.06 gross line / .70 = approximately $.0857 cents per 65 character line.

A gross line is anything on a line versus 65 gross characters per net line the other way.  You make more money working for the gross line than for the 65 gross character line, as long as the line rate's OK.


A gross line is any line with typewritten characters on it - no matter how long or SM
how short.  So your gross lines may be longer than 65 characters, but you get credit even for a line as short as "Sincerely,".  If your gross lines are not being counted that way, then you are not being counted on gross lines and are probably getting screwed.  I'd look into that if I were you.
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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1) do you have a contract stating line counting and line rate,sm
if you look at the IRS website it's pretty clear what constitutes IC versus SE versus employee. You might want to photocopy that along with a copy of your contract with your next invoice and also put on the invoice any monies due from past invoices they "changed"...maybe catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Good luck!
New England, 16.50/hr, 8 cents a line after minimum line count..
full benefits available with general contribution by the hospital before you start paying for them, retirement, 403b, all benefits, and working at home as an employee, BUT, you have to live local to the hospital.
I changed my line to a business line, talked to a supervisor sm

at SBC, told him what I was using the service for, and got the okay to use it -- $49/month unlimited. 


I have also used The Neighborhood, and their unlimited is truly unlimited.  I also explained to them when I signed up what I was using it for and their comment was "unlimited means just that -- unlimited, no matter what."  I cannot remember how much they were, but it might be worth checking into for you.  (www.theneighborhood.com)


 


Good luck!


What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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Curious, do most IC's usually charge by the gross line or 65 character line?
Thank you~
it certainly is not pay worthy at 4.5 line or 3 line. I know the companies cram it down our throats
nm
It's on page 129 of the BOS II if they like to use it. nm
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Page, AZ
This last summer we took a driving trip and were set to stop in Page, AZ for one night... Ended up there for an extra night because of car trouble and we loved it -- the entire Page/Lake Powell area is gorgeous and we are planning a trip back asap -- I'm jealous!!
Their web page...
www.limewire.com explains why they aren't breaking any laws - something about there is no central hub where people are downloading music (as with Napster back in the day) but simply file sharing - so therefore it is legal. But I would never pay to download music - and I don't think the Beatles are upset about lost revenues!
per page
I actually work for a service by page and actually I do pretty well and feel almost better than a per line rate. I wonder if 60 lines is a combination of both text and blank lines?
Per page

I get paid gross line and from top to bottom of the page.  My rate is lower which is what the docs like and on chart notes just take the line count for word.  Kind of like your two lines on a page you get the page.  One word on the line, I get the line.  Also with my clinic notes, there is just one blank in between patients but I do get that line.  Of course I cut apart the notes for the clinic so that kind of pays it.  I also make good money and can't complain. 


 


By page

You need to turn it around so the doctor feels he is "saving money" by being charged by the line and therefore for only the part of the page that is completed.  Tell him that if you charge by 1/4 of the page anything over 10 lines would be a mininum of $1.50 - 2.00  and so he would be paying for part of the page that would not be filled up.   The same applies if he were to go only 1 line past the 1/2 page mark and thus pay for the entire page.  So make it seem more economical for him.  Also make sure that you figure your line charge out in the font you want to type in and if he wants a smaller, convert it over to charge out.  As long as they know that a gross line -- which is what I charge -- consists of how many characters in the Courier 12 font in, you are not cheating.  But show him how it would be beneficial for him to do the line charge and don't go with an attitude of "my way" show him you are looking out for him.   I would probably start out around 12 cpl per gross line as you will probably get a lot of standards that you can set up, etc.   So if work up to 200 to 300 lines per hour that is very good pay. 


Patti


Wow, we are both on the same page!
I would love to be a homemaker and be with my children, btw I dont have any yet, but that is what I would love to do!!! I agree with your comments totally on this board. Have a blessed day!
It's not there for me either. I think that and the mom page
should have a drop down in the menu thing above.
Could be anywhere from 1 page
to 5 pages.  These would be reports, not chart notes.
If you will look down the page...
There is a discussion about this. Here is a link to my post, which gives a link to the chair I currently use. I highly recommend it.
Are you saying $10 per page?
I just raised my rates to .12 for gross lines, old accounts but again I make good money per hour and just cannot justify raising higher.  I am happy.  That is gross line per Courier 12 and 1" margins.  With one account lots of consults and letters and can make $50 to $70+ per hour and so am happy.  Guess that would equal 13 to 14 65 cpl so that is in the ballpark.   My accounts pay on time, within 48 hours, never a bounced check, NEVER question my line counts or TAT.  I pick up and deliver, do envelopes, cut apart chart notes, and make good money.   Was just sick last week and did a pick up and delivery anyway and one of my docs told me to go home and rest and all others asked how I was feeling.   So do what is fair for all, do not price yourself out of the account as he could think that he could do it again himself but show him how much more free time he has and it is worth the money.   Oral surgeons will have lots of letters and op notes and so you can make a lot of standards and use a lot of expanders.   So you have the opportunity to make good money, again I always see what my bottom line is or hourly rate and not what cpl I charge.  
$1.30 per page???
I know it really depends on many factors, but I was wondering if $1.30 per page is a good rate?  I haven't typed a per page rate in years and I don't remember!  This would be a psych. account.  This company gives a template (I get paid for the template lines).  I am thinking this seems kind of low.   Any help would be appreciated.
$1.30 per page?

Oh, gosh...I almost fell over when I read this.  Maybe I missed something here, but when I had my own private accounts a few  years ago I was charging $5-$6 per page, which was actually low at that time.  The reason was that these docs were excellent dictators (hand-picked, of course), and $ wasn't an issue. 


I'd be interested in any other input.


Good luck.


$1.30 page
They should be ashamed of themselves. Don't take the job! I type speech pathology reports and charge $5.00 per page and do 200 pages a month for the last 8 years. These reports take up every inch of the paper, as they do not say
"new paragraph" very often
You can do better I'm sure!

I get $2.00 per page

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pay per page
Does anyone know the average $ per page, not radiology but clinic notes?
That still is not a paid line rate. If your base is $0.10 per line, it will be $0.08 cpl.
Considering other companies pay 4 or 5 cents per line for VR - you are still making out.

Question about what is PAID for a line and what is BILLED for a line
Does the MTSO actually bill for headers, footers, and other things the transcriptionists are not paid for?  I worked for a company a while back and their copy of what each Transcriptionist typed the day before and our copy was a lot different, about 30% different.  Their copy was the billing copy. So, double their enhanced amount and subtract our 9 cents a line, it comes to a bigger profit than what I thought.   
What's the diff between a gross line and a 65-char line?

Mebbe just got my first OWN ACCOUNT YAY!  He said to charge him the "going rate" since I pay him that.  This could be the start, baby!  (I hope)



A gross line is any amount of characters on a line

for instance...


MEDICATIONS:


Effexor


Prevasid


 


A 65 character line without spaces is black marks on the page only and 65 w/spaces is everything... tabs, spaces, numbers, letters, bold, etc.


 


 


that should be "up .02/line" NOT up "to" .02/line. geez. nm
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