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illegals and jobs

Posted By: Long gone MT on 2007-06-30
In Reply to: i can't blame you in your situation, but if you look at the total picture sm - LMT

My 2 cents. They should throw the book at anyone hiring illegals in the first place. Fine any business tremendously! 


If they allow these illegals to work as citizens, they are not going to work for peanuts anymore! They will want as much as everyone else makes! There go all those jobs that we need!


Yes, America was made by immigrants but this is too many people! Why can't they allow so many people  from each country?


One last thing, there are many corrupt border control guys on OUR side of the fence receiving money for allowing illegals to cross. That is the truth!




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Illegals
You must live up north somewhere-- they are always climbing over the fences, running across the desert, etc., and you can see where they've been by the trail of dirty diapers, trash, cut water lines, using cattle watering holes for bathing, etc. I live in Arizona, too, and whenever there is any crime here, shootings, child kidnappings, etc., the first place they head is back across the border. Our car insurance rates are ridiculously high because they pick out a model they want to steal and across the border it goes-- especially if you have a 4 X 4, SUV, etc. The Mexican police use them for their patrol vehicles. I also worked for a local hospital and when they get sick, they flood the ERs with no insurance, of course, and the ERs are obligated to treat them. Everybody else has to sit for hours because they can't get in. Then of course, the "bleeding hearts" sign them all up for AHCCCS, which is the state welfare for health care, and they get everything for free-- while we have to pay higher health care costs to cover it. I could go on and on. I am not against people coming here LEGALLY, but the word here is LEGAL. I don't care if they are from India, China, Mexico, or where-- the word here is LEGAL. This country is just like Rome being overrun by all the barbarians, and we all know what happened to Rome. The same thing is going to happen here-- just wait.
illegals
Ok if I must I will go in to detail here for you, Jay. And anyone else who must know. I only know about 3 LEGAL folks that are Mexican immigrants. BUT I have met MANY illegals and I will tell you why. I live in Southern Mississippi. As I am sure you know Hurricane Katrina hit this area dead center. It was indescribable. Well A LOT of illegals saw an opportunity to work and they came to this area. Well my father does disaster cleanup. He had a lot of equipment and crews who did cleanup for the state. Well he did even though it is wrong hire many illegals to work for him. I know other people too who did the cleanup who also had a whole bunch of them living on their property also and I mean a lot of them. I have met many, many illegals during that time. Not just ones who worked for my dad but others. My dad has now realized he made a mistake letting them work which is a whole other subject. He knows it is better to leave them alone let them find work elsewhere. But he learned the hard way you can't help them. I have also. But that is how I have come to say it is from exp. Experience with many of them. They seem so humble and pitiful at first. But they aren't what they seem. Most anyway. They begin to expect more and more money. They will steal you blind. The many I have met yes. Dad lost every piece of tools that weren't too large for them to fit in a vehicle. He has a 500 sq. ft. metal building that was stock full of every kind of tool and equipment you can think of he had gotten over the years. EVERY tool down to his screwdrivers were stolen little by little and no one but these illegals working had access to these tools and other things. He is having to start all over buying these things. Do you see now why I feel this way. I have known so many. I am not someone who runs their mouth without knowing what I am talking about. Oh and when I say they don't have good hygiene these people would work all day in the hot sun and you can imagine how bad they would smell and come home and have access to showers and many wouldn't take them. THAT is disgusting. I'm sorry. So yes Mr. Jay I have known quite a few illegals. How many do have YOU know?
Illegals
They don't care who they live down the road from --- they have more rights than the cop does.

I called a local hospital and was told that all illegal immigrants have FREE unlimited medical care, covered under a government program called Trailblazer. The hospital representative told me that they are not allowed to turn anyone away, so the government set up this program to partially compensate the hospital for the care of these illegal freaks. The rest of their care is passed along to private pay patients and insurances companies. The insurance companies then raise their rates to cover their losses, and fewer Americans can afford insurance. God Bless the USA --- at least if you are a foreigner. In my area, it is Arabs. They (even the illegals) free education, free medical care, free social social services, food stamps, free legal services, free housing, etc., etc., etc. Of course, we are all paying for these "free" services with our tax dollars.
I agree on the illegals but .....
they're not the only ones sucking our system dry. I live in a state where 10% of the working class pay for 90% of those freebies on the government payroll.

My mother raised two children on her own. She had a high school education, worked her butt off for everything she had, sometimes working two jobs. She NEVER asked the welfare dept for a dime. If we didn't have the money, we didn't buy it.

But no, I see those beautiful cars sitting in front of the projects. Thought they couldn't have all these expensive things and still get all the freebies. My brother and I didn't get free healthcare, free dental care, free vision care. No one came out to make sure our home was UP TO SNUFF.

Heck, we got million dollar NEW homes going up in our town, single family homes. Tearing down the OLD single dwelling homes and putting up new homes, all for the taking of those who have some reason they can't do anything for themselves, while my mom watches this all happening, knowing she didn't get the freebies and the help. She doesn't say much but BOY AM I PISSED OFF!!!!

My husband and I work for everything we have. Our kids have better than we did, some would call them spoiled I'm sure.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping any in real need, that's why God put us here.

But you know the old saying, give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish he'll eat for a lifetime. Of course, I've seen many who don't want to learn how to fish either, they just want it at their doorstep.
I will state also that the illegals I know ARE..sm

They are paying taxes so they don't get caught....albeit some of their papers in order to pay taxes are fake.  They also work 2-3 jobs per person and are contributing greatly to the economic success of this country and are slowly but surely TRYING to get legal.


And you can take that to the bank!


The illegals also can work at these low wages because
they live 5 or 6 families to a house. Every time you hire illegals (and if a job is bid at half what an American can do it, they ARE illegal) you are contributing to the destruction of America. Have you ever read any reports of what its like to live in a neighborhood with illegals? It rapidly declines into garbage and filth. This is the only way these people know to live. They do not care to assimilate into our society. They would rather we degrade down to their level. Enjoy that money you save. May you also enjoy a few of these families coming to YOUR neighborhood.

Oh, and don't think they just live in low income areas any more. Nah, they are spreading into the McMansion neighborhoods. 7 or 8 families per house can afford to live there, and Bank of American is oh so happy to loan them the money. Ain't American great?
Your reasoning does not make illegals ok, still
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This, in my opinion, ranks right up there with the illegals using....
your Soc Security number to work under. It's an illegal act, no matter which way you look at it. And, when "they" are tested on the phone for an interview, how is that going to fly? This whole reeks of illegality and purely a *wrong* thing to do.
I'm with you on the illegals, but paying taxes is not an insurance policy.
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Puhleez, what exactly is the government doing about illegals crossing the border?

Absolutely nothing.  NOTHING!  The government sanctions sending American jobs oversees, puting thousands of American workers on unemployment!  So why should I or anyone else feel guilty about trying to get what we rightfully deserve?


As far as testing on the phone goes, doxie, you can be listening on an extension and write the answers down for your husband.  Don't feel guilty.  You're going to pay your taxes.


supposed to be, after people lose their jobs, they are forced to take part-time, lower-paying jobs..
with little to no benefits. service jobs. where are you going to work in a few years, when Medical Transcription is replaced by technology? McDonald's, Walmart? you really going to like that?
oh our lovely government does give illegals medicaid, foodstamps, and housing so in term we give tha
i have been through some rough times lately and had to apply for some help. there are signs, big signs, all over our offices saying "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LEGAL TO GET HELP". so we and our government do give them our benefits whether they are legal here or not. now that is messed up. i am helping to support them so they can take away my jobs and i can't even support my kids and yes i get benefits, wow $75 a month in food stamps which lasts not even a week in a household of 6. don't get me wrong, i am thankful for any help at the moment, but i get penalized for trying to work my tail off and still can't survive.

there was recently an article in our local newspaper where one of our local school districts tried to charge $1000 a year for each illegal student enrolled. it was bulked and the illegals got a lawyer to sue for discrimination. the school district merely stated that they had to HIRE extra teachers that could speak the foreign language just to teach these children and were trying to offset some of the expenses. ridicilous!! so again our taxpayers money is paying to educate illegals as well.
Several jobs on Monster & CareerBuilder for inhouse office jobs down there through an
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I did 3 jobs for a while about 3 years ago, you burn out quick, I was doing 3 MT jobs though...after
10 months I cut down to 2 as I don't like to have all my eggs in one basket.  But I am considering going down to 1 in September for my sanity, its a good steady job so financally it should not be an issue.  I have 2 right but have not worked the 1 in about 3 weeks due to some problems at their end, supposed to learn a VA account but not sure if I want to pursue it right now or not, they are waiting to hear from me at this point. I still have a lot going on with chemo, etc. so am mulling things over.  But if you have a full-time day job, then I would just go with 1 part-time MT job at night, unless 1 is during the week, and the other weekends only, then of course you will be working 7 days a week, very tiring I know.  I have been working 7 days a week for 3 years now but I do slack off now and then of course to recharge and get sleep etc. But burnout happens fast and I doubt you want to lose your day job so be careful. Good luck.
Two jobs very common, 3 jobs not unheard of.
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Yup! Not only short jobs, but also jobs from
extremely difficult dictators, bad sound files, jobs that need lots of ADT info added, and anything else that is not "easy" to do. I also questioned them about this and was told the same - they do not allow cherrypicking. Definitely not true!
MQ R jobs
the R stands for Reserved.  My office will call me to tell me they are reserving a job for me, for instance, if a doc calls them asking where a report is that he needs asap (don't they always) or if a doc forgot to make it STAT.  The coordinator can then reserve the job for you, used to be just simply assign in the good ol days
other jobs
I think that if you were unhappy at your job and you weren't making money then it was a wise decision to get another job. I wish you well.
Where are the $20-$30/hr jobs?
Just wondering if they are out there.  So far I make $10/hour or LESS and it's not going to pay bills. thanks.
no. of jobs
take some 20 files in the begining for working for 8 hours.

that is sufficient.

regards
aroun2000@gmail.com
Jobs
Like you, I've worked over 30 years in the medical field. Seems a shame to waste that knowledge sliding groceries across a scanner but what the hey, why not? At least you are working, getting paid and have some benefits. It "ain't" all that bad, is it? Our so-called "profession" is becoming a joke! I'm still working here and there but got dumped by my own group of doctors after 26 years--I think the bottom line is they didn't want to pay me big bucks any longer--even though I knew the ropes, obviously, knew more than the girls they hired, etc. Bottom line. . . money! They want to keep it all for themselves. I didn't even have sick leave for years until I screamed loud and clear! I did get a huge pension and profit sharing, though, for my grief so I guess it was worth it. I just didn't like being "dumped" so unceremoniously when I came to their rescue years ago because their Transcriptionist quit. Oh well, such is life, I guess.
Other jobs can be the same too...
I agree it is stressful to always be watching the line counts, but other jobs have stress too. I worked as a physical therapist assistant for 7 years before becoming an MT and it was all about numbers and paperwork at most places. Even had to keep a number chart at some places with how many patients seen and how many hours worked doing patient care, etc. The director wanted us to double up on patients, seeing 2 to 3 at a time. I feel lucky now to work for a supervisor who puts quality above quantity. We get paid by the hour, so lines per hour is not in the forefront, but we get bonuses if we go above what is expected. This job is much less stressful for me and easier on my back as I was lifting patients and injured my back in the process doing the physical therapy job. I also love working from home, so that is a wonderful benefit too.
Second jobs
I tried that for awhile myself.  The first job picked up and I had to stop.  The important thing is that you meet turnaround times for both jobs.  I made it clear up front with the second job that it was a second job, and that I could not take on as much work for them, since I was full-time with the other company.  However, whatever work I agreed to do, I was expected to get finished on time.  It got to the point that I was not going to be able to do both and meet deadlines, so I had to give the second job up.  I have worked a second job several times for various lengths of time.  You just have to make sure you can realistically do both. 
I'm going to try two jobs and see what happens...sm

I have always had my eggs in one basket.  I recently picked up a second job and so far I really like it.  When one job had no work, I just started my other job early.  My first job has a set schedule, but my second has a 24 TAT, so this is beneficial to me.  Originally, I was going to quit my first job after a couple weeks, but I'm going to keep both just to be safe.  I have to make a certain amount in order to pay bills and I can't have my account running out of work (which happened three times last week).  I just can't risk it.


Just an idea.  I might actually pick up a very very part time third job too.


2 jobs?
Has anyone ever successfully worked 2 FT jobs?
2 jobs
Been doing this since 1976. Never had two jobs, but my first work-at-home job in the mid-1980s offered endless transcription. I, too, was a single partent. Before I knew it, I was working 12 hours daily (sometimes longer) 6-days-a-week on an IBM Selectric. I would work at times until midnight or beyond.

After my shift, every single day, I would pack up my reports and make about a 12-mild round trip to deliver them to the company which at the time was being run out of a residential home. I shopped cooked, cleaned and gardened in between. I would go months and months at-a-time with my only human contact outside of my home being with cashiers in the store. The only voices I ever heard (except for my son's) were electronic, from dictation and the TV.

Five years passed without a vacation. Can't remember too many holidays when I wasn't typing. It didn't seem to take much time at all before back pain was making it take longer to type the same amount of work, thus stretching my work day from 12 to 16 hours. By the time I was 34, I was diagnosed with DJD at multiple levels in my back. At age 42, I had a physical (and mental) collapse, and for the next 7 years I could not do transcription. I lost my home and my car. My son went back to live with his dad and I had to move in with my elderly mother. When unemployment ran out, I ended up on food stamps and at the door of the Texas Rehabilitation Commission. They told me I wasn't "handicapped enough" to warrant assistance or job skills retraining.

I had to figure out my own physical therapy because of the public health care system was such an abdomination. That was a long and painful process. I learned how to take care of myself again and how to restore balance back into my life.

Ultimately I ended up back behind the computer cranking out medical reports again. I work 5 days, not six, and I type 8 hours over a 10-hour window, allowing for plenty of "stretch" breaks and time out for lunch. When my shift is over, it's OVER


2 jobs
Been doing this since 1976. Never had two jobs, but my first work-at-home job in the mid-1980s offered endless transcription. I, too, was a single parent. Before I knew it, I was working 12 hours daily (sometimes longer) 6-days-a-week on an IBM Selectric. I would work at times until midnight or beyond.

After my shift, every single day, I would pack up my reports and make about a 12-mild round trip to deliver them to the company which, at the time, was being run out of a residential home. I shopped, cooked, cleaned and gardened in between. I would go months and months at-a-time with my only human contact outside of my home being the cashiers in the grocery store. The only voices I ever heard (except for my son's) were electronic, from dictation and the TV.

Five years passed without a vacation. Can't remember too many holidays when I wasn't typing. It didn't seem to take much time at all before back pain was making it take longer to type the same amount of work, thus stretching my work day from 12 to 16 hours. By the time I was 34, I was diagnosed with DJD at multiple levels in my back. At age 42, I had a physical (and mental) collapse, and for the next 7 years I could not do transcription. I lost my home and my car. My son went back to live with his dad and I had to move in with my elderly mother. When unemployment ran out, I ended up on food stamps and at the door of the Texas Rehabilitation Commission. They told me I wasn't "handicapped enough" to warrant assistance or job skills retraining.

I had to figure out my own physical therapy because the public health care system was such an abdomination. That was a long and painful process. I learned how to take care of myself again and how to restore balance back into my life.

Ultimately I ended up back behind the computer cranking out medical reports . I work 5 days, not 6, and I type 8 hours over a 10-hour window, allowing for plenty of "stretch" breaks and time out for lunch. When my shift is over, it's OVER. I have a life now.

I can tell you this much. When I look back on those years, my regrets are not because of what happened to my house, my car or even my body. I was able to get all those things back eventually. But I never figured out how to have a second chance to be there for my son more when he needed me. I was usually too exhausted to help him with his school work. Missed a bunch of soccer games. The TV and video games were his babysitter when he was younger. He was a latch-key kid and during his junior high and high school years, he and his friends (usually other latch-key kids of workaholic parents) virtually ended up raising themselves.

I was lucky. He turned out just fine. But I can say without hesitation that the extra money, the good house and the new cars were most definitely not worth the price I paid to get them and I am a whole lot happier (and better off) without them. I indulge myself in simple pleasures that money can't buy and live a full and satisfying life now.

If I had it to do over again.......


2 jobs
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2 jobs sm
I did not lose anything, but for the grace of God, but you told my story work-wise. I had to "retire" because of the back pain and each day that goes by, I think of returning to the same work because that's all I know after all these years of 100 hour work weeks. However, the posts on this board are very discouraging as to who to work for, etc. If I had it to do over, I probably would not have "killed" myself the way I did, but then again, my son would never have gotten his master's degree. Can't win. I am using a laptop and can't do much else for too long without wicked back pain. Paying the price for being an over-achiever but still have high hopes "repairing the damage"  myself once again and doing this again soon. I thank God to still be here but pray the back pain will go away. Tried PT, heat packs, all kinds of gadgets, but the damage is done - overuse to say the least. A rheumatologist had the brass ones to say he sees "nothing wrong" with me. Good God, I wish he could feel the way I do just for one day. I sure am relating to others today. My gift, I guess, there's always someone worse off. Take care of yourself. We all need to share to help others not make the same mistakes we did. Don't overdo it and do it ergonomically correct or the damage will be permanent. Thanks for sharing your story today.
That would be 2 FT jobs....nm
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jobs
Check online on MT Jobs...there are quite a few services on there that are hiring, most of which are asking for only 5+ yrs experience. I've been applying past couple weeks. I have 24 yrs experience, & got the definite impression that they're nearly desperate for us seasoned pros!
JOBS.

I hear people complaining from the big companies that they hate their jobs or that they are low on work and etc.  So, it brings me to this question; I have been working for a small MTSO and was thinking about trying to get on with a big company, but then I read all of the bad posts about them.  What do you think is better?  Dont the Big Nationals offer benefits? 


Thanks tonz for all then INFO!!


 


jobs
Hi,  I apologize in advance if this is posted in the wrong spot.  I live in Grand Rapids, MI, and my husband has been looking for a job since September, to no avail.  If anyone knows of anything open around our area, could you please send me an email?  I would greatly appreciate it.  My husband has 10+ years experience in customer experience.  We aren't even getting any unemployment, so it's been very difficult.  Thanks so much just for reading this, and God bless you.
Some of the new jobs are second and third
jobs obtained by people whose primary job doesn't pay enough to take care of basic needs - thanks to corporate greed and the government's complicity in absolutely ruining the middle class little by little!!
There might be MT jobs but only 1 for every 10...sm

I've been in the field for 25 years and been watching very closely what is happening with outsourcing, VR and EMR. I bought a VR program and became proficient with it to see if it can be done. I went to the hospital in the next town when I heard they had a VR program that in 30 days, had the docs doing their own radiology transcription, without proofing. I went to the EMR conferences to see what the programs can and cannot do. If you think you have 30 years of MT work left until you retire, you will be in for a big surprise...There is a huge push to automate. The only work left will be crappy ESL's that the machine can't understand. Oh, there might be jobs, but 1 job for every 10. Wages will fall, and it will be cutthroat. Only the most shrewdest MT's will survive. Dictaphone is a million dollar company that will only exist if they can convince doctors to keep dictating. Yet they know the cost has to be competitive. Solution: Speech recognition. They put their smartest engineers on task to find a way to make it work. They consulted with MT's to find out how to make it efficient for editing. And guess what? They were successful. As far as India taking the work, in a few years, there will be experienced MT's that can do the work.


Best advice I can give is to at least get a bachelor's. It will get you in the door somewhere doing something you like.  I'm getting mine in a field that is growing and can't be outsourced...nursing. I LOVE working from home  but I don't have my head in the sand.


VA jobs
I did VA overflow for a while and I did NOT like it.  Talk about poor dictators, bad reports, etc.  Also the government does not want to pay much.  Very frustrating to me and gave up after a month or so.  This was a couple of years back but it was way worse than any teaching hopsital that I have done.   Of course I did to a lot of psych posttraumatic reports that were really weird.  But that is just my opinion. 
new jobs

i see where a lot of people are getting out of transcription and thinking about doing something else I was just wondering what else people were getting into knowing that MT will no longer exist in probably 5-8 years and the fact that we are getting older, etc.  Are you staying in the medical field at all or getting out all together?   Would like to know what some of you are doing to make up for the income that we seem have lost over the past 5-6 years and will continue to lose (as it sounds) to make ends meet???


 


I like my 2 jobs, too! nm
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two jobs
This may not help, but just to add to your thoughts - I work 2 jobs, one 12 hour shift and then I go home and do transcription part time for now. I am trying to find a full time transcription job so that I can quit my 12 hour/day job. Luckily, there are many jobs out there for us that have flexible schedules, and that is my hopes. My advise to you is the same: Look for flexible scheduling.
two jobs

It is hard doing it that way, I've done it before, although my full time job was out of the house, so I had the break for the drive.


I now work full time at home and also part time.  My part time position is a couple hours a day, but has a 24-hour TAT, which helps tremendously.  I have a couple of choices of when I can do the work, which really helps.  


Having a set schedule has its advantages though. When you are done, you are done, and can make plans for the times you don't work.  If you have to do it the way you explained, I would at least give yourself an hour break in between.    


 


2 jobs
I have a 35 hour a week job at a hospital coding and then 20-30 hours a week at home as MT. I need the outside contact with people. I like both jobs but wouldn't want to MT or code for that many hours.

My hospital job gets me out of the house and provide affordable insurance. My at home MT job is a lifesaver as far as extra money.
I think if you have to have 2 jobs
do MTon production for less hours and something else besides typing for an hourly wage.  I think it would be very difficult to have 2 full time MT jobs. 
Yes I have one of those jobs....
I work at home but do so for the local hospital here.
Well, I think MOST VR jobs pay cpl...
but I used to get paid $15/hr to do VR. I absolutely hated it and it wasn't worth the hassle of having to retype everything. I guess it depends on what software they use and how good it is. I went back to doing QA, make more money and am much happier.

By the way, I have worked at another company doing VR for 6 cpl and didn't make squat because the software was horrific too. However, if you can find one of the few companies that pays well AND has good software, you can make good money at VR, but good luck with that!
US jobs
Its been happening and we can't do anything about it. Companies wants more money; and in order for them to do that, they go overseas. Sometimes it makes me wonder what, we, the middle class will be doing in 10 years. Just to save a few more bucks.
Are there really any jobs that don't have 85% OR BETTER ESL?

Really hard to make a living this way.


Where are all of the QA jobs?

I am an MT with dial up only.  I have been an MT forever.  Are there any QA jobs out there?  There just aren't any ads for any recently.


Thanks


 


jobs
I work at as a dental assistant and office manager at a dental office, ambulance EMT, and do paramed physicals part time, plus church treasurer.
I have 2 jobs.

What do you do when 2 jobs run into each other.


 

I work for a place that says we must work OT today.  It is an in-house position that is backed up big time.  We have been backed up for the last several months and they picked a very nice holiday weekend to tell us mandatory OT Saturday 8 hours.  We don’t get an incentive just the more you type the more you make.    I have been working for a small online transcription company since Christmas because I wanted to be at home.  I need to put in 20 hours for this little national but it is not possible to do if I have mandatory OT at another place.   I told my OM at the hospital that she needs to figure out what she needs to do with me whether she is going to let me work from home or not.  I told her that if she has me drive in house again that I was going to have to leave because I liked to have lost my shirt the last time I did it.  To clarify, the hospital set me up at home temporary back in January because the roads were icy but they are trying to pull me back in house.   The computer does not run well at home.   They have several people also working from home who have computer problems and I don’t remember how they worded the problem but it is something about the distance and the large volume coming through that messes things up.  I live even further from the MTSO and all their programs run real smooth.  The small national treats me better.  They do have incentives for their FT MTs  and they do offer OT quite often.  The pay is not as high though and the benefits are more costly but they way they treat their MTs compared to the way this hospital treats their MTs is like night and day. 
Pay for New Jobs
I have noticed a growing trend on the job seeker's board for lower line rates.  I read the new ad.  They want this, they want that, oh, and we must be experienced, and, by the way, we are starting you at 7 cents a line.  For an experienced medical transcriptionist, that rate is an insult.  I just see another recent dip in the offered starting line rate, and I have to wonder if it is me.  If I have this and that, and am all that, and with my 20+ years of experience, I expect no less than 9 cents a line to start.  Just wondered if I am alone in my thinking!!  Thanks for listening to me vent.
Three jobs, sm
I worked three jobs for almost two years. I literally got only 3 to 4 hours sleep most nights during the week. Then on the weekend, I would sleep for 10 to 12 to even once 14 hours at a stretch.

You can do it. Just don't plan on having any kind of life outside of work. I needed the $$$ at the time and I made it. :)